#Enough to suckle at transphobia newspaper teat for the opportunity to sell them out to nazis

[hypermascbishounen]

Ime a lot of it is just that people either don't know lower surgery for trans men exists, or, even more likely: they've exclusively heard old terf propaganda scaremongering, that those surgery are bad and "nonfunctional" and thus no one would ever want them.

These myths circulate even within transmasc spaces ime, which also creates an environment where no one who has had or wants these surgeries, feels comfortable talking about it. Bc every other conversation is going to be slowly and patiently debunking someone immediately effectively saying "WOW I WOULDN'T GET THAT AWFUL MUTILATING SURGERY BECAUSE I LOVE MY BODY THE WAY IT IS GOOD FOR YOU THOUGH" who often get defensive when told they are misinformed, and being rude.

Like you'll do it a few times, but then realize it's going to be an uphill battle every time, and that some people genuinely don't even want to listen. So you either stop bringing it up, or leave. Either way, it's pretty alienating.

(No excuse for why it overlaps so heavily, with willful ignorance about pre-op trans men topping cis men tho, lol. That's just "how do lesbians have sex/women can't top men" levels of bad faith. Like, use your imagination sweetheart, or shut up.)

I find it interesting how people don't seem to know about or expect trans men to get bottom surgery or other masculinizing surgery and treat top surgery as *the* surgery. Like, I saw my anthropology mentor today and I hadn't seen her since before I had surgery, and she said something along the lines of like "it must be such a relief to get *the* big surgery over with", as if top surgery would be the only major surgery I could feasibly get over the course of my transition. And you see this a lot with people equating trans men with having a vulva, using terms like "boypussy" (a personal ick) when referring to sexual experiences involving trans men, as if trans men couldn't possibly have other genitalia. And of course facial masculinization surgery is also a thing many trans men opt for, but it is never talked about as even a potential resource for trans men, despite it being a valid option.

Personally, I think top surgery is it for me. I would love to be able to get bottom surgery, but unfortunately I have genitourinary disorders and I don't think it's a good idea to mess with anything down there. But if I didn't have those disorders, bottom surgery would not be off the table. And getting a hysterectomy or something similar certainly is *not* off the table, I would like to get some sort of sterilization procedure at some point.

I don't know if this is part of people thinking trans men somehow have an easier time "passing" than other trans people without significant intervention (we don't) or people being uncomfortable with the idea of trans men "ruining" our femalehood, or maybe it's a combination of both ideas and others, but it's just such a frustrating phenomena.