#EDIT: sorry lmao again- also its SO WILD! that there was that 2010 version that David K of the terror fame worked on ??? man what a world

[mifhortunach]

lol sorry, not to continue IT posting BUT:

1- INSANE that mike & bill fucked raw onscreen while richie was in the background sobbing his eyes out over eddies gross corpse, but theyre bro-fived & said 'this is the furthest extent of the platonic bond between men: we're not gay' - very strange choice

2- theres this fcukn Old Bullshit b3ach/death post calling richie horror's first 'final gay', which is - imo - straight up untrue, and we can argue about how things might be seen as more or less empowering thru how they moved certain actions to him so he kills his original homophobic bully in the film, etc etc - BUT, what hits me over & over, and its 1/2 a time thing & honestly similar to the g-o shit from ages ago, but the man is barely even Fucking gay ygm?? ygwifm???? I'm not saying its not in the film or anything, im not saying its the worst fukn rep in the world, but knowing that the best they could be Bothered to do was have a guy get slurs shouted at him, and try to attempt to articulate a (dead!) love thru a bridge-carving (verbal confo is for losers!) is so fuckin depressing to me, i genuinely dont have the words

[incarnateirony]

Hey dude! Do you have any recommendations for LGBTQ+ movies in the romance genre that have like a happy ending. I really don't care how old they are. I'm feeling the Gay™ hence I need the Gay™. You feel me?

HIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII NONNIE

First sorry for taking so long, not only did I have to timeline this :) but :) my computer :) froze :) after writing like :) 2 pages :) and I had to do it again :)

So anyway let it be said, the LGBT dialogue is one of osmosis and shared growth and awareness. Some of these films will be very poorly dated, but as you (thankfully) mentioned that them being old wasn’t a *problem*, expect a lot of old stuff. Because one of the most important things to have under your belt when talking about the LGBT media representation battle is the actual journey from A to B – be that incrementalization, subtextual inclusion, text-breeching features, outright evocative and groundbreaking films at the time (which is what MOST of this list will be) and an improvement in our dialogue; let us never forget that while tr*nss*xual is considered a slur and transgender is proper, tr*nss*xual was at one point the politically correct way to speak it – things like that breach in our growing understanding of the spectrum of human sexuality. 

I *WILL* disclaimer these aren’t all romance, so if you explicitly want romance, google them and take a look if it sounds to appeal, but I’m taking this as a general cinema history plug considering what a confused mess fandom conversation about LGBT history in film or modern text as applicable, accepted or not.

Wonder Bar (1936) (I wouldn’t really call this queer cinema, but if you have the time to watch it too, I think it was the first explicit mention of homosexual engagement even if it was fleetingly brief. You might even call it Last Call style. A blink and you’ll miss it plug that was still decades ahead of its time)

Sylvia Scarlet (1936) (Again, I wouldn’t call this queer cinema, but a lot of the community takes it as the first potential trans representation on TV due to the lead literally swapping gender presentation, even if the presentation is… not what we would modernly call representation IMO)

Un Chant d'Amour (1950) (Worth it for the sheer fact that it pissed off fundies so bad they took it all the way to the US supreme court to get it declared obscene.)

The Children’s Hour (1961) (also known as the 1961 lesson to “don’t be a gossipy, outting bitch”)

Victim (1961) (The first english film to use the word “homosexual” and to focus explicitly on gay sexuality. People might look on it disdainfully from modern lenses, but it really helped progress british understanding of homosexuality)

Scorpio Rising (1964) (Lmao this one deadass got taken to court when it pissed people off and California had to rule that it didn’t count as obscene bc it had social value, worth it for the history if nothing else)

Theorem (1968) (Because who doesn’t wanna watch a 60s flick about a bisexual angel, modern issues and associations be damned)

The Killing of Sister George (1968) (by the makers of What Ever Happened To Baby Jane)

Midnight Cowboy (1969) (…have I had sassy contagonists in RP make a Dean joke off of this more than once, maybe)

Fellini-Satyricon (1969) (AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA THIS)

The Boys in the Band (1970) (This… this… this made a lot of fuss. Just remember leather)

Pink Narcissus (1971) (a labor of love shot on someone’s personal camera)

Death in Venice (1971) (This is basically a T&S prequel but whatever, based on a much older book)

Cabaret (1972) 

Pink Flamingos (1972) (SHIT’S WILD)

The Bitter Tears of Petra von Kant (1972) (The title doesn’t lie, be warned)

The Rocky Horror Picture Show (1975) [god I hope you’ve at least seen this]

Fox and His Friends (1975) (some really hard lessons that are still viable today, that just because someone acknowledges your sexuality doesn’t mean they give a shit about you as a person, and that some will even abuse the knowledge for gain)

The Terence Davies Trilogy (1983) (REALLY interesting history look it up, it’s sort of one of those “drawn from own experience” story short sets)

The Times of Harvey Milk (1984) (Documentary)

Desert Hearts (1985) (Pretty much the first film to put lesbianism into a good light as a true focus based on a novel from the sixties)

Parting Glances (1986) (the only film its creator got out before his death from the aids epidemic)

Law of Desire (1987) (two men and a trans woman in a love triangle, kinda ahead of its time)

Maurice (1987) (This one’s really interesting, cuz it was based on a book made about 15 years before it, but the book itself had been written half a century earlier and wasn’t published until after the guy died, he just thought it’d never get published Cuz Gay, so basically it’s based on a story written in like, the 20s finally getting screen time. It has a bittersweet but positive-leaning-ish ending without disregarding the cost that can come with it and even addresses class issues at the same time 100% DO RECOMMEND)

Tongues Untied (1989) (a documentary to give voices to LGBT black men) 

Longtime Companion (1990) (This one’s title alone is history, based on a NYT phrasing for how they talked about people’s partners dying, eg longtime companion, during the AIDS epidemic)

Paris Is Burning (1990) (Drag culture and related sexual and gender identity exploration as it intersected with class issues and other privileges explored in a documentary)

The Crying Game (1992)( I should correct this that I guess it’s more, 1992 considered, “SURPRISE, DIL HAS A DILL!” – I guess I really didn’t do that summary justice by modern language and dialogue as much as how people in the 90s were talking about that and that’s a my bad. LIKE. SEE, EVEN I CAN FUCK UP MY LANGUAGE I’M SORRY CAN I BLAME THE STRAIGHTS T_T) #90skidproblems – I guess I should call it a trans film. And this alone tells me I should go watch it again to recode it in my brain modernly rather than like circa de la 2000 understanding.

The Bird Cage (1996) (So you mix drag culture, otherwise heterosexually connected lovebirds, and then realize the girl comes from an alt-rightish house and the guy comes from a Two Dads Home and does cabaret, how to deal with the issues OF this conflict when it’s between you and your happiness, even if the fight isn’t even your own as much as it is that of the person you love. The answer is PROBABLY NOT to dress in drag and pretend to be straight, but what are you going to do? – while played for laughs we’d consider modernly crude, the fact that they even dared to approach this narrative was pretty loud)

The Celluloid Closet (1996) (Ever heard of the Vito Russo test for LGBT representation? This is based on a book by Vito Russo.)

Happy Together (1997) (Ain’t this shit an ironic name; a mutual narrative, via chinese flick, of hong kong ceding to china and an irrevocably tangled MLM pairing as a giant mirrored metaphor)

Boys Don’t Cry (1999) (one of the most groundbreaking films about trans identity at the time)

Stranger Inside (2001) (As easy as it is to recoil to the idea of “black gays in jail”, the film makers actually went and consulted prisoners and put a great deal of focus into intersectional african american issues that really weren’t around even in straight films at the time)

Transamerica (2005) (While it made a bit of a fuss for not casting an actual trans actor, it was one of the first times a big budget studio really tried to tackle it which really pushed us forward)

Call Me by Your Name (2017) (since I’ve apparently leaned really heavy old cinema throw in a modern one lmaooooo)

Also honorable The Kids Are All Right (2010) mention for the sake of the fucking title alone. 

And to any incarnation of “On the Road” by Kerouac, which

Was originally a book

Released a sanitized de-gayed edition because of the times

Later released the full homo manuscript

had a few film adaptations

Was one of Kripke’s founding inspirations for Supernatural once he left behind “Some reporter guy chases stories” and took the formula of Sal and Dean (and tbh later, Carlo) in a beat generation vibe gone modern as we know it today.

Reading both versions of this can actually help some folks currently understand that when you get confused over some shit (WHY IS CARLO SO UPSET? WHY IS HE ACTING LIKE AN UPSET GIRLFRIEND??? WHY IS HE SO JEALOUS AND SAD WHEN DEAN IS AROUND GIRLS???? WE JUST DONT KNOWWWWWWWWWWWWW) it’s because some big money asshat bleached the content, and sometimes, it takes a while for the full script to come out and again, surprise, it’s been GAY, they just didn’t want to OFFEND anybody. *jazz hands*

Now if you wanna go WAY WAY BACK, during 191X years, a bunch of gender role flicks came out like Charley’s Aunt, Mabel’s Blunder and the Florida Enchantment.

Also where is @thecoffeebrain-blog to yell about the necessity of watching Oz, for the next few hours? But no, seriously, just look into the entire LGBT *HISTORY* of Oz.

Beyond that though I’m gonna stop here cuz hi that’s a lot. I really don’t know how much counts as “happy ending” but if I had to give an LGBT cinema rec list, that’s it as a sum. I don’t really have like, a big portfolio of UWU HAPPY ENDING GAYS because 1. there aren’t a lot of those but 2. to me, it’s not about the ending, it’s about the journey. Be that in flick or through culture and history itself.

If you want more happy ending stuff, you definitely have to look at 2010+, but it’s not like we’re in a rich and fertile landscape yet so honestly just googling that would probably serve you better since I don’t explicitly explore romance genre or happy endings to really have a collection. LGBT life is hard and film often reflects that if we’re making genuine statements about it and really representing it, and we’re just now getting to a point of reliably having the chance at a happy ending. That or maybe someone can add like “Explicit happy endings” lists after this that has more experience in that subgenre.

Also, I can’t emphasize ENOUGH to remember what was progressive then is not what is progressive now, and frankly, what some people think is progressive now they’ll probably look back on what they said and feel really fuckin’ embarrassed. See: “It’s not text because by alt right homophobic dialogue, M/M sex isn’t gay if you do the secret handshake” MGTOW kinda crazy ass dialogue or parallel narratives they inspire that encourage self-closeting and denial based on the pure idea that being gay makes you somehow lesser, so It’s Not That. Like. I am. 99% sure. At least half of the people talking in this fandom. Are going to regret that the internet is forever. And maybe hope hosting servers end in the inevitable nuclear war that will annihilate this planet.

Also, edit: Speaking of mistaken dialogues and words aging poorly, I’d like to apologize from the poor description I rendered “The Crying Game” with, but that really goes to show how deep-seated the issue is we can so casually fuck up identifying a trans narrative as SURPRISE DICK IS GAY when we were all absorbing the content like 20+ years ago and HOW HARD it can be to de-code yourself from that kind of programming because here I am, writing a giant assed rep post and fucking it up because my brain hadn’t soaked that movie since Y2K. Guess what, time for me to go watch the Crying Game again.

[daddybugattibieber]

thread of justin bieber songs

Down to earth

-a bop

-showed emotional depth

-I dead ass cried when he cried in never say never 

-daddy issues

-that annoying mafia in the beginning

-woke king!

One less lonely girl

-showed these crusty boys how to take care of girl

-king of representation, used a black girl as the main girl

-went on to be a future racist song so definite mix feelings thought I should add it thought

-the bridge of this song was like no other

One time

-catchy and cute, made me have butterflies idk

-ryan has always been the only unproblematic white around him, ryan was a great influence

-the bridge was also amazing on this song

Baby

-i sung this in shower and I still know the rap

-i thought ludacris was so cool lol

-my bby drake

-jasmine villegas should have been his gf

Stuck in the moment

-my fuckin jam boi

-quality content 

-the literary comparisons really made me feel that song

-hella salty he never performed this anywhere

U smile

-this was hyped but the verses were iconic 

-definite temptations / mo-town vibes

-modern day my girl

-when he brought boyz 2 men on stage!!!!

Overboard

-best version is with jessica jarrel, the og version

-duets were never heard of in 2010 and he brought it back

-amazing and sensational

-sung this in the car when it rained

-wanted a music video so damn bad

Never let you go

-the video of the Paige, Za and Lil Twist lmfao

-justin bieber was woke for putting a black girl in his music video

-I used to think he was so hot when the wind was blowing on him when he was dancing on the rock

-he came thru and delivered us

Eenie meanie

-I’m a white boy from Canada

-never liked confederate beadles, like ever, that was for the white fans

-Sean Kingston was so popular during this time period

-I thought I was so cool cos I said hoe instead of bad chick

-reggae king! diversity

That should be me

-this never should have been country

-jackson five all the way

-song amazing start to finish

Never say never

-iconic

-history made

-jaden’s rap was too fire for a 12 a year old

-grammys performance was amazing and live

-song is muthafuckin bop

-king of positivity 

 Born to be somebody

-played at the credits of never say never

-literally a prophecy

Next to you

-is basically justin’s song

-was pissed he kissed that girl

-i wanted to have his children because of his verse

Christmas eve

-I don’t care what y’all say but this should have been the single

-this was the first time I wanted to fuck and succ him dry

-vocals, vibrator, falsetto, yes, he was talking about sex

-freak and kinky, definite roleplay

As long as you love me

-really came through for a bitch

-trademark slurring of words

-la la la la la la la la la

Boyfriend

-literally get wet at the falsetto

-the bridge makes the song and its a sample if you didn’t know

-the last chorus was so good

-na na na na na na na na na yeah man

-king of falsetto!

Die in your arms

-that should be me 2.0 

-jackson five vibe 

-solid proof he is really that bitch

Fall/ Thought of you

-good feel good songs

-justin was so far up [redacted]’s ass in love

-highkey bitter

-no offense but basically the same song

-catching feelings completes the trilogy

Beauty and the beat

-i hate this song [redacted] is mentioned in this song

-when nicki minaj grinded on justin !!!! body rock

-remember at the bet awards they had that skit “can you handle curves justin” “yes ....... i.......... can”

-wild 

Nothing like us

-love the song 

-rnbieber birthed

-but just break up already fool

I would

-song was basically rnb, needed a better bass 

-bridge should have been longer and it should have been like six i knows rather than just two

-so much potential

Love me like you do

-he spoke french when he ma cherie

-i wanted to fuck so bad

-i thought his dick was so big 

-i would have had sex to this song

Maria

-billie jean 

-a bop 

-lmao i really do think he fucked mariah yeater 

-and that one kid that looks like him at the ice cream shop explain that

-king of shade!

Heartbreaker

-the whole goddamn song a masterpiece

-bizzle era was born

-lived for this era

All that matters

-say my name/ aaliyah vibes

-great song

Hold tight

-justin might have a small pepe but he a freak

Recovery 

-a bop

-my baby didnt have to apologize to anyone 

-lyrics, song 10/10

PYD

-the beat never dropped

-but after this i wanted justin to nut in my pussy so i could drag it across the floor like a snail

Roller coaster

-this song was a smash

-michael jackson all the way

Change me

-THIS SONG WAS EVERYTHING

-adele who? exactly

-ballad bizzle wins everytime 

-he is literally an icon, no one was bringing back rnb like this

-bizzle delievered

Confident

-chanceeeeeeelor

-the dance was sexy

-the let me taki to you makes me cringe but i want to hump his leg more

-the pussy stache

-hoe justin!

Alone

-10x better than bad day and all bad

Flatline 

-sensational

-a bop

-this literally is the best way to go out the album because you fucking die afterwards

foreign remix

-iconic but he basically said he loved black girls

Playtime 

-makes me feel warm

-sexy bizzle

-creative bizzle for editing the music video

-khalil and za were the best friends ever

Lolly

-created netflix and chill

-i would suck dick any time

Time for bed

-STILL WAITING FOR THE COMPLETE SONG 

-makes my pussy tingle 

-justin proved he has a great stroke game

The intro

-sexy

-i thought he says black girls

-mulit-faceted

OTIS FREESTYLE

-proved everyone he was a rapper

-better than lil twist

-talented revolutionary

Hey girl/ Oh girl

-basically the same song but so good

I’ll be there

-nioce

Future

-love this shit, this bops

Maria im drunk

-love his verse

Bankroll

-u bitter while im counting money

-i love his voice

Why you mad

-his verse is so good

Deja vu

-wish he would get innapropriate in his songs

-im ready to get my panties soaked

I’m the one

-the switch up at the end where he says gyal

-wish he rapped on this

Mark my words

-bizzle rnbieber ballad

Company

-boppy rnb

-he so alone 

No sense/ No pressure

-love when he collabs with black people

-i wish justin had black in him

WAUN

-only piano version is stannable

Life is worth living again

-as much shit I give Justin, i really do love him and this right here made me cry and i never thought i be on that fuck shit but justin is literally someone who inspires me and i look up to him alot, he has affected me in ways he will never know so this song really took me there, cos i dont know what I would do with out his bitch ass.

Sorry

-wish there is a reggae version 

-black girls should have been dancing in the music video

We are/ Trust

-great rnb songs

-underrated 

Home to mama

-wish there was more to the song

-same as love yourself

-the mj inspired hiccup is the only thing good about the song

-cody simpon is a hell no

Juke Jam

- he really hate himself for only singing the chorus 

-like i really wish he would actually immerse his ass in a song

all his recent stuff

-bizzle would never do us like that and give us friends, cold water, or let me love you, he really wouldn’t so there’s that