#Dylan brock

[codicies]

This is such a silly little detail to focus on, especially since Dylan's hair exists in a quantum state of being every length at once depending on the artist, but

Dylan's hair changed between Venom War and All-New Venom. Once he's no longer homeless and has access to a shower, it's fluffier.

Plus he likely went to a good stylist for that haircut, what with the face framing and layers.

I think both styles look great but the change between them really signals the change in Dylan's circumstances.

[sabeedraws]

idk how to draw venom and I didn't wanna learn rn, ok. I just wanted to doodle him running around with the baby

[mooned-knights]

[kaijuparfait]

more of the post-movie AU babies <3

Dylan is a cover name, their actual names are just Codex and Sleeper (Eddie is not good with naming children)

Sleeper is a proper spawn of Venom made of their matter that was left behind in the end of TLD, but since Venom's consciousness is elsewhere (probably mcu) it became it's own being

Codex is their physical Codex taken human form, Eddie quite literally ripped it out of his neck and it just. became a child)

instead of a cat motif for both, they're birds (Sleeper is just "bird." in general but Codex is specifically a Phoenix because of the whole "back from the dead thing" about how Venom/Eddie's Codex was made in the first place"

One of the time's Eddie was telling them about Venom, he mentioned their chickens, Sonny and Cher, and now Sleeper just adores birds- they take the form of a cute round chicken when they're at home

Sleeper is still mentally a Symbiote like the comics kinda???? they just mimic Codex a lot

Sleeper can bond to a Host (mostly Eddie before he got the Anti-Venom), change their form to almost anything, but struggles with the finer details and colors

Codex's "base form" is a small human child and that grows overtime like a normal kid, although he can change himself to be older a younger, that does take a lot of effort and has limits, he will have the intelligence of whatever age he forms as, but will only retain memories when back in base form (he's just a little guy :3)

Codex can also take the form of a Hostless Symbiote, but that's kinda it for non-human forms, but it's also technically a "base form"? he just prefers the human one more

little tiny babies, they like to ride around in Eddie's pockets when they're little like that, can fit in his hands

upon getting the Anti-Venom, Eddie tried to show them what Venom looks like and accidentally burned them a tiny bit in the process- nothing long lasting, he just makes sure not to be near them when he uses it

yes Eddie is weird about the Anti-Venom, he makes it look like Venom and he is hallucinating their voice, only he can hear it, everyone can see it tho- even he thinks its weird sometimes but its the closest he has to the real thing so...

[moonesaiky]

Eddie (movie) and Venom being in love and cuddling with Sleeper and Dylan :)

I confess, this was a lot of fun to do, even though I love the dynamics of the comics, I have fun writing the dynamics of the Sony Movie.

You can tell that Eddie was inspired by Venom 3's appearance, right?

[cletus-kasadys-gay-boy]

I love my gay dads

Separation Anxiety was the first Venom comic I read. I felt like there was so much fruit in it.

[oroontheheels]

[novva555]

[princessbutler1316]

My new Roman Empire is

Wade is a proud Girl's dad

I mean look at him, a very proud father of his baby girls❤️

And

The Fact Venom and Eddie are boy's parents

Trying to be good parents, but doing overall a good job (but the Universe put a target on their backs)

Btw, Sleeper is my fav symbiot

I mean look at him!

[pixelsandpins]

On Eddie's and Venom's Children/Offspring

As a local Venom Expert (TM), let me explain this very important bit of Venom lore.

Venom's species, the Klyntar, reproduce asexually. They spawn "once a generation", feel a threat to the hive, or otherwise feel as though they need to increase their numbers due to an upcoming catastrophe (the comics have wiggled this reasoning a little through the years).

Venom has produced seven spawn: Carnage, Scream, Agony, Lasher, Phage, Riot, and Sleeper.

They also have a son together with Anne named Dylan.

Carnage spawned while Eddie was locked up in prison with Cletus Kassady. The spawn occurred during their jailbreak, and Eddie had no idea it was even happening. The other doesn't tell him. Everyone is a bit surprised. All this is revealed in The Amazing Spider-Man #360-362 (1992)

*****

The Life Foundation Symbiotes (Scream, Agony, Lasher, Riot, and Phage) were artificially gestated by the Life Foundation. They captured Eddie and Venom and pulled "seeds" from Venom's body, then grew the spawn in another part of the facility. This is Lethal Protector #4 (1993).

*****

Sleeper is, first of all, the fucking GOAT. Let's get that out of the way. Sleeper is spawned "naturally" however this occurs well after Eddie and Venom have properly bonded and gone through the trauma of having seeds stolen. Eddie, then, senses the birth approaching and feels child-birth related pain. They actually separate during the birth because they're concerned about Eddie's organs shutting down. The symbiote, unfortunately, delivers what they believe to be a stillbirth (this is written SUPER weird in the comics themselves, tbh). The conversation around this birth reveals a lot of complex feelings on Venom's part around their "babies." This happens in Venom #164-165 (2016-2018) which are the last two issues of the Costa run.

Sleeper comes into their own during Venom: First Host (Costa, 2018). Venom is kidnapped, and for the rescue mission Sleeper bonds with Eddie. Previous to this, Sleeper had been tended to regularly by Eddie and Venom together while living in an Alchemex facility.

*****

Dylan Brock is a sight bit more complicated. He's introduced during the Cates run, 2018, and proceeds to be a main character and major narrative pivot for both that run and the current Ewing run (featuring the Venom War event).

SPOILERS FOR CURRENT VENOM

Dylan is the human incarnation of the symbiote codex embedded into Anne. She conceived the child while bonded to the Venom symbiote using DNA transferred over from Eddie (via the symbiote). She had Dylan, then left him to be raised by Eddie's dad, which is where Eddie meets him. So Dylan is the combined child of Eddie, Anne, and Venom, designed by the symbiotes to take out Knull. Dylan's story is still developing and changing.

Edited to add in response to a comment:

Ignore if you want to develop your own interpretation of events around the birth of Dylan Brock. CW: conversation around suicide and mental health

Anne commits suicide not long after leaving Dylan with Eddie's dad. The suicide was written back in the 90s, however, well before any of this newer narrative was conceived. When she's first written as ending her life, it's because she can't live with the guilt of the murders she committed while hosting Venom and experiences an extreme fear and paranoia reaction to symbiotes (rightly so).

When Cates added Dylan, this all got WAY more complicated in terms of determining narrative intent. Namely, was the conception and birth of Dylan a contributing factor to her suicide?

When they do the multiverse thing, they meet an Anne who was the permanent host of Venom because Eddie successfully committed his own suicide. She does not go through the same acute traumatic event that Anne Prime did. When she realizes she's pregnant with Venom's baby, she has a very neutral-positive reaction to it. Even after the introduction of Dylan, the story only ever attributes Anne's suicide to guilt over the murders she commits and subsequent mental break.

When she leaves Dylan with Brock Sr., it's clear she deeply cares for him, yet can't take care of him. She says she'll come back for him when she gets her head right, and does not want Eddie ever knowing Dylan exists. She didn't leave Dylan in a safe baby box or a dumpster or just in his crib while she ended her life. Even though she didn't pick the best caregiver, she left Dylan in a place she knew she could come back to. Where she could see him again. Where he wouldn't be lost in the system. This all implies to me a woman who loved her baby. Who, in some part of her, thought she would come back to get him but unfortunately succumbed to her mental health crisis.

This altogether, the story does not want you to see Dylan's conception and birth as a contributing factor to her suicide. He never shoulders that narrative responsibility. The story wants you to "blame," so to speak, the guilt and paranoia.

This is all analysis, however, and that's going to be heavily influenced by personal interpretation, experiences, and familiarity with the canon. This is the reason why I didn't include it in the original informative section of the post. I didn't want to create bias in a new reader, so I was trying to keep things as neutral as possible (except for Sleeper being The Best. That's simply a FACT /j). But I figured including the additional analysis would create some clarification on a very complex narrative event.

Now I hope that covers enough. Feel free to ask questions or get clarification on anything. I'm literally wallowing in information and no one to share it with.

[justyourcasualidiot]

Venom 4 but it’s just venom and eddie reuniting (venom is the cockroach trust me on this), have a very detailed sex scene, sleeper is born, then the last hour and a half is just them trying to figure out how to raise a symbiote child and start a family like they wanted. Post credit scene is dylan being introduced

[codicies]

If I'm right about Dylan being the new King in Black, I think the best move would be for Dylan to regain the King in Black powers over several years. That way, he has a chance to grow into the role & learn to be a good king before bearing the full responsibility. Plus he'll have the opportunity to live a full human life before taking the throne for the rest of eternity. It's very important to me that Dylan gets to grow up naturally 😭 (as much as a kid can in comics, anyway)

I also want him to keep living with MJ. I think they are a good parent/child match. Eddie means well, but he's too unstable to provide a consistent roof over Dylan's head.

More than anything, I'm worried Marvel will use the King in Black thing to shoot Dylan into space and write him out of the story. But Eddie Brock was a grown-ass adult when he took the throne, and he could barely handle it. No way Dylan can handle it at the tender age of [???]teen.

[sabeedraws]

Not sure trying to reason with his BABY has been working out for Eddie… :/

Bonus:

[aamy2100982]

I really don't know what's going on with Spiderman lately xd (spoilers for the latest comics!!)

Last year, the year before last, we saw comics in which Spiderman would gag just by looking at the symbiote, and act like it was the most disgusting thing that exists in the entire universe and now...

Incredible? an absolute feeling of electricity? SEXY??

Spidey you're talking about a married symbiote! With kids!

I do ship them tho... But even I have a filter where I can recognize what's canon and what's just nonsense my head creates because making ships is fun. So I can recognize that whatever's going on here is completely and totally out of character. Spider-Man would NEVER, EVER. From the second he discovered his "suit" was actually a living being, he tried to remove it from moment one. Even risking his own life to do so.

I don't know which writer or writers are in the latest Spiderman comics. But they are totally SpiderSymby lovers. There is no other logical explanation for what is happening here xd

What I find funniest is that they aren't even reciprocating. Symby chose to go back to their husband and son rather than stay with Spidey.

Spidey is like "damn, it was so cool to be reunited with the symbiote, I wonder if he feels the way I feel." and Symby is just happy because their back with their "perfect family".

Because this is also the first time we've seen Spiderman act this way. The last time he teamed up with the symbiote that I can remember was this one. And their interaction was not friendly.

still called them "suit"

and generally found it unpleasant to have to use the symbiote.

I wonder what happened there. Maybe the power of the King in Black makes you gay or something... Yeah, that must be

[dagreninjagurl]

VENOM FINALLY SAID THAT DYLAN IS HIS & EDDIE’S SON‼️‼️‼️

Venom #32 2021

Coming April 3, 2024

[moonesaiky]

I needed to do it, this drawing only makes sense to me, but the baby is Dylan :D original meme post