#Did Chayanne even talk to Phil after all that happened? I know he went with Tallulah back to Rose’s Sacuntary but

[chayannecraft]

Can we talk about the moment today where when Chayanne was upset about Tallulah telling Phil about what happened, when Phil asked “Do you guys not trust me?” Chayanne DIDN’T EVEN SAY ANYTHING HE JUST LEFT (Unless I missed something in that stream, but that’s what I saw happen)

[anartisticdreamer0]

(this will be a complete liveblog of what’s happening on elq’s pov)

HE WENT DOWN THE ELEVATOR AND THERES A WHOLE FACILITY.

he’s walking down a hallway with creepy music playing- it stopped. this is a long hallway. no music tho.

this is a ridiculously long hallway wtf. oh we get music again.

oh a room. is there a door? he disconnected? i heard a discord sound effect- OH HES TALKING.

(roier killed cellbit kekw)

he’s talking about how interesting despite how long he’s spent in purgatory he’s never seen such hypocrisy and sin. and that purgatory has done that on purpose that it has brought out the worst in people.

HES DYING OF THIRST HAHAHAHA HE HAD TO ASK THE ADMINS FOR WATER NO MAMES.

haha to make the drink “cool” he said these are the tears of god. he sounds a lot like the eyeball watcher thing.

we’re back to walking down long creepy hallways- oo stairs.

THE FUCKING EGGS. YOU MONSTER. ALL THE BABIES ARE HERE. he’s seeing if he knows all the babies. he doesn’t really remember their names but he knows who their parents are. HOW DARE YOU SAY THAT TO POMME. he said no one loves pomme.

HES SAYING THE EGGS WERE ABANDONED THATS NOT TRUE YOU PRICK. pomme you amazing girl. she has complete faith in her parents, in etoiles, that they love her. ELQ YOU BITCH. the eggs still have signs btw. “stop talking about my dad” love you ramon. TALLULAHHHH MY BABY. why does he keep calling the daughters “hijo” bro wtf hija dude hija. lullah responded in spanish how interesting. she knows elq isn’t q WHAT THE FUCK HE JUST SAID SHES GONNA DIE.

there were mob sound effects of something dying. and weirdly enough those sounds lined up with a mob phil is attacking on the surface. interesting.

elq said all the parents are hypocrites and they will kill the other eggs to save their own kid. and how all the parents are not good people. chayanne is the only name he remembered immediately how weird.

poor leo. he didn’t even remember anything about her. “leo culero” love ya leo. richas our beloved. he wants to tell richas something and wants his full attention while saying it.

“there’s no big disturbance to the peace than a group of people who want to know something they shouldn’t” i believe that’s what he said. my spanish is not perfect.

he tells the eggs to stop hoping their parents will come get them, but that it’s up to them. that it’s nice to have faith. and that if they want to give a last message to their parents he might pass it on.

“BRASIL C-“ there was more but i wasn’t able to write it. it was richas tho

“mata es culero por mi” - leo

“my das will always better than you” - chayanne

“Give him hell Dad Fit.” - ramon

“Papa phil forgive me for not a bittersweet goodbye. Papi Wilbur. I miss you endlessly and I know we will reunite <3 ily” - tallulah

“quinta vez que me secuestran y aun asi esto es tan aburrido y sozo” - dapper

“I trust them. I believe in them. I love them. I miss them. And you. Don’t you dare hurt any of my siblings.” - pomme

he then says he has no further plans for them and that all of their parents are savages and they’re about to have a huge fight. i heard a sign get placed but elq didn’t check it out. at dapper’s he laughed remembering the time he captured him.

(why the hell did fit say they broke the geneva convention??)

elq asks something(?) if there’s anything more and to tell him then. nothing responds.

THE EYE SAYS ONLY THE LEADERS WILL FIGHT. 1v1 pvp. nothing off the table.

after the announcement elq’s stream ends.

[blockgamepirate]

I have thoughts on the current Chayanne and Tallulah angst

(Under cut because it's probably gonna be long)

Disclaimer: I'm just talking from the point of view of the eggs here, I'm not trying to accuse Wilbur, Missa or Phil (and obviously especially not the streamers) or anything, I'm just not focusing on them

So mostly talking about Tallulah here because tbh Chayanne's side of it is just me going "WAHHHH ;;A;;" because fucking hell that shit is rough. Losing one of your native languages as a bilingual kid is already rough, your absent parent coming home and immediately having a mental breakdown and avoiding you and talking about leaving again is a hundred times worse. There's not much else to say here, it's just a terrible situation. The only good thing about it is that Missa does still genuinely care about Chayanne, even if his own feelings of inadequacy and insecurity are getting in the way of demonstrating that in a way that would assure Chayanne.

But anyway, I definitely get how that must also look like from Tallulah's POV. They've both been waiting for their dads to come back and now Chayanne's finally did and it went terribly, even if it ended sooort of okay (although.... not without issues).

And much of that was about Chayanne changing. And Tallulah has absolutely changed, even if like Phil said she is still the same at her core. She's grown, she's learned to fight, something that Wilbur apparently really didn't want for her (sorry I still haven't actually watched the Wilbur VODs aside from the adoption one ahdjjfkg) she's been through a lot.

And a lot like Chayanne, she's spent most of her life in Phil's care now, and that shows.

So it's more than understandable that she would feel that Phil is just dismissing her anxiety. Sure Phil did lose hope of Missa coming back, but he has so much faith in people he cares about and wants to believe in them. He's paranoid about the Federation and the codes and also just normal everyday dangers, but he has a bit of a blindspot when it comes to his friends and just interpersonal drama. He wasn't ready for Missa's insecurities or how they could affect Chayanne. But it happened.

Phil also does not know how Tallulah and Wilbur's reunion will go (if it ever happens). He's so sure that it'll be great, but he doesn't know that, no matter how much he insists. It could go badly! There could be drama! Even if it's not Wilbur rejecting Tallulah, it could be something Tallulah interprets as rejection or disappointment.

And even if Phil is right and it'll all go perfectly, that doesn't help Tallulah right now, because just telling her that it'll be fine isn't addressing the sources of her anxiety. It just sounds like Phil is in denial or babying her. Which... I mean I wouldn't say that's accurate but it's not entirely inaccurate either. I think his instinct is to reassure Tallulah but it's not what she needs. And his instinct is to trust wholeheartedly in Wilbur but that doesn't help Tallulah either.

(Also, she knows for a fact that Wilbur didn't originally want a kid. She knows that it took a while to convince him to accept her into his life. She was there. She saw the hesitation. All of that was reasonable from Wilbur's POV because it really was correct that he wasn't able to take care of Tallulah the way a father should. He knew it from the start and he was right. But yeah, it's gonna be something that has to cause some insecurity issues for Tallulah.)

She needs Phil to actually address the worst possible scenario, I think. Just entertain for a minute the idea that Wilbur really does abandon Tallulah. What would happen then? Phil would keep looking after her, Phil would still love her. Or if Phil wasn't around anymore, the other islanders would. And if Wilbur did do that to her, she would have every right to be pissed off. It wouldn't be because there was anything wrong with her.

It would be an awful situation, but all the people who cared about her would still be there for her. And she could talk to the other kids who were also abandoned by one of their parents; Ramón, Pomme... am I forgetting anyone? idk. And she could talk to Chayanne too. She would not be alone.

It's not the most uplifting thing to think about, which is why I think it didn't even occur to Phil to even entertain that notion, but I think it would be more reassuring actually? At the very least to let her know that Phil is taking her seriously? And THEN he could tell her that it wasn't gonna happen because Wilbur would never. Idk, that's my hunch anyway.

Also, it's possible that part of this is about Tallulah herself feeling some resentment and anger towards Wilbur, and not knowing what to do about those feelings, because they're not what's expected of her. And this is where Phil's words might have made things worse, because Phil tries to appeal to her dedication to her papi, but what if she feels like her dedication isn't what it should be anymore?

Idk. Those are my thoughts. I'm not gonna call it analysis, I'm not putting enough effort into this to qualify as "analysis".

I'm alsl very sleepy so apologies if there are some weird bits in here

[pinkelotjeart]

you brought this upon yourself buddy

SO

Q!SLIME

AHGIEUWGFIWEUBFIWPUEF

im only gonna talk about q!slimes lore here so if you want to know more about the qsmp world as a whole just tell me and it would be my pleasure to explain it to you all you need to know is that: people were on a train, the train leads them to quesadilla island, shit happens there is an evil organization and they are stuck here

oh also they have kids

basically, all the people on the island got got paired up (one english speaker with one spanish speaker) and got an egg 

this is the egg phil got if you were wondering, his name is chayyane

and this is charlies egg, juanaflippa

charlie got paired up with mariana (mariana is fucking amazing btw i could also talk about him for hours)

now about flippa: shes canonically a trans girl,shes allergic to bees, grass, detergent, and fish and probably more stuff that i forgot, has a gun and shes a very sweet kid she deserves the world now slime and mariana weren't the most healthy couple. Charlie calls Slime “bitch wife” and mariana has been caught flirting with other men but they do both very much care for each other and they also VERY much care for flippa

i should also mention that the egg have two lives. If both lives are lost the egg dies forever

now everything is fine and dandy till flippa has her first death her first death was because of neglect

you see, if an eggs parents don't do tasks with their egg (ex of tasks are: reading a book to them, drawing with them, cooking something for the egg, etc) and, because mariana and slime didn't log that much on the server at first, flippa lost a life both slime and mariana were fucking desrtoyed and logged in regulary after that to make sure flippa didn't lose any more lives

also slime made a deal to the devil, yes the actual devil that is canon to the qsmp, in order to get a gun for flippa. the deal was that he had to kill chayanne (phils egg) and flippa would get the gun and slime did it!!

later when phil when to kill charlie, flippa shot him dead :]

happy times pass until

untill flippa loses her secod life So when the eggs go to bed they have very cute custom made bed skins?textures? idk but they are very cute here's an example of flippa in bed

very cute

so while mariana was watching over flippa while she slept, he did something that  is still remembered by the qsmp fans and gives us and the cc war flashbacks everytime its mentioned he misclicked while having and axe in hand he clicked on flippas bead and broke it and both flippa and the bed disappeared people started freking out everyone thought flippa was dead and one of the most insane qsmp events happened the trial

slime accused mariana of intentionally killing flippa and took mariana to court  (slime also maybe talked about killing all the eggs but thats not important rn) the trial is probably my favorite qsmp stream and even if you don't plan on getting into the qsmp i suggest you watch slims pov of it its genuinely so great

to make a long story short, the trialhappens and flippa gets reserected hurrayyyy

all is well everyone is happy things are great until flippa dies a third time mariana and flippa were exploring a dungeon and they got swarmed by mobs and while trying to kill the mobs around them,  he accidentally killed flippa

so flippa dies. she isnt coming back and slime may have gone a bit crazy he was/is consumed by grief he went into exile and lives thousands of blocks away from everyone. he tried to kill everyones elses egg but failed and even tho he stopped wanted to kill them and now lives them as a uncle, he still gets sad when he sees the parents and their kids together hes kinda stuck in limbo, he tries to get better and make progress and heal, but his grief still holds him back a lot

also maybe he turned into a green egg named gegg and maybe there is a monster that is impersonating flippa but my fingers are screaming in pain rn lmao so thats all ill say for now

if you do want to learn about gegg and codeflippa and maybe bolas please just tell me and i will happily come back to info dump some more :]

You know I absolutely lost it at the part where they gave the egg a gun - wnjdjwndjw I love the insanity of that all gosh. This is kinda as much as I was expecting cus I did know some stuff about the eggs- but I am enjoying the combination of angst and absurdity.

I think Bolas is the thing I’ve seen the most about- or atleast I’ve seen allot of cool fanart without context I’m curious 👀

[theredcuyo]

I just need to vent a bit-

So, its been a year and so now, isn't it?

It's curious to me how much Techno affected me even tho I wasnt one of his biggest fans at that time, and yet, I went thru some really, really hard times over this, and in some ways, I still am, up until recently I didn't feel the strength to watch his videos, up until recently even if I watched them I couldn't help but smile in a bittersweet way

Not too long ago I was finally able to laugh, to enjoy them again, to not think about how he's not here anymore while hearing his voice, and instead, have fun with what he left for us, and yeah, that's what everyone is been saying to do, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who struggled with actually doing it, because it IS hard, it's hard to not start to have fun and immediately remember "... He won't be doing this anymore now, huh?" and get sad all over again, even if we know he won't want us to still be crying

I got over it a week or so ago, I finally can watch the great potato war without sobbing for twenty minutes after watching it, and even if the grief won't go yet, I feel like im moving on, never leaving it all behind, but carrying the moments that made it hurt so much in first place, needless to say the happiest ones, in my heart, and overall, I'm full on energy, I've been inspired by him, by his all, like everyone, to do something, to give a meaning to what I do now, to be as strong as him-

And yet... The reason I write this is because of the grief left in me, I can't deny that whenever I go watch the qsmp streams a part of me can't help but wonder "wouldn't this have been so cool if Techno was here?, if he could've been here?"

I can't help but imagine him making fun of the eggs for practically being orphans, just to be forced to take care of one, can't help but imagine him immediately throwing one off of the wall, or maybe training Chayanne, and probably, growing to love Tallulah in a "I've had this child for five minutes, but in a anything happens to her I'll kill everyone in this server" kind of way

How he would tell Greek mythology stories to the eggs, but be the one person extremely against babysitting just to end up doing it a lot because of the insane amount of time he spends playing

Can't help but imagine how he would absolutely attempt presidential assassination against all the candidates and be completely against the federation without a doubt, and how he would've entered that dungeon left for them and absolutely destroyed it

Can't help but imagine Techno doing to forever the same thing he did whenever a baby zombie was near Philza

Can't help but wish the people who didn't get to know him outside of stories actually met him, and him talking to them with his bare knowledge of Spanish, and them reacting to the man himself talking about "blowing up a country" and "farming potatoes for +six months" or how "he once conquered the world" just to have them not believing it until Phil backed up the stories

Can't help but imagine a world where Tallulah didn't have to make an altar for him, and then i get back to reality to realize that... That's not the world where I live in, I live in the world where it's been more than a year since all of this possibilities became impossible and I feel genuinely hurt again, maybe more so over the thought of how much life he had ahead of himself, one that hurts me even more because he's the same age as my older brother

I like to wonder off in my mind sometimes, and imagine just for a bit of escapism, that he'd be giving Wilbur validation in his concerts, or that he would've bullied the life out of Dream when he did his face reveal, and also bullied Skeppy when he met up with bbh, or that he would've been in first line for Tommy's show

Technodad once mentioned on Reddit that Techno had been thinking of writing a story, and that too, would have been awesome to see, as much as all the plans he had and didn't get to do that I and all of his fans keep dreaming over

At the end, I think that the grief left in me, is over how much more time he should've had, over the future that we will never see

I'm sorry for this, I really just needed to vent, I don't want to sound disrespectful or anything really, just some thoughts I had inside of me and needed to get out, I'm sorry if it sounded weird or bad-

[at0micc0la]

A New Hairstylist in the Island

A/N: First of all guys I want to appologize beforehand my space bar is failing and sometimes

Chayanne was the one who gave Tallulah her first haircut, and who would blame her trusting the other kid, he is older AND her uncle and when he said "Trust me, I know what I'm doing" in the same tone he uses when he is going to protect her from mobs she truly believe her.

Phil was taking care of the potato farm when he suddenly came to notice that the house was really quiet, he started doing a small check list of what was out of place. The machine was working, there is no code nor Cucurucho near, Chayanne is helping with the potatos... wait... Chayanne is not even near the potatoes. The fear was palpable, throwing the potatoes to the side and screaming the kids names and running as fast ashe was able to, trying to fly if it's posible, once he was close to the house he saw Chayanne in front of the door, scissors on his hand and a fearful look, the kid ran inside, which made Philza ran faster, after living with 3 menaces to the world (all in different ways) he knew that look wasn't a good sign.

He opened the door slowly, preparing himself for the worst. The sigh of relief that left his mouth, he was expecting a broken arm or the house a mess just because of a playfight but right in front of him was Talullah in the middle of the room, teary eyes looking at him and a shy smile

"Do I look pretty, abuelito?"

Her hair was a complete mess, shorter strands and the hair all frizzy, she was touching with a hand a lonely braid that was longer than the rest of her hair

"The most beautiful girl in the room" he said while knealing down to the girl's level and hugging her, while throwing daggers to Chayanne, the moment the boy looked at his dad he threw the scissors to the ground and ran through the back door

"Let me send a picture to your dad so he can see your new style" Phil took his camera and tried not to laugh at the poor girl "Wait here I'll go outside to talk with your dad" The girl nodded and went to her room, where she started playing her flute

'Mate you will not believe this' read the message and the man added the picture, he couldn't help but laugh at the picture, maybe even a tornado would have left her less catastrophic than it is now, and the phone call made a minute later prove him right

"PHIL WHAT HAPPENED TO MY GIRL" the man voice was clear through the phone, Phil feared the kids where able to heat Wilbur rambling about how her hair was ruined and how much Tallulah loved her long hair

"C'mon man, you and Techno did way worse things than this"

"Yeah, but imagine I cut Techno's hair, I would no longer have a head" Ash's laugh was heard in the background while Wilbur keep on rambling possible scenarios in his hair

"Listen, is just hair it will grow out and I can ask someone here to cut her hair properly" Phil reasoned

"Don't ask Fit" the answer was so quick that the man wasn't able to process it in his brain til a few seconds laters just to laugh at the thought of a bald Tallulah

"Definetly not Fit, wait calm down, she is in her way here" Phil sat on the floor and handed the phone to the little girl, she sat next to him leaning into her grandpa

"Dad, did grandpa tell you?" Her voice was small, almost as if she sensed her father's disliked for her new haircut

"Yes darling, He sent me a picture and you look stunning, my love" the giggles were woth the lie to Wil

"I told uncle Chayanne I wanted my hair like you, dad" being away from eachother has been so hard the two of them "Miss you" tears touched the ground to become part of it

"Don't worry, I have a few night left here, you won't notice when I'm already there with you"

"Gotta go, we start in 3 minutes, love you Tallulah, take care of your grandpa Phil" he hanged before she was able to answer and there they sat, looking at the island.

[mediocre-noodle]

ok SO

afaik we arent completely 100% sure whats up with her but we’re 99% sure that she’s a code monster disguised as an egg

(if you wanna skip the background info scroll down to CODE EXPLANATION)

ok so. we’ve seen the code monsters before (im assuming you have, the black and green things that flew around killing eggs) - they took Bobby’s second life even. afaik we aren’t sure why? all that we really know about them is that they’re firmly anti-federation (the federation controls the island btw. you probably know this but just in case).

during the election dinner, tallulah and chayanne, who phil told to stay in the house, both went to the election dinner and were acting completely wrong (tallulah hardly spoke, chayanne clung to phil the entire time, etc) until eventually they revealed themselves as code monsters in disguise (and killed a presidential candidate). this is the first time something like this had happened and was the first time we learned something like this could happen.

it also wasn’t the mast time (they impersonated trump and someone else i believe).

fast forward, it’s slimecicle’s birthday! he, tallulah, and richarlyson (the brazilian egg) spend the entire time going on a birthday scavenger hunt set up by the federation. however, when he got home, shit went wild.

he went to his basement to end stream, but all of the lights just fuckin. disappeared. he turned around and there was a chest with a book inside saying to “follow the light” with a torch next to it. he followed the torches all the way to his mine, where there was a secret train (“train”, it’s more like an oversized minecart) that led him into a HUUUUGE lush cave directly beneath his house.

at the bottom of the cave was a house, which “Juanaflippa” was in (ill explain the quotes in a sec). the two of them reunited, however, very abruptly, flippa said she “had to go” but she would “be back soon”. she runs off and disappears even after slime calls out for her and he’s left crying at the bottom of the cave.

over a month later (in real time. he didnt stream for 3+ weeks kekw, and then when he did log on there wasnt any lore lmao), slime logs onto the qsmp where goes down to the cave again to see if he was imagining it or if flippa was really there. he gets sidetracked for an hour but eventually he makes it down to the bottom and flippa is in the house again. hooray! the two talk and she gives him a book with some “egg tasks” that they need to do.

the two run around the server (flippa hidden) completing tasks, and im pretty sure every single person online knew flippa was there (subtlety is not practiced in the misclick household). the two are happy and we get another bedtime rap at the end of the stream.

i dont think i need to summarize today’s stream cause you can watch it yourself but basically slime and flippa finally tell everyone that she’s “alive” and they all do tasks together.

CODE EXPLANATION_________________

tl;dr: she isnt speaking properly, she isnt acting how she normally would, she has a newfound hatred for the federation and a love for the codes, and once she turned up slime coincidentally got “infected” by something (that is seemingly code-related).

the main reasons i can think for “flippa” being a code of off the top of my head:

- the way she types. she basically uses 1337, like ‘H3¥ D@d’ and ‘1 L0v3 y00000uuu’. i dont think we’ve seen codes type with signs like this (could be wrong) BUT, it’s kinda weird how flippa never spoke like this and the code’s whole thing is based around numbers

- her behavior and “memory loss”. she hardly remembers anything (people, places, events, etc). this could be chalked up to death being funky like that, but the fact that she forgot she was vegan and most of her other allergies is kinda. also, she doesn’t really use any newer emotes, which is… odd.

- she is ADAMANTLY anti-federation. they had to name cockroaches after their worst enemies for a quest and she put 3 variations of the federation (‘the federation’, ‘cucurucho’, ‘anyone who supports the federation knowing the bad things they do’). she also broke the sign slime put saying that the code monsters were enemies, which, considering they killed eggs, is kinda weird.

- this only applies to today’s stream, but slime has been like. infected. by something? the green slime on his shoulder turned black and there were multiple points throughout the steam where his voice completely glitched (the screen glitched as well the first time). apparently, this is not the only time something like this has happened, and wouldn’t you know it, the other time was code-related. a player named etoiles received a powerful shield from the codes that ended up corrupting his arm (i dont know how/if this resolved, i only learned about this from phil and cellbit the other day lol). interesting

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lmk if there’s any clarification needed, i wrote this in one go very late at night lol

hopefully it makes sense

I decided to just click on slimecicle’s stream and WHY IS MY GIRL FLIPPA BACK????? Someone PLEASE explain the qsmp for me I haven’t been watching since like June

[magicalmanhattanproject]

okay im just gonna autism right back atcha

i don't think bobby's death needed to be reversed either but i think it was better to err on the side of caution because they were still tweaking mob difficulty after phil's nightmare which was like. flagrantly unfair and they absolutely 100% needed to revert that.

dapper's death did deserve to be reversed bc it was due to a glitch which means it's unfair for the players. the admins did test and they did determine that bad could have saved him if the game was working properly.

this also indicates that the admins are invested in fair play. to be clear, i do think they're backing themselves into a corner with like. they obviously want the egg plot over with asap because the more languages you add the more unwieldy it becomes but at the same time like they've enabled diamond and the eggs are stacked and these are some very skilled players to try and take down

the other problem is that there is some fudging of mechanics around what eggs are able to do. the most obvious example is that chayanne and tallulah should not have been able to get out of the basement in the first place. only phil and missa have the permissions for any of the doors or trapdoor involved. like if they were playing 100% by rules as written, chayanne and tallulah would never have been in any danger tonight.

now, i do think that's like, fine. like it also enables things like people who aren't phil taking care of tallulah when her time zone doesn't line up wiht his. and if you fudge the rules to get her out of the safehouse it's only fair that might make her unsafe. but like. between that and eggs teleporting to their parents all the time, the general rule of thumb seems to be that eggs can use admin powers as long as no one is looking at them

(im,, not sure that part is actually relevant, but like. i did say i would autism, so)

so like, ramon. ramon teleported away from the battle and hte binary monster stayed behind to attack where there were more eggs.

ramon encounters maxo. ramon tells maxo he wants to go back and fight. maxo convinces ramon to stay in the safe house. he does so sufficiently that ramon gives his crossbow to maxo so maxo can fight in ramon's place

believing that ramon is going to stay in a safe house and that chayanne tallulah and richarlyson are still in danger, maxo leaves ramon with the crossbow to the favela to see what's going on

at this point, we don't know what happens because it happened off stream, but ramon had time to put his bed down at some point (or to forget to pick it up tbf) and then end up dead outside his house

if the admins show that the binary entity had a way inside the house and ramon was forced to flee because fit left the preexisting hole, that's fine. if the admins don't show that, then it means that they need to roll it back

when ramon went down, bad was still double checking that chayanne and tallulah were in bed, foolish was checking on leonarda, and quackity and maxo were still securing the favela and also probably making sure richarlyson was safe. (notably, richarlyson, like ramon, also teleported away from the adults to a safe house and unlike ramon did not end up murdered about it so the adults also had reason to believe that could work again)

also on a meta level, the admins do all talk behind the scenes, but they don't talk with the players. besides, assumptions like, "does the egg exist when i'm not looking at it?" are not necessarily things that it might occur to them to discuss even when the boundaries about that are breaking down (for example bad sending dapper to do errands for him does complicate things)

and like. it is quackity's server, but he can't actually force anyone to play on it (see: spreen not bothering ot log on for a while bc he didn't want to be ramon's dad, tho he has showed up again recently). this might be a situation where people have time to calm down from the intial emotions and realize "okay this felt bad at the time but it's a good story choice and i can work with it" or it might be a situation wehre they're like "yeah no i don't want to play on this server if this is how you're gonna play with me" or it might all just be a nightmare! who knows!

anyway the admins are pretty clearly flying by the seat of their pants at this point wrt the eggs so just because they planned something doesn't mean it was a good idea or that it played out the way they wanted it to or that i won't personally riot if my boy dies

If they reverse Ramon’s death, as sad as I am that he died…… idk

I think every egg death could have something that could be used to reverse it.

The code monster targeted Ramon because he was alone with full intention on killing him permanently. The fact the players were so close to reviving him makes it a tragedy but not unfair.

They shouldn’t have sent Ramon home. The whole time I was terrified the code monster would target him because he was alone and then it did!! That was intentional! I don’t think there are means to appeal on this

This was an intentional kill