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Forgotten Lives Doctor Lifespans Speculation
A mostly unsuccessful attempt to establish some kind of bounds on the lifespans of the Morbius Doctors based off of the Forgotten Lives charity anthologies.
Update: Added Forgotten Lives 3
The First Morbius Doctor
The First Morbius Doctor lives through ‘less than a year’ in an aberrant timeline and 24 years between ‘The Knocking in the Mineshaft’ and ‘The Hand of Light and Shadow’ (As Daveth meets the Doctor in 1780 and dies in the latter story with his death date being given as 1804). The latter story is also this Doctor’s rejuvenation story and thus the ending bound on his age, though the beginning is unclear.
Stated: >24 years
Calculated: >25 years
The Second Morbius Doctor
Very little is actually said about the lifespan of the Second Morbius Doctor, we know he established a base on Earth in and around the outbreak of World War II (1936 at the earliest) and was still there as of 1944. His rejuvenation occurs later in his life, during free travels with Joan Weston, plus we know he travels in the TARDIS whilst based on Earth, so the actual time passed for him is more than the linear time he was present on Earth.
Stated: >8 years
Calculated: >8 years
The Third Morbius Doctor
The Third Morbius Doctor has two children, Cedric and Jilly, who are implied to age from 0-15 between 1939/1940 and 1955, this is implied to be linear as Cedric and Jilly age at the same rate as their friends. In addition, he states that he spent 20 years on Earth during World War I, which is implied to be in this incarnation, similarly he first crash landed on Earth in 1918 and lived through to 1955. However, in addition to this, this Doctor claims he can ‘barely remember how many centuries’ it had been since he last saw musician Fred Bailey, who recognises this specific incarnation, indicating he lived for more than one century at a bare minimum, he says in FL3 he doesn’t always travel with Cedric and Jilly and his visits have been getting less and less numerous.
Stated: >57 years
Calculated: >200 years
The Fourth Morbius Doctor
This incarnation is claimed to have ‘met a premature end’ implying that he is the shortest lived of the Morbius incarnations. In addition to this, interviews with the author implied he actively travelled with only one major companion. ‘Rue’, whom he met on the first adventure after his renewal. The only statement we have is that he lived for four years on Earth between Rue’s departure and Swan’s first travels.
Stated: >4 years
Calculated: >4 years
The Fifth Morbius Doctor
The Fifth Morbius Doctor implies he lived a similar amount of time to the linear amount of time passed between the outbreak and aftermath of Space War II. Totalling to 16 years, in that story he meets his companion, Dattany, who resembled Patience 16 years prior but had greyed between then and when she starts travelling with him. She was stated to be 147 and look 60 by his rejuvenation/execution and no longer resembles Patience at all. Scaling her lifespan based off the average human lifespan and whatnot gives a total of approximately 61 years of travel with the Doctor. However, we do know that this incarnation did drop Dattany off in the aftermath of his family’s deaths, long enough to travel with at least one other companion.
Stated: >16 years
Calculated: >77 years
The Sixth Morbius Doctor
‘The Captain’ claims that the Sixth Morbius Doctor has lived for at least 120 years, this is still early in their lifespan but no other counts are ever given so that’s all we can go off.
Stated: >120 years
Calculated: >120 years
The Seventh Morbius Doctor
The Seventh Morbius Doctor has a total of 50 handlers, which all seem to last enough time for him to remember them. One mission alone lasted 49 days and assuming each handler lasted at least one mission would put an absolute lower bound on this incarnations lifespan of 7 years. Though he likely has lived for much longer as, in addition to that lower bound being really low, this incarnation explicitly had a travelling era before being given a handler, plus months of rehabilitation after the events on Ortmeir and an unknown amount of time having escaped from Gallifrey travelling with Bretor Ohm.
Stated: N/A
Calculated: >7 years
The Eighth Morbius Doctor
The Eighth Morbius Doctor has pretty much no indication of his lifespan other than the implication he’s had a large number of companions and that he lived longer than the Fourth Morbius Doctor who ‘met a premature end, which implies he lives for at least four years. Jack and Varne seem to age roughly in sync between FL1 and FL3’s stories, implying if Varne’s aging matches human aging that Varne travelled with this Doctor for roughly two years.
Stated: N/A
Calculated: >4 years
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