#Dark Sides

[le-sapphic-artist]

Roman pre-AA: yeah no I’m not dealing with him

Logan, pointing to the other Dark Sides: would you rather deal with them?

Roman:

Roman: never mind we’ll take the purple one

[ghoztdrawzzz]

Is this anything

[imnotgrimimjustagrumpyreaper]

The subtle confirmation that Remus and Janus have just NOT been included in anything for YEARS?? Can you imagine living in a world with exactly seven people and you don't get invited to Christmas?? I'm sorry, I'll never shut up about this.

[the-name-i-want-was-taken]

Facts about the dark sides you probably already know:

-They each have an association with a certain animal

Virgil: cat (scaredy cat)

Janus: snake (liars are often referred to as snakes)

Remus: octopus (no clue)

-They each have an ability to make Thomas listen to them

Virgil: voice gets louder

Janus: can shut the other sides up

Remus: can muffle the other sides and be the only one Thomas can fully hear

-They all have makeup included in their looks

-They appear instead of rise up

-They all have seemingly ‘grown up’ together. Similarly as the light sides seem to have hung out with and known each other the most before the show began, it’s clear that Virgil, Janus, and Remus were all (once, in Virgil’s case) extremely close.

-They all wear black

Little side note/theory, Logan is the only light side to also wear black. Given that he has some connection to the unknown orange dark side, whether it be because he becomes him or the side splits off of him, it’s interesting to note this.

-Before DWIT, Virgil was unsettled and scared of Remus

-Janus and Virgil both share a job of self preservation, but Janus goes about it in a way Virgil is deeply against

-Remus is the only side in an official episode to have had a solo (his song was entirely sung by him)

-Remus canonically whispers ideas into Roman’ ear while he’s sleeping

-Unlike the other two, Remus has not undergone character development to better fit in with the group. Instead, Thomas and the sides have developed around him since you can’t reason with intrusive thoughts. All you can do is accept them and move forward.

-Janus and Virgil were the only sides in Selfishness vs. Selflessness to not swear to tell the truth.

-Remus is the only side to have revealed his name in the first episode he was in

-All of the dark sides have been bested by Logan

Virgil was beaten by him in their debate

Janus was shut down by Logan emphasizing the importance of knowledge and how it’s our greatest defense

All of the distress Remus was causing was explained away by Logan’s words and methods to help Thomas move forward

[incorrect-robbie]

Janus: What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas

Virgil: Amen

Remus: Except for the herpes that shit’ll come back to haunt you

[dikdikpronouncedxylophone]

Virgil: Do either of you have any healthy stress outlets?

Remus: Yelling!

Janus: Drinking.

Remus: Murder!

Janus: Manipulation.

Virgil: Ok, so we have yelling...

[blitheringbongus]

Dark sides are finished! Three more to go!

[grey0-0]

My Roman Empire is the sides and Thomas’s reactions after Janus got slapped

[43on14n]

My three boyfriends. And yes, they smoke weed.

[loganslowdown4]

Today I was thinking about how the dark sides are represented as ‘villains’ because c!Thomas thinks that that side of himself is reprehensible. Like he sees completely in black and white. And because of this, any thought or action that comes from that side is immediately villainized, to the point where they act and even look like cartoon villains.

His point of reference for ‘bad guys’ has always been from his experience with the media he consumes, like cartoons or video games. It’s actually an immature way of looking at himself.

I get the wanting to separate good from bad, and this works for the big moral yes or no questions. But there gets to be a point where we grow up and realize that most instances in our lives have shades of grey answers, which is actually why Janus and Remus are there. We eventually just accept those sides of ourselves as part of us.

And eventually, they become more mellow and we realize they’re just there for self preservation. It’s not selfish to look after yourself if you have to lie about something. We’re not bad because we have intrusive thoughts. Being bothered by them literally shows us what NOT to do. In their way, they are a form of moral compass.

Neither sides are there to make him comfortable, but being comfortable leaves you vulnerable when you need protection. So Janus and Remus aren’t great sides but they aren’t ‘villains’ either, as Thomas sees them. They deserve acceptance just as much as Virgil does, because, like Virgil, they’re working to protect Thomas just as much.

Just some food for thought today! 😁 Also check out the colours in Thomas’ tie whoa 👀🤍🖤

[analoceits]

virgil being aware of an inside joke between janus and remus and HATING that he knows it. i. i thhink im gonna have oragn failure.

[skylarstar1000]

Give it up for the biggest baddest gang of dorks known to mankind.

VIRGIL, REMUS, AND JANUSSSSS!!!

[touyubesposts]

My Sander Sides Enlightment

You know what’s always kinda bothered me? Those mean takes on the other sides. Like ‘Janus is manipulating Patton and isn’t actually trying to be friends with him,’ ‘Patton has too much moral superiority,’ ‘Roman never learns,’ So on and so forth. There is something bad to say about all the sides. No hate to anyone who's made one, you are valid and probably right in your own way. I think the only reason they bother me so much is because you can easily say the opposite. The most common phrase being ‘Nobody listens to ____’

“Nobody listens to Patton! He was trying to show the others that Virgil was good all along and only when Virgil was gone did they listen.”

“Nobody listens to Logan! He gets ignored constantly and he’s getting mad because of it.”

“Nobody listens to Roman! Every time he comes up with a solution, he gets shut down only to get blamed for not coming up with a solution.”

“Nobody listens to Virgil! He only gets listened to when he forces Thomas to hear him, and he doesn’t like doing that.”

“Nobody listens to Janus! Even when he has good ideas and arguments, they get pushed to the side because he is a dark side.”

“Nobody listens to Remus! That was the entire point of an episode. And all he wants is to be listened to, it doesn’t matter who.”

And all of these are valid points. But at some point, you have to wonder who’s not listening the most. Which is how I think the criticism posts of the characters came to be in the first place. But I don’t think any of them are to blame. Even when this new side gets revealed, it won’t be his fault either. The fault isn’t on Roman, or Logan, or Janus, or any of them.

It's on Thomas.

And of course I don’t mean ‘Writer Thomas,’ I mean ‘Character Thomas.’ Throughout the series, Thomas has always held himself high. You can’t be perfect, but you can try to be. And every time a situation comes up, he doubts himself, wondering if he’s even any good at all.

And in comes the sides, telling him that he can’t be bad and here's why. In fact, Thomas won’t let himself be bad at anything. Can’t be a bad worker, can’t be a bad actor or singer, and certainly can’t be a bad friend. Even in situations where he wouldn’t even be those things, he can’t even let himself risk it.

And so, the sides follow suit.

Logan becomes the perfect person for knowledge and learning, never letting himself be anything less than right all the time.

Roman strives to be perfect physically and materialistically, coming up with creative ideas that help Thomas move up in the world or, at the very least, make himself feel better.

Patton is the perfectly moral person. Make sure everyone is alright, help whenever and wherever you can, and always keep a smile on. Wouldn’t want anyone worrying for you, right? That wouldn’t be good.

Virgil is the perfect alarm system. Even false alarms are taken with the utmost seriousness. Just as long as no one else knows your anxious.

Janus is a deceiver. And Thomas lies often. So he needs to be the best at putting on a face and making sure nothing goes off without a hitch. Wouldn’t want people catching him in a lie. He needs to be the perfect liar.

And then there's Remus. The only one who tries not to be perfect. But that idea terrifies the others so much, Remus is left to pick up all of the imperfection slack. Maybe that's why Remus was offended when he was called ‘Scary.’

Trying to be so many perfect things all at once, you’re going to but heads with all of the different aspects of yourself. You're going to not listen. You're going to ignore. And in some cases, your perfectionism is going to make you look like the bad guy. And as someone with perfectionism, I relate a little too hard.

Thank you for reading.

[piliiiiiconfusionf]

By far the creepiest thing I have ever drawn

Have a fusion between all the Dark Sides! :D along with some doodles I couldn't resist adding because we are talking about the Sides XD sillies ever

The idea was Remus's attempt to make them reconcile being together like this! Creepy because Virgil likes it

Hope you like! :D

Doodles under the cut

[citruside]

Sander Sides - 💛 Dark 💜 Side 💚 Eyes 👁️

Bonus: 🧡👁️

Light Side Eyes 💙🩵❤️

Who’s Lucius? Learn about him here!

Cronus Name Theory Concept

[dikdikpronouncedxylophone]

Virgil: Give me one reason I shouldn’t kill you where you stand.

Remus: My husband is watching.

Janus: We are not married.

Janus: ... but seriously, if you kill him before I do, I will remove all of your organs in alphabetical order.

Remus: We are so fucking married.