#Daniel Talia

[caffeinatedvigilantewriter]

So Danny has an ice core. But i don’t think that Dani had an elemental core that was mentioned in the show.

So in this prompt, Dani has an earth core. She’s getting used to using it, practicing almost daily when she’s alone.

Until one day, someone sees her.

Ra’s comes across a girl with incredible earth magic and kidnaps her, forcing her to teach his grandson Damian her magic.

Damian was only 4 to her 12, but he was liminal enough so that he could develop a core. A shadow core.

If Dani was honest, she didn’t hate her years with the LOA. Ra’s was a creep, but Talia treated and referee to her as a daughter. She knew the Leuage was bad news, but they gave her a home.

Damian was young, he didn’t understand blood relations in family. So when he saw his mother treat Dani like a daughter, he just assumed her was her sister and just never end mentioned his thoughts. After all, Mother never mentioned she before, so Damian thought he shouldn’t either.

Meeting his father only solidified his theory. Dani and Bruce look similar enough. He also never mentions another sister other than Cass.

It was only a couple years later that Damian’s magic is found out and her goes

Damian: I don’t know why you’re so surprised, your other daughter also has magic. Mother never has any so it must come from you

Everyone looks at Bruce: … your other WHAT??

Bruce: …🤨😟😣😩

Even better if Danny has already joined the JLD and meets Damian and Damian is like

Damian: 🤨🤨

[bluerosefox]

Her Astrophel and Sterling

hmmm

Hmmmmmmmm

You know what.

You know those AU's where the Batfam finds or learns about either hidden or thought to be dead Al Ghul Danny! with a deaged/daughter Dani (Ellie) (I should know, I created a few of those storylines) but what if, now hear me out, what if instead of them finding Danny first its Talia.

Do I want Talia discovering her thought to be dead son to be alive? Yes. Do I want her to find him while investigating Amity Park when the League gets reports of 'Lazarus creatures/water'? Yes.

DO I WANT HER TO KNOCK ON THE FENTON'S DOOR, fully ready to pretend/honey talk her way into the house to uncover what the Fenton's know, ONLY TO MEET A LITTLE ELLIE?!

YES.

Ellie whose eyes and hair look like a copy of her Beloved but she can see bits and pieces of herself as well. Talia knows the child in front of her was not fully her's though but everything makes sense when she hears a voice, a voice she hasn't heard in ages but as a mother just knows, speak out.

"Ellie! I thought I said do not answer the door my Sterling."

"But Daddy, yous was busy fighting the hotdoggys!"

Talia's eyes widen when she finally catches sight of familiar black hair and blue eyes.

and she could only lightly whisper a old nickname she hasn't dared uttered in ages, a name she secretly gave her son due to his love of the stars "Astrophel..."

[satoshy12]

Damian knew he had been created in a laboratory, his mother had told him. He was the son of Batman and Talia Al Ghul!

Well, he learned that was only part of the story, as his grandfather once told him the truth.

Ra's: "Because her son's always on a mission or having his own cult and all that. Sometimes she gets her maternal instincts back. That is why we created you. Damian, who was now Robin: "So this is how Drake felt as a replacement. " Ra's: "Well, in a way, Timothy was your replacement too? If that makes you feel better. Damian: "I'm much better than Drake, he didn't deserve to be my replacement!" Ra's: "Yeah, anyway, you can meet Danyal when he comes to visit next week. It would be good for you to meet him and Ellie".

+ Danny died and was reborn in this world after a deal with Clockwork and Ra.

He liked the new place, although his new mum had empty nest syndrome when he got Dani back because he was on a mission for a few months. It turned out that she had made a new one for his mission of a few years.

But he seemed quite happy when Dani and Damian became friends.

And then he talked to his grandfather about the mission from Clockwork.

[hello-eden]

More Danny as Talia ideas.

 I think Danny would see themself in Damien a lot when he first starts as Robin. The young vigilante thing is probably something that Danny would not want at all due to how much pain Danny was in when he first started. I feel like Danny started Phantom because he felt guilty due to being the reason the portal opened and I think he would hate Damien starting even younger than he was. 

Damien is definitely introduced to Sam and Tucker at a young age. They are his godparents. Damien grew up probably thinking they were either under their mother's command which is not wrong due to team Phantom or he would think of them as caretakers when he was younger.

Ellie would have trained Damien while she was still in the league. Ellie was definitely Damian's favorite trainer and when she left / faked her death he was really hurt. 

Sam, Tucker and Ellie all live together. Danny goes  to visit them when they complete missions early. The place they live at is said to be a personal safe house for Talila and Damien probably knows it as the last resort place to stay. 

I believe at a young age Danny started to siphon the power off of the Lazarus pits or at least Ras personal Lazarus pit. When it started out as Danny personally taking the power for themselves when they're tired and eventually they continue doing it out of spite.

[finemealprompt]

Dani mistaken as a clone of Talia and no one will listen to her. Not that she is really trying to hard to tell them the truth. They are part of the government same as the GIW. So she doesn't really trust them. She has hit her distress button long ago. Never thought she would need it but Danny and crew are coming for her

What a fun prompt! I wonder who they are? Like who doesn't believe her? The Justice League? The Batfam? Legion of Doom? So many possibilities ...

[starry-bi-sky]

new Danyal al Ghul au just dropped! --or at least some art of it did. I call it the "Stillborn? No, no, still born" au (or stillborn just for short)

it's based off a batfam comment I saw that mentioned in the early comics Bruce knew about Talia's pregnancy and was ecstatic to be a father. So much so that Talia feared he'd give up being Batman for it, so when she gave birth she put the baby (Damian) on a doorstep and (seemingly) told Bruce that the baby was stillborn.

I saw it, thought "mm, tasty!" and thought what if that baby was Danny instead of Damian? By default I was thinking of making him a few years older, however, it works just as well with demon twins. I need to think it over. Meet Daniel Brown! 14 year old foster kid whose been with the Fentons for the last two years! He has SO many issues haha. hah. lmfao even.

Danny's theme song is literally just "Good Kid" from the Percy Jackson musical, to sum him up.

[dorothy16]

jennyandersonphoto What a beautiful, full circle moment to watch @merrilyonbway’s final Broadway show today after shooting their final show last year at @nytw79 and being with them backstage at the @thetonyawards I just adore these humans and what they created. I love the magic of theatre so much and watching today’s performance was one of those once in a lifetime theatrical experiences that make it so special.

[im-totally-not-an-alien-2]

Danny at the age of 15 come out to 'his' parents as trans only for them to accuse her of being a ghost. It goes about as horribly as you expect and Danny is forced to leave behind everything she has ever known and jumps into a new dimension that is difficult to get to, even through the Infinite Realms. Appearently it only opened for a short time once every thousand years so once she went throught there was no going back and no one could go after her.

Needless to say this is how she starts her life as Danielle Nightingale.

She used her shape-shifting ability to make herself biologically a girl because if she has the power than why not use it? Free transition surgery! She looks herself in the mirror, very pleased with the girl version of herself: long and straight raven hair down to her thighs, pale skin, and pale blue eyes, she was beautiful. She also looked like she could scare the daylights out of someone if she covered her face with her hair and popped out of a tv. She was definitely going to try that sometime. She felt a little bad swiping Danis name like that, but from what her little sister had told her, she might actually be her little brother and they might pull a full uno reverse card on thier names and genders.

However, a beautiful young lady appearing out of no where, buying up a large building and converting it into a home, and seemingly has an infinite amount of money? In Gotham no less? Suspicious.

The bats flock around her and thier suspicion grows when it becomes obvious she notices them and is ignoring them. A rogue attack happens, forcing Danielle and Robin to fight together. Danielle kicks butt even in a long flowing dress and stilettos. Damian is impressed and Danielle thinks he's totally her type (look back at Valerie and Sam and tell me I'm wrong).

She flirts with him and thanks him for rescuing her and he compliments her fighting skills while ignoring Nightwing "cheering him on" in his romantic endeavors.

Batman and Red Robin are still suspicious and stake out Danielles home. They watch her through her window as she goes through her nighttime routine over and over, always ending with her sitting on her bed in her nightgown combing cruelty free hair products into her hair while humming a lullaby to herself.

It was after several nights of this (and Tim wondering what she saw in Damian) that something finally happened. A glowing gree puppy appeared out of thin air, and jumped onto the bed. Danielle seemed delighted to see the pup and began petting it. The meta(?) dog then dropped a bottle into her lap and she pulled a rolled up piece of paper from it.

A letter?

[spacedace]

Does anyone else have the thing where they just end up trying to pack The Most ™️ into a fic? Like, I have an initial, simple premise, then my brain is like, hey remember all these other things? Let's squash em in there, they fit.

And like, I can make them fit, but at what point is it too much? At what point is there no more room for things to make sense?

Take for example my Gotham's Favorite Psychiatrist Jazz AU, it started simple with the idea "hey what if Jazz said fuck Arkham and tried to work directly with the rogues and gave the Batfam a crisis in the process?" Then it expanded to include some fun BatPham chaos and shenanigans (see the disaster dinner snippets lol) and now I'm working on trying to fit in such bangers as:

- Dan adopts feral gremlin Billy after the kid tries to steal his wallet and is a supportive dad to his magic vigilante son

- Danny decides to Be Gay and Do Crimes by tracking down Catwoman and asking her to teach him how to be a cat burglar (without using his powers, because he's trying to challenge himself) to pull off some Robin Hood shit

- Elle and Talia's adventures of trying to save Damian from Ras without alerting him to the fact that Ras is up to shit because they both just want him to not have to deal with that shit

And like, half a dozen other smaller things on top of that that I want to incorporate, but like at what point is it too much? At what point do I atop trying to shove it all in one bag and instead break it down into smaller stuff? Like all of the above could be their own stories (and literally everything I post is up for being used as writing prompts, yall are fantastic and I'd love to read everything yall wrote using those ideas) so should I just make them their own or just keep trying to fold it all in to one thing?

[kennysimp101]

EXAMS OVERRRR YOUR GIRLS DONE WITH SCHOOL OMGGGG!!!

Yk what this means....

NEW FICS OUT SOON MY LOVELYS

So keep dropping in request, i have a few to catch up in my inbox but now i shall be more regular (hopefully)

[caffeinatedvigilantewriter]

So you’ve seen the demon twins au but I present to you older brother Danny.

Danny is older by two years (important!) and is the heir. Something happened and Danny ended up in Amity, becomes a halfa. Dani is born. The echo acts are put in place and Danny takes Dani and is forced to go back to the League and take refuge there. Damian doesn’t know he’s alive. They don’t tell Talia because she might not keep it a secret. (Danny is 16, Dani and Damian are 14)

Damian is probably living with Bruce and doesn’t know about Dani existing. And because Dani and Damian are the same age (two years younger than Danny) Talia pretends like she’s his twin that Damian and Bruce never knew about.

So now not only does Damian have a brother, he also has a twin.

So one thing or another, Bruce finds out about Dani and Danny and wants to get them out of the LOA and in with them.

But Dani and Danny don’t want that. Being officially part of the Wayne’s would paint a huge target on their backs and the GIW could easily find them.

So they basically play cat and noise with the Wayne’s until they get found out about the acts.

Any type of media is welcome as long as you tag and comment :)))

[genextsofuniverse]

Espera, a TJ saber sobre a morte dela meio que não deveria causar um buraco de minhocas na própria linha do tempo ou, sei-lá, fazer a morte dela não acontecer? Talvez você pode ter esperança TJ!

Evan: Olha só, não faço parte da galera super genios, mas até que tem algum sentindo nisso. Eu curti a teoria, podemos adotar.

Henry: Eu faço parte da galera nerd e, não querendo ser chato e nem estraga prazeres, isso não muda nada. Porque assim, a unica informação que ela tem, é que em, sei lá, vinte e tantos anos no futuro ela não vai estar mais viva. Só que ninguém deu uma data pra ela. Nem uma hora, nem um motivo, ou lugar. Então, basicamente, ela tá igual o resto de todos nós. E também tem aquele lance de profecias, que é tentando parar elas que voce acaba tornando elas realidade. Ou então, também podemos aplicar a teoria do evento canonico onde....

Talia: Pym, eu só não te jogo da janela agora mesmo porque o Connor te adora. Mas se ajuda um pouquinho e cala a boquinha, vai.

[satoshy12]

Dani's complicated DC Family tree

In a dimly lit laboratory, Dani Phantom paced back and forth at the holographic screens displaying her DNA sequences. She saw Danny's family tree and her own!

She was related to Selina Kyle and Bruce Wayne by Danny, and the other part of her DNA was from Talia al Ghul. She knew he was adopted but didn't know this.

She thought to herself, Maybe she should meet them; I mean, Danny is working in Nasa at the moment as a test pilot.

So she made her way to Gotham to see the city where he lived. I mean, she only read about him in the News. And she couldn't really tell him she was his clone granddaughter.

In Gotham 

Older People noticed she looked familiar, and as Alfred saw her, he saw Martha Wayne as a child before him.

After a DNA test, they were all super confused—even more than they should be.

Damian was the most confused, at this even more then Bruce who was shocked.

+

As Bonus Jon x Dani, she meet him in her travels and it kind of got a spark, Jon was pretty shocked as he saw his Girlfriend as he visited Dami. And he can explains it! Don't tell his mother he hide his girlfriend from her!

[avelnfear]

Chapter Ten

Masterlist

Damian wondered if it would be okay to give into the urge to tackle Danny for cuddles now. He’d held back during the entire plane trip back, and he had snuggled with his mother rather than Danny when he’d found where they’d been fighting. He’d spent way too long pretending that he didn’t know such an important person in his life, and it was getting hard, he could practically feel himself vibrating in place. Damian was staring at Danny as he tried to figure it out, even though he knew that he could be considered rude for doing so. 

Nellie was curled into one side, so the other was open for snuggling and there was enough room on the couch. Finally after twelve centuries, it was only five minutes according to his internal clock, Danny noticed him staring and smiled an okay. Still, Damian waited until Nellie gave her consent too before diving at Danny.

There were gasps around the room, and Damian heard at least one person yell his most common nickname in the tone that said they thought he was about to hurt somebody. He ignored all of them in favor of finally, finally, curling up into Danny’s side, one arm reaching behind them to tangle his fingers with Nellie’s. Damian’s eyes slipped closed as he let out a noise of contentment, but he knew that there were shocked looks directed at him from almost every member of his family. It wasn’t his fault that acting like the well adjusted person he used to be would have doomed the world to ending, so he didn’t feel like the gazes were quite warranted.

“So. How about I start out with a brief backstory and then we can get into your questions?” Danny’s voice sent soft rumbles through Damian with how close he was to them. It made Damian let out another sound filled with how content he was to be right where he wanted to be.

“That would be acceptable.” Father’s voice was tense enough that Damian knew him being so close to someone Father considered an unknown probable threat wasn’t giving everyone else the same comfort it was giving him. Oh well.

Danny took in a deep breath, telling Damian which story they were going to tell before they even started. “This is not the first life we’ve lived together. At first, we didn’t really know each other. Tim and I were online friends who discussed superheroes, but we didn’t know each other irl, we didn’t want to. In those days Amity Park, my hometown, was a neighboring city to Gotham, only about an hour or so away. I was adopted at around the age of ten by the Fenton family, in that life at least. I met Jason about eight years later when a government agency picked up signs of contamination on both of us. They called us ghost scum even though the actual term coined by the species we were technically a part of is Existences. Jason and I had both died at least once, brought back at different times and in different ways, but it meant we showed up on their scanners.”

“They’re called the GIW and they’re nearly nonexistent.” Nellie sounded sleepy, but Damian refused to open his eyes to double check.

“Yes, I was getting to that, but thank you.” Danny was surely smiling at Elle, but Damian knew it would drop as soon as the story continued, this was a hard time to relive for all of them who were there and remember. “The GIW did horrible experiments on us with a secondary purpose of killing us eventually. One of the worst things they did was make us believe we were being rescued utilizing some sort of hallucinogen that would make us see and hear whatever we wanted to see and hear then pretending to break us out only to punish us for attempting to escape. It took too long for us to be found, so by the time a real breakout was actually happening-”

“Jason flinched at his own guns.” Damian interrupted, finally opening his eyes to stare at Jason as the memory of that day played in his head. “He only realized it was a real gun when he used it to save us from an agent who was sneaking up on us. The hope and fear that lit up his face at that moment will always stay with me. No one got mad at me when I started to use excessive force, mainly because they were too busy doing the same. By the time we realized Da and Pops were gone, we’d basically destroyed the entire base, leaving the crippled remnants of their agents behind.” Damian saw the horror in Jason’s eyes, and all it did was remind him of that fateful day.

Danny ran their fingers through his hair, and he let it relax him enough for his eye to drift closed, leaning into the point of contact. “We didn’t fully trust that it was actually real, so Jason and I ran to Clockwork and Frostbite, two Existences who live in the dimension all Existences can call home, the Infinite Realms. We stayed there for a couple months to a couple years, time is hard to judge around Clockwork. When we got back, we couldn’t be separated from each other for too long because that typically meant the next experiment would be absolutely awful. Jason and I lived that life to an end that was a long time coming, dying side by side in the same way we’d always lived. It was a good life. Jack and Maddie were good in that one, we managed to rescue Talia from the mind control and brainwashing she was under, and we lived a full life that was full of love and joy.”

“If only it could have lasted into the next.” Elle’s voice was so miserable that Damian scooted closer to Danny to tangle the fingers of their spare hands together, giving his precious ghoul as much comfort as he could.

“Elle is right, the next life was absolutely awful. Damian was never born because Talia died early, Tim died as a tiny child, almost everyone we knew and loved were dying left and right. A combination of having to personally see most of those deaths, Fear Toxin, Joker Venom, and being constantly dipped into the Lazarus Pit drove the Dick of that life to such insanity he eventually blew up the entire universe, forcefully making everyone  in that universe move on. Jason and I remembered our first life for the entirety of our second, but I didn’t remember either life we’d lived until I reached what I think is eighteen years of mortal life and full maturity as an Existence. Existences don’t age or count maturity in the same way that mortals do, so Elle is technically my adult child even though she’s only about sixteen-ish in mortal years.”

Elle hummed. “Jack’s a piece of shit in this life though.”

Danny groaned playfully. “You’re so lucky that you can swear because you weren’t there when most of the town got soul cursed because of that stupid wish.”

“What, you gonna tell me I’m strawberry crepe grounded because you’re jealous I can say fuck?” Elle was probably smirking, if the teasing frame of voice was anything to go by. Damian just stayed floating in the void of black behind his eyes, letting the voices of his loved ones wash over him as the sense of peace rocked him to sleep so suddenly that he barely registered when it happened.

~`~`~

“I’ve never seen Demon Brat go to sleep like that before.” Jason’s voice was quiet and full of shock, managing to express himself while still making sure he didn’t wake his brother up.

“You mean you don’t remember him sleeping like this before, just like you don’t remember him ever calling you Pops before.” There was a slight smirk on Danny’s face that Jason saw in the corner of his eye as he kept staring at Damian, half expecting him to wake up because Danny hadn’t lowered their voice at all. “Don’t worry he won’t wake up.”

Dick shifted, drawing Jason’s attention to the stiff way he was sitting. “Why did he call you Da and Jason Pops?”

“Because that’s what I call them!” Nellie chirped.

Danny chuckled. “He married Nellie here in our first life, so we were his in-laws. Talia is his mother, Bruce is his father, Jason is his pops, I’m his da, and you, Dick, are his dad. He just didn’t have a chance to address you as such before falling asleep.”

“How does he remember? Is there a way that we could remember?” Tim sounded like he wanted to ask more, but Jason respected his ability to cut his questions off, staying silent because he didn’t think he could do the same.

“I think he made a deal with Clockwork to prevent the chaos of our second life, taking upon himself the burden of remembering for us. I don’t think he remembers the second, because I don’t know if he ever existed in the second. As for a way that you could remember… Jason will remember eventually, as soon as the Pit’s Influence finally leaves him behind. As for the rest of you… only if you become an Existence, of which there are many types. If you’re asking to see if you managed to solve your case before, you didn’t.” Danny looked so sad at the end there that Jason couldn’t help what blurted out of his mouth next.

“What happened to Tim with the twin case?”

Danny looked even closer to tears, and Jason felt like kicking himself at seeing that expression on their face. “He died.” Shock kept the room completely still and silent. “He didn’t share it, adding another massive project on top of his work in his civilian life and his vigilante life. The rest of you, not knowing what was bothering him and not wanting to push him too hard just tried to pick up the slack in a desperate attempt at giving him a break. It didn’t work. The more time he had off from his other obligations, the more he sunk into the twin case, but he never found anything.” The words poured out of Danny like a waterfall of agony, paralyzing everyone else in the room with the sheer depth and intensity of the feeling. “It.. It got to the point that we all tried to bench him, but he grabbed a spare suit and snuck out. On route to the Twin Case Safehouse, which is where I live now, he ran into the Joker, who killed him. We.” Danny paused, taking in a deep, fortifying breath that had Jason stiffening in fear for what would be said next. “We managed to keep Tim alive and back to the Cave. He was the right kind of personality and in the right kind of space to become an Existence after death, but he-” Tears started leaking from Danny’s eyes, as he broke off to do some calming breathing techniques. A minute of silence later, he picked the thread of the story back up again. “He said that he didn’t want to continue existing, that he didn’t deserve to, because he’d never finished his case. He said that the only solution he could come to is that his target was already dead and he refused to continue living in any way when they’d already passed into Limbo. He was the first to die.”

“Who else died to the Joker?” Bruce’s voice was quiet and fearful, yet steady, like he was horrified of the potential answers but needed to know regardless. Jason needed to know too, Danny had come home exhausted every time he’d been assigned to guard the clown. Jason needed to know how bad it was.

“Jason and I in our second life, Bruce, Tim, Dick, Duke, and Steph in our first life. He ordered the bomb set that killed Jazz, Tuck, Sam, and Jack in that first life as well. He was at least involved in the situations that killed most of you in the second life as well. He blinded Dick only a month before he killed him, so there’s that. He baited Scarecrow into the attack that killed Alfred. He tortured Jon into silence and a near coma, and he was at least part of a lot of the hero deaths that occurred in that first life, although most of those weren’t the most well known of heroes. Every time I see him, I refuse to give him any satisfaction, locking my emotions and feelings deep inside to present a blank mask to him all the while fighting back my natural instincts to kill him,” Danny’s face and voice were as dark as the topic, “To torture him and show him just what he put my family through in a life he no longer remembers, to show him what true fear really is, to make him the focus of every joke he once pulled, to-” Danny cut off when Damian stirred in his sleep, automatically brightening as he turned a little more towards Damian to pass their fingers through his hair again, muttering things that Jason couldn’t hear that caused Damian to sigh and relax back into sleep.

“We’re movin on from this topic. You guys can go discuss whatever ya want to in another room, but I’m gonna set this couch up inta the bed it can become and Ma, Damian, n I will be takin a nap. Don’t disturb us for your own safety, now shoo.” Nellie glared at them while flapping her hands until everyone had left and closed the door.

Jason was worried for Danny, that was a heavy topic and a heavy burden to carry. He was worried for Damian too, carrying the same weight for so long must have been exhausting. Talia was waiting for them in the sitting room that everyone settled into for the post questioning discussion. She took one look at their faces and gave them all an understanding smile.

“I remember everything too. Jason and Danny both needed a stand in to take the burden of remembering everything in order for this whole thing to work. Ask all your remaining questions to me, I’ll answer what I can.” At the disbelieving looks she received, she let out a short bark of laughter. “I swear on my loyalty to High King Phantom that I will not lie to any of you for this discussion.” The words sent a feeling of power through the room. “Believe me now?”

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[rainybyday]

Thought Ramble Time!

(Also, this is, like, biology class time so unless you know what happens to a body when exposed to chemicals you might not get this. Good Luck! :D )

I suggest that those who do not what a biology lesson with a long post should leave to save themselves the headache this was. 

Ok so here’s the thing. The fandom likes to make the Lazarus Pit and Ectoplasm as one of the same things with the Pit being a corrupted version of Ectoplasm. The corruption of the ectoplasm is the reason why Jason is always in a Pit Rage or something of that sort. 

Let me lay this out. 

Danny is a Halfa who is both a human and a ghost. Jason, while different for everyone, will be a Liminal since that's the most common occurrences that people like to write him as. (No, I’m not saying he isn’t a ghost or halfa or anything like that, this is just an idea ramble from the au bin, ok?!)

Jason was dipped into the Pit/Ectoplasm while Danny was ripped apart and put back together in multiple secessions in seconds. 

What I am trying to say is how different they both are in means of creation and the different sub species there can be.

Ok so let's start with the easiest - Jason.

Jason was dipped once into the Pit which is ectoplasm. That means he is contaminated with ectoplasm in his body and rewriting his DNA from the exposer of a chemical that no living being should touch. Ectoplasm is for the dead but, while brain dead in a sense, he was very much alive. Think of how someone might get exposed to a nuclear bomb and having their body changing and dying from such occurrences. That right there is what is happening to Jason’s body. Jason is technically dying yet still very much alive, so the question is, how is Jason still alive?

Well, it might be because he is immune or has something in his body that is preventing that. If we look at the history of the Pit, only the al Ghul’s and a selective few are able to leave from the Pit alive while everyone else dies. I think it's because they have a gene or something rare in them, like being the one in a billion kind of rare that makes them immune/prevent them from dying from ectoplasm exposer. Thats like saying someone has type O blood or such. 

If that was the case, then Ra’s would also count as well from the millions of times he used the Pit yet still come out alive. 

However, exposer doesn’t mean no mutations. I think they both do have mutations that either affect the brain or nervous system (which can explain some of their actions honestly) because of the violent and instant exposer they both had. Such violent methods will have consequences on their bodies even if their bodies are keeping them from dying. 

Now what if someone is exposed to the ectoplasm but not skin to skin exposer? Well, that's how we have the Fenton’s. 

The Fenton’s are scientist who study ectoplasm and worked hard on their research of that area but based on how unsafe and lightly they seem to take from being exposed by ectoplasm, much less a house hazard of open chemicals, they are being exposed in a slower degree. 

Jason was out right exposed to ectoplasm right off the bat in a violent clash while the Fenton’s had years of exposers on them including Vlad Masters. They study the substances, while careful at first, are way more carefree in handling ectoplasm though the years to come. This gradual exposer of ectoplasm is what will mutate their bodies for years so that they, too, are immune to ectoplasm. Not naturally mind you, by a biochemical change of exposer that could have lasting effects on them such as change of eye color of disfiguring or brain damage. 

As of right now, Jason Todd, Ra’s al Ghul, Maddie and Jack Fenton are the Exposer Group. They are the people that got exposed by the ectoplasm/Pit and were either mutated or biochemically changed in a way. 

Now for the off springs. 

For both Ra’s and Maddie/Jack Fenton, they are already exposed and adapted to the ectoplasm, hence, the mutation in their bodies. This mutation is designed into their very DNA, which would also be passed down if given to an offspring. 

Namely Talia al Ghul, Damian al Ghul nee Wayne, Jazz Fenton and Danny Fenton. 

While Talia, Jazz and Danny are of direct offspring, Damian is an offspring of an exposed offspring. Please keep this in mind. 

Ok so since these four are offsprings of those who are exposed and consequently, had their bodies biochemical mutated, that means their bodies also have the mutation that is of the exposer of exoplasm. Originally, this can either mean they have the same mutation their parents have, but since having DNA from unnatural mutated donors is still a half on half chance (because a baby has half its DNA from mom and half from dad) that would mean that Talia would have half of Ra’s mutation while Jazz and Danny have a full mutation in their bodies (because both Maddie and Jack has it) with Damian inheriting 1/4 of that mutated DNA. 

Reality would show that mutation is a bad thing to have and for your offspring, however, it would seem that having the mutation might be a good thing since there is not many flaws, unless natural human flaws, are displayed by both the comics and the shows. 

This inherited mutation can explain some things like the four’s more intelligent minds or maybe immunity to some diseases. The mutations can be identical for all four or it can be different for each one. However, it has to show that Jazz and Danny will have the most mutation compared to Talia, and Talia compared to Damain. 

Originally, the four were going to be called the Inherited Mutated Group, but that's wrong since these four are continually getting exposed to ectoplasm as well. 

Danny and Jazz are self-explanatory if you look at the food they fight and the house they sleep in. This version of their house can explain that either the LOL is contaminated as well or that Talia and Damian are making constant trips to visit the Pit. Either way, a constant exposer of ectoplasm will enhance their mutation and potential affects to this as well. Their affects won’t be as harmful since they are all from the mutated line, meaning they are born to adapt to the mutation rather well, but that's doesn’t mean they won’t get a mutation that is at a disadvantage to them either.

Another thing to note is that both Damian and Talia were instantly exposed to ectoplasm as well, as in skin-to-skin exposer.

So as of now, Talia al Ghul, Damian al Ghul nee Wayne, Jazz Fenton and Danny Fenton are all part of the Mutated Group. 

Now to the last group which features Vlad Masters and Danny Fenton. 

While both are from two different lines, they both do end up in the same subgroup which is to be recreated with the ectoplasm in an instant creation exposer. 

When both Vlad and Danny were zapped by the Ghost Portal, they were ripped apart molecule by molecule and put back together forcefully before being ripped again and put back together. Again. In an endless cycle that was too fast for the human eye can see, yet lasted seconds for both of them.

Now here’s the things. 

Vlad was part of the exposed line who was recreated, which means his body was not made to take in ectoplasm but was forcefully adapted to do so. This would cause mutations to his body to be less efficient and more harmful on his persona since his body was original not meant for a reaction of ectoplasmic chemicals. 

Danny, on the other hand, was born to accept the mutation in his body unlike Vlad. So, when Danny got zapped, his body was far more adaptable, and if I was to go as far as to say, wanting the need of ectoplasm in his body since his body was born mutated. This would mean that his body is more accepting to the mutations and changes his body will undergo and at a faster rate (hence why Danny was able to gain his ghost powers faster than Vlad).

Ok, so now that I said this, Danny and Vlad are of the Recreation Group. 

And you would think that we are done but no, we are not. 

Danielle. Uggggggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. 

I- I was going to say she is more mutated and grown backwards or something like that but my brain hurts so I'm a stop. 

But yes, that's my biological mutation DNA brain ramble. 

So list time!

Exposer (Instant) - Jason and Ra’s al Ghul [Bodies are immune and exposed]

Exposer (Gradual) - Maddie and Jack Fenton / Vlad Masters [Bodies are mutated]

Mutated Line - Jazz and Danny Fenton / Talila al Ghul and Damian Wayne/al Ghul [Direct line of those exposed, DNA mutated]

Exposed Mutated Line (Gradual) - Jazz and Danny Fenton / Talila al Ghul and Damian Wayne/al Ghul [Continues exposer even when natural mutation / Enchanted mutation]

Exposed Mutated Line (Instant) - Talia al Ghul and Damian al Ghul nee Wayne [Mutated line that is violently exposed to chemical, hence, instant mutated change. 

Recreated Exposed Line (Gradual) - Vlad Masters [Recently mutated and recreation of biology]

Recreated Mutated Line - Danny Fenton [Mutated and recreation of biology]

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