#DON'T SUPPORT AI WRITING
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beedreamscape · 2 years ago
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The ai discourse in fanfic writing only exists because people view fics as products for consumption and not works of art.
The same curse that plagues visual artists, youtubers, musicians, etc etc is starting to creep into fandom circles, because people don't appreciate the art form that is writing as much as they gobble almost mindlessly work after work without absorbing. It's almost like the high of binging a series and being left numb after is done, realizing you didn't savoured the story as much as just simply rushed to the end.
Fic writers will never work as fast as some stupid ai does. It's a labor of love that will, for the great majority, earn us no money or notoriety. The minimum any writer wants is connection and respect.
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radley-writes · 3 months ago
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I don't understand people who say things like 'but it doesn't matter if we don't pay artists/writers for their labour, or use free AI programs to replace artists/writers to improve our profits, because in a perfect world everyone would have UBI so it wouldn't matter xxx'
like. yes. but until we reach that perfect world, artists and writers need to eat?
why are you promoting AI replacement of creative people instead of working towards UBI? Until we have UBI, supporting generative AI in the creative field is no different to supporting supermarkets laying off all their till staff to turn to self-check out, or supporting factories who shut down and move overseas to exploit workers in countries with fewer human rights legislations?
Yes, in a perfect world, everyone would receive UBI. Therefore, people across the globe couldn't be exploited by corporations, and artists could create for the joy of it, in whatever way we desire - including with AI!
But we do not live in that perfect world.
Do you seriously expect this move towards generative AI to encourage people to support UBI, as opposed to people being forced into jobs they hate to make ends meet or no longer being able to support themselves financially?
Especially all the disabled people who make a living creating art and writing/editing, because that is, in fact, a career that is often far more available to disabled folks than a regular 9-5 or a retail job where you're expected to be on your feet all day (miss my disabled ass with the 'anti-AI = ableism' stance lmao).
This is not going to create your army of revolutionaries. This is just going to result in more independent creators being crushed under the boot heel of capitalism, as anyone who would've hired them flocks instead to the free alternative, and they're forced back into an incredibly exploitative labour market.
I agree that generative AI by itself is just a tool and is not inherently a problem.
But it is being abused, in ways that hurt creators.
If you support generative AI... what are you doing about that?
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toms-cherry-trees · 1 year ago
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At the rate you update I'm gona finish your series in chatgtp
Yeah, no.
That's not it.
If you want an AI to spit out a story for you, that's on you. But I did not spend days and weeks plotting, writing and rewriting and going over a fic ten times for you to threaten to put it onto an AI for a quick update.
I work. I am a nurse. I also have a family and friends, and have many other hobbies. Many writers can give you fics on the daily, but I can't. I've never done it and I won't start now. If you want daily updates find another author for you or write yourself.
I write slow, I don't have much time for it. I also have mental and physical issues. I doubt everything I write as English is a self taught language for me. And I've stopped enjoying a series or no longer vibe with it I won't write it because I won't force myself to post some half assed shit that will disappoint others and myself
Feeding fics to AIs is what drives authors away from writing and out of their blogs. Comments like these won't make us update faster it'll only make us wanna quit
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phaedo · 3 months ago
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watching nanowrimo defending ai blow up after years of abuse and mismanagement from nano hq is like watching every writer on the internet go "i can excuse rampant forum moderation abuse on two different websites but i draw the line at machine that helps you write"
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dustofthedailylife · 10 months ago
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Brief rant but there is something so appalling to me when I see a writer use AI-generated images (no I won't call it art because it isn't, tyvm) for the header/cover of their writing/fic.
People don't want their work scraped. Be it writing, visual arts, music or voices even. But then go and use AI-generated shit out of an art field they don't actively contribute to. It disgusts me. Have you no conscience or shame?
Most writers are actively against the use of AI. Many people don't want to read fics written by AI.
So for the love of god...
If you're against AI - fucking be against it in all art forms and not just your own. It's hypocritical af!
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loelett · 9 months ago
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anyone can unfollow if they think it's cool to post or purposefully interact with ai art btw
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withered--s0uls · 7 months ago
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I don't want to like send people after the OP so I'll just say it like this but
Do not use AI of Characters Voices / Voice Actors
Most VAs have asked not to do this, it steals their voice & work. People put that in the machine without the VAs consent.
Idc if you use it for "just a meme", a boundary is a boundary.
"But I want it to be vouce acted :(" - there are plenty of hobby VAs who will do imitations of characters for free. Contact them. Ask them. They love doing that kinda stuff! Plus you're supporting someone's work and passion that way, instead of stealing someone's voice!!
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frostbitedoesart · 8 months ago
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Just making a general post real quick in response to an ask.
When I say I'm anti-ai I mean I'm against any sort of AI that steals from others or would otherwise be used to put people out of a job. I don't feel like having an elaborate conversation about the positives and negatives of AI and all that, so I'll state this as plainly as possible.
I don't like AI art. I don't like AI voice impersonations. I don't like any sort of AI that has to steal stuff from people without their consent in order to function. That is literally it.
I'm not against ALL AI. I don't think people that are okay with AI in general should be burned at the stake or something. I'm just an artist and writer that doesn't like AI being used in CREATIVE SPACES. That's it.
I didn't think I would have to clarify this but, here you go, for anyone that was bothered.
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yandere-sins · 2 years ago
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So I thought I’d give a little life-update as there’s a lot going on at the moment and I think it’s visible on my blog as well. Maybe the positives first:
I do really like my new work, I like that I have set hours (even if I do overtime here and there) and though it got incredible stressful the last few weeks, I think the four people that work in my office space are the coolest in the whole company and I love the support I am getting, it’s something I always wanted for my work-life tbh! My dog is also doing very fine, she’s really a total sweetheart and I wouldn’t know what to do without her, and at least I, myself, am doing pretty okay-ish physically, so nothing to complain there.
Now to the negatives.
Unfortunately, my mom’s cancer returned but is quite hard to pinpoint. She went back to an even more aggressive chemotherapy and we’re hoping for the best. Honestly, I don’t wish cancer on anyone, it’s such a tough battle and even just as the primary caretaker it’s been really hard to deal with for me, luckily I have grandparents and a brother who all deal with it and help and support, so that’s good! My mental health though is suffering. It’s biting my own butt now, but I cancelled therapy to focus on work at the beginning of this year and now my therapist is fully booked, so I will have to sit out this month probably. I am telling that because that’s the reason I am struggling with concentrating on one thing for a long time, which includes writing, which explains the fluctuation of posts you are seeing, since I try to get requests and drafts done on the weekend when there’s less stress. Sadly only works like 30% of the time...
Going forward I have decided to indefinitely pause commissions. I have noticed that they put too much pressure with the deadline and expectancy on me when I am already struggling and sometimes need a day to myself. I can’t say when they’ll come back, but thank you all so much for your interest and support, it’s always a pleasure to write your ideas and I never had a bad experience with commission ♥
Good news for Mermay: it’s still happening! ... buuuut I am shortening the story I came up with. I think I was too ambitious with the three routes I teased, so I am trying to figure out how to ensure that it won’t drag out as much as Atreo’s story last year. Unfortunately, the start will be delayed some more, but we were going to celebrate Mer-June anyway, so at this point it probably doesn’t make as much difference (’:
Because the question arose a few times already, I will not be playing Honkai Star Rail. It has a few reasons, but the main one is I don’t have the time. Sorry to everyone who asked about it, but it’s just not the right time for me at the moment! ): I’ll probably be miserable again later when everyone has moved on to it and I am stuck behind but I have to make cuts somewhere ;;
I actually have some commissions and requests that I haven’t released yet, so I will try to schedule some of these in the meantime while I work out how to go about stuff. If you’ve been around for a while you probably know I like routines that’s why it’s always important for me to build them and keep them up. Other than that, I’ll probably focus on Mermay and my own writing projects which will happen rather irregularly. No guarantees on posting, sadly ):
I do realize tho that it just isn’t always possible to keep up frequency of posts and interactions I had when I started this blog, as much as it saddens me. I have to prioritze my real life before my internet presence (and I really need to not feel guilty about taking breaks from everything ever so often ;;), so if you see me vanishing for a few days, it’s just that really.
Thank you everyone who stuck around and supports this blog ♥ There’s another big milestone coming up veeery soon and I am always in awe that so many people would stay to read my silly little stories!! If you have some time and don’t mind waiting for a response, I’m always happy to chat and answer questions, so please don’t hesitate to hit me up!
Thanks everyone ♥
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mosspapi · 2 months ago
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I swear to god dude if my mother sends me one more fucking article or course or whatever abt using ai in a schooling environment I'm actually going to combust
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passionpluto · 2 years ago
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As if the whole AI art thing isn't already terrifying enough, now I learn that AIs are starting to replicate writing and...I just don't know.
Like, people have been running writers and artists off the Internet for actual years not even for being problematic people themselves, but for even daring to create art about problematic things. All this talk of "writing something=endorsing it IRL" just makes me fear that the book I've been working on for years with themes of kidnapping and abuse and mental health will be dead on arrival, because if an AI can create something fluffier that fits in more with the current standards of what's acceptable in Internet fandom subcultures, something that you won't be demonized for reading, them why wouldn't people pick that instead?
I know I'm probably being short-sighted and overly dramatic right now, and I want to believe that so desperately. That people will still want to challenge their mindsets with art that covers uncomfortable topics. But the Internet always seems to find a new way to prove me wrong.
So please, please continue to engage with artists, even if they aren't always perfect. Because for a lot of us, the minute we find out that there's a nonhuman presence that can train itself to become that way, we feel like we've already lost inside our head.
Please don't let us lose in the real world, too.
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cadams-art · 9 months ago
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@staff
SERIOUSLY.
Didn't the porn-ban teach them yhe first time?
They'll collapse their whole business again and be handed their financial ass.
There's no "win scenario" for a platorm cannibalizing the work of people that provide the entirety of it's content FOR FREE.
Ads are one thing.
Using my work to promo your site and get said ad contracts, that's fine too, because the platorm is free and it needs a way to generate revenue.
We get that.
But STEALLING OUR WORK AND FEEDING IT TO THE TECH BROS WHO ARE THREATENING MY ABILITY TO JUST EXIST is completely, and unequivocally unacceptable.
It's garbage behaviour of the worst caliber and I'm so damn tired with how stupid it all is.
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@staff
OUR CONTENT SHOULD BE OPTED OUT OF AI TRAINING BY DEFAULT!
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dordey · 3 months ago
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girl i am by no means a tswift stan but like........when you spend your free time compiling a post about her Years worth of having bangs or wearing clothes back to front, just to complain about it??? sounds kind of like you Are
#as a fundie ''''snarker'''' i have little room to talk#but as i've discussed prev i don't align myself w that facet of snark communities#like i understand being so annoyed w someone that even the small shit gets under your skin#hence why so many comms have bitch eating crackers tags#but also like. there are So many things to discuss irt How the actions of these people hurt others#instead of just making dozens of posts about why someone's outfit sucks or why you think they're ugly oh my god#like???? i'm sincerely So sorry you have to resort to that bc you don't fully understand Why these people are hated so much#on an ethical / moral level#but also like? you have internet access & free time to do This comma surely it isn't Too Much to do some wide reading#& gain some media literacy & critical thinking skills#& not to continue this tangent but omg the Same Vein as people who would rather post in a comment section or make a Whole New Post#about a topic or video or picture they see & just Wait for someone to explain it to them#rather than idk putting it into a search engine??#which would be quicker??? & make you idk think for yourself???#& ik ai is making it harder to get accurate answers but!! alternative options are out there!!!!#& also again like. it Really feels like these people should not be old enough to be on these parts of the internet#idk like they haven't yet learnt primary / elementary level comprehension skills#ie look at this picture. what do you see in it and why do you think it's there#or read this passage. what is this specific part telling you that supports the message of the whole piece of writing#etc#just completely do Not have any curiosity or initiative or thirst for information even when it helps them better understand the world ugh
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gorebonk · 3 months ago
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Icl guys ai role play just sucks ass if you want to genuinely have characters interact with you write, I don't care if you write badly it ill be infinitely more rewarding and you will have so much more (infinite) control over what you want to happen
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nshtn · 5 months ago
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fantasy LLM idea for GPT based conversational robots: An additional tiny algorithm sitting after the user's input is received and weights applied which serves to do an initial pass on how many subjects are in the input. Another uses these to derive the topic. Then, a third algorithm uses this information to retroactively (of the initial weights) dock weight off additional unnecessary tokens that may not necessarily apply to the topic and could bias the LLM's answer.
How would we find out how many subject words are relevant to the topic? We would run a check for each word's position in the initial weights relative to the topic - how far from the topic it drifts in relevancy can be measured by the distance between itself and the topic. "White hair" and "Programming" don't need to be given equal attention, but maybe "CSS" and "Programming" do.
For example, a vast memory of tidbits of info can cause a conversational GPT to lose its' topic coherency. If it knows a lot of random facts about you which are being context shifted constantly, it is taking all of these facts, regardless of how useless or useful they may be, and running expensive matrix math on them to incorporate them into its' reply, detracting from your subjects and topic. This fantasy algorithm would ameliorate this.
Just something I was thinking about for robot worldbuilding for my sci-fi GPT-based character VIC-II and ESSEX, like how they would avoid saying really oddly contextually irrelevant things even if they had a lot of knowledge about a person.
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cadams-art · 9 months ago
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The big thing is, as soon as it went live, it ALL got scraped.
All of it.
By the time any of us knew, it was already too late - THAT'S the big thing that's pissing me off with choosing "Opt OUT" instead of "Opt IN" models.
It's the same as someone stealing the painting you hung up on your living room wall, and defending it by saying "Well, you didn't TELL me I couldn't."
And when they're told they can't do that (opt out), they say "Ok, I guess I won't do it again."
You don't get your painting back, or the money they got when they sold it to be made into a shitty collage.
All you do is lose.
AND
The opt out ISN'T REALLY AN OPT OUT.
It's come out that all that little switch does is tell the tech maggots we don't want them to harvest it.
IT'S STILL UP TO THEIR DISCRETION, WHETHER TO LISTEN OR NOT.
So the jackass will come back into your living room and take the rest of your work anyway!
It's blatant theft, disregard for their users in general and especially for people like me, who are creatives making and sharing our work and Just Trying To Make A Bare Living with our craft and really, REALLY stupid business practice.
The logic - if there is any - completely evades me, and I'm just angry all the time now.
Fuck "AI"
Fuck tech maggots
Just Fuck.
Imma go paint now 😤💀
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