#Cybertronian religion

[transformers-the-hunted]

Cbertronian religion

Across the meny cultures of the cybertronias, there are meny different religious beliefs, but one thing that remains consistant it the worship of the Great Three.

Triplet gods above all others:

PRIMUS:

God of creation / the past (one's birth is always in the past) Worshiped as a main god, by inventers, artists and Emergence assistents. If you want something new you pray to primus.

The prophet of primus is Optimus prime

GEAE:

God of existence / the now (you always live in the now) Worshipped by few in current times, When you want things to stay the same you pray to GEAE

The prophet of Geae is the Mistress of Flame

UNICRON:

God of destruction /death / the future (ones own death is always in ones future) Worshiped by warrirors and the impoverished, he has become very popular in mordern times. When you want something to end you pray to UNICRON

The prophe of UNICRON is Galvatron

Together they re the divine trio never one without the others

[archives-of-iacon]

[IN PROGRESS: Archival Entry #0148-A]

“The Enigma of the Matrix: A Historical and Functional Analysis”

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I. Origins and Mythological Context

Section I.A – The Primordial Flame and the First Wielder → Please note: This is a DRAFT excerpt under open review. Annotations and contributions welcome.

���We are all but fragments of the Matrix, which releases each of us in order to struggle, and grow, and evolve—so when we return to it, it may grow and evolve. Thus do we serve the Matrix, not just by battling, but also by acquiring knowledge, wisdom, and experiencing love.” — Attribution disputed (see full commentary below)

This section seeks to unravel the dual nature of the Matrix of Leadership, examining its origins and evolution through both mythic and early historical accounts. Drawing upon the Chronicles of the Thirteen, surviving oral traditions, and Alpha Trion’s increasingly symbolic interpretations of accepted dogma, we find that a comprehensive definition of the Matrix must acknowledge its role as both relic and revelation—an artifact forged in a cosmic trauma and wielded as a tool of order in a fractured age.

According to the dominant mytho-cycle, the Matrix emerged in the wake of the Theomachy—the apocalyptic conflict between Primus himself and Unicron. As the myth goes, the Matrix was a byproduct of Primus’ fragmentation, an echo of his will, of creation manifest, cast into physical form. However, scholarly consensus on this origin remains unstable. Some theories posit that the artifact was constructed by the Thirteen themselves as a vessel to contain collective wisdom. [edit this – cite Targon’s 7814 lecture series]

While the “construct” hypothesis has largely fallen out of favor in academic circles, it nevertheless contributed greatly to initial inquiry into early Matrix function. For example, inscriptions once interpreted as exclusive rites of passage have, in pursuit of evidencing the construct theory, been re-translated as collaborative records, suggesting the Matrix may not have been a singularly held relic in its earliest uses [rephrase – unclear]. Where once Zeta Prime was assumed to be its inaugural bearer, recent Golden Age tablet reconstructions hint at shared stewardship among multiple Primes, perhaps in rotation or strategic deployment. [citation needed]

A key philosophical excerpt, widely taught in Ethics of Leadership modules across multiple colonies, has long shaped interpretations of the Matrix’s purpose:

“We are all but fragments of the Matrix…”

Note on attribution: This quote is commonly ascribed to Optimus Primal, who uttered it during the First Maximal Convocation on New Cybertron following the events of the Reformatting. However, a long-standing debate contends that Primal was drawing from older oral traditions, with some tracing similar phrasing to lost sermons of Nexus Prime or even fragmentary verses from the Aurex Codex. Critics of this re-attribution argue that denying Primal ownership of the phrase reflects a broader scholarly bias against Maximal sources, often dismissed in “core-world” academic institutions. The Archives remain neutral on the matter until consensus is reached, but include the quote here due to its last significance in the popular understanding of the Matrix.

— The Archives Administration Post-finalization cleared by Elixion, Acting Head Archivist, in compliance with the recently instituted "draft" protocols

[murderhornetss]

SPECTRALISM — Fictoreligion (link)

Disclaimer ; This is NOT a fult (faux cult) or anything similar to that . Fultists DNI !!

Spectralism is a religion from the Transformers comic series "More Than Meets The Eye." It is a Cybertronian religious movement that places a great importance on colors and their meanings. You may practice it in any way that feels natural for you , or in any way that resonates with how you feel about it .

You can have any beliefs about certain colors with this !! Below , I am simply providing information in case you wish to begin practicing Spectralism with the information presented in the comics !!

The only official information truly known about Spectralist beliefs ;

The color magenta displays discomfort and awkwardness .

The combination of blue and purple can either signify mourning a death or a loss , and/or determination for revenge ; especially if the target of your revenge took the life of one you are mourning .

@ficto-religious-archive

[dinosaur-grrr]

does anyone have their own takes or ideas on different/original cybertronian religions? i want one of my fics to focus on cybertronian culture and religion and would love to talk about it!

feel free to dm me- even if you don't have ideas but still want to talk about it :))

[wilfre-the-medical-bot]

7?

(He is unsure about his religion at this point. He used to believe in Primus, but over time, as he started his training to become a medic, he thought less and less about religion. He hasn't really thought about it since.)

[awkwardgirlfriends]

/chanting/ Humanformers Dratchet! 📣 Humanformers Dratchet! 📣 Humanformers Dratchet! 📣 I HAVE THE NEED TO DRAW A PRETTY MAN I TELL YA!!

[tulliolamonster]

What are some good resources for Cybertron’s history and religion? I’m particularly interested in the creation myth, the 13 Primes, and the role of Unicron.

If someone has put together a semi-comprehensive list of Cybertronian mythos, that would be great. If not, I might try my hand at it

[pyrotechnicdarts]

i still love this btw. the fact that cybertronians have only recently found out that they can in fact die of old age. they spent 4 million years at war and then when it finally ends and everyone is eager to spend the rest of eternity in peace they find out that their species is not actually immortal and the only reason they didnt know it before is because their species hadnt even existed long enough for anyone to die of old age. especially with how it ties into the later-revealed-to-be-false belief that mortilus was the one who turned against the other gods

[mrnnki]

I accidentally cannibalize my original fic for fanfic ideas constantly and it's always embarrassing to notice. why are my Cybertronians just my space cats but with external armor and robot parts

[questionnotbrilliant]

The Eternal is my fucking favorite version, when I first read the story I just loved it .

I have three versions of Primus that I write with. Those being:

The Good - An all knowing and ever patient god. He may not always know how to connect with his children, but he has a plan for each of them and he does his best to ensure that his creations are guided into a better tomorrow. He may be cryptic, but he is kind and genuinely tries his best to help in his dormant state. He will even go so far as to harm himself for the benefit of his children if that is what is required.

Applicable fic example: The Many Lives of Optimus Prime

The Eternal - An incomprehensible god who is so above that which he has created that he has no understanding of his children or their pains. He does what he believes is best, but often his plans extend far past any one individual to the point of creating more suffering in the short term. He comes across as cruel or heartless, but he loves far deeper than any mortal could comprehend. He is emotion. He Is All. And he absolutely favors some of his creations over others, to the point of suffocation at times (ie: the line of Primes).

Applicable fic example: Forbidden Sight

The Jealous - An orderly god who has a design and will go to any lengths to see it met. He came into being and threw everything he did not see value in aside in favor of his vision of all creation. He is neither good nor evil, he simply is. He does not love in the traditional sense, but he does claim possession over all he sees as his and is not fond of others touching his toys. His chosen champions exist only to serve as protectors over his domain. He holds no love for them. He chooses them based on necessity.

Applicable fic example: The Grim Dark Archives

I love noticing trends in my own writing and noting them.

[deargodwtf]

I remember now! Ok, so a thing I wanted to explore in my fan continuity is the quintessons backstory from g1. With the thirteen primes background as what cybertron believes to be their origin.

I wanna see the characters grapple with their origins. How do they cope after learning god is just a computer made for profit.Is life meaningless just because you weren't made for a higher purpose.

[bendigedigbetobetosan]

Thinking about how Shintoism has some similar concepts to Cybertronian… well… can I even call it a religion if it’s just canon in Prime.

[jinuaei]

Yandere Tarn x human Reader

Warning: OOC! NOT COMIC ACCURATE I ONLY KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE LORE ALSO IGNORE THE TIME DIFF I KNOW ITS LIKE MILLIONS OF YEARS BETWEEN PRE WAR AND POST WAR. Spoilers for Tarn lore?

Imagine being Tarn’s first ever human he has met when he was still Damus, you being a cute human Liaison that follows around Senator Shockwave who also brings you around the Academy. You are an adorable, curious little thing, always so eager to see the different bots’ outlier abilities and wanting to know how it works, and Damus’ ability was the one that caught your eye. And he too is smitten with you from the very first time he laid optics on you, but he respects the Senator so much that he tends to shy away from actively seeking you out. 

However, you don’t seem to fear the large bots that could squish you with one of their pedes considering you’ve been persistently seeking him out even when he tries to hide away from you. In the end, he could not escape the temptation that is you.How could he? When you are so persistent in getting to know him, even to the point where you would sneak off to find him —He feels honoured whenever you do so, so special that you chose him out of all the students to befriend— He cannot do much to entertain you, but you seem to enjoy seeing him use his abilities to annoy bots by shutting their stuff off, mostly datapads and what not.

Both of you enjoy each other's company so much, sharing stories and knowledge. He finds himself especially invested in human arts, mainly music, it’s much different than Cybertronian music, it’s softer, less robotic, more organic, it’s so…you. He likes to hear you sing, even when you are humble with your abilities, he thinks of it as perfect. He cannot help but adore music that comes out from your mouth. Ah yes, your mouth, your language’s equivalent to the word ‘intake’. He remembers you saying something about kisses and how humans do it to show affection, but Cybertonians never had something similar to that so he does not pay mind to it. But he cannot deny how much he wants you to do it to him, especially when you mentioned something about it can be ‘intimate’ at times.

His days are always bright whenever you come to visit, your small body tucked close to the Senators frame, so talkative and friendly. He also notices the matching colours of your drapes with that of Shockwaves colour of the week, he observes that he enjoys seeing you in purple more than that of any other colour. Gifts seem to be common for you, as you seem to give him lots of small trinkets, but his favourite is a purple scarf that you gave him after he expressed how much he likes that colour on you.

Somehow, you managed to put in a good word about yours and Damus’ excursions considering Senator Shockwave has approached him himself to entrust your safety to the student whenever he is too busy to show you around. And of course, Damus has taken that role seriously, so seriously in fact that the other students you are also close with seem to avoid you all together whenever he is there. Always watching, always looming over your small form.

But then Senator Shockwave got caught, forced to undergo through Empurata and Shadowplay, and he did not find you ever since. He did not find comfort from your presence when he woke up after being subjected to the same fate as his teacher, stripped from his identity as Damus, now Glitch. But even his faceplate has been replaced, forced to be faceless, to be a nobody, his processor still kept the memories of the only person that knows him, the true him, him as Damus and not Glitch. You…You, you, YOU. His dearest human.

He remembers a conversation about your world's religion, about how many there are that exist on your planet, and how anybody can create a religion by just believing in it. And he does, in you. Creating a religion where you are his god and he is your most devoted follower – a religion where only he is to worship you.

Perhaps if he prayed enough, devoted himself enough to you, you will return, just like how yours has 3 days after his death. But you never did. Still, he prays to you daily, even when under Optimus’ care he did not forget to call for you, and while he uses his spare time to read Megatron's manifesto, he always makes sure to pray to you every day, every hour, every minute, that he has.

He even made a small shrine for you that he carries around on his frame via a small box. Inside are everything that you have ever given him, especially the scarf, and a picture of you both that you took with your Instant camera. He keeps that locked tight, like it’s his most valuable treasure — which as a bot who has close to nothing, is.

That habit of praying to you has persisted even when he adapted the persona of Tarn, even after he has stayed with Decepticons, he does not forget to pray to you every chance he gets. The items that he so carefully took care of are slowly degrading, piece by piece, thread by thread, all the cherished objects are turning into dust. Time does not spare anything from its cruel grasp, the picture that showcased you and him as Damus is slowly fading, his claws scraping off its print bit by bit. He fears that he will destroy the remaining memories of you, just like how he destroys every mech that he encounters. So after the scarf has turned into scraps, your face scraped off, he finally kept that box containing everything that you are close to his spark where it would stay until his end.

However, there is one thing that he cannot destroy no matter how much he has desecrated it, using it during his hunts to please him and his comrades. Music. His love of music is also a show of his devotion towards you, to say that yes, he remembers your music and your voice. And at times, when he is especially in a good mood, he would sing the same songs that he learnt from you to one of his victims. Though he would become aggressive right after the last note – realizing that they do not deserve to hear your song. In that case, he does not talk to them to death, instead he would pummel them into scraps, spilling energon all over him.

Millions of years have passed and his devotion only grew stronger, and oh how his prayers have finally been answered! You have returned! Though it was not 3 days but millions of years, he still rejoices as you are now back! His god! His beloved! And now he does not have to stay loyal to the Decepticons as you are now back with him! But the only problem is… he can see you on the other side of the battlefield, with the Lost Light, with Rodimus, with him– Megatron.

And now he realizes why Megatron has betrayed the Decepticon cause, perhaps like him, he has found his true purpose on the side of the good. But Tarn can never be good, he has done so much in the name of the Decepticons, in the name of righteousness, in your name. 

Even so, he can repent, renounce his identity as a Decepticon and come crawling back to you if you so wish. He can start his redemption by killing all of the DJD members right in front of you, or maybe you would want him stripped off of his armour, being laid bare for everyone to see.  Whatever you want, he will do it.

So he crosses the field with new found focus, optics trained on you. He ignores all of the weapons trained on him and keeps his pedes from shaking in nervousness. The more neurotic bots shoot at him, but he did not raise his blaster to shoot back nor did he try to defend himself. He only had one goal, and it was to get to you.

Once he finds himself in front of you, being guarded by Megatron and Rodimus, he kneels, unable to hold himself above you, his chassis lowered until his helm presses against the rough terrain. Energon pooled under him from the wounds he sustained.

When he utters your name, you seem perplexed, as if surprised at how this large bot knows you. And he spills everything, about who he is now, his prayers, his shrine, his millions of years of devotion. As he looks up at you from the floor, your face twists into confusion, baffled at this obsessed mech that you have never met in your human life.

Perhaps it was years of not seeing each other, but you looked…different somehow, still similar to his memories of you, but oddly different, it's small, but noticeable to him who has been so devoted to you and made sure to memorize every single part of your face. Nonetheless he did not care what so ever, what matters is he can finally serve you again, he might not be your Damus anymore, but he can be your Tarn.

The mask that he has worn for so long slipped off from his faceplate, and he drops it unceremoniously right next to him. He does not care if the bots think of him as an embarrassment or weak, all he knows is that you need to know about how much he adores you.

His faceplate lowers towards your pedes– feet, as you have taught him ages ago, and kisses it, just as you told him how one would do it, again and again until you can feel his love for you, his longing, his adoration, and his years and years of worship.

Until he repents, until you accept him back into your life. Until all that he has, and all that he is, is finally yours.

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Uhhh uhhh I don't know if this is coherent.

[lord-squiggletits]

After I write that new IDW Optimus meta, the next one is gonna be a post of "why I really hate that theory about Rodimus being a better Prime than Optimus and how it doesn't even match the themes of IDW OR canon fact about how the Matrix functions."

But the TLDR that I feel like encapsulates where a lot of this fanwank comes from, is that I feel like ppl don't properly appreciate that the context of Optimus and Rodimus' leaderships are extremely different.

Like, Rodimus only led a ship of about 200+ people. This means that the scale of his leadership responsibilities and the risks/consequences/stakes of his actions as leader were much smaller in scale. However, it also means that just because he only led one ship of people doesn't mean that his choices weren't important/weren't indicative of his personal character (that is to say, just bc it was only one ship doesn't mean that it had no meaning or significance at all).

On the other hand, Optimus led an entire freaking army over a 4 million year war that arose from political tensions that began even before he/most of the people in the war were born. That means that the consequences of his leadership had extremely far reaching consequences no matter what he did, which grants him a large degree of culpability/blame for his actions. HOWEVER, it must also be said that under the pressure of fighting an impossible war, just because OP wasn't able to "stop it sooner" doesn't mean that he was a morally bad/incompetent leader, because a whole galactic war is such a huge burden that one person can't possibly stop it or influence/control everything to make the most morally correct and peace-causing decisions.

TLDR can we please stop pitting Optimus and Rodimus against each other when the contexts of them being leaders was so vastly different (and they had such different leadership styles in general) that you can't really say "who's the better leader" without minimizing either of their accomplishments/magnifying their respective flaws.

Also, canonically speaking the Matrix can be wielded by anyone who's confident/at peace/self-righteous enough to believe they're worthy of it, which was shown not only by the ending of LL where a bunch of regular ass crewmates were able to use copies of the Matrix, but by the fact that the first Prime/ruler of Cybertron Nova Prime was a massive piece of shit who colonized people, yet was still a Matrix bearer who wielded the true/original Matrix.

And also Primus is literally Just Some Guy and not some omnipotent god who's an objective arbiter of morality that can point at a guy and go "YOU are the Specialest Boy Ever and are Divinely Mandated To Be A Good person"

So the entire premise of why ppl even make theories and debate about this is beyond me lol. In IDW1 the Matrix is more of a social/cultural symbol than it is an actual measurer of morality, which is in line with IDW1's consistent themes of challenging the inherent rightness of authority

[raileurta]

In this universe humanity are very much Unicron’s spawn. Having grown and fed on his own spark energy this had altered humans in many strange ways.

One such way was the absolutely damaging psychological effect cybertronians would experience when looking at human faces. It's so bad that lesser bots have gone insane from just a glance. Lucky for them they quickly made a program that would automatically blur out any human faces immediately. The technology however would cause major strain on cybertronians if run too long. So any human allies that intend to stick around would start wearing masks.

Also humans aren't aware of Unicron himself but do worship his “energy” in a sense. Not all humans but around 45% of them. Any religions worship various figures of Unicron but just in different ways.

[violetaquadelight]

What if Sunstorm knew Rung is the literal embodiment of Primus himself? What if the electromagnetic pulse that caused Rung to be such a forgettable character failed? Imagine if somewhere out there in the vast bubble of alternative universes, there is one where a religion is founded under the idea that Primus himself walks among Cybertronians led by Sunstorm?

Imagine the Lost light crew stumbling upon this universe and 'someone' being the menace they are, said something worth getting themself arrested and executed for.

To avoid confusions characters with "-LL" in their name means they are not native in that Universe.