#Custom Tailored Gotham Revamp

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Custom Tailored Gotham Revamp Season 3: IVY PEPPER 

There is much less to complain about than I expected with Ivy Pepper.  I do still very much miss Young!Ivy, she was an always unique, sometimes hostile, mostly unapologetic gem of a character in a gorgeous oversize sweater and with a compelling aversion to hair brushes. Why would you let that go .. ? There have been various legitimate complaints about aging her up, but okay let´s move past this and work with what we have. 

How I would have preferred things:  1. Ditch the old wealthy men! Just skip everything that happened between her murdering the guy that did not take care of his plants well enough and saving Oswald Cobblepot. The only nice scene was her little banter with Selina Kyle but even that scene did much less for their relationship than Ivy saving half dead Selina.  Thinking of how Ivy was shown listening in the background when Barbara Kean explained to an uninterested Selina Kyle how to use your beauty as weapon I can see how Ivy´s whole style of clothing and her make up could change. That´s fine but putting a child in those kind of menjustgivemestuff situations is still icky. Especially if there is so much more her character could be about!  (She was “collateral damage” connected to the Wayne Murder yet this never played any role nor do we know more than just a few hints about her family situation and how she is dealing with all this.) 

2. More plant science & growth magic explanation!   You just can not add something awesome and weighty as an “Everyone Does As I Say” Perfume and offer no explanation whatsoever. That´s mean!  Instead of Ivy seducing men I would like to see her working on that perfume!  This is also connected to me having so much open questions about her and her sudden growth. Obviously her body aged which probably means that her brain developed from that of a child to that of an adult as well. Maybe this “unlocked” some mental capacity that could explain her skills: We know that she was highly skilled with plants before that but there was no hints that this would go so far as the development of such a perfume. I have to assume that she only combined her plant knowledge with knowledge about human biology after her growth and I´m refusing to believe that this just happend like “poof” in some kind of heureka moment. Which means there was potential wasted for a lot of pretty awesome scenes. Not only would she have to make the perfume she would have to develop it first. Where did she get the plants? Is it just ordinary local ones, or special ones she had to steal from somewhere? Or is the secret something more sinister (x) ? Just imagine her experimenting with them and doing it in a very careful and kind way! Still assuming this just did not happen at once there must have been tests. Whom did she try the early versions on? Where there some unwanted, maybe funny side effects?  Just let me see Ivy experimenting and talking with her plant friends! 

One thing the sudden growth robbed her from was not only her youth but plenty of experience that growing up brings, that´s something she lacks.  But it obviously changed her character, at least it seems so to me.  Young!Ivy was not a very trusting person. ( It even took some convincing before she took Selina´s help when she was sick and she knew her and considered her a friend, or maybe that´s her not wanting to cause troubles?)   nor a cheery one or one that socialized much. (Selina admits that Ivy creeps her out sometimes. There is the prank call she makes in Barbara´s place but even with her she seems to keep in the background.)    Yet she is all that after her growth. Especially with Oswald Cobblepot, despite him being ungrateful and grumpy at first. I want to know what she saw in him that she instantly adopted him as friend.  Somewhat of a constant is her helpfulness. She is despite some troubles before ready to help Selina and even Penguin without hesitation. They have shown Young!Ivy taking care of Bridgit´s pigeons and she did not hesitate to help Selina and Bruce with her mushrooms. Yet there were other situation where she showed a more “selfish” exterior when Harvey Bullock questioned her or Alfred and Bruce had to pay her for information. Could the perfume granting her access to things like even expensive jewelry have enabled her to drop that?  That being said I do think that Ivy´s ability to distinguish very clearly between the effects of her perfume and peoples real thoughts and actions is rather mature. She could have just ordered Oswald to be nice to her, instead she points out that Oswald´s behavior is wrong and demands to be treated better. She does not want a puppet, not another guy she can just take things from, she is indeed looking for genuine friendship and asking for it.  I do very much prefer that to the quite naive behavior of the earlier episodes. The first glimpse we got on grown Ivy was a rather childlike naive enthusiasm about getting stuff and things, this is quite different. This kinda makes me wonder and worry if this has been a gradual revelation or if something happened. 

// Custom Tailored Gotham Revamp 1/?//

[AfterRewatchEdit] Because wow I apparently was so pissed about the plot that I did not notice Jeremy Crutchley played that bedroomyesvaultno guy  Ivy says she made the perfume from a strain of cananga odorata. (3x9 The Executioner)  And for the record the plant she revived Selina with is  Nepeta Cataria. “Or, rather, a very specialized strain of a plant that I've been cultivating.” (3x18 Light the Wick) aka Catnip 

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Custom Tailored Gotham Revamp Season 3: LESLIE THOMPKINS

I am still partly confused about everything that was going on with Leslie Thompkins that lead her to take the Virus but that´s not what this is going to be about. 

How I would have preferred things:  1. Ditch the Virus! Ditch Evil!Lee & make her part of the (questionable) Crime Fighting Squad!  Lee´s character seemed to have been and is still always circling around Jim Gordon, even when it´s about her marrying another love. I´m just gonna accept that for a second and not remove her from that narrative completely. But I´ll snatch the Virus out of her hands. Ha!  You know, I´m as much a sucker for parallels as everyone else and they have had some quite nice ones to Barbara Kean in that episode:  (Lee repeatedly calling Jim and try to talk him into giving in to the Virus and her mirrors when Barbara called Jim out of Arkham / Lee leaving Jim and only leaving a message behind mirrors the message Barbara left behind before the whole Ogre mess happened .. Which makes it a shame that Lee searching confrontation with Barbara in that episode never lead to anything, was she there for revenge, because of rivalry? Why was she so inconsistent about it, killing some time could be more pleasant, why even bother to go there when she does not care so enough about it that she´d follow this murder plan later, but yeah I guess we just can´t have Lee murdering someone, that´s Jim´s business, with him that´s fine in the end..)   Buuuuuut do we really need another “Girlfriend gone bad” ? Do we? I mean someone might but I don´t.  Do we need a Virus!Lee in general? Look, I do love the eyeliner but I have confidence that she would manage to apply that without virus as well.  I´ll again skip the question of if this makes sense for her character and just focus on the impact to the whole story. At the end Lee´s message just backs up JIM GORDON and what he has been doing all the time. Her accusations seem forgotten. Lee´s message is reassuring Jim in his identity and mission. “I don’t know if Gotham deserves saving, but I do know one thing. If anyone can save it it’s you.  And in return, I believe it can save you as well. And then maybe one day, it will send you back to me. Until then, love always Lee.” Moreover she is not only telling Jim that he has been right all along she is also binding him to the city and his mission. When she left Gotham the last time it sent Jim Gordon into a crisis whether to stay in Gotham and investigate the Wayne Murder, “do good” for the city in general or if he should look for Lee and try to find some personal happiness. This is different now. Jim staying in Gotham still comes with the possibility for love later, this crisis has been taken from him.  Could we have that impact in any another way?  Yes we could!  I get that Lee was in an highly emotional place and an extreme reaction like taking the Virus might seem appropriate but what I saw was an intelligent woman trying to make sense of her situation.  > Her repeatedly going to Arkham and looking for answers is a thoughtful kind of behavior that I though would not lead to such an extreme reaction.  Lee´s doubts about Jim are in plenty of ways justified but they could have been lessened by everything she learned in her research. Barnes showed her that there was little hope for Mario (granted it also showed her that Barnes had the same condition and survived the encounter with Jim). The knife Mario had was shown to be lost in the water but there might have been other ways to investigate and backup Jim´s version of what happened.  > This is a bit of a personal pet peeve but I do think that her visiting Jervis should have lead to another result. Hearing him claim that she is to blame for his actions is something she should have called bullshit on. Jervis infected Mario there is no one else to blame than Jervis. Instead she could maybe notice and reflect on how she was unconsciously blaming herself all along and how she might have loaded that unto Jim and thus dealing with that whole issue. > Apart from that emotional baggage another issue was how everyone behaved towards Lee which just feed her doubts about Jim. Her having undeniable evidence about a possible crime connected to Frank Gordon´s death and everyone just swiping that under the rug is highly suspicious and questionable also maddening dismissive less towards her.  But that´s the point where things change! 

The BoyScoutClub let´s her in!  It´s only logic to do so. Lee had declared that she would investigate which could mean plenty of trouble. Instead of shoving her aside Jim and Harvey avoid that issue with telling her the secret!  [ Okay, Okaay but Jim does not want to put her in danger, right, telling her about the Court would endanger her and it would somewhat proof her accusations against Jim right wouldn´t it?  Yeah okay I could see why Jim would not want to involve her but he also endangered Lucius Fox without hesitating and it would not necessarily have to be Jim who tells her the secret. And after all it´s as much dangerous to let someone run into battle without them knowing what they deal with, also they could and should have had as much trust in Leslie to be able to deal with the situation as they have had with Lucius. Have some respect guys!]  3x18 would have had the perfect moment. When after finding Strange´s laboratory Harvey Bullock ordered Lucius Fox do do research on the Virus and find someone to trust. “Get Lucius the virus compound and the research. See if he can find anyone we can trust to start working on the cure”. That´s not only the moment I thought this was a hint they´ll get Lee involved but also the moment they should have gone to Lee!  Lee could have been a great help on the matter and she could have gotten more insight in what Jim has to deal with! This could further her process of changing her opinion about Jim.  She sees that despite the things going wrong, the liberties Jim grants himself, he means well and he actually often does well.  >>>>> That way we could not only have the same effect of Jim getting reassured in identity & mission we also get another great, daring and clever member for the Law Squad!  (Which, to be honest is terribly lacking a woman.Still! We have had Sarah Essen but she is gone and just a few minor characters that barely were visible. Why not have Lee fill the void?)  Lee already investigated together with Jim, they weren´t a bad team. She would have the abilities to bring all the different departments that are involved in police work together. This could be pretty interesting actually, but no they have her take the virus and apply more eyeliner.

* This of course would not eradicate that certain “darkness” in her and it wouldn´t need to! We have seen her struggling with this when dealing with Jim and his Galavan issues, she knew about Odgen Barker, there was this visible knack for danger and darkness when Lee wanted to start investigating which led them to Jerome, even her behavior when held hostage by Jerome fits this, her threatening Edward Nygma because of Kristen Kringle, just her readiness to marry into the biggest mob family. There is plenty of darkness without the Virus and imho a more interesting kind! They could even add some great parallels between Jim and Leslie on the way ..  * Also I´m leaving open the question if Lee staying in Gotham and taking part in the police work and Jim´s general “saving Gotham” mission would mean they could slowly grow to be a loving couple again because I could see a yes and a no equally happening. 

// Custom Tailored Gotham Revamp 2/?//

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For now I´ll just establish a tag for my Gotham reviews, I got encouraged at the beginning of S2 to write episode reviews and you´ll find the collected posts now under a new tag “My Gotham full episode reviews” mine gotham   mostly my Gotham Gifs gotham almost meta with mine text mine textpost mine art    mine fanfiction   mine personal    mine text ifn watching various things other thoughts, meta and headcanons are still scattered round here

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