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Black Dahlia: Ask Me Anything, January 2025
In the January 2025 Ask Me Anything on the Black Dahlia case, I talk about my work in progress, Heaven Is HERE! and my current focus on the Los Angeles Examiner’s phone call to Phoebe Short, claiming that Elizabeth Short won a beauty contest. Reminder: Trim your roses on January 15 in memory of Elizabeth Short, and consider a donation to an agency that provides services for the homeless/unhoused…
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Cleveland Torso Murderer
The official number of murders attributed to the Cleveland Torso Murderer is twelve, although recent research has shown there could have been as many as twenty or more The twelve known victims were killed between 1935 and 1938. Some investigators, including lead detective Peter Merylo, believed that there may have been thirteen or more victims in the Cleveland, Youngstown and Pittsburgh areas between the 1920s and 1950s. Two strong candidates for addition to the "official" list are the unknown victim nicknamed the "Lady of the Lake," found on September 5, 1934, and Robert Robertson, found on July 22, 1950. The victims of the Torso Murderer were usually drifters whose identities were never determined, although there were a few exceptions. Victims numbers 2, 3 and 8 were identified as Edward Andrassy, Florence Polillo and possibly Rose Wallace, respectively.[6] Andrassy and Polillo were both identified by their fingerprints, while Wallace was tentatively identified via her dental records. The victims appeared to be lower class individuals–easy prey during the Great Depression. Many were known as "working poor", who had nowhere else to live but the ramshackle shanty towns, or "Hoovervilles", in the area known as the Cleveland Flats. The Torso Murderer always beheaded and often dismembered their victims, occasionally severing the victim's torso in half or severing their appendages.[8] In many cases the cause of death was the decapitation or dismemberment itself. Most of the male victims were castrated. Some victims showed evidence of chemical treatment being applied to their bodies, which caused the skin to become red, tough and leathery. Many were found after a considerable period of time following their deaths, occasionally in excess of a year. In an era when forensic science was largely in its infancy, these factors further complicated identification, especially since the heads were often undiscovered. During the time of the "official" murders, Eliot Ness, leader of The Untouchables, was serving as Cleveland's Public Safety Director, a position with authority over the police department and ancillary services, including the fire department. Ness contributed to the arrest and interrogation of one of the prime suspects, Dr. Francis Sweeney, and personally conducted raids into shantytowns and eventually burned them down. Ness's reasoning for doing so was to catalogue fingerprints to easily identify any new victims, and to get possible victims out of the area in an attempt to stop the murders. Four days after the burning, on August 22, 1938, Ness launched an equally draconian operation where he personally dispatched six two-man search teams on a large area of Cleveland, stretching from the Cuyahoga River to East 55th Street to Prospect Avenue, under the guise of conducting city fire inspections. While the search never turned up any new or incriminating information that could lead to the arrest and conviction of the Torso Murderer, it did serve to focus renewed public attention on the inadequate and unsanitary living conditions in the downtown area. Teams uncovered hundreds of families living in hazardous fire traps without toilets or running water. The interests of social reform did ultimately come to light even if those of law enforcement did not. At one point in time, the Torso Murderer taunted Ness by placing the remains of two victims in full view of his office in City Hall. The man who Ness believed to be the killer would later also provoke him by sending postcards.
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Delve into the dark and gruesome history of the Cleveland Torso Murders, a series of brutal slayings that terrorized the city during the 1930s. Uncover the chilling details of the killings, where unidentified victims were dismembered and left in various locations, baffling investigators and haunting the collective memory of Cleveland to this day. The Cleveland Torso Murders: Unsolved Crimes of the 1930s published first on https://www.youtube.com/@bafflingmysteries/
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kat & nancy.
Sometimes the shortened version of his name was all too applicable. Like cats, he seemed to have nine lives. More than nine lives, in fact. There were many times that katsunari nearly died and should have. Each time, he survived. Mostly by himself, sometimes by seeking out someone like nancy. He learned from a young age how to rely only on himself, almost as if his mind subconsciously knew that this was all coming. He had been waiting. When he was a child and couldn’t speak to his mother without them screaming at each other; when his father could barely look at him moving throughout the house like an unwanted roommate; when he was told he was ‘weird’ by other kids at school because he rarely smiled, or expressed any emotion at all. Those were all things he had to endure, all things that he had to tolerate as he waited.
And then it came. The day he had waited for came, and the world began to match what he felt inside. Everyone panicked, katsunari included at first. At college in pittsburgh at the start, he drove home to cleveland near instantaneously, a surprise to his father and himself. It was like it all happened slowly but fast at the same time. Some parts of the world crumbled and some took weeks to finally fall. He still had to wait, weeks before kat left his father and their home goodbye without much of a second thought, before he was able to truly live as he was meant to.
It wasn’t easy. Despite how comfortable he felt as a survivor, it was by no means an uneventful or safe way to live. Especially not on his own. He had waited so long for the end of the world, but he still had to adapt, too. He had to learn to live completely by himself–no help with anything, no one to talk to, no one to survive with. He spent, up until coming across nancy, in almost complete solitude. He had to adapt, and once he did, it was easy to become an animal. To live only on pure instinct. To survive, even if he had to hurt or kill someone else in the process, by his own hand or by circumstance.
Well, it hadn’t been complete solitude. Occasionally he’d come across other survivors, even sticking around for a few days, but he ultimately ended up leaving. He just couldn’t commit himself to constant conversation. To have someone look at him all the time. Even with nancy, he had a hard time keeping eye contact with her. If he hadn’t been a wounded animal, he probably would’ve just avoided her.
But he was a wounded animal. Though he gave his arm to her, he still felt a bit uneasy with her hands on him. Watching as she tore up her shirt, he almost protested that she didn’t need to waste any of her personal items on him. Instead, he grimaced as she maneuvered his arm to place it into a makeshift sling. Kat didn’t like the feeling of it, his arm trapped against his torso. Now he’d be a wounded, cornered animal. He still had his other arm and his legs too, but it made him feel helpless, defenseless. It meant he had to rely on nancy.
Kat nodded though he didn’t want to head into a town. The world had been dead for years, but there was guaranteed someone to be lurking around–infected or otherwise. Occasionally he would come across a firefly compound and, if they didn’t immediately try to shoot him, offered to show him the light. He would tell them to fuck off. Still, with a sprained arm, he had to rely on nancy. That meant following her wherever she wanted to go. Until his arm healed, at least. “Okay. i don’t know how much use we’re going to get out of this place anyway.” katsunari looked around them, frowning slightly. That was another part of being on the road: they had to constantly move. “Are you hungry?” he asked, uncharacteristically caring.
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Maria Artifex
Born in the USSR to Karu and Galina Artifex, she was forced to give up her identity (Natasha) and take the alias of her dead sister Maria. This was because her father - Karu - made a deal with the KGB to keep his criminal organisation running. He achieves this by allowing them to train Maria into an agent. However, when Maria's plan to kill her sister after discovering she was a lesbian backfires, resulting in her death, Natasha is forced to take that mantle. From then on, she is legally known as "Maria Artifex."
Following a few years in the KGB, Nikolai - Maria's brother and strongly opposed to communism - helps her escape through Siberia. Nikolai dies in the process, but Maria manages to escape to the United States where she is a drifter on the streets for many years. That is, until she finds work in a travelling circus that toured the country. She starts off as a mere cleaner/side-performer, but soon begins to get better roles. Eventually, she gets her own performance and goes by the stage name: "Maria the Magnificent."
Now the circus is in Cleveland, Ohio, and there arises a major problem. A woman named Evangeline Stells shows up, who has abilities that are akin to a seer, and a detailed sketch of Maria herself that the woman sketched reveals that. So, Fearing Evangeline might reveal her ethnicity and tarnish her life forever, Maria decides to get rid of her. Maria commits a slue of murders named the 'Cleveland Torso Murders' in order to lure Evangeline - an aspiring investigator - out into the open. However, with her mind a tad skewered due to her hectic past, Maria gets carried away.
She begins to slip into insanity, forgetting why she started in the first place. Then, one day, a woman named Eleven showed up; Maria targeted her next. This would turn out to be a grave mistake as Eleven - also a time traveller from the distant future - had psychic abilities and killed her. Maria's dormant soul would awaken decades later in 1986. Angry and spiteful, Maria would begin to target her time-travelling killer's boyfriend (Mike), alongside his friends.
To put a long story short, she kills a lot of people, including Mike. This would enrage Eleven, but she did nothing for the time being. Meanwhile, a potentially world-ending apocalypse occurs, which forces Maria and several of Mike's friends to be forced together into a survivor group of sorts. They meet several newcomers, the most notable being Heather and Michael Lanthorn. Through those two, Maria would begin to change, not only beginning to walk a path of nonviolence (unless necessary), but also finding a new family after hers was torn apart, partly due to her own hand.
Alongside this, Maria accepted those wrongs, alongside the ones she had commited against Mike's friends, who she managed to win the forgiveness of...most of them, anyway. The group eventually manages to vanquish the evil that began to corrupt their world and the apocalypse ends. Following this, Heather and Maria get married. Now, let's backtrack for a moment and talk about Maria's mother. Galina Artifex is not a mere mortal, but the Goddess of Life and Death.
Her 'wedding gift' to the newly-weds was a daughter who the two of them named Ashley. Jumping back to the present, something sinister is brewing. Eleven's boyfriend Mike had been a ghost for sometime like Maria, but had managed to give himself physical form again. Affectively, he was 'alive.' After seeing what the Afterlife was like, he sought to defy it and find the key to immortality.
Once he had this, he would conquer the world and create a perfect and eternal society so that nobody had to experience the horrors he did. Sounds notable, but the way he went about it was dubious at best. Mike begins to have influence over the young Ashley and begins to skewer her mind. Alongside brainwashing a child, he cripples Mike L, and kills Heather. Before this, however, he needed to get rid of Maria, and he has the perfect plan.
Mike sought out and made a deal with the God of Chaos and got Maria trapped in purgatory for seemingly an eternity. It was a prison in a dark void that spanned infinitely. Here, Maria had plenty of time to reflect on her existence and how she got to where she was. It is here that Maria begins to refer to herself as Natasha again, symbolically leaving her violent life behind and returning to the peaceful one she had before she killed her sister all those years ago. Meanwhile, back in the real world, Mike has completely taken over the state of Indiana and formed a new government called La Sindicato, which includes many powerful individuals such as Eleven.
Ashley is still alive and is living with the wheelchair-bound Mike L. She joins a rebellious group named Artois, and the leader Blue takes her in like a daughter. You see, there is a prophecy that says Ashley is meant to vanquish Mike once and for all, and to do that they must craft a weapon capable of destroying souls in an instant. This is because Mike can not die until his soul is vanquished, but his soul is split into pieces. In his quest for immortality, Mike has killed some of his family and friends and put his soul into them.
This brings them back, effectively making them and himself immortal beings. Using this weapon, a scythe named the Fractal Rejuvenator, they must track down and destroy these people with Mike's soul in them, of which there are five in total. Before embarking on their quest, Blue suggests saving an 'old friend.' Together with Blue and another named Duncan, Ashley calls upon her grandmother Galina, who helps them get into the purgatory Natasha is being held in. Through a series of rituals that force the four of them to atone for any 'sins' in their past, they all manage to escape.
Natasha joins the three on their manhunt and begins to bond with Ashley, and even Blue and Duncan. Although Blue - a prior friend of Mike's - had forgiven her long ago, Duncan had not, but he does eventually come around as he sees how much she has changed and due to how well Natasha treats her daughter Ashley. Natasha noticed how much Ashley seemed to be walking a similar path to her younger self, so spent this 'era' teaching Ashley to become a better person. Through her own personal experience of learning to become a better, this is largely effective and Ashley grows to be a better person much like Natasha now as they prepare to do battle against the final individual with Mike's soul in them: Eleven. It is a hard-fought battle, but they are eventually able to subdue Eleven, but Natasha commands Ashley not to use the Fractal Rejuvenator on her.
Instead, she decides that Eleven deserved to know the full truth, so let's her see her memories by using her psychic abilities. However, this backfires, sending Eleven backwards in time to the 1930's in Cleveland, Ohio. It was here that, blinded by rage, she lashes out and kills Natasha in the past, fueled by hatred for what she did to Mike. However, now she is trapped in the past, unable to go back. She flees.
Back in the present, Natasha, Blue, Duncan and Ashley stare at the place Eleven just was in shock. None of them spoke, too stunned to speak. Then, from behind them, emerges the figure of Eleven, only older and more frail now. She explains how she got stuck and went on to live a happy and content life away from all the chaos, but that she had come to an epiphany. Eleven had come to understand that she could not blame Natasha, nor could she blame herself.
By killing Natasha, Eleven unknowingly caused Natasha to kill Mike, which later caused Eleven to kill Natasha. It was a reparative loop the two of them were stuck in. That's why Eleven chose for forgive Natasha, and so did she. Both were victims of themselves. It was there that, after so long, Natasha had finally fulfilled her business on Earth by forgiving Eleven and leaving her violent ways behind her.
After giving her final goodbyes, Natasha finally passed on hand-in-hand with her enemy, now who she considered to be a friend.
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The Classics: "Torso" by Brian Michael Bendis & Marc Andreyko
And now a rambling and too brief review of "Torso" by Brian Michael Bendis & Marc Andreyko, which is a retelling of the true story of the Cleveland Torso Killings of the 1930's.
Check out this episode!
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sometimes the shortened version of his name was all too applicable. like cats, he seemed to have nine lives. more than nine lives, in fact. there were many times that katsunari nearly died and should have. each time, he survived. mostly by himself, sometimes by seeking out someone like nancy. he learned from a young age how to rely only on himself, almost as if his mind subconsciously knew that this was all coming. he had been waiting. when he was a child and couldn’t speak to his mother without them screaming at each other; when his father could barely look at him moving throughout the house like an unwanted roommate; when he was told he was ‘weird’ by other kids at school because he rarely smiled, or expressed any emotion at all. those were all things he had to endure, all things that he had to tolerate as he waited.
and then it came. the day he had waited for came, and the world began to match what he felt inside. everyone panicked, katsunari included at first. at college in pittsburgh at the start, he drove home to cleveland near instantaneously, a surprise to his father and himself. it was like it all happened slowly but fast at the same time. some parts of the world crumbled like paper in rain and some took weeks to finally fall. he still had to wait, weeks before kat left his father and their home goodbye without much of a second thought, before he was able to truly live as he was meant to.
it wasn’t easy. despite how comfortable he felt as a survivor, it was by no means a peaceful or safe way to live. especially not on his own. he had waited so long for the end of the world, but he still had to adapt, too. he had to learn to live completely by himself—no help with anything, no one to talk to, no one to survive with. he spent most of the apocalypse, up until coming across nancy, in almost complete solitude. he had to adapt, and once he did, it was easy to become an animal. to live only on pure instinct. to survive, even if he had to hurt or kill someone else in the process, by his own hand or by circumstance.
well, it hadn’t been complete solitude. occasionally he’d come across other survivors, even sticking around for a few days, but he ultimately ended up leaving. he just couldn’t commit himself to constant conversation. to have someone look at him all the time. even with nancy, he had a hard time keeping eye contact with her. if he hadn’t been a wounded animal, he probably would’ve just avoided her.
but he was a wounded animal. though he gave his arm to her, he still felt a bit uneasy with her hands on him. watching as she tore up her shirt, he almost protested that she didn’t need to waste any of her personal items on him. instead, he grimaced as she maneuvered his arm to place it into a makeshift sling. kat didn’t like the feeling of it, his arm trapped against his torso. now he’d be a wounded, cornered animal. he still had his other arm and his legs too, but it made him feel helpless, defenseless. it meant he had to rely on nancy.
kat nodded though he didn’t want to head into a town. the world had been dead for years, but there was guaranteed someone to be lurking around—infected or otherwise. occasionally he would come across a firefly compound and, if they didn’t immediately try to shoot him, offered to show him the light. he would tell them to fuck off. still, with a sprained arm, he had to rely on nancy. that meant following her wherever she wanted to go. until his arm healed, at least. “okay. i don’t know how much more use we’re going to get out of this place anyway.” katsunari looked around them, frowning slightly. that was another part of being on the road: they had to constantly move. “are you hungry?” he asked, uncharacteristically caring.
I'll live.
Words famously spoken by her brothers overseas back when they all comprised the Reaper Squad. Nancy had to bypass every one of their steel gates to do her job, even though she thought she'd already done that some the first meal they shared before going on their first mission. Call medic, and I'll be there. And they all agreed they would, but she knew better. For Eli and Soap and Ford and Beckett and them it was almost definitely a bravado thing; almost because she didn't have hard evidence by way of them saying so. However, it wasn't the kind of thing you needed to say. They thought they were too tough, too macho to ask for help.
With Kat, she didn't get the sense that it was a male pride thing. As she shifted over slightly to examine his injury, she chocked it up to the idea that he'd gone through something similar before and had, in fact, lived.
From what she'd learned about him, he spent a lot of this world-end solo. And so he was used to having injuries undealt with, leaving them to fate and what it might do for his life. Like a cat with nine lives he seemed to end up just fine. Surface level, at least. Maybe because she'd been through something like this before, not exactly with the Cordyceps taking over and turning people into creatures, but something like this, her pride hung low. She knew what got her and the Reaper Squad back home alive was leaning on each other.
And now, most likely, they were dead. Dead to this world-end, not bullets or a grenade or a crash or something like that. But this.
She had an extra shirt in her bag made of somewhat stretchy material with enough give that it could work as a sling. She took a knife to it and then ripped it into a long, thick strip. Then she tied it around Kat's shoulder and arm in a diagonal. "It looks like a sprain, so you'll need some sort of splint for it," she said. "But this'll at least keep it elevated while we look around for something proper. I think I saw a sign for a town up ahead. We can pass through in the morning and see if there's a pharmacy."
#mutatedangels#* KATSUNARI FUKAZAWA / narrative .#* KATSUNARI FUKAZAWA / thread / nancy .#i am always happy to be in your notifs and to have you mine!!!!#i wrote more than i actually meant to lol#and yes i did basically plagiarize by also talking abt how he's a cat with nine lives but like... i'm just stressing my point okay!!#he's sneaky and crafty! meow!#queue are my queen rebecca!
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The Cleveland Torso Murderer
October 29, 2021
The Cleveland Torso Murderer, also known as the Mad Butcher of Kingsbury Run was a serial killer active in Cleveland, Ohio in the 1930′s. The killer remains unidentified to this day. The total number of victims is counted at 12, though many believe it could have been up to 20.
The victims that we know of were killed between 1935 and 1938, which is an extremely short amount of time for a murderer to have killed that many people. A Cleveland detective named Peter Merylo believes that this mad man had more victims, and that the killing spree could of lasted from the 1920′s to the 1950′s.
There were also two victims found that it was unknown if the Cleveland Torso murderer had actually killed them, though many believe he did. One victim was never identified and she was known as “The Lady of the Lake” found on September 5, 1934, and the second victim was an identified man named Robert Robertson, found on July 22, 1950.
Many of the victims were unknown people who were never identified, perhaps drifters who were just temporarily living in Cleveland or stopping by for matters. There were only 2 victims who were actually identified, victim number 2 was identified as Edward Andrassy and victim number 3 was identified as Florence Polilo. Victim number 8 was believed to be Rose Wallace though this was never officially confirmed.
The dental work of the victim number 8 closely matched Rose’s dental work as well as her own son believed it was her. It was never officially confirmed due to the dentist dying years before. The victim was estimated to be dead for a year, while Rose Wallace had only been missing for 10 months, leaving lots of doubt in people’s minds.
The victims were mostly lower class individuals, which would of been easy targets during the Great Depression. Many lived in poorer areas of town or what was known as the Cleveland Flats.
The Cleveland Torso Murderer was nicknamed this as he always beheaded his victims and would dismember them, occasionally cutting their torsos in half. Most of the victims died from the decapitation or the dismemberment itself. Some of the victims skin was found having a leathery look and feel, as if the killer had put some kind of chemical on their skin. Most victims were found within a year after their death, and without the heads being found most of the time, it was hard to identify the victims.
During the murders, Eliot Ness was the Public Safety Director of Cleveland, and he had authority over both the police and the fire department. Eliot Ness did not contribute to the murders very much, though he was contributed to arresting and the interrogation of a prime suspect, named Dr. Francis E. Sweeney. The murderer would often take his victims from what was known as the Kingsbury Run and Eliot Ness burnt this down to try to stop the murders. The murderer taunted Ness by placing the remains of two victims in front of his office in city hall.
Besides the two victims who were identified, the rest were 6 John Does and 4 Jane Does. The list of victims are in the order of when they were found.
Edward Andrassy, one of two of the only victims to ever be officially identified was found on September 23, 1935 in the Jackass Hill area of Kingsbury Run. He was found lying about 30 feet away from the first John Doe victim. He had been decapitated. It was believed that he had been dead for 2-3 days before his discovery. The first John Doe, also found September 23, 1935, was also decapitated and his head was recovered. His skin had been treated with some chemical to make it look red and leather like. At first, they believed he had been dead for 7-10 days, but this later changed to 3-4 weeks, meaning the killer had killed John Doe first, and then Edward Andrassy later. The other identified victim, Florence Genevieve Polillo, was found in late January or early February 1936. Her body had been dismembered and her head had been found. She was believed to be dead for 2-4 days before she was found.
The next victim believed to be killed was John Doe III, found on July 22, 1936. The man had been dismembered while still alive, with his head recovered. He is the only known West Side victim and it was believed he had been killed in May 1936. He was believed to be a 40 year old man, and there was muddy clothing piled up next to his head, 10 feet away from the nude body. There was bloodstains on the coat and blue polo shirt found. The coroner had some doubts that the man had actually been murdered.
John Doe II, more popularly known as “The Tattooed Man” was the next victim, found in Kingsbury Run. He was found on June 5, 1936, believed to have only been killed two days before. He had 6 tattoos: a bird and a band and the names “Helen and Paul” on the inner side of his left forearm, a heart and anchor in red and blue on the outer side of his right forearm, a flag and the initials “W.C.G.” on the inner side of his right forearm, a butterfly on his left shoulder, the head of the comic character “Jiggs” on his left ankle and an image of Cupid on his right ankle. Police figured it would most likely be identified due to someone recognizing the tattoos. However, no one came forward and his identity is still unknown, with many believing he was not from the area and that’s why no one recognized him. The Tattooed Man was estimated to be 20-23 years old, with a light complexion, reddish brown hair, chestnut coloured eyes, about 5′10 tall, slender build and weighed 165 lbs. His undershorts indicated that his initials were “J.D.”
Victim number 6 was Jane Doe II, found underneath the Lorian-Carneige bridge. She was found on June 6, 1937, and had been dead for a year before being discovered. She was the Cleveland Torso Murderer’s only black victim.
John Doe IV was the 7th victim, found in Kingsbury Run on September 10, 1936. He had been dead for two days and only half of his torso was ever recovered, there was nothing remaining below the hips. The head was never found.
The 7th victim was Jane Doe I, found on February 23, 1937 at Euclid Beach, on the Lake Erie shore. She had been murdered 3-4 days before her discovery, and was found in the same spot that the “Lady of the Lake” was found. Her head has never been found.
John Doe V was the 9th victim, found on July 6, 1937. He had been dead for 2-3 days before his discovery and he was pulled out of the Cuyahoga River in the Cleveland Flats. The head was never recovered.
The 10th victim was John Doe VI found on August 16, 1938. He had been dead for 7-9 months before his discovery, determining that he was killed between November 1937 and January 1938. This victim was found at the same time as Jane Doe IV and he had been decapitated with his head found in a can.
The 11th victim, Jane Doe IV, found also on August 16, 1938 had been dead for about 4-6 months before her discovery, placing her death somewhere between February to April 1938. She had also been decapitated and her head was recovered.
The 12th and last officially known victim of the Cleveland Torso Murderer was Jane Doe III, found on April 8, 1938 in the Cuyahoga River. She had been killed 3-5 days before her discovery but it was only her lower leg recovered at first. On May 2, 1938, a human thigh was found floating in the river. A police investigated further and found a burlap sack under the bridge which had the victim’s torso, which had been cut in two halves, another thigh and the left foot inside. The victim’s head and the rest of her body was never found and she was the only victim to have had drugs in her system.
There were other victims who many believed were killed by the Cleveland Torso Murderer, including the “Lady of the Lake” found on September 5, 1934. She is often referred to as “Victim Zero.”
On July 1, 1936, the headless body of an unidentified man was found in a boxcar in New Castle, Pennsylvania and three more headless victims were found in boxcars near McKees Rocks, Pennsylvania on May 3, 1940. The MO appeared to be the same as the torso killer.
There had been some dismembered bodies found in the swamps near New Castle, between 1921 and 1934, as well as between 1939 and 1942. This killer was dubbed the nickname “The Murder Swamp Killer” and almost all the victims found had similarities to the torso murders in Cleveland. New Castle’s Murder Swamp and Cleveland’s Kingsbury Run were directly connection by a Baltimore and Ohio Railroad line, which made it even more plausible that the same person was grabbing their victims in between these two areas off the train. Detective Merylo was so convinced he would often ride the train undercover to see if he could find any clues.
The body of 41 year old Robert Robertson was found on July 22, 1950, in Cleveland. Police believed he was dead 6-8 weeks before he was found, and he had been decapitated. Robert Robertson had been estranged from his family, had an arrest record and was known as alcoholic. Despite it having many similarities to the torso murders, detectives decided to treat it has an isolated crime.
In 1939, the Torso Killer claimed to have killed a victim in LA, but this investigation only led to the discovery of animal bones.
A resident named Frank Dolezal who was 52, was arrested on August 24, 1939, as a suspect in the murder of Florence Polillo, one of the only identified victims found. Dolezal actually died under suspicious circumstances in the Cuyahoga County jail.
Most believe the last actual murder the Torso killer committed was in 1938 and one of their main suspects was Dr. Francis E. Sweeney. Sweeney was born on May 5, 1894 and served the WWI. He worked as part of the medical unit, which would conduct amputations, though after the war he became an alcoholic to his depression and anxiety from the war.
Sweeney was interrogated by Eliot Ness, and had failed to pass two polygraph tests. The polygraph expert told Ness that this was their guy. Sweeney eventually committed himself but there wasn’t many connections between him and the killings. During his hospital confinement, Sweeney would write threats to Ness and his family into the 1950′s and he later died in a veterans’ hospital in Dayton on July 9, 1964.
In 1997, the theory that there could have been many different torso murders at work at the same time became popular. This was based off the fact that the autopsy reports were inconclusive and the only thing for certain was that the victims had been dismembered. The coroner at the time, Arthur J. Pearce may have been inconsistent with his findings of the cuts on the bodies. The Coroner after him, Samuel Gerber, was known to love media attention and had a reputation for creating wild theories.
If the first Cleveland murder occurred in 1934, it has been 87 years and the Cleveland Torso killer has never been identified. It is safe to say that the killer is no longer alive and he took his crimes and identity to the grave with him.
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Remember Us.
List of unidentified SK cases below: Some of these cases are over a hundred years old, and may never be solved.
* CASES ARE A THEORY; THE POLICE AND/OR FAMILIES OF THE VICTIMS REFUTE THE EXISTENCE OF A SERIAL KILLER
** MURDER AREA/SITE
Thames Torso Murderer 1873 - 1889
Servant Girl Annihilator 1884 - 1885
Whitechapel Murders 1887 - 1901
Cumminsville Slayer 1904 - 1910
Atlanta Ripper 1911 - 1913
Axeman of New Orleans 1918 - 1919
Murder Swamp Killer 1925 - 1939
Toledo Clubber 1925
Cleveland Torso Murderer 1934 - 1950
German Wire Murders 1935
Texarkana Moonlight Murders 1946
Atteridgeville Mutilator 1956
Jack the Stripper 1959 - 1964
Boston Strangler 1962 - 1964
Zodiac Killer 1963 - 1970
Cincinnati Strangler 1965 - 1966
Berger County Serial Killer* 1965 - 1970
Bible John 1968 - 1969
Capital City Murders 1968 - 1984
Monster of Florence 1968 - 1985
Highway of Tears 1969 - 2011
Ironman 1970s
Alphabet Murders 1971 - 1994
Freeway Phantom 1971 - 1994
Santa Rosa Hitchhiker Murders 1971 - 1979
Texas Killing Fields [murder site] 1971 - 2012
Charlie Chop-Off 1972 - 1974
Doodler 1974 - 1975
Ivan the Ripper 1974
Oakland County Child Killer 1974 - 1977
Ann Arbor Hospital Murders 1975
Flat-Tire Murders 1975
Gypsy Hill Killings 1976
Atlanta Lover’s Lane 1977
Connecticut River Valley Killer 1978 - 1988
Atlanta Murders 1979 - 1981
BC Missing Women 1979 – 2012
Family Murders 1979 - 1983
Ohio Lovers Killer 1979 - 1982
I-10 Serial Killer 1980 - 1990
Monster of Udine 1980 - 1989
Yakama Reservation Murders 1980 - 1992
Castration Serial Murders 1981 - 1986
The Priest Murders 1981 - 1984
Tylenol Poisoning 1982
Frankford Slasher 1985 - 1990
Honolulu Strangler 1985 - 1986
Paraquat Murders 1985
Stoneman 1985 - 1987
Tube Sock Killings 1985
Colonial Parkway Killer 1986 - 1989
Hwaseong Murders 1986 - 1991
Negev Desert Psychopath 1986 - 1997
Triangle of Death**
Twin Cities Killer 1986 - 1994
I-65 Murders 1987 - 1989
New Bedford Highway Murders 1988 - 1989
Bowraville Murders 1990 - 1991
Glasgow Prostitute Slayer 1991 - 2005
Rome’s Gay Killer 1991 - 1998
I-70 Killer 1992 - 1994
Lisbon Ripper 1992 - 1993
Smiley Face (murder theory)* 1992 - 2008
Ciudad Juárez Female Homicides 1993 - 2006
Eighth Street Killer 1994
Bothell Skeletons 1995 - 1997
Butcher of Mons 1996 - 1997
Claremont Murders 1996 - 1997
Long Island Serial Killer 1996 - 2013
Werewolf Killer of India 1996
Apulia Slasher 1997
Ontario County Cottage Murders 1998 - 1999
Leduc County Murders (murder theory)* 2003 - 2005
West Mesa Murders 2003 - 2009
Pusher (murder theory)* 2004 - 2013
B1 Butcher 2005 - 2007
Daytona Beach Killer 2005 - 2008
Edgecombe County Serial Killer 2005 - 2011
Jeff Davis 8 2005 - 2009
The Jennings Eight 2005 - 2009
Beer Man* 2006 - 2007
Eastbound Strangler 2006
Feb 9 Killer 2006 - 2008
Paturis Park Murders 2007 - 2008
Jack the Pusher 2009 - 2015
Cuffe Parade Killer 2012 - 2013
Bardstown Murders 2013 - 2016
Chillicothe Missing Women 2014 - 2015
Haryana Serial Killer 2015
Yorkshire Dipper* 2016
I have been trying to find something to do with this last few years. I’m still not sure, so here. The cases listed above are mostly unsolved; some of the cases have been partially solved, with at least one perpetrator being caught, or with a suspect being arrested but with enough doubt surrounding them that the case is considered open by the public.
The Smiley Face, Beer Man, Pusher, and Yorkshire Dipper “cases” are JUST THEORIES, and theories that are not encouraged or believed by the police and/or the families of the victims.
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Mad Butcher Of Kingsbury Run
Hello Reader,
I was watching Holzer Files with my mother the other day and they spoke of the Torso murderer in Cleveland and the hauntings that followed. While I love a good ghost story as much as the next guy thats not what we'll be talking about today.
The Cleveland Torso Murderer, also known as the Mad Butcher of Kingsbury Run, was an unidentified serial killer who was active in Cleveland, Ohio in the 1930s. He's said to have killed 12-20 people, including Edward Andrassy and Florence Genevieve Polillo.
The bodies would be dismembered with pieces being found in places that made it obvious he wanted them to be found.
The remains of several other victims were also found, but the victims were unfortunately never identified.
The murders and disappearances were understandably causing quite the stir, and detectives called in Eliot Ness, who was famous for his help in taking down Al Capone. Unfortunately for Ness and citizens of Cleveland, the killer was never identified but on August 24, 1939, a Cleveland resident named Frank Dolezal was arrested as a suspect in Florence Polillo's murder, Dolezal later died in prison under "suspicious circumstances".
Another suspected individual was Dr. Francis E. Sweeney, Sweeney was a World War 1 veteran turned alcoholic due to the mental impact the war had on him. Sweeney was later personally interviewed by Ness.
Before the interrogation, Sweeney was detained and he was found to be "so intoxicated that he was held in a hotel room for 3 days until he sobered up." Sweeney went on to fail two polygraph tests, both tests were administered by polygraph expert Leonarde Keeler, who told Ness he had his man. Ness however felt there was little chance of obtaining a successful prosecution of the doctor, especially as he was the first cousin of one of Ness's political opponents, Congressman Martin L. Sweeney, who had hounded Ness publicly about his failure to catch the killer.
Sweeney then committed himself, and there were no more leads or connections that police could assign to him as a possible suspect. During his hospital confinement Sweeney sent threatening postcards and letters to Ness and his family into the 50s, until his death.
In 1997, another theory postulated that there may have been no single Butcher of Kingsbury Run because the murders could have been committed by different people. This was based on the assumption that the autopsy results were "inconclusive'. Cuyahoga County Coroner Arthur J. Pearce may have been inconsistent in his analysis as to whether the cuts on the bodies were expert or slapdash. Second, his successor, Samuel Gerber, who began to enjoy press attention from his involvement in such cases as the Sam Sheppard murder trial, garnered a reputation for sensational theories. It is also rumored that the Cleveland Torso Killer moved out west and wrote a letter or two to Elliot Ness saying he has left Cleveland for good but he might have been involved with the "Black Dahlia" murder because both killings had similarities only known by the killer himself. Elliot Ness was said to have taken the identity of the killer's name to his grave.
What do you think Reader? I think it's possible he worked for the railway station, getting easy access to different places. But who knows?
This was Nervous True Crime, until next week, have fun and stay safe out there.
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Black Dahlia: Ask Me Anything, November 2024
In the November 2024 Ask Me Anything on the Black Dahlia case, I talk about my work in progress, Heaven Is HERE! and my current focus on the coroner’s office. SPOILER ALERT: I devoted a fair amount of time to discussing fiction vs. nonfiction, and the treatment of the Black Dahlia case in Michael Connelly’s latest novel, The Waiting. Continue reading Black Dahlia: Ask Me Anything, November 2024
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You've given me jess moore brainrot. Tell me more pls. Or alternatively stat any supernatural character of ur choosing or do both. (You've given me the brainrot i thought i was done with this)
YES....join me in my protag jess moore hours!! Come To The Better Reality
i actually still haven't Fully decided what jess was studying in college. i know that the like anime version of the show had her as a law student, so i guess that would be the most 'canon compliant' one? and if i remember right a lot of fanfic made her a nurse?
but like. personally, im invested in a jess whose abilities translate into hunting in a less traditional sense. like i really love math whiz jess, whose ability to see patterns makes her an ideal researcher; or jess who planned to work in criminology or history, whose knowledge of different cold cases and unsolved crimes gives her insight to modern cases (ie one "episode" idea was that the police would call a copycat killing of the cleveland torso murderer only for it to turn out to be a vampire hunter)
i especially like the angle of historian jess because i think it works really well for the other themes of the story - a lot of it is abt, as jess is hunting down dean (the last person sam was seen with before his death), the discovery of His personal history in tandem with the confronting of her own, and the themes of uncovering the past
theres actually a very literal level of that where one of the first places jess investigates (because dean is fuckin off the grid that boys impossible to find if he doesn't want found!) is the winchester house, which is an actual haunted building with some WILD architecture, and the whole shtick is digging into the past of the winchester family on a Larger Level
(its also where she meets meg! meg is posing as a More Experienced Hunter who is ALSO looking for dean. she's the one who leads jess to the roadhouse and introduces her to jo, and she's kind of their cas for a while until it gets revealed she was Evil All Along. theres plot reasons for all of this but they're secret. the important thing is she and jo have a 10-year allies to friends to enemies to forced cooperatives to tentative friends to soft mutual pining to lovers arc)
the big mid-season twist of "s1" in the timeline is that dean finally goes on the grid with The Whole Shapeshifter Murder Debacle, and deans apparently dead so the trail goes cold...except they look closer at the reports from the town. they go and talk to zach and becky. and they confirm.
sam was with dean.
sam, who jess watched burn alive on her ceiling, was walking around with dean not more than a few days ago.
and jess has some QUESTIONS.
#protag jess#spn#asks#supernatural#amosbreathingfree#thank u for the excuse to talk abt my new pet au i literally will never shut up abt it#also i have a tag for this verse now. because i love it#i am revealing literal plot and hiding jess backstory because i Want To Write It and that is the way i am thank u
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Top 5 favorite serial killers:
Number 5:
Harold Shipman a.k.a. Doctor Death
This ones mostly out of respect for shear numbers, the way he killed wasn’t too exiting but, like, that’s a high body count
Number 4:
John Wayne Gacy a.k.a. The Killer Clown a.k.a. Pogo the clown
I mostly like him cause it kinda sounds like his wife’s bigotry towards him coming out as bi to her seems like the breaking point for his killing spree, and I find that funny
Number 3:
The Axeman
I love to aesthetic of axe murder in general, also the demon complex is funny. And of course our good friend “jazzing”
the only reason theyre not higher up is because their kill rate was only 50%
Number 2:
H. H. Holme
A classic. The original American serial killer. I love the murder castle, I love everything about it. There is nothing about the murder castle I don’t love
Number 1:
Cleveland Torso Murderer
Again, the aesthetic. I like how they kept it just consistent enough to be recognized, but had a bit of variation too. Generally I like dismemberment. Also creative body hiding
number one in my book
#serial killer#serial killers#Doctor Death#harold shipman#John Wayne Gacy#pogo the clown#The killer clown#The Axeman#h. h. Holmes#The murder castle#Murder castle#Cleveland torso murderer#Ranking serial killers
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It’s been so long that I forgot what the plot was
The Hotdaga Plot-
•The Boy In The Box - August 10th 2017 - Dan the Hotdog skateboards across the screen and crashes into a wall
•The Missing Family - August 16th 2017 - Dan and Rebecca drive across the screen, the car crashes and Rebecca shoots him and then she drives away
•Jonbenét Ramsey - August 23rd 2017 -Rebecca is sailing around in her pickle boat and Dan is chasing her using a seagull
•Amelia Earhart - August 30th 2017 - Dan & Rebecca meet on an island and their son, Brandon, is revealed. Pam, Rebecca’s witch twin sister, is revealed on a crab and is prepared to crab joust Dan
•Room 1046 - September 7th 2017 - Flashback to when Dan and Rebecca meet and Rebecca promises not to shoot Dan
•Natalie Wood - September 13th 2017 - Flashback to Dan and Rebecca’s wedding
•Poison Pill Murders - September 21st 2017 - Flashback to Murray and Ginas childhood when their father tells them to watch out for a hotdog witch
•Keddie Cabin - September 28th 2027 - Future Brandon goes to Dr Lisa Bratwurst and Gene for help to get back to the hoist to prevent it
•JFK - October 4th 2017 - Brandon appears at the joust and un-hypnotises Murray and Gina and stops Dan from dying which would have destroyed the future. Murray and Gina take Pam away to get eaten by a raccoon. Future Brandon eats Baby Brandon. Baby Brandon possesses the raccoon and Pam and Baby Brandon decide to get revenge on everyone
•Eastern Stare Penitentiary - November 1st 2017 - Gene gets a letter from his sister, Gebra, asking if his band will play at their wedding so Dan, Rebecca, Brandon and Gene decide to go get Genes band back together
•Goatman’s Bridge - November 8th 2017 - We learn more about Gene and some begin to question wether or not they’re being led into a witch trap
•Pennhurst Asylum - November 15th 2017 - Gene goes to Steven Rootbeer to get him back in the band
•Roswell - November 22nd 2017 - Gene and Steven go to get Melba and the Risky Fixins are back together
•Roanoke - November 29th 2017 - We learn some fun facts about Gene
•Viaduct Tavern - December 6th 2017 - They arrive at the wedding but Pam and Raccoon Brandon appear
•Colchester Castle - December 13th 2017 - Flashback to Pam and Raccoon Brandon talking The Dark Master while they talk about a prophecy, leading to the formation of a plan about how they will drop everyone into a volcano to get the GUP, the gauntlet of ultimate power. The hooded figure tells Pam and Raccoon Brandon to lure Gene and the Hotdog family to Hawaii
•London Tombs - December 20th 2017 - It is revealed that all at the wedding except from Gene, the Hotdog family and Mike soup are holograms. Maizey gets angry with Pam so Maizey and Gebra get married and the Risky Fixins play “Relish Life” but Pam still drops them into the volcano
•Gardener Museum Heist - February 7th 2018 - The GUP is created and Gene, Maizey and Mike Soup are alive. They decide to try to go back in time to save everyone
•Cleveland Torso Murders - February 15th 2018 - We found out Mike Soup fought in a war and they decide to go to a wormhole to go back in time
•Isdal Woman - February 22nd 2018 - Pam and Raccoon Brandon report back to The Dark Master and the hooded figure summons the GUP. The hooded figure finds out Mike Soup survived so he kills Pam
•Ken Rex - March 1st 2018 - Mike Soup, Maizey and Gene are trying to go to a planet to get a converter but are attacked and they crash before they can land there
•William Desmond Taylor - March 7th 2018 - Maizey wakes up on a new planet and cannot contact her friends but then meets the Pulpple Garce who says he can take her to the crashed ship. We find out Plupples cannot lie.
•Louis Le Prince - March 14th 2018 - Plupples and Maizey talk about Dr Goondis and Maizey falls into a trap cave where there are many Plupples and Dr Goondis (voiced by Ryan Steven Bergara) can be heard in the cave
•The Jamison Family - March 21st 2018 -Jobblet, a Plupple, introduces Dr Goondis and Dr Goondis decides to throw Maizey in jail for harassing Plupples and to prove her innocence she will have to fight a giant Plupple and the Plupples carry Maizey to a cell. The radio plays, talking about Earth and then it plays “Plupple Honeymoon” by the Risky Fixins. Then a mini version of Pam appears in Maizeys cell
•Rolling Hills Asylum - May 2nd 2018 - Some Plupples find the starship Minestrone but then they explode. Mike Soup and Gene emerge and are attacked by a sky beast, only for it to be distracted by Garce. Garce takes Mike and Gene to Maizey
•Bellaire House - May 9th 2018 - Maizey rants at Pam and then Pam disappears as Jobblet enters. Maizey is told Gene and Mike were attacked by Plupples and the goes to see Dr Goondis
•Ohio State Reformatory - May 16th 2018 - Flashback to Pam and Papa Crab in some sort of afterlife thing. They talk and Pam is told she can go back but if she dies again, she’s dead forever. She leaves the afterlife
•Phoenix Lights - May 23rd 2018 - Pam begins searching for Gene and Mike but finds their bodies. Garce appears and says Mike and Gene are just sleeping. Pam possesses Garces pit. Mike and Gene wake up
•Moon River Brewing - May 30th 2018 - Gene, Mike and Garce go to Jobblet. They talk about Dr Goondis and Jobblet gives Mike the converter but the Mike and Gene pass out because of the drinks Jobblet gave them. Jobblet talks to the hooded figure and tells him that they have Maizey, Gene, Mike and the converter
•Sorrel-Weed Mansion - June 6th 2018 - Dr Goondis’ rap begins while Maizey is waiting in the coliseum and Maizey defeats the giant Plupple by tricking it into lying
•Villa Montezuma - June 13th 2018 - Maizey wakes up to find the coliseum destroyed. Jobblet is revealed to be a peach. The Minestrone breaks through the cave, cracking open Dr Goondis, showing that inside the shell there is a sane, as he is no longer hypnotised, chicken Dr Goondis who sings the song “Outta My Shell” and they all leave on the Minestrone
•Collar Bomb - July 25th 2018 - Jobblet dreams that he is on a beach as a peach with Garce and his wife but then wakes up on the Minestrone where Maizey, Dr Goondis and Smeech are waiting for him to wake up. Jobblet tells them where Gene and Mike are
•Eight Day Bride - August 1st 2018 - Gene and Mike wake up to see Garce and they are being taken to the space buffet. Once they get there they’re basically drugged. The station they are at picks up on a huge thing that is eating everything in its path and will reach the station in a few days
•Alcatraz - August 8th 2018 - Two sliders talk and the go interrogate Goondis, Maizey, Jobblet and Smeech because they came in the wrong entrance, but then they get let in
•Litvinenko - August 15th 2018 - Mike, Gene and Garce find Maizey, Goondis, Jobblet and Smeech, who are now also drugged.
•Charles C. Morgan - August 22nd 2018 - They are all on a float when the thing that the station picked up that was eating everything arrives and eats half of it. Pam kills Garce to escape from his pit and then kills Jobblet.
•Bobby Dunbar - August 29th 2018 - Smeech is shot by the thing that was eating everything, The Dark Master, and he shoots Gene too. The Dark Master is short the the serenity ray. Maizey, Gene and Pam plan to go back to the Minestrone. The Dark Master is revealed to be the Chilli Pope so Goondis and Mike stay behind
•Forrest Fenn - September 12th 2018 - Maizey, Gene and Pam are on the Minestrone and Maizey puts the converter in and then they leave. Gene sings “Believe Me Maizey” and then dies.
(This took me a little while to get to because I had to go through the wiki script and all the episodes to write this so... I hope you appreciate this)
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The Company of Demons
The Company of Demons by Michael Jordan
2019 Best Book Award Winner in Mystery/Suspense 2019 Royal Palm Literary Award SILVER Medal Winner in Thriller/Suspense 2019 Indie Excellence Award Winner in Crime Fiction 2019 Indie Excellence Award Finalist in Legal Thriller 2019 International Book Awards Finalist in Mystery/Suspense 2019 Readers' Favorite Book Awards Silver Medalist 2018 Florida Book Awards GOLD Medal Winner in Popular Fiction Amazon Best Seller in Historical Thrillers Amazon Best Seller in Mystery, Thriller & Suspense Amazon Best Seller in Serial Killers The plot, the characters, and the details all conspire to give the reader a book that is excruciating to put down because of the craving to see what happens next. -- Cleveland Sun News "Jordan is a cross between John Grisham and Stephen King." -- Cleveland Scene The brutal murder of a friend leaves lawyer John Coleman stunned and sends shockwaves through the city of Cleveland. The technique of the killing recalls memories of the Torso Murderer, who dismembered at least twelve people decades ago and then vanished—eluding even legendary crime fighter Eliot Ness. Jennifer, the victim’s beautiful daughter, hires John to handle her father’s estate, and romantic feelings for her soon complicate his already troubled marriage. When John finds himself entangled with a cold-blooded biker gang, an ex-cop with a fuzzy past, and the drug-addicted son of the dead man, he struggles to make sense of it all. But there is no escaping a growing sense of dread. "A well-written and complexly plotted crime thriller." --Caroline McCullagh, Mensa Bulletin ''The terror of the Torso Murderer returns in this gritty, Cleveland-centric tale. Jordan delights with crackling dialogue, true-to-life characters, an intensely paced plot, and an explosive finale. A must-read for fans of Lecter, Dexter, and the Ripper.'' --John Keyse-Walker, Author of Sun, Sand, Murder and Beach, Breeze, Bloodshed; winner of Minotaur Books/Mystery Writers of America First Crime Novel Award ''Michael Jordan brings characters and scenes to life in this emotionally gripping and compelling breakout novel. Brilliantly crafted.'' --Rick Porrello, author of To Kill the Irishman (adapted into a major motion picture), Superthief!, and The Rise and Fall of the Cleveland Mafia Corn, Sugar, and Blood The Company of Demons by Michael Jordan is a wonderful blend of crime and mystery, a riveting story with sophisticated characters. [...] Michael Jordan is a great storyteller and he has the ability to keep the narrative emotionally intense and psychologically disturbing. The Company of Demons is a real page-turner. -- Reader's Favorite
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BFU True Crime Ask Meme
Dyatlov Pass: Do you prefer hot or cold weather?
Zodiac Killer: What's your sign? Do you pay attention to astrology?
Sodder Children: Would you ever want to be a private investigator? Would you be the plucky PI or the disillusioned detective?
Michelle von Emster: What do you think is the world's apex predator?
DB Cooper: What would you do with one million USD in cash, assuming you couldn't put it in the bank/online at all?
Axeman of New Orleans: What would your superhero/villain name be?
Tromp Family: How do you stay entertained while traveling?
Amelia Earheart: What's the furthest from home you've ever traveled?
Room 1046: What's the first fake name that comes to your head?
Natalie Wood: How do you think you're going to die?
Tylenol Murders: Have you ever been the reason for new signs/labels/rules?
Keddie Cabin: Does your hometown have any secrets?
Jack the Ripper: When did you last write a physical letter to someone?
Gardner Museum Heist: If you could own one famous art piece, what would it be?
Cleveland Torso Murders: If you could hook up one person to a truly infallible lie detector test and ask them one yes or no question, who and what would you ask?
Ken Rex McElroy: If you could get away with it, would you kill someone?
William Desmond Taylor: If you could star in/write/produce any film to be famous for, what would it be about?
Jamison Family: Would you ever live in a tiny house?
Jimmy Hoffa: What would your mafia name be?
Collar Bomb Bank Robbery: What do you get on your pizza?
Eight Day Bride: Do you third wheel or double date?
Alcatraz Prison Break: Do you fix things yourself with what you have on hand or take them to a repair shop?
Bobby Dunbar: If you've ever looked up your family history, what's the strangest thing you've found?
#Ask Meme#buzzfeed unsolved#askbox Meme#bfu#these are terrible#I removed some cases because I did not want to#trivialize them#with such a thing#other ones I trivialize here shamelessly
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