#Case Closed! - Post P4 Verse
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Why bother with a diet and proper nutrition when coffee promises you less than five calories per drink? Best weight loss strategy.
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Geared towards people who don’t have much knowledge on P4.
Anything verse specific will be noted, but otherwise everything here is for her canon/main/whatever you want to call it verse. Will be edited as necessary.
PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE (anyone can figure out/know/whatever word you want to use)
Fifth and currently last in line of the Shirogane lineage of private detectives. While not at household celebrity status, within Japan, she and her family are rather well-known. They’re pretty obscure outside of that, save for specific law enforcement individuals who request their aid.
Cracked 24 cases before she turned 16.
Her parents are dead, their deaths were on the news for a short while. No one cares now, but enough digging will bring a few articles up.
Before the events of the game, knowing that Naoto is a girl was basically a secret. Afterwards, she no longer hides it, but still prefers to wear masculine clothing and keep her hair short. She doesn’t bother to correct people if they refer to her as a boy. (Considering I usually default to post-game, this is more or less pointless.)
Knows conversational Mandarin and Korean, fluent in English (with no hint of an accent), rusty and outdated French, and JSL.
Has a New Nambu M60. Passed a rigorous examination to acquire one and is held up to high standards. Her marksmanship is excellent.
Avid reader of mysteries, crime fiction, and other genres related to the detective sphere. It’s one of the few personal facts about herself she’s willing to divulge.
Her disdain for the police is not overt, but she’s upfront on the fact that she finds a good number of them incompetent if asked about.
Her client’s safety comes first, if it means putting herself in harm’s way, that’s how it is.
SEMI-PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE (people who are close can figure out/know/whatever word you want to use)
Has a bit of a sweet tooth, but overly sweet like American frosting earns her ire.
Beyond being a detective fiction enjoyer, she is a fan of tokusatsu. There’s just something cool about people transforming into masked heroes, regardless of the stupid (even she can’t defend that) spandex suits. Similarly, she’s a fan of mecha shows. Holds a secret fondness for cheesy hot blooded super robot shows in particular.
She’s definitely not as all right as she wants you to believe, but getting her to open up about it is obscenely difficult.
Amazingly, she knows about video games. Unfortunately, they’re typically from the 80s and 90s. Being busy with work doesn’t leave much time for video games. It’s the same with movies, she knows a lot of old detective and crime related movies, but when it comes to anything modern, she’s not the most knowledgeable. You can say living with an old man has its influences.
She loves to tinker with mechanical and electronic things, but don’t tell anyone. It’s not very professional.
PRIVATE KNOWLEDGE (good luck figuring this out)
Has a magical spirit guardian in the form of a weird bird prince man residing in her soul. With it comes the power to go through television screens.
That car crash her parents died in, she happened to be there too. She’ll always consider it a mistake that she was insistent that they spend time with her. After the dust settled, she was passed around to three different relatives before her grandfather became her official guardian.
It turns out that trying to deny you have depression and PTSD and other things isn’t good for you, but Naoto is intent on insisting she’s fine anyway, regardless of what anyone thinks.
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SHUICHI SAIHARA
While timid and particularly unobtrusive, Shuichi is a person of integrity. Years spent with a detective uncle had carved a formidable foundation for law-abiding behavior.
{ POST-GAME. }
In his primary verse, he was thrown into Danganronpa unwillingly and upon waking up from the Virtual Reality, was missing quite a bit of his original memories. Between physical and mental therapy, he’d find that his past would always be elusive but a few things remain solid. His friendships, his family situation, and his nature remained consistent. What became a hurdle was the fact that Danganronpa had not known prior to kidnapping him that he was a trans male, and thus did not alter his in-game avatar. Upon his release, he would find renewed difficulty in the dysphoria but a clearer understanding of himself.
As a note, if I write with anyone WITHIN the game’s timeline, I will change the mishap over his avatar in the VR to accurately reflect his born sex instead. This is because I am fond of this concept, and I’d like to keep that aspect of him consistent as I write.
{ HOPE’S PEAK. }
Standard verse, taking place during his years at Hope’s Peak. He lives on-campus at a dorm and is often gone over any significant breaks, doing cases or visiting his Uncle and Aunt. He’s more often than not away on any and all days off, going to the city to explore, experience events and festivals, or otherwise, work off his physical energy so he can focus on his studies later that night.
{ P4. }
Split into two halves. One centers around Hope’s Peak –> P4′s plot, without DR.
In his secondary verse, Danganronpa existed within the world of Persona, spurred on by severe influences within the Metaverse. Himself and others were dragged in but through the trials they faced, they awakened to their potential, and Chapter Six was a boss battle as the Metaverse seeped into their Virtual Reality simulation. Upon waking, they retained their personas and made a vow to seek the truth, no matter the cost. He is of the Death Arcana, capable of summoning AUGUSTE DUPIN, same as the legendary fictional detective.
Accompanying these two verses, it’s available for Shuichi and Naoto to be brothers. They lived separately and don’t know much about each other–even down to opening up about their gender identity which would only end up being implied, as both would be too awkward to talk about it during family events.
{ P5. }
Split into two halves. One centers around Hope’s Peak –> P5′s plot, without DR.
In his secondary verse, Danganronpa existed within the world of Persona, spurred on by severe influences within the Metaverse. Himself and others were dragged in but through the trials they faced, they awakened to their potential, and Chapter Six was a boss battle as the Metaverse seeped into their Virtual Reality simulation. Upon waking, they retained their personas and made a vow to seek the truth, no matter the cost. He is of the Death Arcana, capable of summoning AUGUSTE DUPIN, same as the legendary fictional detective.
{ POKEMON. }
The third verse is a pokemon verse where he’s a P.I. with two pokemon, a Growlithe and an Umbreon named Lee and Bree. After the show ended, he returned to his Uncle’s work as a part-timer and on low-risk cases, and was given an Eevee at the time. Growlithe has been with him since before the show, so both pokemon work together to ensure he keeps a calm head.
{ APOCALYPSE. }
This is an apocalypse AU in which the undead arose while he underwent high school life at Hope’s Peak. He’s great for tactical approaches and working hard, but the loss of Kaito and many others weigh on him. His only comfort is that Kaede remains by his side.
{ VAMPIRE. }
This verse is split into two groups; one remains post-game, and the other is Hope’s Peak. Each of these will be tagged with both tags.
The post-game verse is a vampire verse in which he was bitten before the game. It’s my only non-VR AU with the killing game included, but the game doesn’t have to go as it did in canon because I’d love to interact with certain characters regardless. He’s young and without a sire, but I’ll be taking a bit of lore from Vampire: The Masquerade and say that his humanity is extremely high. This grants him the ability to hide what he is extremely well, among other things. He has the power of suggestion, but he’s very untrained with it and would hate to use it unless he morally had to.
The alternate verse is in which he’s at Hope’s Peak and handles the results of being bitten on a case during a break, uprooting his entire lifestyle.
{ AVIAN. }
Sixth verse is one in which he’s winged, mirroring the pattern of a blue raven with their mostly black, glossy-blue wings and his bright eyes. They’re too big to hide and he can fly, but he’s timid about it and prefers to stay grounded out of safety.
{ REMNANT. }
A verse where DR2′s plot was V3′s, and the ‘older classmates’ that helped were DR2′s cast. The verse is spliced into three parts. Shuichi acting as an active Remnant of Despair is the first segment, him inside Future Foundation’s custody is the second, and post-NWP is the third. He’s ruthless and hellbent on punishing criminals, turning his personality to mirror a sadism that he’s sickened by. He kidnaps Kaito during the active remnant days as well as attempts to kidnap and punish other classmates/remnants in the name of justice.
He’s very similar to Future Foundation’s leaders at the time but believes them to be corrupt/weak, seeing as Junko still captured him and others.
{ BLIND. }
During a case overseas, Shuichi was a victim of an acid attack. It stole his sight during his final year at Hope’s Peak as a result, bringing him to a long hospital stay and therapy in the coming months to regain some resemblance of autonomy.
{ SUPERHERO. }
Shuichi is one of the top officers in the city not for his experience, but his knack for being in the right place at the right time, and his ability to talk to the villains at least somewhat civilly. He often accompanies Kaito and does his best to do what’s right, regardless of what the police force thinks he should be doing, which puts him in a tough spot.
He does have an ability, which is that all psychological abilities have a significantly decreased effect on him. He essentially has a mental fortitude buff.
{ METAL HEART AU. }
Shuichi suffered a car crash that all but ruined his physical body, save for his mind. His Uncle and Idabashi had been good friends, and right as the roboticist entered stages of humanlike development on his own project, Shoma all but pleaded for a chance to give Shuichi a new body.
Codenamed S4U-1C41, he would end up living with the roboticist as he regained mobility while Kibo, the man’s son, was accepted into the Saihara’s household given his own love of detective work.
Regarded as inhumane, Shuichi understands the importance of his secret and hides his true identity.
{ TWINS. }
Fairly straightforward as an AU and can be in conjunction with almost every other AU he has. His birth name would be Shiho still, but the next part depends on who takes the role of Shuichi–if the other twin does, then the name he’d choose for himself is Shouhei Saihara regardless of what last name he inherited. If he takes the role of Shuichi, then he’d have chosen Shuichi Saihara as his new name.
His dynamic with the sibling depends on the personality of said twin, but his own personality remains fairly responsible–even to the point of taking the blame for his brother and proving incredibly loyal. A large detail that changes him is that loneliness is a persevering trait of his and I like the idea that he and his brother were split up a lot as their parents were not prepared for two, resulting in an on-off stay with Uncle Shoma. This means that while he craves closeness with his sibling, he remains awkward about it and uncertain of what is really acceptable or desired of him.
As a result, he’s extremely sensitive to criticism.
{ PREGAME. }
After much consideration, this verse was added. Shouhei Saihara is a boy with high expectations placed on him. Although his Uncle is less strict than his parents were, he was forced into attending Spring Field Academy and forced into living with his Uncle and Aunt while his parents continued pursuing their careers.
He’s used to being treated differently due to his status and loathes it, often avoiding saying his name, hiding his face, and otherwise being suspicious of those who talk to him. His social skills are terrible due to moving from school to school and lacking the ability to have too much freedom beyond studying. His world-view is pessimistic and his love for Danganronpa stems from hoping most of the characters die, believing them to be terrible people, aside from the rare favorite.
{ GOFER PROJECT. }
Shuichi grew up as the world fell apart, heavy-hearted and devastated by the collapse. From the meteors to the sickness, then the Gofer Project and the rise of the opposing cult, he clung to any minuscule stability he had before going on the run, hiding from friend and foe alike. While he feels unworthy of being in the project he understood the necessity of it at the time and still does.
His natural role as a peace-keeper and helper come out full force in this AU as being alone remains the worst thing he could do to himself. His anxiety over being transmale increases due to the heavy promotion of having children, but he comes to the understanding that their new world needs law and not every one of the students were designed to be on board purely for procreating–Kiibo and Kirumi, for example, whose talents center around enrichment of others and coexistence rather than something so base.
{ ROYALTY. }
Born to the King and Queen of a kingdom, Shuichi was able to escape the confines of sophisticated life to grow up under his Uncle’s care, who was a simple detective within the kingdom. Because so little information about the heir to the throne was ever released, when he was called back, few questioned his identity and the ones that did only assumed he may have been the nephew of the rulers and that the ‘princess’ had died. His head knight is Kaito and the chief of security and intelligence is Maki. Kirumi is both the head maid and cook for him, and he’s tentatively worked out a deal where she lets him help in the kitchen when he can.
The kingdom itself is steeped in arts and literature due to the King’s love of stage play and the Queen’s love of writing for such things. This gives the land an easygoing feel, but it’s ill-equipped to handle threats as a result and Shuichi holds a vastly different view of what should be going on–and he’ll soon be King when they step down to finally abandon their royal duties in favor of the arts. It’s a lot, and he’s pressured to find a spouse before the coronation. Men aren’t excluded from this, though his parents specifically have chosen to avoid mentioning it.
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How I want PQ2 to go down.
(note hade to retype this cause it got deleted in the middle of publishing somehow so yeah round two! 8U)
Ok so this is going to be part of a series of connecting posts on how I think certain games should go down. Things to note with this game is I’m thinking it’ll be P3PxP5, so yeah I know you’re probably thinking “*gasp* Spoilers?!” And no I will try to make this post as spoiler free as possible, I might allude to something but it’ll be really vague so that only people who played the game know what’s up. So yeah you’re ok if you haven’t played P5. Also I will do a separate post that is like a Q and A and it’ll explain my reasons as to why in more depth, but it’ll also be a very spoilery P5 post so yeah if you want spoilers for P5 stay tuned for a separate post. With that lets get started
Note before reading: I will be referring to FeMC as Hamuko, P3 Male MC as Minato, and P5MC as Akira (his manga name) in this, you can still name them later just for typing purposes I’m doing this. Also you should note that while I did type a main plot for this, and tbh I think it came out fairly well considering I’m not well versed in one of the mythos and I did that after 2 hours of research, it’s not the thing I’m really concerned about beyond it setting the stage for P3PxP5 to meet. So if you don’t like the main plot and think you have a better one I’d love to hear it!
Name of the game: PQ2: Oasis in the Abyss as @kazusakai came up with it (and i love it cause it fits so well! ;w;). It fits since P3P had Vision Quest/Desert of Doors, and P5 has a desert dungeon and a song called River in the Desert (DON’T LOOK UP THAT SONG’S LYRICS THO AS IT CONTAINS MASSIVE SPOILERS).
Themes: We know P3’s themes, death yada yada. P5’s being fighting corruption and justice yada yada. There’s also going to be a big theme with deserts and things associated with that as well as oasis/rivers (hence the name). (note this is to keep in mind that I tried really hard to make the plot revolve around these specific themes so yeah)
Setting: Just like PQ2 it involves the whole ripping out of your timeline stuff from PQ, tho in this case it involves an alternate universe as it’s Hamuko instead of Minato (from what we can tell by the easter eggs in P5, P5 seems to be in the same universe as P3/4 but later in the timeline like 2016). Like with P3 in PQ it’s right around the time of their cancelled school festival that they get pulled out. With P5 it happens around their school festival too (maybe actually a little later as this way all characters are officially on your team, like Haru). The world they get pulled into might actually take the setting of P5’s school, with the dungeon portion actually being part of the Desert of Doors.
Main Plot: Ok so like PQ, there’s a mysterious duo. They have no memories (except for the vaguest of vague), can’t summon a Persona, look foreign (like Zen does, aka they have darker skin), look somewhere around the age of a 3rd year in high school or a 1st/2nd year in college (they don’t wear school uniforms so that’s why it’s hard to tell), and have to fight as a duo. The boy’s name is Seto (世登, means the world) and the girl’s name is Nori (義 means Righteousness/justice). The boy’s appearance: white hair (Seto means white in Javanese, not the mythos I’m using but still neat), red t shirt with a weird dog on it (note following the link will spoil my surprise 8U), his weapon is a book or staff that casts healing magic (he’s very similar to Rei’s role). His personality is very easy going and happy go lucky, fulfilling Rei’s role in that regard as well. Nori has long brownish hair, with a blue t shirt with a falcon like bird on it, she uses bows and arrows and uses offensive magic (similar to Zen). Her personality is more serious, but not to the same point as Zen, as she can still take a joke and goof around. There will be ship feels with Seto/Nori just like with Zen and Rei, tho it should be noted that Seto has a tendency to flirt with Haru, not that he understands why, but it makes Nori jealous (note she’s upset with Seto not Haru, she likes Haru) and Seto comically has to apologize every time he does it (don’t worry there’s a good reason I’m having this kind of trope or else I wouldn’t have in here in the first place).
Ok so Seto and Nori have amnesia, but they do seem to remember just a little bit more than Zen and Rei, that being they know they came there themselves and have something to do there but just can’t remember what (Zen and Rei don’t have that memory back till their first dungeon I think). They also know that they’ve known each other for a long time and they think they remember that Seto and Nori are their names but yeah. Seto and Nori are really close, Nori likes to brag about how she’s always by Seto’s side and how she wants him to lean on her. Seto is shown to be upset that he always leans on her and wish she would lean on him once and awhile. Also like PQ, they start off pretty happy only to then get darker and more serious as it goes on.
(now to power though the story portion) Ok so we get through the 1st dungeon and we find out that the reason why they’re here is because they’re looking for someone. We get to the 2nd dungeon and we find out that it’s connected to Seto’s brother they are looking for, they can’t remember why still and theorize maybe he ran away and are trying to get him back. 3rd dungeon is where they find out that Seto’s brother was murdered (paralleling the doctor in PQ, also Death theme), and they realize that they might be there to find the killer and to avenge his brother (justice theme for P5). 4th dungeon we are confronted by a Shadow/Cognitive Existence (this is a term from P5 and while this concept has been used in past Persona games without having a name to it, it’s basically a Shadow or something that looks like a Shadow Self but isn’t and that’s your spoiler free explanation) find out that it was Seto who killed his brother (or so it seems). They fight a boss called “Osiris” (some of you might be connecting the dots now). The 5th dungeon revolves around Seto’s judgement and fight the goddess (c’mon there’s always a god) Isis (*gasp* Yukari control your Persona 8U Jk).
“Oh ok so it’s Egyptian myth” Ahaha nope not exactly, I want to make it more complicated than that (because spoiler reasons I can only say complicated). Like I could just go with only the Egyptian myth, but I feel the need to mix it in with another mythos (think Jun’s Chronos/Cronos from P2). Again sorry if it’s not mixed very well, I didn’t put more than an hour’s thought into it so there could be a neat way for them to do it. Ok so like, if you connected the dots or followed that link above, you’d find out that Seto is actual Seth/Set (spelled Seto in Japanese) the Egyptian god of storms, desert, chaos, violence and war (this also explains why he hits on Haru, if you still don’t get it stay tuned for a spoiler post). This guy is the one who killed his brother Osiris. BUT he’s also Seth from Gnostic/Christian mythos, who is the brother who “replaced” Abel after his death by Cain (hence why Seto wanted to seek vengeance). It turns out that in like a bonus boss fight (like with Zeus in PQ) that you fight Cain and thus connecting the two Mythos. As for Nori, while her name I derived from Seth’s wife in Gnostic lore, Norea (so I guess Norei would’ve been more accurate but alksfdklanf;a leave me alone ;w; 義 was too good to pass up), though in other lore his wife’s name is Azura (which reminds me of azul which means blue and that’s why her shirt is blue lafndsl;fna word play 8U). As for who she represents in Egyptian lore it’s Nephthys, Seth’s wife there too.
As for why they had their memories confused, it could be the fact that they fused together or the shock or whatever. Again I’m not too concerned with the main plot as long as I get P3PxP5 feels and it helps with their character I’m fine. Ok phew that’s over. I think I got everything from when I originally typed it. (I do go into some more detail on this in the endings later, and maybe splitting the two mythos into two routes could work).
Cast Make up: Ok before I get to B plot I should talk about how the cast will be made up cause it’s important to me. I think we should have a game where we only have the whole P5 cast and Hamuko (aka not the rest of the P3(P) cast except Velvet Room people). Ok like maybe I’ll have Aigis and/or Pharos there too (reasons stated later), but I’m mostly focused on Hamuko herself in relation with P5 kids. I have reasons, one is that we don’t’ get possible rehash of PQ’s plot. I say possible because unlike Minato, Hamuko SLs with her whole team and is in turn closer to them. So like P3’s side B plot could possibly not take place because of this, or it could but…yeah. As for the revenge B plot on the P4 side, while I’d LOVE to see how the P5 kids would talk it over I don’t want a rehash of the plot tbh.
The other thing this’ll fix is screen time and writing. Ok, PQ was a pretty great game but the way the characters were written was a little wonky (same with Ultimax but that poor thing got shafted so hard and let’s just focus on PQ). Like everyone was mean (dunno why they were, but the characters didn’t seem to offended by each other’s comments…still confused why this happened) and reduced to quirks (the main point). With just having Hamuko, Theo, Liz, and Margret (and again, maybe Pharos and/or Aigis) with the P5 cast it’ll make it easier than having to balance aaaallll the characters in from SEES and IT.
But I also think this make sense in a meta sense too. Like, PQ was part of what I dub the Labrynth Trilogy (PQ/Arena/Ultimax), PQ was made to explain how the P3/4 kids could trust each other so easily and work so well together, and that’s because they subconsciously remembered each other form that time. Now for P5? Say in Arena 3 the P5 kids meet the P3 team, but the problem is that it’s not the same P3 team (different universe with P3P remember?), P5 kids might feel the need to help P3 team but P3 team wouldn’t trust them (cause they don’t subconsciously remember them, only the P5 kids do), and then the P4 team def doesn’t know the P5 team and vice versa and alkdsfnkl;af it’d just be a real mess. I mean I can see them making it work but why make it so hard? But what if it’s just one person the P5 kids care about? What if the P5 kids do get in a tussle with the P3/4 kids over said person? That person being Hamuko. She’d be the Hamuko from the P3/4/5 timeline, she wouldn’t know the P5 kids, she wouldn’t know SEES, she’s not the same Hamuko from the P3P timeline (probably has a different name too), so she’s a different person, but it would be interesting to see P5 kids trying to help her because they knew another her from another universe (Oh hey P2 people am I getting you attention? 8U). It’s also easier to juggle only one person like that instead of a group of people. That’s my little preview for Arena 3 and/or 4, back to PQ2.
B Plot: Ok so like I said above I didn’t want a rehash of the plot, but if they did change it a bit…..it would be similar but different. Like, ok, so Hamuko is technically closer to her team than Minato. Instead of Yukari saying stuff like “we’re not that close”, Hamuko would muse to the P5 kids saying “Man looking at you guys I can see you’re all are really close as a group….makes me realize just how close my team might actually not be as I originally thought. Up until now I thought we all kind of got along, I thought we were close… But maybe it was only me that they’re close to….” She’ll later talk about how she might’ve instinctively known it all along, and so that’s why she tried so hard to get everyone to be closer to her. She realizes she’s the glue that holds everyone together and is afraid that if something happens to her they’ll all fall apart. She’ll then worry that maybe she’s actually not that close to everyone as she thinks she is, those reasons are: Yukari goes behind everyone’s back to ask Fuuka to get info for her, Fuuka doesn’t treat Hamuko the same way as she treats Natsuki aka her best friend, Mitsuru and Aigis can’t be SL at that time yet (tho Mitsuru does praise Hamuko and Aigis is always by her side so it’s like they’re strangers), Junpei/Akihiko/Ken all have a roadblock at some point so you can’t become closer to them, Shinjiro is fairly reluctant to SL with you even during ranks in the beginning, Koro is a dog (and also doesn’t want you to replace his owner) (so basically they’re all closer to her than Minato, but yet there’s still a barrier for her that she can’t seem to get over). And maybe the last B plot being that she hates how she has to be perky and a stepford smiler, as it puts a lot of pressure on her and she’s actually really stressed out. And also maybe how she feels like she’s usually stuck in the middle of everyone’s drama (ie Yukari vs Mitsuru cause she gets pulled along during the beach scene, Ken vs Shinjiro via SLing with them)
On the P5 side they could have their ideologies throw into question, maybe they start to second guess themselves on how they’re “heroes” considering they’re going about it shonen like and are peacocks about it, while Hamuko and SEES kind of have no choice in the matter (on top of not being recognized either). Or the ethical question on how they actually change the heart of their bad guys, did they really reform the person or did they force them? And other stuff relating to that.
Edit: Also how maybe hinting that if Hamuko hadn’t gone to Gekkou she would’ve been worse off than if she had gone (aka her living without the events of P3P is worse than her dying at the end of P3P, aka hint hint I might be foreshadowing another one of my “How I want Persona ___ to go” 8U)
Mechanics: Ok so it’ll basically be like PQ, fool arcana gets split up so everyone can use a secondary persona yada yada. The only difference is that I think there should be spell fusions (I have a very good reason for this, I won’t list it here but it’s a very good reason). Now how they go about the fusions depends, is it going to be like P2’s (or maybe like P3’s but with two people instead of one) and you can manually do it? Or will it be like P4G’s and it happens randomly. I kind of want the former but the latter would work fine (as long as they have a lot more combos, like everyone can have a different fusion spell with everybody).
Also Justine and Caroline will be in charge of the fusions (Igor isn’t there again btw), I think Caroline will do the fusions while Justine does whatever Marie’s job was (street passes). Theo and Liz have the same jobs as back in PQ. Margaret is here again, but she’s not the same as the one in PQ (she’s her P3P self), so the interactions between her, Theo and Liz will be different. Also the siblings interactions between the twins will be…..interesting. XD
Endings/story structure: Ok so this why I think we might need to have Aigis (and/or Pharos, but really Aigis). We could probably have 2 routes even if its’ only with fewer people on the P3P side, but we need some characters to bounce convos off of so that’s where Aigis comes in (other than her and Pharos having a special connection to Hamuko, Hamuko would need to be by herself for her to be pulled away, that place is probably her room, and Aigis and Pharos are the only two who would probably be in her room at that time…..cause Pharos does what he wants and Aigis would be taking care of you at that time. So yeah that’s why they’re the ones that would be there). Anyways we could have that. But I’m thinking more along the lines of having both MCs speak but having dialogue options that are similar to the ones Arena got (And P4D I think, anyways Yu had them and I know Kanji, Chie, and Yukiko had them as a way to get the gag endings, you chose and they just spoke the lines). And so because your choices matter maybe that leads to different endings, heck maybe we get two routes of the story (one being the Gnostic side and the other being the Egyptian side, depending on your choices up to that point), and then we get a true ending (where they’re mixed together) if you clear both story sides. 8U Or you still have the Gnostic/Egyptian routes, but it’s more connected to which MC you choose (like you play as Hamuko then you get the Egyptian route, you play as Akira you get the Gnostic route, you clear both then the true route is open to whichever MC you choose to play as only a few lines will be changed between playing as one or the other in the true route).
Dungeon: I’m thinking of having more dungeons in this game. Either be it more story dungeons (I know I did the 5 dungeon story structure up top but yeah) or just a lot of bonus dungeons. I think we should bring back Vision Quest (cause P3P is involved of course we should), be able to refight bosses but stronger, be able to fight PQ bosses but stronger. I think we should get the Group Date Café back as at least a mini dungeon (c’mon it was THE BEST part of PQ, and I know shippers are hungry for it).
And so yeah that’s basically all I have. I’m open to ideas. I hope Atlus does make this game (like legit just P3FeMC with P5 crossover is all I ask for). XD
Also here’s the spoiler Q and A post, feel free to ask questions I’ll answer them there.
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“...has Yosuke-senpai taught you about proper cell phone etiquette? Or why it is ill-advised to hand out your private number to strangers?”
"Hey, I just met you
And this is crazy
But here's my number
So call me maybe!"
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Sure, some of the female students were enamored by Naoto’s ‘boyish features’ and ‘mysterious charm’…
…but logically, and statistically speaking, it was the celebrity effect influencing their feelings. Fleeting emotions, never to turn into something genuine or meaningful.
#ic#Naoto#Case Closed! - Post P4 Verse#((mmmmmm and you know the mindset has effected her enough that if something genuine WERE to show up it’d just be fake as well#add that into the concoction of mental diseases this girl has))
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Naoto-sama, look forward to the many gifts our society has to offer you
Great. Wonderful.
What a thing to look forward to in the coming days. Can't you see the pure elation on her face?
#ic#Naoto#anon#Case Closed! - Post P4 Verse#((I EXPECT THE DETECTIVE CULT TO COME AND SHOWER HER WITH UNNECESSARY ATTENTION!!#you guys never fail to make sure she never forgets you guys xDD))
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we've accounted for the eye bags and have created our own special coffee blend called true and blue. only using the finest (and most caffeine heavy) beans, naoto-sama
How perceptive of them...
But just how and where have they acquired such high-quality beans to match the sincerely truthful state of the cult's beloved deity? It would not be uncalled for if they happened to have found more egregious methods of obtaining these imports. That's something to note for future research.
"Congratulations on graduating from home and stationary products to kitchen goods. I hope you enjoy creating your very own eye bags."
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“Good luck garnering their attention when you resort to begging. You seem to understand very little about how these worshippers work.”
"If you want someone who will be more appreciative of your efforts, I am right here!"
#ic#Naoto#justiceburst#Case Closed! - Post P4 Verse#Naoto VC: I apologize that was supposed to be an internal musing#((or was it...))
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" shirogane-san, can you not, um, sue these people for improper use of your face...? "
"No, there's no need to take such drastic measures when they have caused no physical harm upon me or damaged anything on my family's property. Fanatics are their own type of nuisance, but as long as they do not elevate themselves to white knight levels of devotion, spread defamations under my name, or say...send threatening messages, they are allowed to worship as they please."
That reminded her. She should double down on that restraining order soon before the winter months start.
#ic#Naoto#iiguess#Case Closed! - Post P4 Verse#((keep the peace and STOP BOTHERING HER then all should be well))
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we have a makeup kit inspired by naoto-sama and her dashing blue hues
That's lovely. Now many of her rabid passionate fans can truly immerse themselves into the Detective Prince's mindset by artificially creating their very own eyebags.
Wonderful work.
#ic#Naoto#anon#Case Closed! - Post P4 Verse#((if you are a TRUE fan of her you'll embrace the droopy eye bags))
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your parents deserved to die naoto
Ignore them ignore them ignore them-
The room remained silent as did the detective momentarily pausing in her daily morning procedures. An intense urge to provide a rebuttal surfaced, but Naoto repressed the strong impulse. It doesn't matter to her right now, not after the previous night's fiasco involving a premature confrontation. She only recovered from an internal bodily attack not long after, and its lingering after effects remained intact into the next day. An increased heartrate, shaky hands, increased anxious glances, it all spelled out an uncontrollable problem in need of her undivided attention.
This stranger's words held weight, but it only phased through the detective at the current moment. It wasn't the first time someone thought it amusing to inflict this kind of emotional damage on her, anyway. She was an orphan, but so what? Her brief repose ended in the detective resuming her amble walk towards the kitchen. Yakushiji insisted she join him for breakfast instead of keeping to herself in the study.
She swallowed hard, and accepted his offer.
#ic#Naoto#anon#Case Closed! - Post P4 Verse#((we are DOING OKAY TODAY!!#...maybe!!#....probably not!!))
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Thank god she does not use a fork and knife to eat most hand/finger foods anymore...
#ic#Naoto#Case Closed! - Post P4 Verse#((the fact she USED TO pains me immensely#imagine this scrunkly child eating a sandwich or pizza with a fork and knife#at least she grew out of that))
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Pranks Naoto by putting one of her featherman figure's backwards to see how long she notices it.
Everything had its place. And every item or piece of fan merchandise (not from that stupid detective cult) was positioned in just a way for Naoto to fully appreciate their value and craftsmanship. Some would call it a bit obsessively organized, especially if it was their first time seeing the detective's room layout. But Naoto found it satisfactory. That's most important.
What was not satisfactory, or acceptable to her high standards, was an out-of-place Featherman figure turned away from the others. This would not do. She never touched those priceless, rare figurines since each individual member was made to stand in their signature pose. They fit together, just like they always did in their show.
An immediate fix was in order. With careful hands, Naoto returned the figure into its original orientation. Blue Featherman returned. All was as it should be.
#ic#Naoto#anon#Case Closed! - Post P4 Verse#((yes she is THAT much of a nerd she recreated their poses))
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An official branded and certified Detective Prince Enthusiast pillowcase, with Naoto's face printed on it for the Holy One's Special Day
...it's gotten this worse...much worse...now with a horribly stretched-out JPEG of her face plastered on a pillow casing...
"...this one will be sorted into the miscellaneous pile." She handed Yakushiji the piece of merchandise, rather content to get it out of her hands and out of her sight.
#ic#Naoto#anon#Case Closed! - Post P4 Verse#Naoto's Birthday 2024#((just normal Chihiro birthday things#this is all fine))
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She’s never going to escape the cult, she’s never going to escape the cult, she’s never going to escape the cult, she’s never-
#ic#Naoto#Case Closed! - Post P4 Verse#((just normal Naoto birthday things#I love you very much detective cult anons <3))
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