#Carpe Jugulum
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"People as things, that's where it starts."
Carpe Jugulum (Discworld #23) - Terry Pratchett
Going Postal (Discworld #32) - Terry Pratchett
#i finished Going Postal last week#and i've been thinking about this A Lot#carpe jugulum#going postal#discworld#terry pratchett#words words words
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I want to be granny weatherwax when I grow up!
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carpe jugulum / small gods / lords and ladies / night watch
HERE AND NOW! HAPPY GLORIOUS 25TH!
#these are just some of my fave here and nows throughout discworld but it is a phrase that shows up in 60% of the books#and consistently knocks your socks off. i read the small gods one for the first time this year can you imagine#discworld#night watch#the glorious 25th of may#gnu terry pratchett#carpe jugulum#small gods#lords and ladies#how do they rise up
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love how so much of the first half of carpe jugulum is about how much granny weatherwax is so fucking loved, even if she doesn't think that it's so.
her absence in lancre is unthinkable—an aching presence in the story. magrat has named her child after her and wants her to be the baby's godmother. she, nanny, and agnes drop everything to go and find her. they're constantly asking themselves, "what would granny do in this situation?" and then answering the question just as seamlessly because they know granny. they know her iron will and her unbending resilience, the way she fights against the darkness every single day.
she haunts the narrative because she is so deeply interwoven into the DNA of lancre and its people.
she is lancre, really, the unshakeable rock that the community organizes itself around.
and even when she's not there, her legacy is still deeply felt, living and thriving in all the people she has ever touched.
#granny weatherwax#discworld#carpe jugulum#f: discworld#maggie blogs#the first half of cj is about lancre defining their relationship to granny#and the second half is about granny defining her relationship to herself#auhhghshjkkjad
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Something about Pratchett villains.
There's a lot of Pratchett villains who share one common thread: they're unromantic. They rip the charm and soul out of things.
Reach's service sends messages 'as warm and human as a thrown knife'. He himself 'kills people by numbers'.
Teatime is literally trying to kill Santa.
The Magpyrs turn the Gothic-vampire-novel style of the Old Count into industrial blood-harvesting.
Similarly, Wolfgang exchanges the traditional Game for just straight up killing people, and seeks to implement a werefascist regime to boot.
The Auditors are, by definition, made of unromantic. They are objectively unromantic.
And I think the idea of ripping apart the whimsy of things ties back to the idea of believing the little lies to believe the big ones. If you can't see charm and warmth, the dreams and imagination, you'll fall into what STP says is the biggest sin of all: treating people like objects.
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Vlad looked imploringly at Agnes, and reached out to her.
'You wouldn't let them kill me, would you? You wouldn't let them do this to me? We could have... we might... you wouldn't, would you?'
The crowd hesitated. This sounded like an important plea. A hundred pairs of eyes stared at Agnes.
She took his hand. I suppose we could work on him, said Perdita. But Agnes thought about Escrow, and the queues, and the children playing while they waited, and how evil might come animal sharp in the night, or greyly by day on a list...
'Vlad,' she said gently, looking deep into his eyes, 'I'd even hold their coats.'
granny weatherwax was such a buzzkill for not letting her tear him apart <\3
#discworld#terry pratchett#carpe jugulum#agnes nitt#begging screaming pleading on my knees guys read agnes’ books#maskerade and carpe jugulum are soooooo important to me#agnes is so real for the vampire bf plot line in this book#she’s like obviously i can’t be with him he’s like literally evil. buuuuuuuuuut#hearth art
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She would hate this phrasing but my faith in the Church of Granny Weatherwax is being revived by this latest reread of the witches books. Her exchanges with Mightily Oats are so vital.
#granny weatherwax#discworld#sin#don't treat people as things#it's harder than it sounds in practice#carpe jugulum
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"Why don't you just crawl back into your coffin and die, you slimy little maggot," Agnes said. It wasn't that good, but impromptu insults are seldom well crafted.
Terry Pratchett, Carpe Jugulum
#agnes nitt#carpe jugulum#discworld#terry pratchett#comeback#wit#insults#improvisation#conversation skills#clap back#seldom well crafted#impromptu
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“And sin, young man, is when you treat people like things. Including yourself. That’s what sin is.”
“It’s a lot more complicated than that –”
“No. It ain’t. When people say things are a lot more complicated than that, they means they’re getting worried that they won’t like the truth. People as things, that’s where it starts.”
“Oh, I’m sure there are worse crimes –”
“But they starts with thinking about people as things…”
(Granny Weatherwax, to Pastor Mightily Oats, Carpe Jugulum, Terry Pratchett.)
#gnu terry pratchett#granny weatherwax#esme weatherwax#mightily oats#carpe jugulum#pastor oats#sin's a difficult word for a lot of us but whatever the noun: yeah i think granny's absolutely right#people as things is where the rot kicks in for pretty much everything awful#and of course granny herself struggles a lot not to see other people as things so she knows how hard being decent can be#but she does it#all the time
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Vampires are not naturally co-operative creatures. It's not in their nature. Every other vampire is a rival for the next meal. In fact, the ideal situation for a vampire is a world in which every other vampire has been killed off and no one seriously believes in vampires any more. They are by nature as co-operative as sharks.
-- Terry Pratchett - Carpe Jugulum
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I love how much Nanny Ogg bullies Agnes about being a boring virgin, while also being glad she’s The Maiden to round up the little group.
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thinking about the relationship between mightily oats' "the worthwhile [words] don't burn" and constable dorfl's "the words in the heart cannot be taken"
#especially the journey both of them had to go through to get to the point of saying that. like the whole of carpe jugulum oats was so TORN#and before that too about what words could you believe and who could you really trust on their word about om and the prophets and he went#out of his way to look up records disproving what the book of om said bc he KNEW nothing they said could be believed and just all the pain#and all that doubt he went thru and the part where he questioned om's 'infinite compassion' as he prayed bc really what compassion?#how many people prayed at the stake just like he was doing in that moment? how many people had to live with the silence of their god just#like he did? but still when his book of om – that he clung to the whole book for reassurance – burned he said the worthily words don't burn#the worthily words are in the heart and in the mind and not feed into his mouth by old man who just#made things up to justify their actions. he had all the words he needded the whole time and holiness was always all around him. he just had#to look#and dorfl being created with words in his head that dictated his every move . words that chained him. then he and the other golems created#'king' for themselves in the hope he'd lead them to freedom but they put too many words in his head and he failed and carrot gave dorfl his#own freedom and his own words and that lead to dorfl destroying his well child basically and destroying himself in the process but the word#in his heart his OWN words remained and they were able to rebuilt him and vimes give him a voice and his words and belief remained in him b#they were always his#god. sorry for the ramble im severally unwell about them#mightily oats#constable dorfl#carpe jugulum#feet of clay#gnu terry pratchett#discworld
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Carpe Jugulum, Terry Pratchett
"end it in hemp"
fuck, when Pratchett gets dark, he gets real Dark
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CASSANUNDA THE DWARF
NOT Cassanova
Cassanunda
Not Cassan-OVER
But Cassan-UNDER
Cuz he's a DWARF
#DAMMIT PTERRY#gnu terry pratchett#discworld#carpe jugulum#a pune or play on words#i had to stop reading the damn book and post this. Dammit pterry!
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