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bijoumikhawal · 2 years ago

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Update on the mamluk coat that caught my attention because there's an extant cotton fragment with the same pattern: I am growing increasingly convinced that it's related to the terlig after remembering it has a similar appearance to a Chinese garment I saw (tieli), and poking at sources they mention wearing of "Tatar coats" (in sources that seem to be using Tatar and Mongol a bit interchangeably) but come shirt of actually saying "yes, the fact that this is a cross front garment sometimes depicted with a voluminous skirt and shown on horse riders that appears close to a time where Mongolian culture was a player in the region means it might be related to this" which I don't think is admissible enough for me to edit the Wikipedia article on it even if I say it's only a possible connection

#Cipher talk #Part of this might be that 1958's Mamluk costume is of the contention that the Tatar coat was banned? And that we don't have surviving #Depictions?#But there was continued cultural exchange and contact with Tatars and Mongolians past that even just because.#The Ilkhante continued to exist after the 13th century into the early 14th #And the Timurids continued many elements of Mongolian dress from then #But looking at that folio and the garment and related garments like the Jama they definitely look related #I understand looks can be deciving but given there was Mongolian influence in that era (you can tell basically just by looking at the #Artstyle) it seems VERY likely

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