#But everyone always burns out at the empathy arc and like. Valid. It's a pretty big tangent and thus hard to keep motivation through
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phoenixcatch7 · 6 months ago
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Literally all I want right now is a mdzs anime (donghua?) watching the series fic that reaches the start of the sun shot campaign PURELY so the juniors can see their kind and mischievous trophy husband Wei ying suddenly hair down tits out feeding his torturer his own fingers and proceeding to rack up the highest kill count of pretty much everyone while lwj looks ready to cry. I want them to know who the yiling patriarch is.
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knightofbalance-13 · 7 years ago
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You Failed
http://dudeblade.tumblr.com/post/163494770805/how-i-would-try-to-make-jaune-less-divisive
Like, epicly
Have. Someone. Call. Him. Out. On. His. Bullshit.
What? N-no! Jaune isn’t even that divisive anymore! he stopped being that way after Volume 3. The only people still attacking him are RWDE posters and spoiler: You guys don’t count due to the absolutely asinine reasons you come up with to attack people with. And, what bullshit? He hasn’t even done anything like that!
Like seriously, there are characters who have had it WAY WORSE THAN JAUNE but we’re supposed to sympathize with the scrawny blond kid?
Shake him up a bit.
Didn’t the white trailer begin with: "everyone is entitled to their own sorrow, for the heart has no metric or form of measure. And all of it... irreplaceable"
Look, by the looks of it, the writers are trying to make Jaune the sympathetic one here, but that falls apart when he says that he’s “Tired of losing people.” in front of a person who has seen three people die right in front of her, has lost her mother, has had her team forcibly torn apart, had to leave her crippled and emotionally damaged sister behind, and has been given this weird destiny/power thing that basically means that she has the burden of trying to save the world. He’s also saying it in front of two ORPHANS.
Jauane also watched Penny die, Jaune watched Amber die, Jaune lost Pyrrha, the one person who ever believed in him, and at that time, saw a childhood memory of his being burned to the ground and their one chance of making it to Mistral fast destroyed. Yeah, I think he’s allowed some time to complain, especially since that’s the only time he does it.
Yeah, and Ruby has her family whereas Jaune’s never believed in him which incredibly crushing. Her sister is in the care of her father and she CHOOSE to leave, Ruby barely knew her mother, Jaune lost an important part of his team and unlike Weiss Blake and Yang, Pyrrha’s never coming back and Jaune is following her son he falls under that category as well.
And Ren and Nora have each other: Jaune has no one to lean on but himself. In these circumstances: Jaune has no one.
And you do realize you can be sympathetic towards more than one person in a show right? I-it’s just common sense here: they're ALL suppose to be sympathetic.
Jaune. The guy who still has both parents, seven sisters, and still has had enough money to be able to buy an unhealthy cereal, is tired of losing people.
You know Dudeblade, by that logic, Yang, Weiss and Blake cant be sympathetic as none of them have really lost anything by YOUR standards either. Might want to watch you say: Your words have a habit of biting you in the ass.
Now, if someone were to call him out on his attitude, that could shake him up. It could lead to better character development that would make Jaune MORE of an audience surrogate. Because I don’t want the guy representing ME to be bemoaning the senseless loss of life in front of people who each have a dead mom.
Dudeblade, you AREN’T the audience: You do not represent the audience as a whole. You do not even share this type of opinion with 1% of the audience: you just want everything to go your way: Evident by the fact that you think RT should Pander to you. News flash: they never will.
This is also why I want Pyrrha’s mom to NOT be okay with Jaune’s upgrade. Let me give an example that I read somewhere as to why this is actually insensitive.
No, dudeblade. the reason why you want Pyrrha’s mom to call him out is because you have a self admitted bias against male characters and within that, you have a bias against Jaune. You want him called out to feel validated by your feelings s you can keep going.
Action 1. Let/s say that your Significant Other died, so you wear her ring around your neck ala Nathan Drake to honor their memory. That/s one thing. That is actually respectful.
Action 2. But now let’s say that you melt it to be part of a pin or something. That ISN’T respectful. It just means that your other’s ring (and by extension, your Significant Other), were nothing more than an accessory to you.
Since what Jaune did was more akin to Action 2, I doubt that Pyrrha’s mother would be in ANY way okay with what he did.
Action 3: you melt the pin down and intergrate it into your family heirloom so that your Significant Other will always be a part of your family and will always be protecting them, just as they protected you. 
That is a great form of respect: Showing that jaune considered Pyrrha like family to him and wanted her to be a part of his family so he integrated her armor into his family heirlooms, which are inherited by a Great War Survivior meaning she is now also considered equal to Jaune’s inspiration to become a Huntsman.
But of course, you have to take the one that makes Jaune look bad.
Look, I’m not going to deny that Jaune has his moments, and that he’s not supposed to be a bad person, but the way he’s being written is pretty disgraceful. If the writers want people to stop bashing on Jaune, then they should stop making him the one in the right when he really isn’t. Jaune’s line of being tired of losing people would have carried more weight to it if he had personally lost more than just Pyrrha.
Jaune has been in the wrong before: Like with Qrow, were they are both in the wrong. Or in Kuroyuri where he was in the wrong for ignoring Ruby. Or in jaundice where he was in the wrong for not taking Pyrrha’s advice. Or in the Dance Arc where he is treated as immature and had to let go. In fact...I think jaune has been in the wrongt more times than any of the main girls.
You don’t want Jaune to be written in the wrong more; you JUST want Jaune written in the wrong. Dudeblade, you have literally said that you wanted Jaune to die a horrible death and never be mentioned again: No one should listen what you have to say about Jaune. Or any male characters. Or female characters. Hell, about RWBY at all.
But he didn’t. He hasn’t.
Meaning that line comes off as more insensitive than depressing.
You’d be the type of person to tell Shinji to shut up and get in the robot because Guts has suffered more: You are almost completely lacking in empathy.
The only one being insensitive here is you for saying that someone isn’t allowed to mourn or be frustrated at life for kicking them down because other people have had it worse, while ignoring all but the basic factors in their complaining to make them look more pathetic.
Now, if any of the OTHERS had said it, it would have carried more weight to it, but none of them DID say it.
No it wouldn’t. They were all being sad, jaune was just the only one vocalizing it. You just say that because Jaune said it. for no other reason than “it’s Jaune.”
It was Jaune.
The guy who doesn’t feel at all obligated to send what remains of Pyrrha to her mother, who is likely distraught over what happened.
And who has literally every other possession of Pyrrha’s, ranging from other pieces of her armor to her trophies to her pictures to her baby clothes and shoes and so on. You act like Jaune has everything of Pyrrha’s when that is literally the opposite of the situation: That is the only thing of Pyrrha’s that he has and making her mom demand it back just makes her mom look like a narcissist for demanding two things from a guy that is also mourning Pyrrha because he isn’t her.
So have Jaune realize what a good life he’s had compared to the others. Have him realize that his life was easy compared to the likes of Ren, Nora, Weiss, or even Emerald.
Have someone call him out on his attitude, because Yang and Tai have had it worse than Jaune. Ruby has had it worse than Jaune. And even though she was revealed to basically be the princess of Furry Australia, even BLAKE has had it worse than Jaune. Shake him up a bit (or a lot), and get him to change his attitude. Because at the rate he’s going, he’d probably throw a pity party for himself if he were to stub his toe, and claim that it was worse than when Yang lost her freaking arm!
Ren and Nora have always had each other and always have each other to rely upon and know that someone will believe in them and someone will love them.
Weiss has never had the illusion of her family believing in her and still has her team.
Emerald...is a god damn mass murderer, stop defending these people!
Yang can replace her arm, already has a mother, can punch Raven in the face and move on.
Blake can take back the White Fang.
The only two people in that sentence who are even comparable to Jaune in this situation is Ruby and Taiyang because Ruby was there when Pyrrha died and Taiyang has lost a team mate/emotional support. But both of them take into practice the words from the White Trailer and don’t try belittling someone else’s pain and sorrow.
At this rate: jaune could lose all but one arm, watch his teammates die in an extremely brutal fashion, be tortured, blinded by his eyes being gouged and his tounge removed and be the last surviving human on the planet and you’d tell him to shut up. Because in your eyes, jaune is always in the wrong. 
Well guess what? Hes not, what you said is not gonna happen and you’ll be stuck in your hate forever. Have fun.
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