#Because of course if it's a matter where someone was flasely acussing them online and they said what actually happened to defend

[swordalt]

I hope this teaches the fandom that woman are Human and humans lie, and "believe the victim" is just a thin veiled way to tell people to believe strangers on the internet.

(I also saw you talking about the r/dwt2, I just wanted to highlight that most people on there aren't a stan, I myself I'm in there because is a good place to debate, most of the posts there are not really about dream lol)

Okay I do want an acknowledge quickly that yes not everyone on the r/dreamwastaken2 are stans. I do see that even people on the subreddit are complaining that some members are using any issue in the fandom to like justify hating the QSMP so it is fair to say all other people just stuck in between a few bad eggs.

Now this next part I'm gonna say what the most sensitivity as I can as a victim of SA myself. I understand why we want to believe all victims I get it a lot of us are victims ourself.

Even when we were telling the truth it might have been hard to get people to believe us, we know what it felt like to not have that support and we want to give that support back to others.

So when someone comes and say they're a victim, we tend to project a lot of our trauma onto it and go immediately get defensive.

Keeping that in mind I understand why people want to just automatically believe the victim but people take advantage of that, Were in an age were People will do anything to defend their traumatic experiences.

which they have all right to but in doing so our own emotions are our trauma are being used against us. this is the 3rd time in the past 2 years that I've heard of a victim actually being the abuser, twice is which the actual victim was ace.

In my opinion I don't think we should automatically jump to just immediately believing whatever the victim says and then as a result attacking people and it's okay for people to go back and look and decide if they wanna believe the victim but I don't think we should immediately jump to death threats and harassment, especially When you might actually just ruin the career of the complete innocent person.

I think of creators like

Spector theory

Kwite

Gus Johnson (who I didn't even know wasn't as guilty as she made him seem untill like 5 months after it happened)

And now adding Cellbit tô that list, And I'm sure just like these people still get shit from people who don't believe them and think any attempt to defend themselves was them "silencing the victim" I'm sure Cellbit is getting his fair share of it too.

The truth is it's not gonna happen like this, it's gonna take at least 3 more years of people being falsely accused and proven themselves to be innocent before the internet finally gets the lesson.

I get that in the past when the movement originally started it was much more difficult for those issues to be taken seriously by police and there was much less chance for people to like actually be believed. back then we just attack them call them liars come ask about what they were wearing.

And yes that still happens now but it happens so much smaller scale, I'm not saying that we should attack any victims either, Just that it's OK to look at the evidence with the critical eye then let law enforcement handle it.