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Scratch is Lillith Evidence
I've kind of accepted this as canon but I havent really seen anyone compile all the evidences so uh here for anyone curious
Kayne first references her in Part 20 which does reveal that Lillith exists in Malevolent:
In part 37, when John, Arthur and Oscar are exploring the barn, John sees a painting of a woman with pale skin and dark hair and seems to go into a kind of trance when he looks at her (which. Gestures. Lillith. Gestures. Succubus-y powers. Gestures)
Later when they open the gateway in Part 38, Scratch merges with a woman who looks exactly like the one in the painting and she's described as having "alabaster skin", aka world's most highly specific descriptor, which also happens to the same description used in the Lillith entry in the Malleus Monstorum for CoC seventh edition (BIG THANKS TO @/unsafewaters for sending the images to me)
And then in Intermezzo, Kayne directly mentions having a daughter and claims that she would "love" Arthur which could tie back to him being Her Favourite. Also I don't like using evidence that isn't in the source material but in the post season 4 QnA, when Harlan's reading out the notes he wrote for Intermezzo, one of the things he reads out is the daughter line, which implies it was important enough to mention (and wasn't just a throwaway joke)
And last but not least, Yorick mentions that Scratch/Owlexander/the entity watching them is close in power to Kayne which would make sense if he created her
Also earlier in the episode, Yorick implied Scratch may be working against Kayne specifically which does imply they have a pre existing relationship which would make sense if she was Lillith:
Extra evidence: In the fake Edward Willaim Allan's journal, he has an entry where talks about how, despite the fact he distrusts his "dream dweller" (who we know is Scratch pre fracturing), something about them still fills him with awe and he feels oddly seduces by them:
Which is likely Lillith using her powers to influence him and make him easier to manipulate (since it's heavily implied, if not basically explicitly stated, she was using him to open a gateway for her to enter the world)
Also! Semi unrelated but while I have your attention and talking about theories! I just wanna highlight a minor theory of mine that there's a high chance Kayne trapped Lillith in some kind of pocket dimension or prison of sorts because the prison line (from the second to last screenshot in this post) feels like foreshadowing and I find it odd that if she supposedly is close to him in power, she would need a humans help to travel through worlds (Also, she's framed as getting "freed" in part 38 when they do eventually open the gateway which leads to the question: free from what?) so that's something to consider
#TELL ME IF I MISSED ANYTHING GEN. I WILL ADD IT#lillith malevolent#lilith malevolent#malevolent#malevolent podcast#scratch malevolent#spoilers#????#BTW PROPS TO ME FOR SUCCESSFULLY HOLDING BACK THE URGE TO DERAIL THE WHOLE POST TO MAKE IY ABOUT PIPE DREAM π#<- every time i remember fake Edward Willaim Allan ks like. a real malevolent character (who canonically is implied to have been sedcued by#lillith) and not my little self indulgent guy who i made up and added to malevolent lore. i feel insane#<- I MEAN? I DO LIKE. MAKE SOME SHIT UP ABOUT HIM BUT LIKE?? I GET SURPRISED WJEN I REMEMBER OH SHIT. THEY JUST. CANONICALLY HAD A#RELATIONSHIP OF SORTS??? LIKE? SURE WE DONT KNOW IF IT WAS PLATONIC. PURELY TRANSACTIONAL . SEXUSL OR ROMANTIC. BUT THEY LIKE. CANONICALLY#HAD A SEMI RELEVANT DYNAMIC AND RELATIONSHIP BECAUSE IT LITERALLY LED TO HER GETTING FRACTURED. like wow thats canon i didng make that up#wdym my rarepair has plot relevance and is supported by the text (so far). i feel insane. OKAY ANYWAYS. WAY TO DERAIL THE POST IN MY TAGS π#txt#malevolent theory#<- forgot that one oops
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