#BROOO THIS IS GOING SO FIRE AAA

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I'm SOOOO happy to hear you're enjoying it!! Especially when I get to braintorm it with you all! Your input is truly getting me to think of stuff I usually wouldn't on my own!

The Kanon part:

IF Inkay's typing were water, you know FOR SURE he would be using one as well. But alas (plus, it'd overlap with Shaka's team). I have this scene in mind that Kanon reveals his true intentions, with PC arriving too late to stop him and he has already defeated some of the friendly rivals (probably to grab his hands in the legendary Kubfu). The scene would just cement the math you've pointed out!

I should get around to designing Kanon, I can see their team fits being all about deep divers' suits.

Hmmmm I can also see the Poseidon's debacle being cut short by the 5th-6th gym badge, likely the marines are forced to withdraw. BC they somehow got wind of Hades' schemes, Kanon being the only one who doesn't really pull out of the action.

Underground tunnels + Hades:

Maybe some tunnels and rock formations were natural, and then it was expanded according to the head of the Hades’ organization so that smaller caves could tie to others (and so the city to city connection was made). This might had the side effect of creating the perfect place for those kinds of Pokémon to live in. Later on, they became the signature of the organization, like deep water Pokémon’s are for the Marinas :0

THIS THIS!!

In ND these tunnels could be like really short, don't have a whole lot to offer. And most species that would be found are either around the natural formations, some rock or ground types (bat pokemon too). And by Classic's settings, there are so many more species, a lot of urban-related pokemon species too (Grimer, Koffing, Ghastly, etc). Showing how there has definetely been a lot of activities down there all this time.

Still within the story mode, I imagine that Hades finally makes his move and strikes (I'd say that somewhere around the time PC gets the 8th badge). And OFC there is a radio station raid, and the other cities also being overrun by Hades' goons (maybe PC can fly to other cities and see the state they are all in, and get to talk to leaders who are trying to fend them off [even DM is actually doing his job] *insert here the possibility of PC getting to do a few double battles alongside the gym leaders, thus getting to see a bit of their actual teams* [Shaka is definetely one that will do this, since he's literally in the storm's eye]).

After the Alone (vs) Sasha conflict, they really had to step up their game once again. In the end, just like for the StS original series, power struggle is THE most notable trait (in this case, of the region).

I like that we managed to translate that key detail about the series here.

Commentary less gooooo:

RAKI OMEGA'S CATCHING TUTORIAL NPC BABY <333. She's making Kiki proud, even tho she bullies the snail baby dragon;

Shaka pulling out the Ukulele Youtuber apology video, and his Malamar is standing beside him the entire time. Shaka is weally sowwy for covering Saga's trails;

AND YET, when the time comes for him to talk about his inevitable defeat. He just stays quiet, barely touches on the subject "it was a fair fight" returns to roasting everyone else;

And you BET Saori also does that for the Omega's setting (and since there things go awry, I guess you can say she has a bit of a rotten hand to pick things);

Guard dog pokemon puppy for daycare owner Alde... <3 Maybe he could get his hands in one, once he no longer is a gym leader. The pup wouldn't be used for battles, and would be mostly a bystanding NPC that PC can interact with (adds flavor to the day care).

Rivals time

Regarding the last one, did some of the bronze have the same treatment?

HMMMMM OHHH THAT'S SUCH A GOOD IDEA. I can definetely see that!

In my mind, the PC would either be native to Sanctuary OR recently moved there (a la RSE style) with their older sister;

Shiryu could be introduced in the very first route, not long after acquiring the starter. He definetely would have ties to Dohko, probably an apprentice alongside with Genbu (it's like Shiryu has another rival of his own, both are striving to become the next gym leader. Genbu would only really be relevant for Omega's setting as to not make it too convoluted). So, the rivalry with PC would be Shiryu really trying to push himself far and beyond;

For context since you still haven't watched Omega: We are introduced to Genbu, he was another one of Dohko's pupils. However, unlike Shiryu he never took his training serious when he was young and lacked the huge aspiritions like Shiryu. But, given the circumstances he is forced to take on the Libra saint role temporarily. And the entire time, he carries an immense guilt for not giving ears to Dohko.

First time meeting Shun could be in the Pokemon school establishment, in the neighbor town. Probably the NPC that hands out the map Key item or the Pokegear (First one to be registered in PC's contact list). He is probably the 2nd trainer to use a starter pokemon, one that would be weak to PC's choice (Bianca style). Maybe throughout the story he could be running into Hades multiple times, often being offered the opportunity to have his League challenge sponsored by him;

First contact with Hyoga could be on the way to fight against the first gym leader, he could have acquired his a lot sooner than PC does. Hyoga could definetely present himself being quite antagonistic to PC from the get-go. Maybe PC learns that Camus is the one that brought him to Sanctuary, so your idea could definetely fit him like a glove;

Ikki would be the last one that PC meets, probably sees him passing by in one of the routes and the first battle is right after the 1st gym badge (I can also see him pulling the Silver move of stealing the starter pokemon, which has advantage over PC's choice). And his rivalry debacle would most likely extend to Post-game.

Shion talk:

On the subject of Shion-

I feel like Shion for sure would be clueless like most people about what's going on, since his focus would be entirely on his research. Even if said research means it's putting a target on his back. And in the classic events, he would be especially vulnerable, since he no longer has Mu available as his assistant. And I like to think that most of his strong champion/gym leader time pokemon are way out of their prime, for battles.

Was his research the only reason for this or there is more going on?

I like to think that Shion wasn't as passionate about battles, as others were. Sure, he had Dohko to keep pushing him to show his true skills in battle, and he has shown to be really good at it. He would much rather study and take the backseat, rather than being in the middle of the heat. Maybe after ND's events, it cemented that idea in his mind.

On a small tangent: I haven't thought of an ace pokemon for him, BUT following the pattern established by Mu and Kiki, it would likely have to be Salamence/Hydreigon/Kommo-o or Garchomp (3 stage evolution, pseudo-legendary pokemon).

OH BOY I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE YOUR COMMENTARY <333 If you need me to slow down or something like that, just LMK!!! I tend to get hyped up and tend to go overboard SO fast!!

anyway obligatory silly image

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StS x Pokemon AU brainstorming stuff

Now I'll have to publicly share some flow of thoughts rambles, I've been accumulating for an year now.

Bless @ectogusher for listening to my rambles, and @doodlingwren for busting my door open to finally share what I got.

Excuse me as I talk in my notes as if these things were like a guide/romhack shit

All under read more bc it gets long c:

Here's the main skeleton of this whole deal-

Sanctuary = Its own region. No new fakemons, but it's a sizeable piece of land that has gathered up a wide variety of various species found across the globe. This worldwide thing also influences the type of trainers and people from all over the world going there. If we were to touch on the subject of game mechanics: There would be most of them (Mega evolutions, terastalise, Dynamax even Paradox pokemon forms) further showing how mysterious and mythical this region is.

PC - Seiya / Shoko Rivals - Seiya -> The other bronze boys / Shoko ->The other saintias

With Ikki being the Silver-esque type of rival, meanwhile Shiryu/Hyoga/Shun all follow the same line of friendly rival archetype. I still haven't thought that far on the Shoko route.

Other prominent NPCs:

Professor Shion: Former gym leader, he was once offered the champion title but refused it. Claiming that his passion was in research and studies, rather than the battlefield. Due to stepping down from battles, his friendship/relationship with Dohko has strained over time. Shion is the one who brought Mu to Sanctuary down the line.

Schoolkid Kiki: Catching Tutorial NPC. He can be usually found at the Pokemon School in Mu's city. He will inherit Mu's mantle down the line. The pokemon he uses in the tutorial is a Noibat;

League Chairwoman Saori Kido - With Julien Solo and Hades coming in as other seemingly "investors" on the project

Gym leaders: Most of these guys' aces aren't fully evolved, bc they chose to keep them like that. Yadda yadda friendship boosting their favorites.

Mu: Sinnoh - Dragon - Dragonair

Aldebaran: Hoenn - Ground - Rhydon

Saga/Kanon: Alola - Water - Gyarados (Saga)/Kingdra (Kanon)

Deathmask: Kalos - Dark - Murkrow

Aiolia: Sanctuary (native) - Electric - Electabuzz

Shaka: Kanto - Psychic - Alakazam

Dohko: Johto - Fighting - Mienshao

Milo: Unova - Bug - Volcarona

Elite fours:

Aiolos: Sanctuary - Fire - Charizard

Shura: Galar - Steel - Metagross

Camus: Sinnoh - Ice - ? (Either Froslass or Glaceon)

Aphrodite: Paldea - Poison - Roserade

Champion - ??? (the plot twist is that: the PC wouldn't fight the 3rd gym leader, bc Saga was pretending to be the champion. When he really wasn't chosen or appointed to that position)

Evil organisations: They definetely do exist, and they are obviously tied to the aforementioned Julien and Hades figures. But I still haven't thought that far.

Worldbuilding notes:

Muvians are similar to draconids (introduced in ORAS), a small tribe that originates from Sinnoh and has some deep connections and bonds to dragon types. Which means, any muvian = dragon type specialist or in the very least owns one. Muvians are also meant to have a foot in aura sensitivity (see characters like Lucario, Riley, etc.);

Sanctuary's League has a rampant corruption problem, as seen by what I mentioned about Saga. The two evil organisations are basically being pitched against one another, as smokescreen for the real problem. Their current champ is this sort of "elusive" figure. There hasn't been a proper champion in a long time. And yet, according to paperwork and the system, it states that the role is currently filled by someone. Anyone that isn't tied to Saga's schemes is left in the shadows, even those that allegedly should be the closest to him (Aiolos for SURE has no clue of what's going on. He's probably hiding or declared missing in action during the events, and only shows up when the time comes to challenge the E4).

There's a small timeline:

ND folks (a good few years into the past) -> Classic folks -> Omega folks (+20 years into the future)

In ND's setting we see how odd and hapharzadly the League was instated in the region. Which sets up the perfect grounds for Saga to exploit down the line;

Shion and Dohko are recently turned gym leader here. Mu comes onto the picture a good few years after ND's events; In a way, since Tenma would be the PC here and Alone his rival. It could be the Red vs Blue type of ordeal.

In Omega we'd see how the League is trying to remedy its reputation & amend for Saga's schemes, with an entirely new set of gym leaders and League members. + Former league members can still be found and fought in the post game, Silver/Gold style.

Individual notes:

Mu - Obligatory pokemon Aldemu food

Mu used to own a Gible and Alde once owned a Trapinch, at some point they traded pokemon. So now, Alde has a Garchomp in his personal team and Mu has a Flygon;

Mu's battle team against young trainers has a Swablu, which is used as a messenger to carry mail exchanges between him and Alde;

Mu LOVES pokemon dolls and has a huge collection of it. In the post-game: PC can find Mu and Alde on a date at the region's big mall, with them looking at a shop's display window. Mu gets mad at PC for ruining his date, but would give out his pokegear number;

Aldebaran -

Aldebaran gym's city is also where the pokemon day-care can be found. He may not run it, but he often helps out the elderly couple currently in charge of it;

In the post-game: After adding Mu's re-match call number. Alde can ba found on the route between his and Mu's towns, he was on his way to take a meal for him, and he also shares with PC that they bought the doll in the end

Saga/Kanon -

PC doesn't really get to fight for the 3rd gym badge. Rather, it's simply handed out by Kanon, who approaches them to talk about how the leader hasn't been seen in so long;

Saga's "fall from grace" comes from a humiliating match against Aiolos, originally fighting for the E4 member promotion which he lost. Despite the clear type advantage;

It's left implied that these two were meant to be gym leaders, the matches would have been double battles.

Deathmask -

DM gym's city houses a Game corner (Casino) and a contest hall. First sighting of an E4 member is Aphrodite, who introduces PC to them;

DM is a sore loser AND has no qualms with cheating against his challengers, if it means he gets to maintain his "streak". In the battle against PC he would use an overleveled Crawdaunt;

In the post-game: PC will get a hint from Shaka's radio talkshow mentioning DM's whereabouts, in the city's underground game corner;

DM's strength is everything philosophy = DM's entire personal team consists of very strong dark types with some form of 4x weakness;

DM is well in kahoots with Saga's schemes;

Aiolia - TBA I haven't thought anything for him c':

Shaka -

Shaka gym's city is meant to be the largest and the most advanced one (Saffron and Goldenrod cities style), it has the region's largest shop for expensive and important items. It also has a radio tower, which broadcasts various programs (professor talk, loterry ticket, poke flute, etc), Shaka hosts a talk show where he commentates on PC's progress, all while actively putting down/poking fun at his defeated colleagues. Under specific time slots, he will have a guest join him, which will be an exchange between the various league's members. But the most important one is where he will be joined by the region's "champion";

Shaka is a fan-favorite across several trainers in the region, with many NPCs commentating how much they love tuning in to hear him talk & so on;

Shaka is also well known for his psychci prowess (Sabrina style);

Shaka is also deeply involved in Saga's schemes;

Dohko -

Dohko gym's city also houses the pokéathlon. With Dohko going undefeated in all the challenges, until PC comes along;

Post-game: to get Dohko's number for rematches. PC has to visit Shion after obtaining a certain number of species then, take a mail key item to Dohko. And THEN they get Dohko's number. it's a love letter, an invitation for some tea at noon

Milo - TBA I haven't thought anything for him c':

And "unfortunately", that's all I got x)

I suppose this is a lot better than trying to find all my notes scattered around all over the place. Hope it makes sense or that in the very least, it's fun to read through.

RN I focused on the classic folks bc it's the one I've been working and thinking of for the longest time.