#Avengers4 spoilers

[stanytork]

my favorite Marvel characters (MCU’s version)

the man in a cap tracks who I truly love and buries ‘em

[cliffather]

May 7, 2018

Realize the "H" in THANOS was : Tesseract. Heart. Aether. Necklace. Orb. Scepter. #movie #Spoilers

[allofthefeelings]

Concept: Morgan has a big imagination, just like her dad, so Pepper doesn’t think much about her new game of “playing dragon” until she finds the scorched patches in the garden.

It turns out Tony’s method of "dealing with all the symptoms of Extremis” was not quite the same as “and you definitely won’t pass it on to our child.”

Tony is delighted. Pepper said Morgan’s not allowed to use a blowtorch until she’s at least ten, but now he can get her starting on welding way earlier.

[iceman-maverick]

[89cxrdigan]

the first and last hug, im crying

[sixth-light]

OKAY FINE Endgame has been out for a few days now and I am overflowing with feelings which can't just be shared in ROT13 on Twitter. Major massive spoilers behind the cut, obvs, stop here if you're on mobile.

Spoiler-free overall summary: there were some big misses but mostly they hurt because so many of the big swings this movie took did connect, and as a very ambitious attempt to tie a bow on 11 years and 22 movies, it's...actually pretty good. It even makes me like Infinity War better in retrospect. 8/10, will see again in the theatre.

. . . .

STUFF I LIKED:

- The three hour running time is challenging to the bladder but gave the movie room to breathe and room to have the character interactions IW just didn't, and so many of them were note-perfect. Steve and Nat, Tony and Howard, Thor and Frigga, everybody hanging out at HQ doing research. All the family and found family stuff everybody complains isn't there. <3

- They really used the time-travel plot and Big Crossover Event opportunities in a way that was often fanservice but the good kind; the kind that gives you lovely unexpected conversations (Rhodey and Nebula, Tony and Nebula) and hilarious callbacks (the lift scene).

- Speaking of, THE LIFT SCENE, HOLY CRAP, we all shrieked so hard they probably heard it outside the theatre, and also the Cap vs Cap fight (yes, Steve, that IS America's ass) and in general everything about the 2012 time heist section was gold. And Cap with Mjolnir too, so good.

- The big final battle was about ten minutes too long BUT ALSO had the perfect encapsulation of the big two-page comic book epic spread you could want. The all-ladies shot was...look it was transparent and highlighted Nat not being there but also I am easily pleased.

- They whiffed the time travel stuff hard right at the end but leaving out the Steve Thing, there was some genuine attempt to think it through, at least enough for my satisfaction. It's not the perfect time travel plot but it's not entirely full of plot holes. And it left room for characters to not know things - they believed Strange had the Time Stone in 2012 because nobody left alive had any reason to think otherwise.

- Tony's arc felt complete and I cried over him TWICE which is a tall order for me, so well done everybody involved with that.

- Way more Sam than I had hoped for or expected. ON YOUR LEFT. SAM!CAP. I am kinda excited for the TV show now.

- The cold open with Hawkeye's family was genuinely well done (still should have been him and not Natasha though)

STUFF I DID NOT LIKE:

- Nat deserved better. The characterisation of why she made that choice was on point, but the movie should have done better by her (and DID, for the first half, right up until she went to the Planet of Fridging). Do Not Accept.

- The Steve thing breaks the time travel rules AND does a huge disservice to his growth and Peggy's. Some of the best parts of Agent Carter S1 were Peggy learning to move on; TWS, the best Steve movie, is about him forging connections and a family in the present. That all got erased, as sweet as the last scene was. Not to mention the implication that he sat by while Bucky got tortured for fifty years or more. I get Chris Evans wanted out but....

- ...the movie more or less set up that actors leaving the MCU = death for the characters, if they're major enough, which is bullshit and I hate it. Let people retire, FFS. Let them become offscreen mentions. Embrace the idea that superheroism doesn't mean until death. The alternate is so depressing.

- they almost told a really thoughtful story about Thor's PTSD from losing everything, then failing to stop Thanos, and then decided to make it about fat jokes instead. UGH. So close, so far. 

STUFF THAT WAS MEH:

- It's been said before but: fuck you Russos for thinking that doing the literal bare possible minimum in every sense to acknowledge queer people exist = representation. It's been TWENTY-TWO MOVIES. Do better.

- Paul Rudd is funny but that was a lot of time on a character who I find slight at best.

- You all know my feelings on Bucky and Steve/Bucky as a ship, but the character and the relationship - canonically hugely important to Steve - got shafted. One hug, Marvel, c'mon. One thirty-second meaningful conversation. C'MON. I don't even go here and I know you fucked up.

- P sure it didn't pass the Bechdel test, and in general not enough use of crossover to let women interact. LET WOMEN TALK TO EACH OTHER.

- Carol was very underutilised; I understand why but she better get her due in future movies and esp future crossover movies if any.

- The whole Hawkeye Goes Dark thing: blah. Blah.

[lovendrockets]

nat was like “i found my family here :)” like bro idk where u were but in every single movie the team has barely been able to be in the same room together for five minutes

[i-died-in-the-blip]

aND THE MUSIC THAT WAS PLAYING WHEN MY MAIN MAN BRUCE GAVE SCOTT TWO NEW TACOS WAS SO ??? LIKE IT CREATED SUCH A MOOD LIKE WHAT A HERO THAT BIG SWEET MAN GIVING LOST SCOTT TACOS AFTER HIS BLEW AWAY WHAT A SWEETIE IM NOT OKAY DONT TOUCH ME

[living-on-the-roof]

HOLY FUCK MAN

10/10 would watch and cry again

[allofthefeelings]

Okay but also consider: There were over fourteen million realities where the good guys lost.

Which means that easily one of those realities could be Sam coming in on the right, or Bucky leaving his hair down, or Shuri wearing Reeboks, and that one tiny change butterfly-effected into a loss.

Imagine Strange frantically passing out hair ties and telling T’Challa that no, he is absolutely wrong, his sister DOES need her shoes.

Those Nikes could have saved the world.

High Maintenance™️ heroes

[allofthefeelings]

Concept:

Yelena hates cats, but adopts Liho because post-Endgame she doesn’t trust any of Natasha’s friends to keep a plant alive, never mind a dependent animal.

She DEFINITELY does not cuddle the cat when she misses Natasha and she will kill you before you can even consider leaking the incriminating pictures you managed to take.

[iceman-maverick]

“happier” thoughts

DUM-E will never really understand what’s happened to Sir and where he went but now there’s Miss and she’s tiny and likes it when his arm twirls her around and always tries to drink the coffee he brings her even though Miss Potts yells and yells. DUM-E misses Sir but thinks things will work out fine with this tiny little Miss

[lovendrockets]

i think the worst thing abt steve peggy being real is that i didnt even think steve should of EVER met peggy in the future like that didnt make sense

[allofthefeelings]

I’m so glad that with Natasha, er, temporarily indisposed, Bucky is covering Morgan’s important education.

(Actually, the Winter Soldier having been forced to assist in brutally training young women to kill, while Bucky chooses to gently teach a young girl to defend herself, is beautiful character development, and I think a great way to reclaim both his agency and his humanity.)

Bucky: Okay Morgan, there are 206 bones in the body, but! I’m gonna teach you how to dislocate someone’s body in 230 ways—

Sam: Dude. She’s a kid.

Morgan:...

Bucky: Oh yeah! You’re right.

*turns around for a few seconds before turning back with puppets over his hands*

Bucky, in somewhat a Kermit the frog’s voice: Hi kids! We’re going to show you how to dislocate someone’s body! Let’s start with the Clavicle region. Do you know where that is?

Sam: oh my god.

[allofthefeelings]

What is the secret agreed-upon AO3 tag for “stories taking place inside the soul stone”?

Cause I tried searching Vormir but I’m not seeing much of what I want, including:

a horror story where everything inside the soul stone seems idyllic, except sometimes people have screaming nightmares that are actually memories of their past lives.

a heist story where Gamora orchestrates an escape from the soul stone with Natasha as her second in command

a story of indeterminate genre where Steve returns the soul stone to Vormir, and Natasha and Gamora both think the other should be the one who gets to live

something smart about how nearly everyone sent to the soul stone was loved but also seen as expendable and as a weakness by their loved ones, and what that does to a person, to know that someone you loved saw you as an object and saw you as less important than possessing cosmic power, and how Gamora and Natasha both upend that in different ways and how if they’re there for eternity, at least they can help make things better, one damaged soul at a time

Instead there’s an awful lot of “but imagine how sad it would be if it were the characters I cared about making this horrible decision” and some “Steve rescuing Natasha by returning the stone” but very little “revolution to freedom that upends what are apparently the misogynistic and ableist underpinnings of the MCU universe.” (I say ‘very little’ instead of ‘none’ because I haven’t gotten through the whole tag yet. I assume there’s some I haven’t seen!)

...I am aware it is December 2020 and I am still on my Endgame bullshit. I’m sorry. I just want more of this kind of closure and I feel bad always just extracting it from @sidewaystime.

[iceman-maverick]

steve literally opted out of being captain america once he saw tony die