#At least fuckin’ link or cite shit man

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dude where the fuck is your references, these are some BIG ass claims and you provided literally nothing.

you did not use proper citations, nor did you quote anything.

The links you’ve given lead to Wikipedia which like not a trusted source for these sorts of things, uneditable information and resources are more used as they are more reliable.

you included very wrong information and refused to back it up,

and as someone who loves history and has actually spoken to historians and loves oral history, this shit is despicable.

any self respecting historian would use proper citations and references, videos, transcripts, journals, and more!

but I see nothing here that is connected with a link of verifiable information, or a quote with a book page, or a video, interview or anything.

you are saying an opinion piece and presenting it like it is fact, if you cannot find the links or references to what you are referring to you probably made it up.

hell I see no links to holocaust museums which have teaching materials exactly for this, I see no links to maybe a newspaper article or something that may have influenced your opinion, I don’t see any documentary quotes or any oral history stuff.

all I see is a unsubstantiated claim, by someone who can’t even link things that aren’t Wikipedia.

Not to mention the Yiddish speakers, Jewish people and decedents of holocaust survivors who literally have talked about these things IN DETAIL and have called people out for this shit.

hell if you’d linked other tumblr accounts with their experiences and stuff I’d be less pissed. But you didn’t, you wrote an opinion piece and presented as fact.

be better!

Ok gotta talk about it.

As a Jewish historian, I fucking hate Israel in ways most probably will never be able to comprehend. I'm going to try and explain it anyways. The central creation myth of Israel is that it is Jewish, and then consequently, that Israel is a part of Jewishness. Its easy to simply state this is false, but fully comprehending this and putting it into practice in thought and deed seems rare to me.

The evil at the heart of this violence predates the recent acceleration of genocide. Israel is a colony, and more than that, an antisemitic fraud itself. After WW2, when Israel was being founded, the Jews of Europe generally did not wave goodbye to their neighbors and head to the promised land. Many were expelled from their homes. Zionism itself, as an action, was a false choice at the time. A mere excuse to place an ally in the middle east, and an excuse to complete the expulsion and destruction of the European Jew. The Zionist Jew is more than complicit in this, they actively seek the destruction and assimilation of all other Jews.

Many fail to realize, and largely because of Israel, that Jews are not inherently white, Ashkenazi, European-descended people. Our faith and culture has an immense variety that is spread all across the globe. Jewishness, in population and volume of culture, exists more so outside of Israel than within it. Israel is for a very specific kind of Jew. The kind that lets Yiddish die, that attaches themselves to European things, that makes themselves and their practices as white as possible.

And they have the nerve, the fucking belligerent GALL, to frame themselves as the necessary saviors of our people. To the Zionist, questioning Israel is to question Jewishness itself. They bake adoration for the colonial machine into their very prayers, and push them on us even as children. To *not* oppress, to *not* kill, to *not* genocide, is to invite death. This is the core of fascistic thought, of course. "Kill them before they kill us." And they KNOW this too, they really do. The truth of that irony does not matter, because as is true for all fascists, the truth itself does not matter to them. They wanted this, they wanted this even before the British saw it in their best interest to give them the land. Any excuse to RETVRN, as the neo-nazis say of Rome, or the German Empire, or whatever the fuck stupid country they want to poorly animate the corpse of. Some select Zionists even *sided with the fucking Nazis* in agreement they should abandon Europe to colonize Palestine. (Haavara Agreement)

My people have proved time and time and time again you don't need a nation state to have an enduring culture. We have protected ourselves for thousands of years without the help of these spiteful, doom-saying maniacs. I was going to post something like this on Passover, but that would be hypocritical. The state of Israel doesn't actually have shit to do with Jewishness. שְׁמַע יִשְׂרָאֵל יְה Vi tsu derleb ikh im shoyn tsu bagrobn. [my best translation] Hear Israel (beginning of a prayer in Hebrew) I should outlive him long enough to bury him. (an old Yiddish curse)

Free Palestine. Donate what you can, they need it right now.

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I have forgotten that I now have a medium for writing on the computer. I was just about to open up a new Notepad file and then I remembered I made a new tumblr.

Wonderful, isn’t it?

Here’s a question:

What is it about the sensitivity of touch screens that they (mostly. ok, man.) only respond to fingertips? I have a pair of gluvvies that have some shit on the the fingertips* that tickle the god damn screen in just the right way - so you can play with your phone while wearing gloves◘ . What is this fake skin shit made out of? Well, to borrow a catch phrase from my father, “I guess you could always look it up on the internet.” ¶

Help my fuck -

I was recently lookin’ into buying some BlooTooth speakers. I have a set of Bose [ad] desktop speakers that are wonderful, and I can plug my phone into it and listen to all of my favorite tunes on a prize-winning set. I thought, “yeah so why do I want this blootooth shit? Am I actually not ok with my phone being plugged into something that ain’t chargin’ it?

I play out a quick scene in my head: gettin’ hassled by some fuckin’ salesman at Circuit City or something:

sb - Bluetooth, huh? Oh, so it’s wireless. I’ve got some decent speakers already-

fuckin’ moron [fm]: But are they BlooTooth?

sb - Wireless? Bluetooth and wireless are the same thing, right?

NOTE: One common trait of fuckin’ morons is that they think they are smart. For example, this character has a clever answer to this question, which he thought of all by himself:

fm: All Bluetooth is wireless, but not all wireless is Bluetooth. Bluetooth is a special kind of wireless.

sb - [doesn’t seem excited about having Blootooth in his life]

fm: With these, you could play music from your phone without plugging it into the speakers. What if your doorbell rings? What if you have to take a shit?….with these, you can have the speakers playing music from your phone but you can still walk around with it.

Good grief, I don’t need that shit! [rhyme]

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Footnotes:

* Not all fingers on these gloves have the phone shit on them. It is only on the forefinger and thumb. Sure, (not realizing it until just now) those are the two main fingers used during phone time, but still…is this material so expensive that they gotta cut corners like that? It can’t be that expensive, because the fake skin layers have already worn off. That’s just fine, though, no problem at all, because the gloves  are fuckin’ great, fake fingertips or not.

◘ Of course it’s an inconvenience that should have a solution, but this is where we are. Still, there were enough people who refuse to choose [rhyme] between wearing gloves ¯  and playing on their phones.

¯ Gloves are very underrated, at least by me. I was averse to most cold weather gear until my late twenties, and I have no idea why, for not enough time has passed to give me that sweet sweet 20/20 hindsight vision. Now I’ll wear gloves even when it’s in the 40s ³ because I don’t have to….I’ve been walking around with my hands in my pockets for my entire life!

³ a supplementary link to a YooToob video

¶ am I really borrowing the quote if I’m citing the source? Well, I could use the wisdom presented in that quote to find out. Maybe later (probably not). But I think that if I had thought of and asked that question to any of my elementary school English teachers (high school English teachers, too, but in high school, English teachers taught literature. They didn’t give a fuck about grammar.), none of them would know the answer.

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I have forgotten that I now have a medium for writing on the computer. I was just about to open up a new Notepad file and then I remembered I made a new tumblr.

Wonderful, isn’t it?

Here’s a question: 

What is it about the sensitivity of touch screens that they (mostly. ok, man.) only respond to fingertips? I have a pair of gluvvies that have some shit on the the fingertips* that tickle the god damn screen in just the right way - so you can play with your phone while wearing gloves◘ . What is this fake skin shit made out of? Well, to borrow a catch phrase from my father, “I guess you could always look it up on the internet.” ¶

Help my fuck - 

I was recently lookin’ into buying some BlooTooth speakers. I have a set of Bose [ad] desktop speakers that are wonderful, and I can plug my phone into it and listen to all of my favorite tunes on a prize-winning set. I thought, “yeah so why do I want this blootooth shit? Am I actually not ok with my phone being plugged into something that ain’t chargin’ it? 

I play out a quick scene in my head: gettin’ hassled by some fuckin’ salesman at Circuit City or something:

sb - Bluetooth, huh? Oh, so it’s wireless. I’ve got some decent speakers already-

fuckin’ moron [fm]: But are they BlooTooth?

sb - Wireless? Bluetooth and wireless are the same thing, right?

NOTE: One common trait of fuckin’ morons is that they think they are smart. For example, this character has a clever answer to this question, which he thought of all by himself: 

fm: All Bluetooth is wireless, but not all wireless is Bluetooth. Bluetooth is a special kind of wireless.

sb - [doesn’t seem excited about having Blootooth in his life]

fm: With these, you could play music from your phone without plugging it into the speakers. What if your doorbell rings? What if you have to take a shit?....with these, you can have the speakers playing music from your phone but you can still walk around with it.

Good grief, I don’t need that shit! [rhyme]

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Footnotes:

* Not all fingers on these gloves have the phone shit on them. They are only on the forefinger and thumb. Sure, (not realizing it until just now) those are the two main fingers used during phone time, but still...is this material so expensive that they gotta cut corners like that? It can’t be that expensive, because the fake skin layers have already worn off. That’s just fine, though, no problem at all, because the gloves  are fuckin’ great, fake fingertips or not.

◘ Of course it’s an inconvenience that should have a solution, but this is where we are. Still, there were enough people who refuse to choose [rhyme] between wearing gloves ¯  and playing on their phones.

¯ Gloves are very underrated, at least by me. I was averse to most cold weather gear until my late twenties, and I have no idea why, for not enough time has passed to give me that sweet sweet 20/20 hindsight vision. Now I’ll wear gloves even when it’s in the 40s ³ because I don’t have to....I’ve been walking around with my hands in my pockets for my entire life!

³ a supplementary link to a YooToob video

¶ am I really borrowing the quote if I’m citing the source? Well, I could use the wisdom presented in that quote to find out. Maybe later (probably not). But I think that if I had thought of and asked that question to any of my elementary school English teachers (high school English teachers, too, but in high school, English teachers taught literature. They didn’t give a fuck about grammar.), none of them would know the answer. 

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Honestly one of the biggest problems with religious texts and beliefs is that they're full of contradictions, so my sources might suck ass in your opinion, but there's about 173839 different names and beliefs of the origin of the Big Bad.

The general consensus for people trying to puzzle this shit out in the 3 Bible verses and left sock where Lucifer is mentioned have really only been able to theorize that his name was potentially Luciel, or that he even had no name before his fall, as the Bible tends to refer to our main man here using only descriptive titles, such as the 'morning star', 'light bearer', 'accuser', or 'the adversary'.

I grew up partially Mormon and partially normal American household that doesn't even GO to church, so I've had less than typical education on the Bible, but I always personally believed that his name, using the conventional naming patterns of Angels would likely be Luciel or something COMPLETELY unrelated and out of left field. Of course, the name Lucifer itself is due to a mistranslation OF 'morning star', much like most other core beliefs of Christianity, so this is less trying to figure out what his name WAS (if you believe in Christianity and such) and more trying to determine the name the original authors of the Bible had for Lucifer. The King James ver. Of the Bible is often cited, but it has about as many mistranslations as you can get. (Looking at you homophobia. That passage was about 'laying' with children, not people of the same sex.)

If at some point he WAS known to be called Luciel before his fall, it was likely in a religious minority that was subsequently stamped out and forgotten, as most variants of the name Lucille or Luciel all mean bearer of light, a likely nod to Lucifer, which could signify a point in time where Luciel = Light bearer = Lucifer.

Sometimes Jesus himself is referred to as Lucifer because it was a descriptor primarily, and because of that it's reasonable to assume Lucifer was either only a descriptor or used as a name for Big Bad and subsequently a measure of Jesus' accomplishments so really there's no 100% this is his name before the fall or even after.

As a whole, in discussions of his name before the fall, just about every traditional name is cut out as it is actually a descriptor, resulting in mostly just leaving things up to personal interpretation.

I was planning on sharing Bible verses but ew so I'm just gonna link some places I found discussions on this topic bc that's easier and I haven't touched a Bible since like 6th grade. I just remember my mom teaching me his name before the fall was Luciel, which was probably just to get me to shut up and stop asking difficult questions.

Fair warning, it's religious in nature and religious discussions tend to bring crazy out of the woodworks.

(P. S. Catholics have an entirely different lists of potential names and beliefs so it really does vary based on belief)

Catholic Source I stumbled upon: https://forums.catholic.com/t/the-name-of-satan-lucifer-before-his-fall/255930

https://www.history.com/topics/folklore/history-of-the-devil

https://www.quora.com/What-was-Satans-name-while-in-heaven

Personally, for things that aren't straight up for hardcore Christians, I feel like referring to Big Bad as Luciel prefall and Lucifer post falls makes things more understandable, especially on a timeline.

I probably shouldn't have been so uppity about 'Luciel' being the standard considering how confusing it is and how there's no general consensus, but I just always thought of it as fact and never really realized otherwise?

TLDR: NOBODY FUCKIN KNOWS. HAM SANDWICH IS AS LIKELY AS LUCIEL TO BE LUCIFER'S NAME PREFALL AND NOBODY CAN PROVE OTHERWISE.

P. P. S Sorry for word vomiting, the sources do the same, and I thought summarizing to the best of my ability would help cut things down. It didn't.

I absolutely love consuming any fan content at all for obey me but damn yall Lucifer would have been Luciel before his fall

It's such a stupid pet peeve because it's not even remotely common knowledge but it's still frustrating