#As the Tumblr user previously known as the-empty-man I think I have a right to feel uniquely attacked
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hephaestuscrew · 1 month ago
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I was just minding my own business listening to the latest episode of World Gone Wrong podcast and thinking to myself "I'm getting big Empty Man vibes from these random bizarre but ominous messages, sent from a powerful source of authority, warning about the coming of a mysterious threat. I bet the writers were influenced by Wolf 359, it's fun how you can spot little influences like that..." And then I get to the end of the episode and only then do I learn it was written by Gabriel Urbina the man himself. I feel like I've fallen for some kind of trick. He's hiding in plain sight. He's The-Empty-Man-ed me in two separate podcasts. The empty man is coming for me and apparently his name is Leonard...
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throwupgirl · 3 months ago
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mo as my only dr supernatural phd i know. please give your insight on whether canon destiel ending (chaotic, beautiful, national holiday) is better than if they'd actually kissed on screen or at least let dean have a textual fling with a man. putting a plate of cheese out with a big smile
plate of cheese out for me? 🐭
ummm well this is kind of a hard question to answer. bc a lot of people seem to think the "canon destiel ending" was cas dying and going to "super hell" (does not exist. its called THE EMPTY and its a NEUTRAL ZONE where all angels and demons go when they die. and the empty looks like meg [hot] at the end).
however the actual ending in the finale, if taken at face value, is that cas is very much alive and somehow escaped the empty off screen. this isnt a conspiracy they out loud say it in the episode and dean just like smiles into the distance and cas never shows up in episode. so it is purposefully a destiel ambiguous ending.
i do not personally like the finale very much in the context of taking it at face value because its very rushed very badly made a lot of choices i dont understand (release the uriel cut. can anyone hear me). rating it on a scale of destiel on how much i like it as an ending for them specifically? id put it at a solid 6/10 because its very ambiguous and you can make up a continuation of it in your head and there's no sign of negativity/rejection on dean's end. cas is alive, we just didnt see him.
however there is a pretty strong theory by many fans that this ending is Fake (not in a TJLC way just in a 'i have an idea' way) and is actually the bad ending in disguise (known as the Chuck Won Theory) and this one is actually also pretty strongly backed up by the setup of season 15 as a whole and is much easier to explain and put together if youve actually watched season 15. personally its the interpretation of the ending ive gone with because it means i can make up a season 16 in my head and torment dean a little bit more and make an ending that makes more sense.
would it have been better if they had on screen gotten together and maybe kissed? also difficult question to answer due to the outside factors (COVID preventing certain scenes from happening/forcing them to do a lot of rewriting and reshoots) and the inside factors (would the CW writers do it right. personally i trust berens and yockey with my life but anyone else in that writers room id at least hesitate before handing them that). my answer is it would be nice because it wouldve made haters angrier and also ruined tv forever in a big way.
ALSO: to quote tumblr user maj casgirl if they made dean gay but not with cas id be on the news. also dean technically has previously had a textual fling with a man in season 10.
please watch supernaturallllll briar i need to talk abt it with youuuuu
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