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fideidefenswhore · 9 months

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Did Katherine of Aragon ever said nasty things about either Elizabeth Tudor or her parentage? Did she said something else than "Scandal of Christendom" about Anne Boleyn? It seems even today writers and historians are so eager to remember the nasty words of Anne, but forget when Anne or her baby daughter were insulted.

She referred to Elizabeth as “perverse offspring” (this was technically more about whatever issue would come from Henry & Anne’s “illegitimate marriage”, but); of Anne, besides that quote, she was not recorded as having said anything about her directly. Her confessor did (‘Jezebel’), though, and it’s plausible that given how frequently Chapuys recorded his private meetings with Katherine, she herself might have often been the source of his retellings of court events involving Anne.

#anon #you just have to ask yourself what the degree of separation is between an individual and their most vocal defenders / supporters …?#most of her champions denigrated pretty much every member of the Boleyn family #the men were called bawds and heretics #the women were called whores and Anne herself a heretic #as much as there’s been a push recently to center more on their similarities than their difference #differences *… these women hated each other #they had good reason to do so #and I think it’s fine to acknowledge that #*and said of her daughter that she had been baptized in hot water but ‘not hot enough’#and called her La petit batard etc #Anne referred to her own stepdaughter as a cursed bastard ~ which was definitely not nice ~#but like let’s not pretend it wasn’t reciprocal

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