#And that one movie with the Genie (I forget what it's called IM SORRY) and Mulan and Snow White
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I fucking hate this. They butchered his animations so badly.
In contrast, I remember seeing a few DTVA ads where multiple characters from different shows appeared and they would either perfectly replicate everybody's art styles, or got the original animators back on the scene for those short 40-second ads. They weren't good ads mind you, but at least when it came to the animated characters, they made sure to get the animation right.
Or maybe I'm just delusional and entitled and I'm remembering things wrong. :/
Another recent Wander Over Yonder cameo from the DTVA animated parody of High School Musical's "Born to be Brave"
#I still despise Wander and the bird dude's animations here because they look so wrong and janky#Like. This is DISNEY. You know. The guys who commercialized 2D animation? The guys who made movies like The Lion King and Tarzan#And that one movie with the Genie (I forget what it's called IM SORRY) and Mulan and Snow White#aka THE GUYS WHO KNOW WHAT THEY SHOULD KNOW WHEN IT COMES TO ANIMATION???????#Disney is a billion-dollar company and yet they show children shit like this. I haven't even seen the DuckTales reboot aside from a few cli#and yet even I know that the pilot guys animation is wrong#I feel violated for such a petty reason I'm so so sorry#I'll get over it. Duh. Course I will. This is a tiny little inconvinience.#But it still pains me to see Disney animate one of their best MC's like this. As if this parody is being animated by newbies.#If it was animated by someone new in the industry I will quickly retract my statement because that would just be mean#But if that were the case then why hire someone completely new to animate this parody??? Again. THIS IS DISNEY.#okay rant over sorry for making you go through the tags for that one anywhizzle#tumbleweed#blog/ask stuff
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i mean aladdin has always used indian influences and indian culture in the story and the original story came from china in the first place
this is got really long im so sorry, i also don’t know what this ask initially responded to, so im just Giving All My Thoughts On Disney And Culture
disclaimer that i’m tryna be as accurate and factual as i can without trivializing or minimizing the opinions and valid complaints/concerns from the people that this conversation actually is about they being arabic middle eastern and desi people, i’m just a chinese girl with lots of Thoughts And Opinions and i happen to know way too much about disney
oh ik disney’s (esp disney animation’s) relationship w other cultures has been Spotty at the most, lot of homogenizing, lot of misrepresentations, but i give them credit for trying esp when other studios would not (think about all the knock off animated movies that came out during the disney renaissance, none of them even made the effort to do something original that was immersed in another culture, like mulan and how it used chinese history was problematic but it was still respectful and ridiculously powerful representation for me as a chinese woman when i was a kid). this whole thing wouldn’t be as big of an issue if jasmine didn’t serve as important representation in the first place.
the original aladdin story as told in 1001 nights originated in the middle east but was set in china, though the names in the story were definitely not chinese (mustapha, badroulbadour) so already there’s some cultural confusion there. the deal with the 1992 animated disney aladdin was that they used the setting as literally setting, just straight up a place where a story was being told. the disney story as is could have been told literally anywhere just lifting the basic plot points of “poor kid finds magical object with magical being inside to make him rich and falls in love with the daughter of the most powerful man in the area while that man’s advisor try’s to break them apart”. you could take that concept and set in the world of avatar the last airbender or in in the future or in some other random setting. since the story is so basic they decided to a. honor and adapt the specific story of aladdin and the magical lamp from 1001 nights by b. make it accurate setting it in a general middle east-y area.
ALSO AS A SIDENOTE THE PRODUCTION HISTORY FOR DISNEY ALADDIN WAS GREATLY INFLUENCED BY THE PRODUCTION OF THE MOVIE THE THIEF AND THE COBBLER. A PAST DISNEY ANIMATOR WAS WORKING ON HIS PASSION PROJECT THE THIEF AND THE COBBLER AND JEFFREY KATZENBERG SAID TO LITTLE MERMAID (and future moana) DIRECTORS JOHN MUSKER AND RON CLEMENTS “HEY LETS SEE IF WE CAN MAKE MONEY OFF THIS�� AND MUSKER AND CLEMENTS SAID “OK”. AND ALADDIN PROCEEDED TO MAKE LOTS OF MONEY.
ok so to create that “general middle east-y area” setting of aladdin the production team for disney animation combined elements and aesthetics from different parts of the middle east both modern and more ancient. i see old descriptions of persia and the ottoman empire (the offices of “sultan and “grand vizer” were turkish/ottoman) as some of the main ones. they did also use indian influences the most notable i think obviously is the taj mahal as reference for the sultan and jasmine’s palace. in doing so and creating the fictional country of agrabah which was a hodgepodge of all these different cultures, making it really hard to unanimously pin down any real place as its setting. that in turn makes casting a live action adaptation of this already culturally confused movie really difficult.
to my knowledge the actor playing aladdin, mena massoud is actually arabic. sidenote he’s also a newcomer to hollywood which is always exciting especially for people/actors of color. people are upset that naomi scott, jasmine’s actress is indian (half indian, i may add) not arabic and her casting implies that indian and arabic people are interchangeable, which obviously they are not and should not be. it should also be noted that “indian” is not some monolithic group, it’s very diverse just as the term “asian” or “african” or “latinx” might be. so be careful with that. the concept of any sort of racial or ethnic identity is super fluid and something that a lot of people (myself included lmao) kind of struggle with and have trouble defining. but back on track, will smith as the genie i’m pretty down with, i think he’s a great comedian and especially with robin williams having passed and james monroe iglehart winning a tony as the genie in aladdin on broadway, the precedent of the genie being depicted by a black actor is great.
you also shouldn’t be calling naomi scott white. she’s half indian, and that’s a very real and important part of her identity and calling her “white” to feel good about dragging someone on the internet is straight up erasure. you shouldn’t call her white unless you want to call other actors like zendaya, ruth negga, chloe bennet, and so many others who i’m forgetting white, which you wouldn’t. and so you shouldn’t call naomi scott white either.
given how the story of aladdin all the way back to its original roots as a short story is so confused in terms of culture, everything about the live action disney aladdin should have been very careful. and it’s also important in my opinion to remember that aladdin is set in a very fictional place that is essentially a stew of aesthetics and historical influences from the general geographic area of the middle east and india. every complaint from arabic and middle eastern people about naomi scott’s casting is valid and they should be understood. if there’s one thing to take away from all these ridiculously long paragraphs i wrote, it’s that. i just wanted to also address aladdin’s origins as a product of the disney company and the live action’s subsequent status as an adaptation of an adaptation. it’s all complicated. open dialogue is important.
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1. A Song you’re ashamed of liking I’m not exactly ashamed but I like High School Musical songs lmao 2. Favourite lyrics N.O. by BTS 3. Favourite band/artist BTS 4. Top 5 Favourite songs at this moment 1. Mic Drop BTS 2. HangSang J-hope 3. Bling Bling Ikon 4. A friend like me Genie (Aladdin) 5. Friends Anne-Marie and Marshmallo 5. Latest song that made you smile Daydream by Hoseok 6. An overrated band People works really hard to get what they have so I don’t think I can judge that sorry :( 7. An overrated song Uhm… in this case I’d say Twice TT they are not really my style but they have better songs (like Ooh Aah) (yet again its just my opinion no offense) 8. Latest song that made you cry lol idk I don’t really cry with songs, movies and such. But Before our spring by Jonghyun truly stayed me 9. Artist/band that saved your life BANG TAN FUCKING SONYEONDAN 10. If you could see any band/artist live, who would it be BTS 11. What song/album/band/artist always brings back memories for you Disney songs in general 12. saddest song you know omg there are so many - Untitled by G-Dragon, Selene 6.23 by SHINee, Born Singer by BTS, Divine by SNSD. SO FUCKING MANY :’D 13. Favourite song to sing in the shower OMG this may sound rlly wired but I don’t really sing in the shower 😂 But when I do I sing Under the sea (the little mermaid) 14. If you played an instrument in grade school, what was it I played several, piano, violin, flute and others that I can’t remember lmao 15. What song would you like to have your first dance to at your wedding bitch please, Pink Panters sundtrack lmao 16. 5 Songs to have sex to OKAY SHIT umm anything hiphopish with flow and stuff its good to me lmao 17. One band you’d have get back together/bring back from the dead probably Sister and 2ne1 18. You’re forced to listen to only one album for the rest of your life, what album is it Wings YNWA by BTS or Love Yourself: Her by BTS 19. A song that gets you through shit sorry but I don’t 20. A song to shut everything out the cyphers 21. A song that’s a joke between you and your friends Avecrem commercial its from Spain, the lyrics say ‘Avecrem~ shoot shoop’ and since we’re assholes we changed it to ‘Avecrem~ Shook Shook’ 22. A song to jam out to at 4am BANG BANG BANG 23. A song that punches you in the gut every single time Born Singer by BTS 24. A song that calms you down Taeyeons Rain (actually any of her songs or IUs) 25. A song that makes you feel alive Fire by BTS 26. If you could get any lyrics tattooed, which would you choose omg ‘It has to be now or never’ like a motto I rather regret doing it than not doing it 27. What band/artist would you get your children addicted to at an early age B T S 28. Can you play any instruments, if so, which Rn Piano… not too well tho 29. If you could be a member of any band for one show, who would it be … BTS 30. CDs or Vinyls lmao…??? CDs??? 31. 5 songs to play at your funeral BANG BANG BANG, Fire (bts), I am the best (2ne1), Hang Sang (Hobi), Crown (Camila Cabello) 32. What are some song titles that you love 33. If your life ended today, what song would you choose to represent it mm... I don’t think a song can represent your whole life but Mic Drop is pretty much with what I feel represented ??? idk 35. A heart wrenching song Born Singer by BTS 36. A band/artist you’re proud of BTS 37. A song that has a lot of meaning to you N.O. by BTS 38. A song that reminds you of school Silver Spoon by BTS 39. A song not sung in your native language LMAO HELLO? 40. An instrumental song RM life instrumental 41. A classical song Canon by Pachelbel 42. A song with no percussion Sad but True by Metallica 43. Something you’ve heard performed live Uh... what? 44. Something you’d give ANYTHING to hear performed live B T S 45. A song from a band/artist that’s from your town/city/state/province Lmao its a Catalan band called ‘Els Catarres’ and they had a popular song called ‘Jenifer’ so yeah that. 46. A song made suddenly precious because of a special someone Time of my life from Dirty Dancing 47. A song made suddenly painful because of someone special None 48. A song that demands lip syncing and a makeshift microphone Lol Love on top by Beyonce 😂 49. A song from a band/artist you met/know I don’t know any irl 50. A song that you would rock at karaoke BTS Mic drop (Steve Aoki remix) or Colours of the wind by Pocahontas 51. A song you can’t help but dance to Any BTS song 52. A song that makes you want to dance on a table Any BTS song 53. Your 10 song striper playlist lol nope too much work 54. Favourite Disney song I’ll make a man out of you Mulan 55. A song that starts with the first letter of your name Crown by Camila Cabello 56. A song from an artist still alive WTF are these questions? Gashina by Sunmi 57. A song from an artist who’s dead Thriller by Michael Jackson 58. A song you love by an artist/band you hate I don’t hate any artists, if they are not of my liking I simply don’t listen to them so... 59. A song you love with a colour in the title Yellow submarine ?? 60. A song you love with a number in the title Whalien 52 by bts 61. A song that reminds you of someone you would rather forget about ??? none 62. A song that needs to be played LOUD BTS MIC DROP AND BIG BANGS BANG BANG BANG 63. A song that makes you think about life Demi Lovatos Skyscraper 65. A song that you think everyone should listen to I mean the classics should be known lmao Rolling Stones, Beatles, U2, Bon Jovi, Michael Jackson, Madonna ... 66. A song that makes you want to fall in love At Last by Etta James 67. A song that makes you think about ‘him/her’ I dont have a Him/her so none 68. A song that you remember from your childhood Any Disney song tbh 69. A song that reminds you of you idk 😂😂😂 70. Okay what’s the real answer to number 1 bitch whaaat???
Im so sorry for this but I tag @yoongsyeol and @hiiraxth :)) btw a huge ass part of the answers are just BTS wtf?
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