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kalinara · 7 years ago

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Rip/Sara - Gideon. Rip - self-worth. Rip - stubbornness. Rip - temper. Rip - fights. Rip - friends. Rip - era (any/all). Rip + team - era (ie., how much culturally does Rip miss/not realize he's missing/realizes he misses and doesn't care in his interactions with the team). Rip - time travel. Rip - music. Rip - concentration. Rip - aloof (what's it masking?). Rip/Sara - time. Rip - team. Rip - families. Rip and Jax - bond. Rip and Rogues - mastery.

I think you’re trying to murder me. Fortunately, my babbling knows no bounds.

However, these will likely be shorter than my other headcanons/meta.

Rip/Sara - Gideon: So Gideon is an interesting complication to any Rip pairing fic, because, well, she’s there. She’s always going to be there. And regardless of whether you see her relationship with Rip as having romantic elements, it’s still going to be a factor.

I wonder if, in a way, it would be rather like living inside of your mother-in-law. Which seems awkward.

I have to say though, I don’t think that Sara would propose a threesome. She did think that Gideon was hot, but I don’t really think Gideon is her type personality-wise.

Rip - self worth: ... Really?

Okay, I don’t think Rip is completely without self-worth, but I think that his self-worth is particularly wrapped up in the various roles he plays. And that becomes a problem, because said roles have a disconcerting habit of disappearing on him.

He has value as a husband and father. Until his wife and son are dead. He has value as a Time Master, until they betray him, are revealed to be corrupt, and are destroyed. He has value as a guardian of the spear of destiny, until he was captured and turned. He has value as the Captain of the Waverider, until he is supplanted by a more capable alternative.

The problem with Rip is that as soon as he loses his role, he doesn’t really know how to find a new one. I’m not sure he really knows how to define himself in his own right, without the input of the people around him.

Rip - Stubbornness:

Hah, well, that is definitely a character trait that Rip has. I don’t think Rip is stubborn just for the sake of being stubborn though. Rather, I think he generally has a very clear idea of what his goal is, what he wants, and how things are supposed to be.

That doesn’t make him any less difficult to deal with sometimes though. But as we’ve seen, especially in season 1, he can be swayed and reasoned with. And he really seems to value that the team will call him out, force him to back down, and make him see things another way.

I do feel a little sorry for Vandal Savage sometimes though. Because Rip will not ever give up. :-)

Rip - temper:

I tend to see Rip as being a hot-tempered sort. His anger comes in flashes and dissipates pretty quickly after the initial eruption.

The one exception is if you hurt someone he cares about. Then he will come for blood. This is the man who hunted Vandal Savage through centuries. I wouldn’t recommend it.

Rip - fights:

Hm. I think Rip, on a whole, was never really prone to fighting. When he lived on the streets, he was a small child. So any fight he got into would not have ended well. At any point that he was attacked, the goal would have been to strike quickly and escape. I doubt the Time Masters would have had much patience for casual fighting either.

This isn’t to say that Rip can’t handle himself in a fight. We’ve seen that he can. But I don’t think he enjoys it the way that certain other characters do. I think that, for Rip, a fight means that either his life, someone else’s, or the mission is on the line.

This might make for an interesting contrast with Sara, who I think DOES enjoy the fight. I think that if she ever realized exactly how good he was (like in the scene in Out of Time), she would be very enthusiastic about the idea of a friendly match. And he would NOT.

Rip - friends.

I’m not sure that I think Rip has the capacity to have casual friends. I think he has acquaintances/allies and then he has people that he would 100% throw himself into a volcano for, with no middle ground.

And it makes some sense, given his upbringing. You get the sense that the Time Masters didn’t necessarily produce an environment that allowed for casual friendships (though the children did appear to play together at the Refuge), so if you’re going to break the rules you might as well go all out.

...I think that might be Rip’s motto anyway.

Rip - era (any/all).

I think that as a Time Master, Rip isn’t really supposed to have a favorite era. But we also know exactly how well Rip seems to follow rules like that. But for all his interest in the Wild West trappings, or his success in fighting Time Pirates, I don’t think that’s what makes an era particularly interesting to him.

I think it’s the people. Rip’s favorite eras are the ones that his favorite people reside in. He loves the Wild West because of Jonah. He loves the 1940s for the JSA. He loves the early 21st century for his team. (And specifically 2130-ish because that’s where he and Kendra finally killed Savage).

Rip + team - era (ie., how much culturally does Rip miss/not realize he's missing/realizes he misses and doesn't care in his interactions with the team).

Rip was raised in the future by a scary time-space cult, so he’s definitely got a different cultural background than the rest of the team. But I think it’s less about pop-culture trivia (you never know what might be relevant to a Time Master’s studies after all. Some future war may have been averted because of the ambassadors’ mutual love of the Backstreet Boys), and more about the way they look at the world.

I make fun of Rip’s “because, fuck you” tendencies, but the thing is, in the world that Rip grew up in, his entire life would have been wrapped up in rules and regulations. Everything regimented. Everything monitored. The man lives with an AI who watches and records his dreams. Freedom, privacy, democracy, those may not even be values in Time Master society so much as historical concepts.

Can you imagine how strange Sara, Jax, or Ray’s childhood would sound to Rip? Or heck, even Snart and Rory’s?

I think Rip is always fundamentally aware of how alien he is from the rest of the team. In a way that they aren’t. But I also think that’s part of why he values them so much. They fill a need for him that his own culture has never been able to provide.

Rip - time travel

I think Rip, deep down, simply loves to time travel. It’s just...fun. He loves to visit different times and meet different people.

If Rip Hunter hadn’t been raised by the Time Masters, he would have still somehow managed to go out and build a time sphere in his garage and do it that way.

I know, because I’ve read the comics. :-P

Rip - music.

I think that Rip loves all kinds of music. But that he hasn’t listened to much of anything since his family died. He hasn’t sung, or touched an instrument since then either.

However, in the time between season one and season two, that was starting to change. He’d be in the engine room, supervising Jax’s repairs (hardly necessary at this point, but Jax was still anxious enough to want to make sure he was doing it right), and find himself humming a Rolling Stones song under his breath. Thankfully, Jax didn’t hear him. If the crew knew, he’d never hear the end of it.

(Jax actually did hear him. He and Gideon were colluding on having the ship play some of Rip’s favorite songs as a surprise but Rip disappeared before they could.)

Rip - concentration.

A headcanon to do with concentration. Hmm.

Oddly enough, I’ve got nothing. :-) I think Rip is generally very good at concentrating on tasks at hand, but that the crew would try anyone’s patience and I’m sure havoc would ensue. (Possibly conveniently timed for when Rip has been working too long and missed food and sleep. Making it very easy for someone like Sara or Jax to nag at him to go to sleep since it’s obvious that he wasn’t going to be able to get back in the right frame of mind.)

Oh, I know. Rip hates concentrated orange juice. It is a terrible thing.

Rip - aloof (what's it masking?).

Rip Hunter is a seething mass of white-hot rage, hopeless love, and impossibly bad decisions all thinly wrapped in a veneer of British sarcasm

Rip/Sara - time.

I have to admit, I see Time Canary as possibly the most star-crossed of any potential Legends of Tomorrow pairing that comes to mind. Because I do think they’d be good together. I think they have a strong emotional bond, and they’ve been good support for one another on many occasions.

But they’ve always had issues in terms of timing. When they met, Sara was dealing with resurrection and bloodlust, and Rip had JUST lost his family.

Later, after they’ve worked together for some time, with Sara’s bloodlust under control, her slow coming to terms with Laurel’s death, and Rip finally starting to move past his grief and trauma, he disappears.

Absence makes the heart grow fonder, and circa Raiders of the Lost Art, I started to see a lot of signs that the two characters might be ready to come together. Sara’s reaction when she thought Phil was Rip. Phil’s kind of tentative attraction (I see Phil as basically Rip, with all the baggage stripped away)...

But then there was the Legion. And evil!Rip. And even though Sara clearly doesn’t blame Rip for what happened, that’s a whole mess of new guilt and trauma that he’ll have to work past to even be remotely able to conceive of pursuing a romance with Sara. And Sara’s got her own issues: the captaincy, the quest, (and her understandable frustration with his general personality. :-P)

I think the characters definitely love each other, and that it’s possible that eventually that love could move into a romantic direction, but so far, the timing has never been right.

Rip - team.

I think that Rip Hunter loves his team to a ridiculous, irrational, near obsessive extent. He would die for them in a heartbeat. He has no idea what to do whenever he’s without them. And he wants to hug them or beat them to death with a broomstick on a daily basis.

I also think that he has no idea how to communicate any of this to any of them. And he’d probably die of embarrassment before he ever made the attempt. So they have no idea.

This is why I find all of the teases about Season Three so fascinating. It will be so interesting to see what happens to cause Rip to break so completely with the team, how the aftermath shakes out, and what ways he ends up functioning without them. I’m dreading it a little too, of course. But it ought to be a fun ride. :-)

Rip - families.

I always find myself wondering how Rip and Miranda initially established themselves as a family. Because it’s not like either of them had much experience to base it on, as far as we know. Rip’s account of his backstory involved starving on the streets and then the Refuge. Though, if Miranda was recruited at the age of ten as well, it’s possible that she may have memories of her original family life.

But can you imagine how confusing it must have been at first? I mean, obviously a Time Master’s education would have included concepts of family dynamics and marriage. Since so many historical events were fueled by those kind of things. But there’s a difference between reading about it and living it.

I’d like to imagine, from the little bit we see of Miranda, that she adapted to life in 2166 Whitechapel very well. She seems like the sort to be able to make friends easily, and possibly she was able to study them as she went. And Rip is the sort to follow her lead when it comes to such things.

On the plus side, having grown up very separate from modern or even future ideas of family dynamics, Rip and Miranda would have had the freedom to basically discard anything that didn’t suit them. I’d imagine whatever they came up with would have looked rather odd to an outside observer, but worked very well for them. :-)

Rip and Jax - bond.

One of the things that I thought season two did really well was establish a clear and strong bond between Rip and Jax. And that’s pretty impressive considering that Rip was gone for eight episodes, and the characters did not have a huge amount of interaction in season one. There were a few good bits here and there: Rip choosing Jax as engineer, Rip’s concern in the 1950s, his gentleness with Jax’s father dilemma, and the endangering part of River of Time, but the real thrust of their dynamic seemed to come about in Out of Time, and carried on through Rip’s return.

I know I’ve said this before, but in a way, it actually makes a lot of sense that the two would get along. They’re the youngest men on the ship (even though there’s a ten year age difference between them). They’re both mechanically minded and they both truly love the Waverider in a way that only an engineer or mechanic can. They’re not childish or silly in the same way that Nate or Ray can be.

If there is one character that I think Rip might have been able to truly relax around and be a functioning human being with, I think it’s Jax. (And I think we saw that a bit in Fellowship, with the jelly beans).

And Jax is one of the two characters (the other being Sara), who I think really do feel an honest connection to their mission and the quest. He’s definitely a character that I could imagine captaining a time ship himself in the not-so-distant future.

Rip and Rogues - mastery

I am tempted to make jokes about Rip wearing a leash, but I will behave myself.

The thing that’s always been interesting about the Rogues in season one is that, of all of the characters, they were the only ones who really had any sort of experience working as a team.

The Hawks were always “us against the world” even when Kendra had her memories. Ray, Martin and Jax were all fairly new to the superhero thing. Sara had a bit more experience with the League of Assassins and her brief stint with Team Arrow, but those experiences have a certain level of baggage attached.

But Snart and Rory have been a criminal team, off and on, for decades. They’ve regularly worked with other people too. They have justifiable confidence in their skills because they’ve practiced them for decades. And Snart, in particular, has been a leader of groups for about that long.

It’s an interesting dynamic. Because Snart is by far a better leader than Rip ever was, but there is no way that he would have managed to lead this group. It's not his quest, and while the crew liked and respected him, it’s not clear that they would have trusted him enough to follow him.

One of the things I’ve always wished for was to see more direct interaction between Rip and Snart, and Rip and Mick. (Particularly the latter, since the show is not subtle with their many parallels.) There is some good fic out there to fill the lack, at least. :-)

(I may have to hold off on responding to the rest until tomorrow. :-))

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