#Also remember this when speaking to Jewish Zionists. Thst they are not inherently evil we just have so much propaganda in our communities.

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I think what needs to be addressed with Israel and Jewish supporters too that I haven't really seen discussed much is...y'all know we are subject to a lot of propaganda too, right? Like, obviously, that doesn't excuse excusing genocide. But like, a lot of Jewish kids aren't gonna know about this. A lot of Jews who don't go online aren't gonna know about this. It's just kind of weird to see that lack of understanding that a lot of us were raised on propaganda and our communities and the news, too, have plenty of handy lies.

I grew up being told Israel was full of no one but Jews. I grew up being told I had a literal birthright to be there - not just because it was holy, but because it was safe. That our people had faced attempted genocide over and over and over again. I grew up listening to Holocaust survivors, being forced to attend museums when I had already firsthand listened to the horrors from the mouths of those who lived it, being told over and over again by the world that at any moment, this could happen again. And by no means am I saying listening to survivors or visiting museums was propaganda - but you get how that scares a kid, right? You get that then, when you have a scared kid and then you tell them there is only one place on earth they'll be safe and no one's living there really, that you have a divine right to this safety, that they're going to latch onto that idea.

Again, none of this excuses the actions of adults, I guess it's just...idk, also weird to me? That that aspect isn't discussed, that that might contribute to why there are so many Jewish zionists. And more importantly, how that can be a way to fight against Zionism in Jewish spaces, especially since there's been a lot of acknowledgement of antisemitism in leftist spaces but...I'm not seeing as much discussion on how to fight it. On how that alienates Jews. It's just weird to me how so much more attention and interest will go to discussing why Christians might be Zionists, and trying to open the doors to goy and being more gentle with your discussions to them and dismissing Jewish Zionists as all evil when we (Jews, not Zionists) have been fed propaganda all our lives.

The most radicalizing thing to me, by the way, the thing that made me realize the propaganda was just that, was that they killed children. Adults could be justified and excused as Hamas, but children? There was no excuse. The stories from Palestinians came next, and they shocked me to my core. To hear the voices of people who have lost their loved ones - though we've also seen some nasty propaganda and false stories from Israel, too. I don't know if it'll work for everyone, but the reminder that children are dying worked for me.