#Abdullah actually related a little lol
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Its like my first post here and im already have something controversial to say
I need to summon Bartseq and Howl's moving castle fandoms
How about Bartimaeus trilogy and Castle in the air (moving castle) crossover
Soldier and Abdullah's mission but it's kinda loser magician/rude jinni dynamic
Me and chat literally jump from one trilogy to another ten times a day so crossover was only a matter of time
(don't expect me to have structure or something, it's just an draft of idea, and i don't even know english that much)
Abdullah, an apprentice of magician, first time summoned someone more powerful than foliot. He needs help with search of Flower-of-night, and he think sm stole her, like many other girls in town
But this jinnie don't seem to be helpful.
Demon named Justin do everything but help
First he was summoned he wasn't scary, creep, or any word that you imagined when hear ab demons, nah
Jinn looks like a soldier in an old-fashioned gray uniform, his eyes glowing an inhuman blue. Not only did he light up the room with a green ghostly glow, he still looked as if he had just been pulled out of the field.
Abdullah was rather confused than scared, and then, spirit, in a form of man, begin to talk in this throbbing, polyphonic voice.
He's bragging about how many wars he won, how many battlefield he go through and how much well-known generals he spoke to.
And i think he don't want to anyone call him by his name bc "on the war we don't have names until we dead. Only titles, I'm just a Soldier."
(if you even care, author of idea described it like
WHAT DOES A KID NEED FROM THE SPIRIT OF WAR...U NEED ME TO FIND YOUR LOVER? AM I LIKE CUPID TO YOU, OR WHAT? LOOK CAREFULLY: BEFORE YOU, THE HERO OF COUNTLESS WARS!!!! INVINCIBLE MILITARY POWER!!!!! I HAVE WENT THROUGH SO MANY FIELDS OF BATTLE THAT YOU HAVE NEVER DREAMED SO MANY DREAMS IN YOUR LIFE AND WILL NEVER DREAM, SAY YOUR TRUE ORDER, I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE SOMETHING BETTER FOR ME )
He talks too much, Abdullah thinks. And little bit even thankfull for that bc last day were wild, he needs a minute to breathe and calm down. So he listens demons comments on everything
On his stupid order, bc he clearly doesn't expect some child summon him to find a girl. He expect another war. Even asked who we fight against this time. All his life he was called only for such tasks. he emphasized that battles were his specialty, and he would not accept any other assignment (actually i think poor man needs to learn how to live outside of war but it's just me)
An place. He looks out of window and goes "dammit don't tell me it's Ingary. Ugh, I've hated this place since the war against Strangia" or something
"yes, oh most rustless out off jinns, it's actually Kingsbury" Abdullah answer. Soldier only made a annoying noise with tongue and decided don't try to scare a boy with illusions of screams or image of running against him monsters
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Now im gonna throw up takes without explanation
- Justin Soldier being like the worst servant in the world. Abdullah pissed, bc he often can't force him to do simple tasks. Physical punishment didn't help because 1) Abdullah almost never really do ant, but often threatens 2) Jinn don't care
So. Boy should find damn food for Jamal's angry dog himself, ashamed of how his demon unable do such a order. (Soldier bring a wrong meat for pet on purpose. He'd like to watch how boy run from him.)
- yea. In most of cases it's Soldier decide what they need to do. Not his master.
- he always tries to lead a guy astray from saving the love of his life, distractin him like maybe sometimes point on some girl
"look, such a beautiful mistress out there, see? Much closer than that your stolen princess huh, maybe try a shot?"
- ALSO. almost forgot. Justin favourite form it's that form of this random old fashioned strangian soldier (that Abdullah asked him to change bc it's capital city you know noone wants to see someone like that here. He don't care.) and black blue-eyed cat. Always one of this two looks. Yes, in this version Abdullah still have annoying cat that always sits on his shoulder. It's now just his jinn.
- Abdullah has much less professionalism and he don't have a library in his head like Nat did. Actually, by magician standards he like kinda below average. Although, surprisingly, he has one of the most powerful magicians as mentor.
- we decided. Princeses are opposition. Flower-in - night just run away from her violent and crazy mentor to girls to plan throwing a government. They all kinds of girls from magician and commoners family's, some of them are listed as missing (or as stolen. Stolen girls from all the town you know, like princesses), some are here in secret from their families, god they even have policeman on their side
- you have three take to guess who's Abdullah's mentor.
Yes. It's a damn Ben Suliman. He's one of ministers. We just don't decide minister of what he is.
(all the credits to @jutenium for this precious idea)
So. What do you think, folk.
We have more drama, i can make part 2
Bc we NEED to talk about Hatter sisters here
#imagine their canonical bartnat dialogue#where no one hears anyone but they keep talking#“u remind me of someone” “im still don't know how to make it to this place”#“this your robe..” “you said you know this street like palm of your hand”#etc#also we don't have “inhuman who actually love humans in his way”#bc Soldier HATES people#Abdullah actually related a little lol#and we don't have Kitty&Barty type of bonding#Beatrice is kinda local Kitty so#I'm decided Strangia had a place of trilogian Chech if we talk about it#so it's another reason why she hates government#The time will come#we will talk about Justin and Beatrice here#they hate each other but have to exist in same room#because noone expects Abdullah's girl to be DAMN MEMBER OF OPPOSITION#we have so much to talk about#and about loser magician ms Pendragon too#castle in the air#hmc book#prince justin#wizard suliman#I'm nervous to post this lol#also Saliman and Justin had know eash other on a Ingarian/strangian war like 20 years ago#do with this information whatever you want#soldier sincerely believe his “dear friend yong Ben Suliman” died 200 years ago#but umm no he just don't understand how much time past since his last summon
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Who was Hüma Hatun?
Hüma Hatun, was the mysterious mother of Mehmed II. We know quite little exact things about her. Some suggested she was a Frech princess, others said she was a Jewish noble woman and there are some saying she was Hungarian. Among Hungarian sources quite a few mentions her as a Hungarian who was the grand-aunt of King Mátyás I of Hungary. About this last possibility, Gyöngyössy Márton wrote an interestning article. In this post I will make a summary out of his work written in Hungarian.
But first of all, what we know about Hüma Hatun? Her origin is controversial as I already mentioned, however, it is sure that she was a slave origin woman. How do we know? She was mentioned in the deed of her poius foundation as “Hatun bint Abdullah”, which clearly refers to women converted to Islam. Also her name, Hüma, is a persian origin name, meaning bird of paradise. Such names were given to slaves. What we surely know about her life is that she followed herson Mehmed to Amasya in 1443. She died soon in 1449 in Bursa. The place of her death suggests that she may had health problems thats why she moved to Bursa instead of being with Mehmed in Amasya. She was buried in Bursa, where her son later built a türbe for her honour, called Hatuniye Türbe.
The main reason why the author (and not just him but other historians too) believe there was a relation between Mehmed II and King Mátyás I, is that Mátyás himself wrote it in several letters of his. He said that the (elder) sister of his grandmother was captured during the reign of Murad II and was taken to the harem of the sultan, where she later give birth to a boy: Mehmed. Can it be possible?
What we must clear now is that a noble girl would truly be a nice gift for a sultan! So if they would find a virgin noble woman in nearly any age, it would be a nice gift. I think in such case, it was not necessary to be 10-12 years old to be taken to the harem, even an older girl would be fine (especially in this early period of the empire). So based on Mátyás I, the sister of his grandmother was taken away in the 1420s. Is mathematically it possible that Hüma Hatun was captured then? Yes. Hüma Hatun should be 15-25 when become a mother in 1432, so she was probably born in 1417-1407.
I must add, that it is also possible that Mátyás only said stuff like this to make political benefits. The fight between Cem and Bayezid happened during his reign, so maybe he wanted to claim some right lol? True, he said it even before to Mehmed II. Sounds strange though, but fun fact later Mehmed II and Bayezid II also referred to Mathias as a brother. However, I can imagine it coming from our centuries-long common history lol. I mean both Hungairans and Turkish are türks from Central Asia. So we are sibling nations, even nowdays Turkish people say we are kardeşler, so... Anyway, while it is interesting that they called Mátyás a brother, it doesn't 100% proves that there was a blood relationship.
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Sultan Mehmed II and King Mátyás I.
Okay now, let's check the grandmothers of Mátyás I. Fun fact, we only know his maternal grandmother’s identity for sure. Mátyás's mother was Erzsébet Szilágyi and her mother was Katalin (Catherine) Bellyéni. Is it possible she was related to Hüma Hatun? In short: no, Katalin's family was not in a good place to be captured and attacked. So she surely was not Hüma Hatun’s sister, however, Erzsébet Szilágyi was related to Ottoman’s trhough her father, Mihály Szilágyi.
Szilágyis were related to the descendants of Savcı Bey, the executed Ottoman prince, son of Murad I. Savcı Bey rebelled against his own father with his Byzantine ally and in the end was executed for that. Fun fact is that Savcı was able to take his family out of the Empire (some actually suggest he also was able to leave but later was found and killed). He had a son, Murad who lived in the Hungarian Kingdom, hungarian sources list at least one female family member (a daughter) and also another son, Orhan. About Orhan we don't really have information about his life, only that he died between 1488-1495. Honestly, for me it suggests that he was not Savci's son but more his grandson (knowing Savci was executed 1385).
The daughter (or granddaughter based on the previous calculations with Orhan) of Savcı became Christian and was called as Katalin. Mihály Szilágyi fought with László Hagymási for her. In the end Szilágyi won and married the woman in 1410. Erzsébet Szilágyi may was born from this marriage. But it is controversial... Anyway it seems like the Szilágyi family was related to the Ottomans. Katalin, Savcı's descendant was the one who died earliest among the three siblings.
Murad married a woman called Ágnes and he had a family with her, after he himself converted to Christianity. He surely had one son, who became a famous Hungarian warrior: Davud Çelebi (called David in Hungarian). He fought against the Ottomans at Rigómező along János Hunyadi (father of King Mátyás I). In 1451 he went to the Ottoman Empire with the support of Christians to fight for the throne. He died there before 1456. He had a son, Bayezid ho stayed in Hungary and was mentioned in several sources in the 1460s 70s.
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Erzsébet Szilágyi, mother of King Mátyás I. Her family was probably related to Ottomans, however she was not related to Hüma Hatun.
So it seems like we should search for the sister of Hüma Hatun at the paternal side of King Mátyás I. The main problem here is that we know very little about the mother of János Hunyadi. There are several theories about his mother's identity:
- 1st possibility, János Hunyadi 's mother was Erzsébet Morzsinai. The author talks about it kinda long but it just makes it clear: Erzséber Morzsinai surely was not the mother of János. The author also only mentioned it because it is a well-known legend and so he wanted to clear it.
- 2nd possibility, János Hunyadi's mother was Ankó Barancskai. She is coming from a Romanian noble family and she MAY truly is János's mother. She surely had sisters, which seems good if we are searching for Hüma Hatun. Ankó should be born ~1390, which would make her too old for be the sister of Hüma Hatun. However, there is a letter from 1429, where her sisters are mentiond and she had a young still unmarried sister Márta, and of course we cannot rule out the presence of other sisters too, whom we may don't know about. Why Márta is important? She may was Hüma Hatun. Probably not, but her presence is important, because it is an avidence for their father still making babies constantly in the 1410s, 1420s and so the presence of much younger daughters compared to Ankó is confirmed. It is possible that one of these younger sisters was captured and taken to the Ottoman Empire.
- 3rd possibility, Hunyadi János's mother was Szapolyai X. Szapolyai was an important noble family just at the beggining at their raise during this period. In the mausoleum of János Hunyadi 's father, both the Hunyadi and Szapolyai family coat of arms are on the graves, suggesting a possible marriage or relationship. Though this doesn't mean that János's mother was a girl from the Szapolyai family, maybe they were simply relatives of the Szapolyai family. All in all I - and the author also - find this option, not the most possible. The coat of arms is not strong evidence for anything in this case.
- 4th possibility, János Hunyadi's mother was a Greek noblewoman. I don't even want to talk about it. It's just legend to make János Hunyadi look better with strong noble relations. Just nope.
All in all the only truly possible option for János Hunyadi’s mother is Barancskai Ankó, the Romanian (or Hungarian) noblewoman. So she was (let's say) János Hunyadi's mother and she had younger sisters, close in age to Hüma Hatun. Barancskai family lived in Transylvania and surely suffered from the Ottoman forces in the 1420s, so it's absolutely possible that some of the family members were killed and/or taken by ottomans. King Mátyás I in his letters says this grand-aunt was taken in the 1420s during a smaller raid (so not during war). There was one raid close to the place of Hunyadi's home in 1420 autumn. Maybe one of Ankó's sisters was taken away this time? It is possible that one of the sisters was captured and taken to the Ottoman Empire.
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János Hunyadi, father of King Mátyás I. Probably it was his mother, who was related to Hüma Hatun, if this whole thing is true.
What do I think? Do I believe that Ankó's sister was Hüma Hatun? I dont know what to believe honestly, because:
- I think maybe it is possible, but not such a close relative (grand-aunt) was captured, just a far relative, and King Mátyás I said otherwise to make the relationship with Ottoman’s look closer and make political benefits. I mean okay it is not impossible to capture noble family members as they did with Sokollu too, but still... I don’t know.
- Hüma’s noble Hungarian origin may would explain why she and Murad II were not close and why Murad preferred his other son (until he did nto die) over Mehmed II. If Hüma was truly a noble woman, captured, force converted I think she would not be too nice to Murad II lol, especially if she was captured at not a too young age (so the brainswash was not perfect on her).
- Mehmed refused to talk about his mother in general. Would it make sense for Mehmed II to keep his mother's Hungarian identity in secret? After their fail at Nándorfehérvár it would lol. This Nándorfehérvár thing was a military blockade of Belgrade that occurred July 4–22, 1456. After the fall of Constantinople in 1453, Mehmed II rallied his resources to subjugate the Kingdom of Hungary. His immediate objective was the border fort of the town of Belgrade/Nándorfehérvár. János Hunyadi, the Count of Temes and captain-general of Hungary, who had fought many battles against the Turks in the previous two decades, prepared the defenses of the fortress. The siege escalated into a major battle, during which Hunyadi led a sudden counterattack that overran the Ottoman camp, ultimately compelling the wounded Mehmed II to lift the siege and retreat. The battle had significant consequences, as it stabilized the southern frontiers of the Kingdom of Hungary for more than half a century and thus considerably delayed the Ottoman advance in Europe.
- Mara Brankovic, wife of Murad II, step-mother of Mehmed II, was a Serbian princess. Serbs, and Hungarians back then (during Mara's father's reign) were fine. So wouldn't it make sense for Mara and Hüma to be close or at least have some compatriotic feelings toward each other? There is no evidence for such, which of course does not mean there was nothing like that. Maybe they truly have, I mean it would help us to understand why Mehmed and Mara were so close. I'm still not sure but it's not nonsense for sure.
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Hüma Hatun (aka Leyla Feray) and Mara Hatun (aka Tuba Büyüküstün) from the mini-series of Rise of Empires: Ottoman.
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