#AND JUST. IM JUST. THIS IS MAKING ME MAD. FUCK FONTAINE ACTUALLY
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watatsumiis · 10 months ago
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wow the justice system in fontaine really rubs me the wrong way what the fuck
edit: FREE MY MAN BAPTISTE HE DID NO WRONG
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hematomes · 1 year ago
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Hey! I'm the anon who talked about how the whole Traveller getting mad at Fontaine twins scenario got spread like wildfire on social media. Just call me Kina for now.
There's something I wanted to add but didn't because my rant was long:
While the twins (and Freminet) aren't bad people (as far as we know), I do find it hilarious that everyone is salty over Aether/Lumine getting angry when anybody, no matter how understanding, will feel very frustrated, conflicted and confused about learning that someone who's been so sincere towards you turns out to be apart of a dangerous group that's responsible for something going wrong in your journey.
Also, Diluc's allowed to hate the Fatui (for very good reason) but the Traveller? No, no, no. Their the protagonist, their supposed to be understanding and everyone's buddy. What a fucking bs reason to justify demonizing Traveller.
i got some insight from the other side and they gave some understandable argument, although it still didn't really make sense to me
from what i understood, the "problem" (for a small minority of people who whine about it, imo. the one side i could picture actually) lies in the inconsistency, specifically when you put the fontaine situation side by side with the one back in inazuma
i could see how it's mildly frustrating to have a main character that is inconsistent on a logical level: being harsh when faced with a lie vs forgiving a character that embodies fanservice (ei) in the blink of an eye despite the fact that she subjected her people to countless horrors and civil wars
to this i say, not unkindly: suck it up. the inazuma archon quest was a shit show, we are finally back on something that MAKES sense and to me personally, that's what matters. id rather keep with an unforgiving traveler that has seen too much now to be too kind (let's however not forget that they offered to be the attorney for the very same people that lied to them lol) and not on their guard. it's what i would call character development - just like how they're more wary when it comes to the archons, thanks to input they got from dainsleif (among other things, like the abyss twin's input for example)
maybe im optimistic in the sense that i have decided to ignore the mishaps and focus on what i enjoy, which is messy yet coherent travels and decisions. let the traveler change, make mistakes, whether that's intentional or due to past poor writing management. maybe im also sentimental, but i like seeing humanity in the character, pouring from the writers' very own: errors, mistakes, whatever
it doesn't make sense? does it absolutely has to? does it really not make sense? i disagree. i like where it's going, and you, like some of us, are providing solid reasons as to why it just works, despite how frustrating it may be to see the main character being insufferable to you. let's use that as a reminder that aether and lumine aren't actual self-inserts
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fatuismooches · 1 year ago
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your thing for webttore vs gamettore is something i literally annoy my friends with all the time SO
I personally love the personality webttore has, he hahahehehoho'd into my heart, but i also ADORE the elusiveness of gamettore, what people dont seem to realize is that while its hard to notice, boattore (i think boattore was the one talking to tighnari anyway) has a personality different than the gamettore we see with nahida, the sass he displays when talking to tighnari is so silly to me, while attractiveness i Cannot decide, webttore is more sauishable to me, he seems like he'd have soft cheeks behind his mask, while gamettore seems??? sharper??? maybe it's his stupid fucking bird mask (affectionate) but even if webttore has his shark teeth (I NEED THEM ON GAMETTORE NOW) webttore seems softer than gamettore to me??? idk if it makes sense but id bite webttore on the cheek with no fear for my life but would probably have to work my way up to gamettores cheek by biting his arm first
gamettore really made me start paying attention to dottore in general since i (admittedly) havent read the manga and only downloaded cuts of every panel webttore was in because what else am i supposed to do??? actually read the webcomic??? you think i can read??? anyway seeing dottore in the winters night lazzo made me go "omg hes real" and soon he finally wormed his way into my mad scientist adoring heart, although a gripe i have with gamettore is that we don't really see him unlike webttore methinks, which makes sense and the times we did see him had be giggling kicking my feet and rolling at 297482847273 mph but there's like... 3 cutscenes??? and i think we see him like 10 times ar most.. i think im mainly just waiting for dott to become playable to find out more about his lore because.. i cannot put my adoration for dottore into words he's genuinely one of if not my favorite genshin character, im the mad scientist now i need to pick apart his brain and see his motives more clearly - 🎈
AHHH THIS THIS THIS. The personality of Webttore has my heart, but I love the cool confident calm demeanor of Gamettore. And yes, Boattore definitely has a different personality than Omega. I’m not sure how to describe it but you can kind of just know? Not to mention, during the Archon quest the Fatui npcs mention how different this Dottore is from before, so it’s really shown how different even the in-game Dottores are. Boattore speaks in a different tone as well lol i love him
AHHHH YES WEBTTORE IS SO SQUISHY. Not to mention i absolutely love his haircut it looks so fluffy and messy, i also want to cup that tiny space of his cheek where the mask doesn't cover and give him a lil kith 😔 I'd also pull on his lil bow tie. But Webttore is the kinda guy I'd make fun of (affectionately ofc) while I would think twice about that for Gamettore 😭 Though Webttore would have more heated reactions while Gamettore is just like 😶
HELP i first read the manga for the plot, every other time i go to read it solely for Webttore 😭 And yea i am slowly going insane with the lack of Dottore cutscenes, I'm losing sight in the right eye rewatching all his cutscenes🥰 Though i can't expect more, he did his job and left after it was done lol... The only thing i hope is he appears in Fontaine 🥺
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fontainefuckerys · 4 years ago
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Okay but the women of Rapture.
Can we take a moment to talk about how wonderful they were. And how much they deserved something like birds of prey was for suicide squad?
The writing just makes me wanna table flip.
So example: Diane McClintock.
She was straight up a boring clichee pretty Girl Andrew Ryan had picked up from some bar where she was working (if I got that right from the book) and did his "I promise you heaven on earth if only you follow me and ill be passionate about it and nothing else" thing on her and she was impressed. Impressed by his strong character, his determination, his Charisma, his passion. She wanted to be less the empty pretty girl and more like him. She followed him blindly, loved him truly just to become nothing more than an accessory for social gatherings as soon as his interest had worn off. He made her his secretary after Elaine, his former secretary, decided for Bill and a family with him. (Bless them so much)
I assumr he didnt pick her because she was suited for this position, but simply because she was somewhat of his girlfriend and he could profit from that. And poor naive Diane probably still thought he believed in her, wanted to open doors for her, wanted to help her become successful as well, grow as a person.
I dont even wanna know what she thought about the "Jasmine Jolene Ryans favorite gal" posters all over Rapture. She still had the status of his girlfriend, attended dinner etc. With him. And then she gets him cheating on her pushed in her face all over Rapture? Ouch.
Then, New Years Eve 1959. The attack. She got severely injured and her mother fucking boyfriend couldn't make time in his busy schedule of martinis before 3 to visit her ONCE. Fucking ONCE.
So she tried to fix her face up, hoping Ryan would like her again like that. This woman had such a low self esteem at this point that she felt like the accident was something SHE was sorry for and had to work on so he would like her again.
In that one echo Ryan said something about suspecting her to have an affair with J.S. Steinman. At this point who could be mad at her honestly. Plus in the book it was written how he thought about whom of his friends he could pass her on to. Too much of a coward to just break up with her he tried to PASS HER ON LIKE DAMN SECOND HAND CLOTHING. FUCKS SAKE ANDY.
Okay okay focus focus.
So after he cheated on her publicly, dodged her as good as possible, didnt even visit her in hospital she was still on his side. She still supported him and his dream.
What made her turn on Ryan wasnt how he treated her. It was how he treated other people. And if that doesn't make her a good person who deserves a good ending I dont know who does. Oh WAIT. NO. THEY KEPT FUCKING HER OVER.
Okay so Diane finally notices what her fucktard of a boyfriend truly is and decided to join the resistance against him.
Diane-Naive-Pretty-Misstress-McClintock actually decided to "fuck everything" and just fight her ex and his stupid capitalism with firearms. Like I pictute her having the most pampered life ever, yet she just decides to fight for those people. Not because she had to. Not because Atlas payed her or something. She just decided to do the right thing in her eyes.
Im literally so emotional right now I feel like that is such a power move and I think we should worship her.
And this is where I'm getting angery at the writers for real.
This was such a nice plot. Such a good twist. 10/10 unpredictable, badass, breathtaking, show stopping... you know where im going.
But they decided "Nah were gonna let her seem like the bitch who sucked up to the both most powerful men and then get killed off just like that."
Why.
WHY?
WHY DID YOU DO THAT?!
It wasnt relevant to the plot, it didn't show more in depth about any character.
Whoever scripted this i just wanna talk....
Besides. Even if she knew that Atlas was Fontaine, and I dont think she had met Fontaine in person often enough to recognize his voice from a few words, but even IF she knew. Fucking Andrew Ryan traumatized her so much she probably would have high fived him about it.
I mean it wouldn't have fit his character to let her live, I get that but...
SHE JUST DIDNT DESERVE TO GET KILLED OFF BY ONE POWERHUNGRY GREEDY BASTARD AFTER SHE JUST ESCSPED ANOTHER ONE. WHERE IS THE JUSTICE?!
Remember when I said I'd talk about the women of Rapture? Here we have an essay about one of them alone and im angry enough to fistfight Ryans entire security and Atlas on my own.
So if you wanna chat with me about wholesome Diane headcanons or rage about it or I dont fucking know just please talk to me I need to talk about her okay?
Also I feel like my English gets worse the more emotional I get so you're welcome to read this in my aggressive German accent.
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