#87!Raph is well known for his snark
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#SEE NO BECAUSE#HE IS JUST LIKE 87 RAPH#GRABS YOU BY THE SHOULDERS. HE'S SNARKY#HE'S SURPRISINGLY OBSERVANT#AND! AND! HE HELPS WITH RESPONSIBILITY FROM THE BACK END (BEFORE HE'S APPOINTED LEADER)#87 RAPH IS ALL OF THOSE THINGS. THEY'RE BOTH SMART. THEY'RE SO SIMILAR.
GRABS YOU BY THE SHOULDERS BACK
that is the exact point I'm trying to make here thank u so much for seeing my vision
Rise!Leo: *Makes a dumb pun in the middle of a tense situation*
2012!Mikey: He's just like me fr.
2007!Mikey: He's just like me fr.
2003!Mikey: He's just like me fr.
1987!Mikey: Wow, he's just like Raph!
All Other Mikeys: *Turns to 87 & just stares*
#like seriously that's half the reason I made this post#everyone is constantly comparing Leon to mikey#or finding the subtle (and blatant) similarities between him & the other leos#but no one even THINKS about comparing him to the person he actually swapped with: RAPH!#and yeah he doesn't have many similarities to later iterations of Raph#since he doesn't have much interest in fighting or the anger issues#but you know who else lacks both of those aspects? 87!#87!Raph is well known for his snark#his avoidance of fights (especially ones he knows he won't win)#and less known for his quick thinking and plotting#he is literally described as ''cool but rude''#and Leon is 100% both of those things#I think part of it is kind of showing how both of these characters have essentially evolved to be each other over time#while still being stuck in the same positions#Leo has slowly become the ''cool'' one (as leader) and a strategic thinker (not to mention 2012's love of puns)#while Raph has become angrier often as a direct result of him disagreeing with how Leo is leading the group#so swapping their ''spots'' on the team is actually a brilliant way of bringing back the original roles without completely reverting#bc now Raph is in the position where he CAN'T rebel against the authority of the team#since he IS the authority#and Leo has to figure out who he is on the team when not the leader#(spoilers: he does not actually do this.#but at least he got to have a life outside of it for a bit before getting thrust back into the position)#so yeah.#I have a lot of feelings about these 2
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#like seriously that's half the reason I made this post#everyone is constantly comparing Leon to mikey#or finding the subtle (and blatant) similarities between him & the other leos#but no one even THINKS about comparing him to the person he actually swapped with: RAPH!#and yeah he doesn't have many similarities to later iterations of Raph#since he doesn't have much interest in fighting or the anger issues#but you know who else lacks both of those aspects? 87!#87!Raph is well known for his snark#his avoidance of fights (especially ones he knows he won't win)#and less known for his quick thinking and plotting#he is literally described as ''cool but rude''#and Leon is 100% both of those things#I think part of it is kind of showing how both of these characters have essentially evolved to be each other over time#while still being stuck in the same positions#Leo has slowly become the ''cool'' one (as leader) and a strategic thinker (not to mention 2012's love of puns)#while Raph has become angrier often as a direct result of him disagreeing with how Leo is leading the group#so swapping their ''spots'' on the team is actually a brilliant way of bringing back the original roles without completely reverting#bc now Raph is in the position where he CAN'T rebel against the authority of the team#since he IS the authority#and Leo has to figure out who he is on the team when not the leader#(spoilers: he does not actually do this.#but at least he got to have a life outside of it for a bit before getting thrust back into the position)#so yeah.#I have a lot of feelings about these 2
YOURE NOT LEAVING THIS IN THE TAGS. so i have a Few Thoughts abt this
87 raphael doesn't have the whole 'fighting for leader' thing because he already ACTS like the co-leader. he's the observant one, reminding leonardo that the place might be booby-trapped
^ in conjunction to this the way they subvert the trend in rise leads to a natural similarity in that way
87 donatello's actually the angry one i feel. like i should point that out. that boy can SNAP.
RISE IS SO EERILY SIMILAR TO 87 JUST IN A DIFFERENT TROPE. CMON IT IS. AAAAAA
can you imagine a fic where 87 raphael and rise leo bodyswap. please. plea
Rise!Leo: *Makes a dumb pun in the middle of a tense situation*
2012!Mikey: He's just like me fr.
2007!Mikey: He's just like me fr.
2003!Mikey: He's just like me fr.
1987!Mikey: Wow, he's just like Raph!
All Other Mikeys: *Turns to 87 & just stares*
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