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nikosdaydreams · 21 days ago
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alchemyfire · 12 days ago
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About Thermidor and The Incorruptible
I finally got to the end of the book. I still have the epilogue to read, but I can't handle another twenty pages today. So, here are few more excerpts:
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Thermidor is the most paradoxical of the great revolutionary days. It is a day of unrealized potential, of aborted insurrection, of unpredictable consequences. It is an episode without design, stumbled through by men who more resemble sleepwalkers than conspirators and their victims. It has entered revolutionary legend for both the right and the left, while the ingenuity of historians has been devoted to explaining why the expected did not happen. The action of 9 Thermidor is static, its drama internal and psychological. Above all 9 Thermidor is an end, and abrupt and unexpected end, and our catharsis is incomplete...
... With France no longer in danger of military destruction, it was widely held, the emergency government could be terminated. But Robespierre was gloomy, Saint-Just downcast, and the Jacobins were without energy. It was not, as has sometimes been argued, that Robespierre and his friends wanted to remain in power and that meant perpetuating the Terror despite the relaxation in the war crisis. Rather, the problem of returning the government to some peacetime basis seemed insoluble. The Revolution had become the work of committees. Convention, Club, and Commune had lost the initiative. The extraordinary and resilient energy that had been generated by his tripartite division of revolutionary activity was gone. To whom could authority be restored?...
...Now that the war was being won, many saw no reason to continue the emergency government, and especially no need to cater any longer to the demands of the sans-culottes. Robespierre's few implementations of the social democracy he envisioned had been tolerated, but barely. It was time, his enemies thought, to be done with this dangerous social tampering; it was time to reassert the rights of those who had hitherto sacrificed their own interests because they were frightened and thought they had no choice. Once the secret was out that the country was no longer in danger, those who had been forced to submit could seek their revenge...
...Robespierre was often absent from the Club, the Convention and the Committee. There were now weeks of silence, mute stratches spent at the Duplay's, perhaps gazing into the pleasant courtyard while exploring his mind, self, and heart. These retreats, a kind of internal emigration, signaled not only physical and psychic exhaustion, but times of depression, doubt, disgust, manifestations of the felt unattainability of all he had dreamed and preached... During these long silences all the synapses of the Revolution, which he had so carefully tended, were left unwatched. Yet the Revolutionary Government continued to function, indeed with grim efficiency. The organism had no further need of his voice. It still demanded the ability to speak, but others could provide the droning noises of uninspired human utterance. No more was now necessary. The heroic, creative days of the Revolution were over. Heroes were no longer needed...
...The speech (on 8 Thermidor), with its fatalism and self-pity enveloping all arguments and tinging all phrases, is unmistakably a testament. His enemies did not know they were going into battle with a beaten and self-condemned man. Robespierre did not appear vulnerable. His enemies attacked not because he was defenseless but because they believed they were doomed unless they destroyed him... It (the speech) reveals the isolation and despair of a man beyond human aid... The leit-motif of his speech is his death. But if he appears at moments resigned to death at the hands of his enemies, deeply concerned to ensure his apotheosis or at least write his own epitaph, yet he has not surrendered. The speech bristles with the old energy of anathema, the thunder of denunciation. He is resigned only to deliverance from the burdens of the Revolution, from responsibilities disproportionate to his strength, perhaps to his genius....
...What is curious is...that he left so much to chance, that he spoke without first having taken all necessary steps to see that things went his way. In this, too, he had returned to the relative political innocence of the first months of the Revolution, when he believed his sincerely felt words would persuade unaided. It is because he was often concerned more about the future than the present on 8 Thermidor that he innocently appeared before his colleagues...
...But if Robespierre's name is linked, reflexively, with the Terror, his name simultaneously is associated with rectitude, devotion to duty, loyalty, sincerity, and moral purity. Robespierre is familiar, in textbook and legend, to expert and amateur, as The Incorruptible... It is not a term of endearment or familiarity. It distances the man from us by elevating him into a moral entity. It is difficult to have great emotional affection for someone who is incorruptible. Then (as still) men felt uncomfortable with the power of virtue...
... Robespierre had by his conduct and his speech impressed his contemporaries with his moral qualities, which he lived and described. Even his fastidiousness of dress and manners did not detract from what was perceived as his sincere and austere virtue. He was able to persuade others to see him as he saw himself, to value in him what he himself thought most valuable, and to tie these qualities of self to the Revolution and to a particular political line...
...Robespierre's self-regarding virtue, his sincere simplicity of life, his persistent championship of democratic causes, especially of equality, all contributed to creating The Incorruptible. He had a kind of transparency of self. Although his revelations of self were public and even theatrical, he was without pretense. There was no suspicion of deviousness or duplicity. In revolution, much more quickly than in peacetime, affectation as well as self-seeking are exposed. Partly the intensity of political activity, partly the risks involved, partly the expectation that revolutionaries be different, that they be better than those they have overthrown, expose the charlatan. It is personal morality and integrity that are especially valued...
...In Robespierre men saw manifest one of their deepest convictions: the Revolution was morality in action. He was a just and righteous man, set apart from so many contemporaries. He was a man formed by the regenerative energy of the Revolution.
Despite his own efforts at enshrining himself as "the representative of the people" and those of his enemies at making him a monster, he is remembered as The Incorruptible. Because of the complexities of his character the epithet itself took on a richness of meaning. Robespierre died a poor man, but his incorruptibility went far beyond his honesty. He was chaste, immune to virtually all the seductions of the flesh. He was contemptuous of the pleasures and attractions that lured many a revolutionary from his austerity and then from his duty. He could be inflexible, deaf to the pleas of former friends, as when he shut his ears to the pleas of Lucile Desmoulins, the wife of his former comrade, at whose wedding he had stood witness. She shortly followed her husband to the guillotine. All these characteristics, both pleasing and repulsive, were expressed by The Incorruptible...
...Men who live with flamboyant virtue make others uneasy. Robespierre, once he had authority, made men tremble, both for their deeds and for their moral shortcommings, since he was incapable of separating the two... Although Robespierre was feared by many, he was less treacherous and deadly than both the cool administrators and passionate terrorists of the Revolution. It is often what a man says rather than what he does, that influences. Robespierre talked a good deal about punishment and Terror and moral laxity in others and consequently earned a sinister reputation. He morally browbeat his contemporaries, and they never forgot how unpleasant an experience that was. For the period of Robespierre's ascendancy, during the final year of his life, men felt powerless before his superior virtue because it was enforced by the Terror. Moral intimidation is humiliating; physical intimidation is not...
...Robespierre saw beyond the practicalities, beyond the mundane and often brutal aspects of the Revolution, into a world not yet born. He was able to show this world to his contemporaries and to persuade them that the birth trauma of liberty and equality was unavoidable, would be survived, would not permanently disfigure the future, and, although painful and bloody, was not evil... The Revolution is the price men must pay for freedom. The great speeches - with a few notable exceptions - are not tactical analyses of what has been and is, but descriptions and apotheoses of a world yet unrealized. These visions of the future, this ability to express the restless longings of contemporaries, was another of the gifts of The Incorruptible... "Our destiny,..is to found on earth the empire of wisdom, of justice and of virtue."...
..."If fortune favors the cause of virtue, of courage and of liberty," he said, "the victory is ours." But even if fortune was against the Revolution, "the Republic and liberty are imperishable and... we will not all be destroyed". If revolutionaries endured, so would the Revolution, for just as the republic lay in the hearts of republicans, so the revolution lay in the hearts of revolutionaries. The spirit of revolution is imperishable...
...The Incorruptible was a being who did not compromise with the enemy. For Robespierre the Revolution was an enormous civil war that had to be fought to its end. Only the unconditional surrender of the counterrevolution was thinkable... The correct line was not one of accommodation and could not be abandoned. Others had changed, others had deserted, but not Robespierre, not The Incorruptible...
..."Who does not believe himself elevated above humanity itself in knowing that it is not only for a people that we fight but for the universe, for the men alive today and for those who will live in the future?" Victory would come "above all from the energy of our souls, the elevation of our characters, the purity of our principles, the prudence of our undertakings." Here is a grandiose vision and purpose. There is nothing mean-spirited about Robespierre's understanding of revolution or history or self. His ideas have a grandeur that comes of spaciousness as well as precision.
The counterrevolution, on the contrary, mired man in his vices and prejudices. Egoism became the most significant word in Robespierre's vocabulary of denunciation. The antidote to this poison was truth. The Revolution was "as immortal as truth, as invincible as reason".
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(Extracts from the book The Revolutionary Career of Maximilien Robespierre by David P. Jordan)
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Why are you so reluctant to talk about Desmoulins? (Genuine question!)
Pierre-Germain Gateau taking over. You heard of me? Good. Thuillier is a total mess. Locked himself in his room. Keeps crying and vomiting. Those jean-f*****s poisoned him, you know that? Well. He can't do his job so I'm answering for him.
Here's a good answer for you: this isn't about Desmoulins.
If he was around, would you ask him about Saint-Just in Germinal? Ah, perhaps, and you'd get pages after pages of spiteful, slanderous whining. Is this what you like?
Wait... I just heard a groan behind me. Saint-Just, is that you? Thank God, man! You hadn't made a noise for so long I was worried sick! Just staring out the window at nothing, completely still, completely silent--what? What'd you say? What do you mean "my answer is too harsh"? I'm sending it anyway! You put me in charge!
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anotherhumaninthisworld · 1 year ago
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Fouché in his memoirs (1825):
Tallien contended for two lives, of which one was then dearer to him than his own: he therefore resolved upon assassinating the future dictator, even in the Convention itself. But what a hazardous chance was this! Robespierre’s popularity would have survived him, and we should have been immolated to his manes. I therefore dissuaded Tallien from an isolated enterprise, which would have destroyed the man, but preserved his system. 
Also Fouché, as reported in De 1800 à 1812. Un aide de champ de Napoléon. Mémoires du général compte de Ségar (1894):
…I persisted; and, addressing all the enemies of the Dictator, either separately or in meetings that I convened as head of public education, I reassured them, encouraged them, and got the Committee to call Robespierre before it to defend itself. It was putting him in a false position, he did not accept it; he refused to present himself and confined himself to the Jacobins, where I proposed to have him attacked, seized as a rebel and thrown into the river! We were preparing the means when the 9th of Thermidor arrived, the day when Tallien, single-handedly, unexpectedly, without having warned us, without knowing our project, warning us, denounced Robespierre as the tyrant of his colleagues!
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chaotic-history · 3 months ago
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I'm dying at you putting Sade on that cake. Like. I get you. For me, it's so difficult to resolve all of the insane, terrible things he wrote and did, with his portrait looking like *that.* That portrait to me is unfortunately such peak late 1700s handsomeness 😭😭
(Though I must say that whenever I think about him, I can't help but think of the fact that Napoleon himself ordered his arrest after hearing about his books. Idk i just find it so absurdly funny, considering how much other shit was going on at the time.)
Lmaoo fun fact, I picked the cake itself based off de Sade's cake request to his wife when he was in Vincennes:
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But yeah, de Sade's a really weird person to be interested in for me, cause for all my other historical figures, I have a concrete reason I can give as to why I like them, even when they've also done shitty stuff. But Sade? I have no idea. His personality sucks and while I don't think his writing is bad (120 Days excepted), it's not good enough to be a whole reason to like him.
Tbh I think the being there while so much other shit was going on is part of it. Maybe he'd be less interesting if he were exactly the same but lived in boring times. But the dude who got arrested for his book by Napoléon himself and who left the Bastille twelve days before it was stormed and was supposed to be executed on 9 Thermidor but only got away because it was 9 Thermidor has to be interesting. (Or maybe I should be giving him a bit more credit. Who knows.)
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citizen-card · 7 months ago
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i think it’s just because they do stuff together a lot 😭
is it just me or have there been a lot more collot + billaud posts recently
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robespapier · 5 months ago
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Since it won the poll I'm posting the whole thing. The context: Robespierre visits David on the 8 Thermidor evening, together they stare at David's unfinished Tennis Court Oath. Robespierre asks "why did you draw me like this (clutching my chest in patriotic transport)?", "You are the only one who understood the meaning of the Revolution" replies David. As he leaves Robespierre says "Next time, draw me like the others."
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David was left alone. He lifted a veil that was covering a drawing in dark ink. It was representing the same people, but naked. Robespierre was depicted with bulging pectoral, his muscles taut. His straight penis was rising up between his strong thighs. How would Robespierre have reacted, had he seen himself drawn like this?
This is no great translation, but I tried doing justice to the way the original is worded as if David gave him a patriotic hard-on. Which he very much didn't. Robespierre has the same generic dick as everyone else in the naked draft, but I can't believe the author made me go and check.
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aedesluminis · 20 days ago
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Resources on Prieur de la Côte-d'Or
I decided it was about time to compile a convenient list with all the information and resources I could find about Claude-Antoine Prieur, also known as Prieur de la Côte-d'Or.
It's very much a work in progress: some posts, those without a link, are yet to be written. The list will be updated and edited with time.
♢ Biographies
Full books
Paul Gaffarel - Prieur de la Côte-d'Or, Librairie Noury, Dijon (1900).
Georges Bouchard - Prieur de la Côte-d'Or, un organisateur de la victoire, Librairie Historique R. Claveruil, Paris (1946).
(Not only I plan to transcribe both of them in a lighter, more readable format, but also to write a post comparing the two, though this should wait until I finish reading them fully. For now, from what I could see, none of the two could be considered a definitive Prieur biography: Paul Gaffarel didn't have access to Prieur's personal papers, resulting in a very incomplete work and inaccuracies; as far as Bouchard is concerned, he was no historian but a chemist and it shows both in his very superficial interpretation of the historical period in which Prieur lived and in the uncritical way in which he analyses primary accounts and sources about the latter.
For anyone interested in Prieur's life, I would recommend you to start from the 1946 one: despite the many criticism I personally have towards it, it's more complete, since Bouchard was granted access to Claude-Antoine's papers.)
Summaries
Timeline for Prieur's life
"Profile card" by @saintjustitude.
Translation of Gainot's entry on Prieur mentioned in Dictionnaire des membres du Comité de Salut Public
♢ Primary Sources
Correspondence and personal writings
Prieur's letter to Louis XVI on the importance of having a unified metric system in France
Prieur's letter to Guyton dated 10 Thermidor an II (28 July 1794)
Prieur's speech of 3 Germinal an III
Prieur's last written letter (to Simonne Frilley)
C.A. Prieur - Révelations sur le Comité de Salut Public (I plan to translate them all into English eventually)
Modern transcription of Prieur's first work on the metric system: Mémoire sur la nécessité et les moyens de rendre uniformes, dans le royaume, toutes les mesures d’étendue et de pesanteur
PNG Vector of Prieur's signature (by @senechalum)
Some excerpts from Prieur's first work on the metric system: 1. On the benefit of using the decimal scale 2. Conclusion of the memoir (summary of Prieur’s proposal)
Prieur's speech on the occasion of his admission to Dijon's Academy of Science
CSP decrees written and/or signed by him
Copy of the Letter of the Committee of Public Safety to the Directory of the District of Valence dated 19 Pluviôse [Year II]
♢ Secondary Sources
Camille Richard - Le Comité de Salut Public et les fabrications de guerre sous la Terreur, Rieder Ed., Paris, (1922) (A very interesting book on the warfare during the Terror (93-94), explaining Prieur, Carnot and Lindet's duties and contributions.)
Bertrand Barère on Prieur
Paul Arbelet on Prieur
Paul Arbelet - La jeunesse de Prieur de la Côte-d'Or, Revue du dix-huitième siècle (1916)
Bulletin de la Sabix - n°8 (décembre 1991) (it's a small journal written in French with some articles about the founding of the Polytechnic School and Prieur's role in it)
♢ Posts
Prieur's personality: an introduction by @saintjustitude
Various portraits
Quotes (by him and on him)
Prieur's baptism certificate
Prieur's family crest
On Prieur's family
On Prieur's daughter (some additions by @nesiacha)
On Prieur's disability
Charles Bossut on Prieur's school perfomance at the École de Mézières
On Carnot and Prieur’s friendship (1, 2, 3, 4)
Prieur was never named Compte de l'Empire by Napoléon
On the mutual dislike between Prieur and Bonaparte
Historical inaccuracies in Arte's documentary Un mètre pour mesurer le monde
Prieur's contributions to the establishment of a new unified metric system
How Prieur and Carnot were elected members of the Committee of Public safety
Prieur's duties and contributions as member of the CSP
Prieur's contributions in the foundation and political defense of the École Polytechnique
Prieur's attendance at the CSP
Prieur's depiction in media
The bizarre legend about Prieur knowing that Louis-Charles Capet was freed from the Temple and substituted with another child
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writing-for-life · 4 months ago
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Sandman Predictions
So we’ve been speculating wildly what the remainder of The Sandman might look like on here and in our community (join us!) for a while.
And I thought it would be fun to put my predictions to paper (so to speak) so I can be embarrassed about them later and laugh at how wrong they were 🙈
Taking all the casting announcements and BTS in consideration I’ve collected like a magpie (check out my #sandman S2 tag), I will have a stab at it…
Only 12 Episodes or Aiming for Renewal?
Both is possible, but I am more and more leaning we’ll get the whole thing in twelve episodes in two batches of five each with two wraparound episodes (one will be AGoY/THCoL in the middle, one the last three issues of The Wake).
We know the episode names for six episodes that are directed by Jamie Childs. That doesn’t mean they were in order, or that there won’t be other directors involved. It wouldn’t surprise me if they at least went for female writers/directors for AGoY/THCoL, and if that’ll be the episode that separates (or rather connects) SoM and Brief Lives. So here comes my totally unhinged prediction for 12 episodes, including the titles we know (mind you, they might also be working titles). The chapters from the comics are to be seen as fluid and not absolute, because there are a lot of scenes that are not linear in chronological terms and will probably be shuffled around a bit:
Batch One
“More Devils Than Vast Hell Can Hold” (that title is a direct quote from AMND): A Midsummer Night’s Dream, SoM Prologue & Tales in the Sand flashback
“Season of Mists”: SoM ch. 1-3, ch. 4 is getting dropped
“The Ruler of Hell”: SoM ch. 5 through Epilogue
TBA: AGoY & THCoL “Brief Lives”: Brief Lives ch. 1-3. Maybe the first parts of Thermidor (could also be ep. 5).
“Brief Lives”: Brief Lives ch. 1-5 “The Song of Orpheus”: Brief Lives ch. 4-6 and The Song of Orpheus segueing into
“The Song of Orpheus”: Brief Lives ch. 6. Bast is an excellent cut to SoO. “Family Blood”: Brief Lives ch. 7-9. Parts of Thermidor will also be in there.
Batch Two
“Family Blood”: Brief Lives ch. 7-9 TBA: TKO ch. 1-4
TBA: TKO ch. 1-4 TBA: TKO ch. 5-7
TBA: TKO ch. 5-8 TBA: TKO ch. 8-10
TBA: TKO ch. 11-13
TBA: The Wake (all of it apart from…)
TBA: Sunday Mourning/Exiles/The Tempest
Edit 19/09:
[strikeouts in text done on same day]
So I’ve read The High Cost of Living again over the past few days because it didn’t want to leave me alone, and I’ve now convinced myself we’ll get it as a side-plot to Brief Lives in episodes 4-6, and that we’ll get tiny bits of AGoY, (mostly to set up Wanda/Ruby for Brief Lives and Hazel/Foxglove for THCoL) as a side plot to SoM in episodes 1-3. Spoilers ahead, so skip if that’s not your thing:
Both Sexton and Orpheus have a death wish. I don’t want to drag this out too much because the post is long enough as it is, but suffice it to say, Sexton rethinks after spending a day with Didi/Death, while Orpheus is granted his wish. And this is what ultimately sets Morpheus on his own path. The meaning of “So live” would be beautifully contrasted that way because it has different meaning to different people, depending on their own experience. Add to that Death spending a “brief life” for one day herself, and I can somewhat see the vision.
Failing this, THCoL could also be a special in episode 13 that hasn’t been announced yet (I’d rather have Overture though if I’m honest).
In more detail:
A Midsummer Night’s Dream and The Tempest will be bookends, one before SoM, one after The Wake (they don’t necessarily have to be full episodes, they could be half each and make up roughly an hour combined. It really depends on overall runtime).
We’ll kick off batch one with Season of Mists (maybe the prologue and will also be in episode 1–there are several points in AMND that would make good cuts into SoM), and Tales in the Sand won’t be a full episode but incorporated as flashbacks (maybe around the family dinner). After we conclude SoM, we’ll get one episode of AGoY will be a side-plot to SoM, as per above (if it happens at all), and leads into THCoL as a side-plot to Brief Lives as per my edit above, because there’s a through-line in there for Fox and Hazel, plus we can set up Wanda/Ruby for Brief Lives.
Bonus 1:
Johanna will be somehow involved in SoM (she’s the Hellblazer after all), and we’ll get her to hook up with Murphy. No need for a longwinded introduction of Thessaly. Or, failing that, we just cut out the love interest completely, Morpheus does his moping session because Nada rebuffs him again, but Jo will still take Thessaly’s place as the crone.
We’ll move into roughly three episodes of Song of Orpheus/Thermidor and Brief Lives from there. Wanda will die in Brief Lives like Ruby, not in AGoY.
We finish the first batch with Morpheus alone on his chair after you-know-what 😩
Second batch: TKO and The Wake. Little bits of World’s End will be woven in where it fits, maybe already in the first batch as well. Same goes for little bits of standalone issues from Fables and Reflections.
Jo will take Thessaly’s place and protect Lyta because she’d just believe it’s the right thing to do (she also sympathises because she lost Astra). Whether she also holds a deeper grudge depends on if they set them up as having an affair or not.
My guess is four episodes TKO and one for the Wake. Sunday Mourning and Exiles will be done in one episode. The movie concept art that Jill Thompson did ages ago showed Daniel in the distance on the beach with the other three, and I think that’s a good tie-in point to lead into Exiles. Even the Tempest might fit in there if they make the last episode more feature-length. And you’ve got your two Shakespeare bookends.
Bonus 2:
Hob will be reinstalled to his narrative purpose because at least half the fandom will drop him like a hot potato and ship Morpheus x Cluracan instead. Because:
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If you think 12 episodes are tight: Yes, if you want to see every detail and issue of the comics. But not everything you see in a graphic novel translates well to screen, plus you don’t perceive time the same way. What takes ages to read can be something like 30 seconds in a film. Add to this that the movie that never happened was conceptualised as a trilogy if I’m not mistaken, so probably 6-8 hours planned runtime in total. So they always had a definite idea how to streamline it, and they were planning for it before. 12 episodes with 45 to 60min each give us more to play with than a movie-trilogy (plus we can already take the time off that we spent on S1). I think it’s doable, but of course it means tightening arcs and dropping stuff.
However, I’ll be honest with you: With all that’s been going on, and having seen that they filmed right through until the end, I’d rather have them wrap up now. Because I honestly can’t see a S3 happening after all that’s already been cancelled and put on hold because of you-know-what (I’m thinking of Disney shelving The Graveyard Book and Amazon putting GO on hold and sitting on the Audible despite it being finished).
But also: These decisions have likely been made long before these considerations even became an issue: Renewal was on a knife’s edge, and choices were made back then we can only guess at. Scripts aren’t written over night, neither are sets changed around wildly on a whim (plus actors aren’t just tied to one project and can’t just willy-nilly change their schedules). And some sets for TKO were already confirmed and booked in May. So they were always going to do what we’ve seen in BTS shots. It’s not a sudden development.
In any case: If they aimed for more seasons than two, I think this prediction could still hold in general, we’ll just get it more fleshed out. In that case, I’d say 10 episodes of SoM and Brief Lives (5 each), and A Midsummer Night’s Dream and THCoL as standalones with the rest as side-plots woven in (that includes AGoY). Then S3 comprising TKO and The Wake with more space for standalone episodes and World’s End. Maybe even Overture as a special. I very much doubt they would go for more than three seasons in total though.
So these are my predictions, now I’d love to hear yours…
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empiredesimparte · 7 months ago
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Live broadcast of ‘Le Sacre de Napoléon V’ on the national channel Francesim 2, hosted by Stéphane Bernard
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(Herald) Their Most August and Most Glorious Imperial Majesties, Emperor Napoleon V and Empress Charlotte of the French!
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(Stéphane Bernard) You have just heard the herald. With solemnity, he announces the entrance of Their Majesties into the cathedral. The Grand Marshal accompanies Their Majesties. Meanwhile, the imperial family gathers in the choir of Notre-Dame.
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(Stéphane Bernard) On the left, we can see the Master of Ceremonies, and on the right stands the palace usher. They will play a role in the Emperor's procession, as we will have the opportunity to witness.
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⚜ Le Sacre de Napoléon V | N°8 | Francesim, Paris, 28 Thermidor An 230
The imperial cortege arrives at Notre-Dame cathedral in Paris. The coronation ceremony is about to begin. It was broadcast live on television by Stéphane Bernard, the famous journalist for the crowned heads in Francesim.
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⚜ Traduction française
(Héraut d'armes) Leurs Très Augustes et Très Glorieuses Majestés Impériales, l'Empereur Napoléon V et l'Impératrice Charlotte des Français !
(Stéphane Bernard) Vous venez d'écouter le héraut d'armes. Avec solennité, il annonce l'entrée de Leurs Majestés à l'intérieur de la cathédrale.
(Stéphane Bernard) Le Grand Maréchal accompagne Leurs Majestés avec tout le sérieux protocolaire requis. Pendant ce temps, la famille impériale se rassemble dans le choeur de Notre-Dame pour marquer le début de cette cérémonie historique.
(Stéphane Bernard) À gauche, nous pouvons apercevoir le maître des cérémonies, tandis qu'à droite, se tient l'huissier du palais. Ils joueront un rôle central dans le cortège de l'Empereur, comme nous aurons l'occasion de le constater.
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microcosme11 · 9 months ago
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A very sweet letter from his stepfather
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Saint-Cloud, 8 thermidor an XIII (27 juillet 1805).
Je suis instruit que vous avez des correspondances avec une nommée D—. Je ne sais pas si vous savez que cette femme n'est qu'une fille, une intrigante, dont la police s'est souvent servie. Une femme de cette espèce ne devrait pas recevoir de lettres de vous; c'est la boue de Paris. Je crois devoir vous en prévenir, que cela vous serve de règle.
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I am informed that you have corresponded with someone named D—. I don't know whether you know that this woman is nothing but a girl, an intriguer, who has often been utilized by the police. A woman of this type should not receive letters from you; this is the scum of Paris. I believe I must warn you, this will serve you as a rule.
Napoléon adultère by Hector Fleischmann, 1909
BnF Gallica
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avergehistoryenjoyer · 2 years ago
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Ladies and gentlemen, it’s official! I’m writing a musical!
For those of you in the community who have known me for a while, this is nothing new, but I’ve been working on it for quite awhile, so I finally want to unveil what I have so far.
The show is officially called “Tyrant! The Story of Robespierre” or just “Tyrant!” for short, and here’s my first concept for the album cover below!
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As for the actual story and songs, right now I’m planning on having 16 songs per act, and I’ll format the songs I’ve written or am currently in the process of writing! 
 Italic = work in progress
Bold = fully written
With that being said, this is the song catalogue and all I’ve gotten done so far!
Act 1:
Tyrant! (Show opener) - immediately after his death
Address for the King - early childhood
Never shall we part - transition from childhood to adulthood, meets Camille
Song addressed to Miss Henriette - young adulthood
And So I Reminisce - trio song for the siblings
He Just Can’t Stop - lawyer career in Arras
Let Us Speak/We Swear - Estates general + tennis court oath
Camille’s Address (Bring It Down) - Storming of the bastille
Hey Ladies! (Theroigne’s song + Women’s March on Versailles)
Bienvenue aux Jacobins - Joins the Jacobin club and meets Danton, gets elected president of the club
Never shall we part (1st reprise) - Camille’s marriage to Lucile
Escape (Louis + Marie flee Paris, Champ de Mars massacre)
There’s Safety Here (Robespierre meets Maurice Duplay, moves into the Duplay house)
This Means War! (Speeches against the war and Brissotins, war gets declared anyways)
The Tuileries Tango (Storming of the Tuileries and overthrow of the monarchy)
Liberté, Egalité, Fraternité For All (Establishment of the republic, Robespierre at his height, his big “I want” song)
Act 2:
Incorruptible (Saint-Just’s debut and Robespierre’s election to the National convention)
So Ends the Reign of Tyranny (Louis’ trial and execution)
Bienvenue aux committee/ Bienvenue le Jacobins (reprise) (Appointment to the CPS)
Choose Your Side/And So I Reminisce (reprise) (Charlotte and Augustine’s fight, fracture in the family, duet with Élèonore, PLATONIC, NOT ROMANTIC)
Principio Ad Finem/ A late night’s walk (“darker” ‘I want’ song, NOT A VILLAIN SONG )
What is he doing? (Camille publishes his paper and says stupid stuff)
Never Shall We Part (2nd and 3rd reprises) (Max and SJ duet, Camille’s denouncement from friends to enemies)
A Meeting/Make Him a Monster (CPS meeting, Thermidorian villain song)
You’re Unwell (Eleonore and SJ duet, Max falls ill/ slowly loosing his sanity)
So Ends the Reign of Tyranny/ Liberté, Egalité, Fraternité for All (reprise) (Arrests and executions of Camille, Danton and their followers, closest thing to a villain song for Robespierre)
This Glorious Day (Festival of the Supreme Being, more Thermidorian conspiring)
Principio Ad Finem (reprise) (Max writes his 8 Thermidor speech)
My Final Bow (8 Thermidor speeches for the convention and the Jacobins)
We Swear/Let Me Speak! (9 Thermidor denouncement and arrest)
Requiem (Hotel De Ville siege, bullet to the jaw, death, 11th hour power ballad)
May You Ne’er Be Forgotten (basically charlotte’s ‘who lives who dies who tells your story’, her 11th hour power ballad, grand finale of the show)
I know that was a lot thrown at y’all, and obviously I’ve still got a long ways to go, but I’ll be working hard at it all summer, and I hope to have at least half of the first act finished by the end of this summer! I’ll keep working on asks too now that my schedule’s freed up, but I thought it’d be a fun announcement to share with all of you for Max’s birthday, and I can’t wait for you to see the rest of it! Love you all! ❤️❤️❤️
-Syd
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anotherhumaninthisworld · 3 months ago
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Historians having takes on frev women that make me go 😐 compilation
Sexually frustrated in her marriage to a pompous civil servant much older than herself, [Madame Roland] may have found Danton’s celebrated masculinity rather uncomfortable. Danton (1978) by Norman Hampson, page 77.
The Robespierres sent their sister to Arras because that was their hometown, the family home, where they had relatives, uncles, aunts and friends, like Buissart who they didn’t cease to remain in correspondence with, even in the middle of the Terror. There, among them, Charlotte would not be alone; she would find advice, rest, the peace necessary to heal her nervousness and animosity. Away from Mme Ricard, who she hated, away from Mme Duplay, who she detested, she would enjoy auspicious calmness. It is Le Bon that the Robespierres will charge with escorting their sister to this neccessary and soothing exile. […] If there is a damning piece in Charlotte Robespierre's case, it is this one (her interrogation, held July 31 1794). She seems to be caught in the act of accusing this Maximilien whom she rehabilitates in her Memoirs. She is therefore indeed a hypocrite, unworthy of the great name she bears, and which she dishonors the very day after the holocaust of 10 Thermidor. Charlotte Robespierre et Guffroy (1910) in Annales Révolutionnaires, volume 3 (1910) page 322, and Charlotte Robespierre et ses mémoires (1909) page 93-94, both by Hector Fleishmann.
Elisabeth, as she was popularly called, was barely past her twelfth birthday, younger even by three years than Barere’s own mother when she was given in marriage. On the following day the guests assembled again in the little church of Saint-Martin at midnight to attend the wedding ceremony of the handsome charmer and the bewildered child. Dressed in white, clasping in her arms a yellow, satin-clad  doll that Bertrand had given her — so runs the tradition — she marched timidly to the altar, looking more like a maiden making her first communion than a woman celebrating a binding sacrament. Perhaps the  doll, if doll there was, filled her eye, but certainly she could not fail to note how handsome her husband was. Bertrand Barere; a reluctant terrorist (1962) by Leo Gershoy, page 32.
The young nun who bore the name of Hébert did not hide her fate. She did not wish to prolong a life stifled from her childhood in the cloister, branded in the world by the name she bore, fighting between horror and love for the memory of her husband, unhappy everywhere. Histoire des Girondins (1848) by Alphonse de Lamartine, volume 8, page 60.
Lucile in prison showed more calmness than Camille. Before the tribunal, she seemed to possess neither fear nor hope, she denied having taken an active role in the prison conspiracy. What did it matter to her the answer they were trying to extract from her? They said they wanted her guilty? Very well! She would be condemned and join Camille. This was what she said again when she was told that she would suffer the same fate as her husband: ”Oh, what joy, in a few hours I’m going to see Camille again!” Camille et Lucile Desmoulins: un couple dans la tourmente (1986) by Jean Paul Bertaud, page 293.
What did it matter to Lucile whether she was accused or defended? She had no longer any pretext for living in this world. She was one of those heroines of conjugal love who are more wife than mother. Besides, Horace lived, and Camille was dead. It was of the absent only that she thought. As for the child, would not Madame Duplessis act a mother's part to him? The grandmother would watch over the orphan. If Lucile had lived, she could have done nothing but weep over the cradle, thinking of Camille. Camille Desmoulins and his wife; passages from the history of the Dantonists founded upon new and hitherto unpublished documents (1876) by Jules Claretie.
Having been widowed at the age of 23 [sic] years, Élisabeth Duplay remarried a few years later to the adjutant general Le Bas, brother of her first husband, and kept the name which was her glory. She lived with dignity, and all those who have known her, still beautiful under her crown of white hair, have testified to the greatness of her sentiments and austerity of her character. She died at an old age, always loyal to the memory of the great dead she had loved and whose memory she, all the way to her final day, didn’t cease to honor and cherish. As for the lady of Thermidor, Thérézia Cabarrus, ex-marquise of Fontenay, citoyenne Tallien, then princess of Chimay, one knows the story of her three marriages, without counting the interludes. She had, as one knows, three husbands living at the same time. Now compare these two existances, these two women, and tell me which one merits more the respect and the sympathy of good men. Histoire de Robespierre et du coup d’état du 9 thermidor (1865) by Louis Ernest Hamel, volume 3, page 402.
Fel free to comment which one was your favorite! 😀
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chaotic-history · 1 month ago
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HAPPY SADE DEATH-IVERSARY TO ALL WHO CELEBRATE 🥳
Every time I think about his death I still go mildly insane bc seeing all the people at Picpus who were killed like 8 or 9 Thermidor fucked me up and that WOULD'VE been Sade he specifically would've been executed at the guillotine that the bodies went to Picpus from but NO the fucker escaped. of all the people executed then it had to be HIM that got out. not the Noailles or literally anyone else !! just the worst motherfucker that it possibly could've been
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citizen-card · 4 months ago
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national convention deputies hearing Robespierre's 8 Thermidor speech
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robespapier · 5 months ago
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Things Jacques Ravenne, author of La Chute, a French Revolution novel set on the 8, 9 and 10 Thermidor published in 2020, should be guillotined for:
1. Robespierre saying his sister Charlotte was "never beautiful nor intelligent" in a conversation with Bonbon about Charlotte and Fouché
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2. Eleonore Duplay being in love with Robespierre and going to the Convention to see him give speeches but being described as "not caring about politics" (she just likes seeing Robespierre be applauded):
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"Is he a friend of Maximilien ?" asked Eleonore, who had no interest in politics"
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