#14x17 supernatural

[winchestergifs]

For Bex's Birthday Bash 3.0 Prompt ☇ Broken

You are the most selfless, loving human being I will ever know.

[inacatastrophicmind]

Cas + his trucks

[traumatizedsam]

14.17, game night script

[shirtlesssammy]

Dean Winchester every day -- 303/326

Supernatural 14x17//Game Night

[winchestress]

gotta say

[horrorshow]

SUPERNATURAL 14.17 Game Night

[soullessjack]

jack killing nick

[captainchilly]

One Castiel Quote per Episode 120/136 → 14.17 “GAME NIGHT"

[trialssam]

jack asking sam's opinion because he cares about what he thinks <3

[farenmaddox]

What does it actually mean that Jack killed Felix the snake?

a.k.a. Jack didn't kill Mary, pt. 2

I wanted to make a separate post from my other post about how I think Jack didn't kill Mary to talk more about the snake. In that post, I brought up Felix only briefly, as an explanation for Jack's state of being at the time: "soulless, trying to do the right thing in spite of that, very in-control of himself and his powers." But I have like a million thoughts on the snake, so.

In-universe, Jack was doing what he thought was right. His three dads, whom he looks to for cues on right vs. wrong, were implicitly if not explicitly telling him the snake's life didn't matter. They gave zero shits about that snake. "hmmmm try feeding him this variety of foods that are comically inappropriate and keep him in this tiny box, IDC man." Like, at any time, Google and veterinarians were options, but none of them could be arsed to tell Jack about those options. Like, yes, Jack is a grown man, but also he's only been on the planet for two years and he doesn't know everything!!!

So clearly (to Jack, based on the messages he is getting), the snake's life/health have no real value, and since the suffering is caused by how bad Felix misses his original owner, the best option is to send him where he won't suffer anymore. Like... I get it. This is not how I (a person with life experience and pet ownership experience as well as possession of a soul) would handle the situation. But for Jack, I get it!!!

When it gets absolutely maddening is when you think about the snake symbolically, and what Felix might possibly represent:

Satan in the Garden, his father Lucifer, temptation toward selfishness and lies and away from Paradise and truth

the poisonous death caused by being in the closet/ashamed of one's own queer desire (14x14 is one hell of an episode and boy do I need to make a separate post about Jack's relationship to Cas and Jack saving Cas from being poisoned to death by his repression of his queer desire and Cas dying because he stopped repressing it while Chuck is still running the show, then [we're told, we don't see it, I'm so suspicious] Jack saving him again once Jack is God. ANYWAYYYYYY.)

the snake eating a chicken egg fable a.k.a. the entire narrative concept that Jack is either the snake who cannot help its nature or the bait they must use to rid themselves of their enemy

So you have the snake standing in for at least one but likely all three things. And then you have to just be like, "Actually it's incredible that he killed the snake. He has rejected his birthright, he has rejected repression of self, and he has basically said that he is the secret third thing that is neither the snake nor the egg." It seems like we should actually celebrate this?

But we can only see the symbolism because we are outside of the story. Sam, Dean, and Cas are in the story, and what they see is a kid with no soul has just killed his pet, which as a storytelling device means he is going to escalate to worse things, and his three dads (who can't be arsed to find a vet) are right to be worried and take that a certain way.

But then you look at Jack's "escalation" and it's... accidentally hurting a girl who didn't trust his control over his powers, even though he had excellent control, actually, and then immediately healing her and being very upset that she's hurt. Hmmmm. We're then supposed to believe he randomly loses all control and kills someone he loves, for absolutely no reason, because in storytelling that's what happens after a character reveals they are soulless enough to kill a pet. And guess who the storyteller is??? (You don't have to guess. It's Chuck.) Chuck knows how the story goes, and he knows that a human death is what comes next in convincing them to see Jack as a threat, and he knows exactly who should die to ensure Dean does his job in the narrative (it sure isn't Nick! Whom Jack did kill and whom Dean would literally buy Jack a beer for killing in any other circumstances! Symbolically killing Lucifer as he was unable to do before!). It is wildly inconsistent with Jack's motivations and actions for him to fly off the handle and kill Mary, but that's the story Chuck needs to see, so he makes it happen.

So for the characters, who are stuck in Chuck's story, Jack is escalating his capacity for violence and killing loved ones. We, who are outside, can see the symbolic meaning and see that actually Jack is outside with us, rejecting the entire narrative. He literally killed Chuck's narrative! (But he didn't kill Mary.)

[vammppyre]

ughhh mary and jack and no soul and JACK IN THE BOX :(

[inacatastrophicmind]

[idjits-areus]

Just some things Nick said in 14x17 that took me out:

"We both know what it's like to be hog-tied to a nuclear warhead, man."

"Even your three dads..."

"...Kermit the profit...."

[shirtlesssammy]

Castiel every day so often -- 123/139

Supernatural 14x17//Game Night

[winchestress]

[spnscripthunt-inactive]

On the left is our completed 14.13 'Lebanon' which will be a raffle prize for our final fundraiser in November:

Jeffrey Dean Morgan (SPNNJ 23)

Jensen Ackles, Misha Collins, Jared Padalecki (SPNCHI 23)

Samantha Smith (SPNSF 23)

On the right is our "work in progress" 14.17 'Game Night'

Mark P (SPNNJ 23)

Samantha Smith (SPNSF 23)

TK: Alex Calvert, Momento Con 2023 (we couldn't get a discounted/free auto for him, if we're paying full price he's $15 cheaper at Momento Con, we'll also add him to The Winchesters pilot there)