#(tho to be fair to the uni students i was with they'd all been taking classes together for years when i joined for a 1yr study abroad)

[trivalentlinks]

horrified to learn this morning that the guy i took mma classes from when i lived in england is a close personal friend of andrew tate's

[lycan-troth]

Wow, I'm responding to this rlly late, all I can say is that being a third year uni student is rough. Lmao. I'm graduating this month soon. I'm trying not to think on it too hard so I don't freak out, haha. ANYWAY...ASB Ryan trying to trick Chris into doing stuff on v-day sounds about right, lol. Trying to be all sneaky and clueless. And succeeding, only bcs Chris is oblivious to it. The candy thing is cute! Makes me wonder if Chris would be willing to eat it for 2 reasons. With his tastes the candy could be too sweet? Or maybe he likes the gesture so much that he doesn't want to eat it. Maybe it makes a part of him feel like eating Ryan instead, lol. The wolf peeking through a bit. Kaylee teasing Chris about it would be funny, meanwhile Caleb is quietly processing it somewhere. I like the fact that in your writing Ryan would do anything and somewhat enjoy it as long as it's with Chris. Like the hiking and the trips for supplies in town. Being outdoors in general. It's just... sweet. Which as you say is the whole vibe of ASB. Them being awkward and quietly yearning.

GP, as you say, is a whole other kettle of fish, lol. The sense of otherness that Ryan gets from him is interesting to me. Small glimpses of something unusual, yet he knows Chris...doesn't he? Ahh, and I love that detail! The fact that Chris alters his behaviour when they're isolated like that. It certainly reads as predatory and creepy and a lil teeny bit like a dark romance. I can't place why it feels like the latter, maybe bcs I know they're a ship in the fic? Chris getting Ryan to hunt with him is unexpected, but fits GP's vibe! Would Chris always struggle with that wolfish predatory instinct with Ryan or would it fade/shift in time? I was thinking that if/when they become serious being together and do whatever it is they'll do, would it not change his wolfish perspective of Ryan? From prey to mate? I'd be interested to see what that element would be like. Ohh, Chris and Ryan killing the deer together would be so good! The scene you describe of the process they'd go through with it after is horrificly good. It fits the vibe of The Quarry itself too. Would the buck's horns in his office represent a trophy of sorts? All I can think of is wolfy Chris being pleased with Ryan taking part in providing and decorating the den (his office). I feel like I'm reading into it wrong tho. Love is a hunt, I like that phrase! Some animals do chase their prospective mates before they become mates official, ha.

Yeah, I can see GP and ASB being like two sides of a coin. That's fair enough, we're all pretty busy with life these days. It feels like there isn't enough time sometimes. Thank you for answering this question, tho. I would've answered much sooner, but I was deep into deadlines around Feb and onwards. I'm not upset you've not updated, I certainly miss GP, but I totally understand your focus being elsewhere. Ah! My theory as to what Ryan might do next was that he'd taken a picture of that map. So he knows where Chris planted his cameras, so he knows where he can be seen. He mentioned that he's frustrated/pent up and he had an idea for the pic he took. So, I think he's gonna head out somewhere in the woods where he knows one of the cameras will be, and uh entertain himself yk? He'd know that Chris can see him, and Ryan has seen the tapes he's made, so it'd kinda be revenge? Not rlly? It's kinda getting back at Chris, but also not? Both bcs he's uh taking care of himself and bcs I'm guessing Chris will maybe finally snap? That's what I think Ryan was thinking about doing next.

Another thing I'd been thinking about is more like a cross-over scenario. I was like "what if Ryan was on Blackwood Pines in Until Dawn? What if he survived and was feeling messed up about what he'd seen? " Idk what the timeline would be for The Quarry. It could be before Ryan meets Chris as a counsellor or after. It might work best if he meets him after, like maybe his therapist recommended that Ryan should sign up to something to try heal from Blackwood? Everyone thinks that Ryan was terrorised by bears, but he knows it was a wendigo. Maybe he gets more into Occult stuff after? Chris wouldn't know about the incident bcs Ryan doesn't want ppl to think he's a 'freak'. The quarry gang could make jokes about rabid bears to try rile Ryan up, but I think he'd be even better at not reacting to it. Mainly bcs in order to survive the wendigo, you can't react otherwise you're dead. Ryan already keeps his reactions minimal, but after surviving that mountain I think he'd be even more unresponsive. Like a survival technique, he can't shake off. You could do a lot with the Hackett's wolfish habits and how that version of Ryan might think about them. He'd be a lot more open to believing that werewolves exist, maybe even researched them. It's just a fun lil imagine I came up with. I think that version of Ryan would be fun to play around with.

Anyway, that's the end of my rambling. I hope that you're well and that all is good :)

With Valentines day around the corner, what do you think Chris and Ryan might do (GP and ASB) if they could spend the day together? Not both versions spending the day together, but individually. So how GP might spend it and how ASB might. It would be outside of camp time, so ig Ryan might be visiting Chris or something depending on how things are. There wouldn't be any campers or anyone at camp, so I'm assuming they'd basically have the place to themselves? They'd have some privacy, enough of it to spend the day together as they'd like. So, I got to wondering about what they might do, both their GP versions and ASB versions. It can be as simple or a bit fluffy, smutty or mundane as whatever, I'm just curious how it'd go. I was thinking maybe both vers might do something smutty, more so GP vers than ASB.

Speaking of GP, not to rush or preassure you, but how's it going with it? I think I have an idea of what Ryan might do next, I had something of a light bulb moment, haha.

it’s a fun question! esp bc usually i don’t tend to think about my ships doing stuff for ‘special’ days or having a domesticated routine. with this being said, i’ll try to reply to the best of my ability, but it might read idk maybe weird? if so, i do apologise! usually, most of set-ups for ships that i have are kinda idk, just not super normal or smth somewhat normal happens within the universe, that isn’t. anyhow……

but let’s see, let’s see….

in ASB setting, ryan is more active one. and while he technically won’t care about vd, he might think that it’s a good opportunity to kinda trick chris into doing smth ‘romantic’ for that evening. even if bc he’s kinda pinning so hard, that he would cling even to symbolic stuff, despite it holding no significance for him on its own. i feel like chris would be slightly confused why ryan wants to go into town and hang out, and not idk, do what they do everyday. i picture, that ryan won’t be able to stick around for longer, than a week, and he prob used some lame excuse as to why he’s there at all. chris didn’t pry, but it was clear, that ryan most likely wanted to be away from home, esp if it happens during the time, when he and his lil sister still live with their mother. anyhow, i don’t think that they would do smth crazy that day, ryan would just try to score those points, without chris realising what’s going on. they prob would end their ‘secret date’ in a movie theatre. and like ryan would pick the last seats, and chris be there sweating, bc it’s around time, when he understand why ryan insisted on them ‘going out’ lol. i imagine, ryan prob would also do smth cheeky as getting one of those candies with words like ‘you’re the one’ or smth. after all ASB was all about romance being there in the air, but nearly gentle-like, bc chris is so afraid to spoil one of the few good things, that he has. but like ASB ryan does sorta enjoy that he can make chris squirm like this. there is smth funny about 20 smth guy relentlessly teasing a middle aged man in such a form. like where he’s aware, that chris is attracted to him, but clearly he needs more time or whatever. like, ryan won’t just give up lol. and i think, that one of the most hilarious parts of this whole thing is that kaylee would tease chris about finally going on a date for the first time in ages. so it’s basically ‘everyone know what it is, but you’re playing’ moment. if only ASB chris was as weak willed as uh, little hope’s john, things might have progressed way faster. but i feel like him and ryan just having that nice, isolated memory, that is pretty calm and seemingly ‘small’ is part of what made their relationships in ASB feel so….uh centred? even partly bc chris wasn’t dating anyone for years, and ryan prob never went on real dates with anyone before, bc he thought that it’s boring. but it’s not boring with chris. 

GP is a different kind of beast tho. also god forbid there be a full moon on that day, like dang. in general, i feel like ryan being alone with that type of chris in isolated camp ground would have a bit more tense feeling to it. there is just smth kinda so off about mister H sometimes, y’know? ryan not scared or anything, but he does feel how chris just kinda ‘shifts’, when he realises that they’re miles away from anyone else, and there is like just two of them and forest. nothing else. GP chris is kinda….well, low-key creepy like that, he might decide to ask ryan if he wants to go hunting with him that day. and ryan be like ‘you do hunt’, bc he didn’t peg chris as someone, who shoots things for sport, but chris seems to be tense, insisting that they’d do smth like that. so yeah, whatever, he guess? ryan naturally has no idea, that chris like really wrestling with his predatory instincts at that moment, he just needs to redirect it all somewhere. ryan does notice a lot of strange things about chris during that time, esp how he seems to just sorta know, where to seek a deer or how he can orient in the forest so oddly well and move without much of a sound. and i guess, in reverse to ASB, they find a deer and chris grips ryan’s hand before he can pull it away from the trigger, so they kill it together. ryan won’t sure how to feel, bc he didn’t want it to die. and he even less sure, when chris offers him to show how to separate fur from meat and all that stuff. for chris, it’s basic knowledge, he doesn’t treat it as smth big, but for city boy like ryan, it’s….odd. but he agrees, bc he doesn’t wanna look like a lil bitch, i guess lol. they spend that evening in blood and ryan is very dizzy and nauseous, when it ends. he was very close to chris during that time tho. they had their hands in animal’s organs together, feels kinda intimate, even if the situation itself is pretty iffy. in the end, chris tells ryan, that since he was the one, who killed it (not really lol), they should put that buck’s horns on some good display. so they do put it inside chris’s office, ryan even helps to pick a place for it. he isn’t sure why, but chris seems pleased and all that he can think of, despite that he kinda wants to shower and stinks like blood still (even if he’s in different clothes), is ‘wow our arms were next to one another, side by side, chris’s hand enveloped mine a few times to help me to move the knife’. If one would picture it in GP’s timeline, esp down the line, it would have made sense, i promise. like how strangely dark and gritty it is. love is a hunt, isn’t it? 

either way, this what i meant, that my answer might be strange. i wouldn’t connect them banging to idk some specific date or day or them being more active in that specific area just bc it’s vd. if anything, vd can be a bit symbolic in another sense. it is a day of lovers after all, but ASB and GP address a different side of chris and ryan’s love in itself. it can be somewhat healing and actually good, even if it won’t solve all of chris’s problems, or will automatically make ryan aware about everything like in ASB. but it can also be intense and a tad destructive like in GP. so it’s not about sex at all, i suppose. or more so, i don’t think that they will bang too differently in both setups tbh lol. chris still has a wolf in him either way, and ryan is still like hella horny in both stories as well lol. in ASB ryan tricking chris into doing smth on that specific day is kinda still light and pinning, and more of like extra point. just gives them a bit more context of how they kinda always been together like that, it seems. in GP, i bet that neither chris or ryan are aware, that it’s vd, and it’s smth that ryan learns later on, and be like, ‘oh we did it on that day, huh’. and then be a bit of high school gal about it, haha. 

ah, tbh i didn’t touch it at all. i have different hypefixation atm, and most of my freetime pours into doing stuff for my current ship / fav thing. i haven't brushed any of my supermassive wips. i know, it’s not fun to hear, but it is how it is atm. it’s hard to tell, when i will be interested in them again. like in ways, where i would want to rewatch stuff for the game or dwell back into my narratives for their pair. i’d be curious to hear what you think ryan might do tho. this version of him is sure daring and kinda short-sighted lol.