#(so! these kids are two marginally-corporeal entities playing puppets for the sake of socialization & to carry around/protect their anchor)
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justashadetalkative · 1 year ago
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Details: Phosa & Linast
Mundane video technology hits something not unlike an uncanny valley for Phosa & Linast on two fronts:
1) Their spacial awareness is intense and encompasses the electromagnetic field around them, so trying to process 2D images as representations of 3D objects & space was a learning curve for them. Even after they learned the trick of it, it’s still more like viewing an autostereogram than anything natural or automatic. (They have to trick themselves into perceiving it as looking at something that is very far away and outside of themselves, even as it's (usually) radiating from inside their range of perception.) 2) They don't have a brain that smooths a rapid sequence of images into a perception of smooth motion for them, and while their conscious processing speed isn't precise or rapid enough for them to truly discern the actual movement of light through space (unless working with large enough distances), they can still sense it to some degree. Between those two factors, it's like touching a vibrating surface; they sure as heck couldn't count the individual jerks, but they can feel that something about the motion isn’t smooth.
Some of these factors were mitigated during that human incident, and it went a long way towards helping them figure out how to interpret 2D images the way most sighted humans do.
#details#Phosa#Linast#details: Linast#details: Phosa#(brought to you by this topic managing to come up in two separate threads this past week sdlfkshgsdf)#(...some day I'm gonna try to properly explain Phosa and Linast's spacial perception / presence)#(because like. Their 'bodies' [aside from the core] are just manifestations. Those manifestations do allow touch/hearing etc.)#(and can serve as a focus and limiting agent to TRICK their perspective into more closely mimicking that of corporeal beings)#([eg if they pour most of their focus & attention into just their 'eyes' then that does vaguely mimic having one-point perspective/vision])#(but... their primary and instinctive perception of the world is much more spread out and spacial and field-like)#(the literal electromagnetic field within their entire sphere of influence feels like proprioception to them)#(so! these kids are two marginally-corporeal entities playing puppets for the sake of socialization & to carry around/protect their anchor)#(and I probably don't emphasize that as much as I could ^_^;)#(...then again I do *try* to focus most of RP on actual like. roleplaying. rather than narrating out thoroughly alien perceptions.)#(fun as this sort of thing is for me to try to conceptualize & visualize y'all are not here to read pages of experimental prose xD)#(the kids pick up X information and behave in Y fashion in response and those are the important bits!)#(…Also.also. fucking hell let me tell you: reading about special and general relativity last month has Complicated things)#(I mean I can handwave absolute instantaneous perception across a distance as ‘eh. Magic.’)#(BUT. If I do that. Would that mean that Phosa and Linast technically experience spacetime in a very warped or extradimensional way?)#(defining time VIA light is a tantalizingly neat concept and also the Actual Science [to my knowledge] but I am still Processing it fffff)#queue
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justashadetalkative · 2 months ago
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#(...some day I'm gonna try to properly explain Phosa and Linast's spacial perception / presence)
#(because like. Their 'bodies' [aside from the core] are just manifestations. Those manifestations do allow touch/hearing etc.) #(and can serve as a focus and limiting agent to TRICK their perspective into more closely mimicking that of corporeal beings) #([eg if they pour most of their focus & attention into just their 'eyes' then that does vaguely mimic having one-point perspective/vision])
#(but... their primary and instinctive perception of the world is much more spread out and spacial and field-like) #(the literal electromagnetic field within their entire sphere of influence feels like proprioception to them)
#(so! these kids are two marginally-corporeal entities playing puppets for the sake of socialization & to carry around/protect their anchor) #(and I probably don't emphasize that as much as I could ^_^;)
#(...then again I do *try* to focus most of RP on actual like. roleplaying. rather than narrating out thoroughly alien perceptions.) #(fun as this sort of thing is for me to try to conceptualize & visualize y'all are not here to read pages of experimental prose xD) #(the kids pick up X information and behave in Y fashion in response and those are the important bits!)
#(…Also.also. fucking hell let me tell you: reading about special and general relativity last month has Complicated things) #(I mean I can handwave absolute instantaneous perception across a distance as ‘eh. Magic.’) #(BUT. If I do that. Would that mean that Phosa and Linast technically experience spacetime in a very warped or extradimensional way?) #(defining time VIA light is a tantalizingly neat concept and also the Actual Science [to my current understanding] but I am still Processing it fffff)
Details: Phosa & Linast
Mundane video technology hits something not unlike an uncanny valley for Phosa & Linast on two fronts:
1) Their spacial awareness is intense and encompasses the electromagnetic field around them, so trying to process 2D images as representations of 3D objects & space was a learning curve for them. Even after they learned the trick of it, it’s still more like viewing an autostereogram than anything natural or automatic. (They have to trick themselves into perceiving it as looking at something that is very far away and outside of themselves, even as it's (usually) radiating from inside their range of perception.) 2) They don't have a brain that smooths a rapid sequence of images into a perception of smooth motion for them, and while their conscious processing speed isn't precise or rapid enough for them to truly discern the actual movement of light through space (unless working with large enough distances), they can still sense it to some degree. Between those two factors, it's like touching a vibrating surface; they sure as heck couldn't count the individual jerks, but they can feel that something about the motion isn’t smooth.
Some of these factors were mitigated during that human incident, and it went a long way towards helping them figure out how to interpret 2D images the way most sighted humans do.
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