#(i mean. they also completely ignore the way that ketheric clearly knows durge personally in act 2 lmao)
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crossdressingdeath · 8 months ago
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#oh thats a good point about their reactions#yes based on that i definitely can see Astarion Gale Halsin and Minthara as team Durge#it is very complicated with Wyll because unfortunately they just don't give him enough lines#we could say his lack of reaction was due to him being distracted by his father#but really larian just didn't give him enough lines#he does focus on Durges ability to still be good in the bhaalspawn reveal conversation#but i think he could see the preamnesia durge as someone without the true ability to choose#I'm currently romancing Wyll as origin Astarion and i want to see his reaction to the Sebastian reveal#i think that will help me decide how Wyll would react in the moment#but yes i would love for there to be tension around camp for awhile following the reveal#nobody hates durge but they're feeling conflicted after the reveal#meanwhile Astarion and Minthara would be defending them up and down#halsin and gale would be trying to keep the peace but still show durge theyre on their side#karlach would probably want space for a little bit#Shadowheart would probably pray for them#i could see laezel keeping to herself more too and maybe just being silent around durge as she tries to decide how she feels about it#Mama Jaheira would be giving full disappointed parent vibes#maybe they even have a camp meeting to talk it over and finally decide they all still trust durge (tags via @litterateur97)
Another thing that I'd kill for is the option for Durge to... y'know, respond to all their friends talking like they hate them? As it is Durge just has to stand there and let the party yell at them. Everyone else gets the option to actually talk about the things they did, whether to defend them or to agree that it was fucked up! Durge just... doesn't. Which given they're guaranteed to be the player character if present seems a bad call; Larian, did it really not occur to you that the players might not enjoy having to stand there mutely while the party tells them off for things their character doesn't remember? (It was especially wild when fellow amnesiac Shadowheart yelled at Durge for not telling the party about it beforehand, but I believe Larian recognized that that was just a teensy bit unfair and changed her line.) Durge gets no opportunity to defend themselves and no one defends them and that makes the party's treatment of them come across as... pretty shitty, even though their anger is understandable. There's no opportunity for understanding and empathy like Durge can show to everyone else. And to be clear I think like 90% of that is Larian's unwillingness to give Durge's story any nuance (either you reject Bhaal completely and become basically Tav and there's no acknowledgement that maybe losing the only family you had and getting a piece of your soul ripped out and also dying was maybe somewhat upsetting and traumatic, you're fine now, no one's going to ask if you're okay, or you agree to reclaim your place as Bhaal's Chosen and clearly you're pure evil and doing this because you like hurting people, no one cares that Bhaal owns your soul and made it clear he'd kill you if you said no, you're a monster and all your friends hate you and lowkey want you dead and will be abandoning you as soon as the brain is dealt with)? But it also is like, guys. I have been nothing but understanding about your shit and you learn one bad thing about me and respond like this? And never give me a chance to explain myself? Come on. Should I be mad at the characters for showing zero understanding or compassion towards their friend who's been nothing but understanding and compassionate towards them, or mad at Larian for deciding this is a black and white morality situation? This is why my extremely long post-coronation WIP is just Kyvir (my Durge) being miserable and making bad decisions because he's convinced everyone he's come to know and love hates him forever now...
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Gale: The tadpoles, the Absolute... it was because of you? I think you've said and done more than enough. Leave me be.
Ouch. The fact that there's no real followup from this drives me nuts, Gale is like "You've done more than enough, get away from me" and then you talk to him again and it's back to "Hi friend, so glad to have you around!" like nothing happened? Come on. There's so much tasty angst in the whole thing, give me the party clearly being on edge around Durge until/unless they reject Bhaal entirely!
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