#(and it victimized kara again - tho she was a victim in this case - but i wanted to see how messed up all her conflicting views would be)
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THIS!! Every damn word!
There's a fantastic fic that explores some of this as Kara processes her grief and learns how to live on Earth and camouflage herself as human. I highly recommend it.
moments in the woulds by @lovepotionnumber5
One of the (so many I can’t even begin to name them all) worst failings of CW Supergirl is that they just made her the female version of Clark Kent. Then they put Superman as this absentee patriarchal figure that’s a towering paradigm of goodness and righteousness casting a shadow over Kara where she felt like she had to live up to his example.
It’s absolute bullshit. They bullied her into a corner, into a position of inherent weakness (because she’s a woman) when SHE is supposed to be the freaking star, and they never let her out. I don’t care about her “beating Superman in a fight”. That’s not where true power comes from. It’s not about true strength of character. It’s lazy and stupid and forced. Kara and Clark are so different. I wish they’d shown that. That’s where the really interesting character study lies.
There should have been more friction between Kara and Clark. More awkwardness. More just not knowing what to DO or how to BE around each other. Not just because of his abandonment/complete absenteeism. (Though that was a hard plot line to swallow. Not to mention having JIMMY OLSEN be the one man to show Kara the ways of the world as her “watcher” and show her the Fortress of Solitude? Are you kidding me? It was condescending and infantalizing. She was a GROWN ADULT and he was human). If Clark, for whatever asinine reason, really had to refuse to show Kara a little about his life as Superman and where the last remains of her HOME WORLD existed, she would have found it on her own when she was 15 or something. She’s got superpowers and she’s a literal genius with an IQ beyond pretty much anyone on Earth (another thing they conveniently chose to ignore in the show). As if she wouldn’t have discovered those things even without Clark.
But what I find so egregiously lacking in Kara as a character, is that by making her the female Clark Kent, they erased all sense of her identity as a Kryptonian. We could have had such a brilliant and interesting exploration of how Kara handles things differently as a Kryptonian than a human. How differently she views the world. How her lens is different than the people around her. ESPECIALLY CLARK.
Instead of Kara suffering in Superman’s shadow as a thinly veiled, clumsy, and unimaginative metaphor for women in a patriarchal society, I would have liked to see Kara be totally unfazed by it. Like a silly little bullet pinging off her. In her eyes, it would just be a byproduct of a low class civilization that hasn’t caught up to advanced society yet and it’s one of the many things she has to put up with on Earth. Her whole being would just be a casual defiance to it, she wouldn’t have the patience or even bat an eye, but the Kara we got in the show was definitely framed to stay within the box of Earth’s patriarchal norms.
Kara is an ALIEN and she came to Earth as a teenager. Her world view was already well-formed at that point and she would have had to adapt, but I wanted to see more of Kara the headstrong, proud, willful, even arrogant Kryptonian rather than Kara the cowed little alien people-pleaser, camouflaging to near invisibility to fit in. Clark was raised in hiding, he never knew a different life, but Kara did! She had already lived years not having to hide and she had a greater sense of self than Clark ever would.
I would have been far more interested to see Kara be frustrated with Clark for totally different reasons. Example: Everyone loves Clark? Yes, it bothers her. Everyone loves Superman? Yes, it gets under her skin. So maybe Alex mentions something about jealousy or James says something about envy and Kara EXPLODES. She’s not jealous. She’s not envious. No, she’s ASHAMED OF HIM.
“None of you understand. Not a single person on Earth gets it. You all view him as an alien, but you don’t have a clue…not a clue, just how much more of a human he is than he will ever be Kryptonian. Kal-El may be from Krypton, he may be my cousin by blood, but he is not one of us. He has no idea what it would even mean to be one of us. Yet, everywhere I look, he is the one this planet sees as the representative of my home, the Last Son of Krypton, but he is not Krypton’s son and he never will be. I despise him for it as much as I pity him for it. And it’s all my fault because I was supposed to be the one to save him from that. He is my failure and I can never change that.”
Just one example of something I would have liked to see get explored with Kara Zor-El. But nah.
#adding all of op's tags because they're such an important part of the post ->#supergirl#kara zor el#kara danvers#clark kent#cw supergirl#(the tiny bit that was explored in the show was on kara's guilt over not fulfilling her parent's wishes or being there for clark)#(there could have been so many more layers to it but it just stayed at the most superficial level)#(and it victimized kara again - tho she was a victim in this case - but i wanted to see how messed up all her conflicting views would be)#(and the impact it would have on her)#and imagine how different the tone would be for kara to be criticizing clark?#not bc he's a bad person but she doesnt see him as the hero everyone else does#being kryptonian doesnt mean having powers (they didnt have powers on krypton)#she sees clark as a human flying around and masquerading as a kryptonian and it hurts all the more that shes truly the only one left#IMAGINE THE SHEER DIFFERENCE IN TONE THE SHOW WOULD HAVE HAD WITH JUST THAT ONE LITTLE SHIFT ALONE?
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I'm not changing the subject and I AM writing a Karamel fic right now (A One-Shot), it's just been a really busy time lately, so I haven't gotten around to writing more than a few sentences🙈😖
I don't believe that 0🧐🤨 And hey, I AM writing!😖🙈
Yup, the song definitely has one ugly crying over Karamel, doesn't it?🙈😭
Yess, staying healthy of the web💃🏻💃🏻
That would be the dream (we will probably never get)😭😍🙈 I'm even totally fine with a story focusing on relationships if it's friendship or family-ship instead of romantic ones🙈🙈 (BROTPs are the BEST😍🙈)
Yess, he's just brilliant and Ohhhhhhh, Westworld😭😭 "Dad, I'm all the way down now. I can see the bottom. Don't you wanna see what I see?" 😭😭😭😭😭
While I agree that a story shouldn't go on longer than it calls for, yours does seem to wanna be longer😉 Best just follow the muses' judgement😉😉😂😂
Yo, don't stress it😂 And haha, well, if you need a nap, you need a nap💃🏻🤷🏻♀️ Siesta time for you 😉💃🏻
Ohhh, Yup, definitely sounds like the kind of video fans would make with Poets of the Fall's Songs😅🙈
Haha, true🤷🏻♀️😂
...Meeeeehh... But becoming "Skynet" sounds like much more fun😖
A CaptainSwan and Karamel crossover😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍 That'd be SO awesome😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
Evil!Regina was a cool villain, I admit😁 I liked her semi-reformed "I'll RELuCTANTLY work with you but only cause I don't wanna die or let Henry die" version a lot, too😂 Anti-heroes are fun (Probably the reason I loved Hook from the get-go, too, tho he is kinda a special case)😁
Well, CaptainSwan's daughter was named "Hope" (which funnily enough was fanon long before the show did it). And hey, Kara's all about hope (Paragon of Hope and so), so another thing fitting to both CS and Karamel😂
Ohhhhhh, 1. OMG, THAT SONG IS SO LIT!😍😍😍😍💃🏻💃🏻 2. That would be so epic😍😍 We need a Pirate AU inspired by that song already!😱😱 3. Lol, strangely enough the song also made me think of Davy Jones/Calypso, Will/Elizabeth and Killian/Emma 🙈
Btw, I don't know ANYTHING about Bridgerton but YouTube recommended me a scene of Anthony and Kate that made me think SO much of EarlyS2!Karamel 😂😂 It's them arguing and frustrated and Anthony asking if he has done sth to her(Kate) or why the heck she dislikes him so much to which she replies he vexes her😂 And there's another where he calls her the bane of his existence and object of all his desire😂😂 Like, their arguing and reluctant feelings made me think of Karamel's arguments soooo much😂😂 (Not sure if the link works but here: https://youtube.com/shorts/LyJj3g8NTEw?feature=share)
Anyway, stay safe and happy rest-weekend!😁
XXX
Yay! Progress is still progress!
That's your problem ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ i will believe when I read it :)))
Yep, thanks =='
That's why I like war stories. Only dudes, usually no romances, just brotops and a lot of deaths....
I think Ben has a kink for playing tragic characters...
My muse is a bitch, don't bring her into it ==' No but seriously, as i mentioned once, my English doesn't allow me write how I wish, so it's betetr to make things simple. And shorter.
LW NEEDS A NAP TOO TELL HER THAT BECASUE SHE ONCE AGAIN IS SCREWEING IT!!!!
Did you hear Poet's newest song?
....mhm... skynet... and she claims she and Lw don't murder kangaroos. MHM
Hmm, but what? Canon crossover? Or throwing them into high school or college and watch the mess? Any ideas? :P
As i said, I enjoyed her untill I had enough? She reminds me a little of, cringes, Lobotomizer, especially the same "i did horrible things but weirdly I'm cultivating the victim complex, uwu". But for sure she was much, much much more complexed that Lobotomizer and was not shy of admittting how horrible she was.
Oh, that's sweet! Hope and Maya, being the best pals then? :D
oh... bridgertons... let's say I read two first books (because people recommended it soooo boldly) and i was... absolutely... not.... impressed. It was so... incredibly... dumb? And like, the author tried to make it oh so modern but still in regency era, but ended with all male characters being machos with fragile egos assholes and all were unhealthy possesive? But I haven't watched the show but yeah, the lines are cool :D
Thanks! Hope your weekedn was nice too :D
Oh, the songs!
"Starlight" by Starset - well, the title already fits them xD reminds me a little of the last Nightwish album,w hat is a good thing and I added it on my spotify ^^ will check them more!
Aww, MELISSA <33333
The Greatest Showman"? I didn;t see that coming xD But I like the songs form that.
"Style" by Taylor Swift - thanks to you YT is giong to recommend me her songs,huh ==' not my style, I'm afraid, and no karamel images generating by my brain while listening. But probably that would change after 5th listening what IM NOT GOING TO DO!
"Let light overcome the darkness" by Our Last Night - I was wodnering for a sec who was singing, a man or a woman xD Overcome the darkness should be official karamel theme xD
"For you" by Liam Payne and Rita Ora - wanna laugh? This is the first time I listened to a song made by any of them xD Fits Mon-El more than Kara, I think? With that "I wsn't looking for loveb untill i met you". Still, nice
"I'd come for you" - they have weird vids, i swear xD but awwww anyway.
Trying not to love you - lol, is that you Kara? xD
"Enchanted"- you are killing me :') anyway, soulmates, right???
"Carry You" - .... Kara at the beginning of s3, I guess? =='
And the rest I think I already covered!
HOMEWORK FOR YOU DARLING!
-Broken by Seether and Amy Lee :))) SUFFER
-Snuff by Slipknot (So if you love me let me go, And run away before I know, My heart is just too dark to care, I can't destroy what isn? t there)
-My Theraphy by Kamelot
-How did you love by Shinedown
-Wicked Game by Stone Sour ACCOUSTIC AND LIVE
-Orion Light by Bare Infinity (Look to the sky for the winters comet Lighting the path bright for you to see Hold the memory of her smile For love will set you free)
-Ain't no Sunshine by Bill Withers :))))
-Take my breath away by Berlin so you won't accuse me of too much angst :P
Stay safe *hugs*
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One of the (so many I can’t even begin to name them all) worst failings of CW Supergirl is that they just made her the female version of Clark Kent. Then they put Superman as this absentee patriarchal figure that’s a towering paradigm of goodness and righteousness casting a shadow over Kara where she felt like she had to live up to his example.
It’s absolute bullshit. They bullied her into a corner, into a position of inherent weakness (because she’s a woman) when SHE is supposed to be the freaking star, and they never let her out. I don’t care about her “beating Superman in a fight”. That’s not where true power comes from. It’s not about true strength of character. It’s lazy and stupid and forced. Kara and Clark are so different. I wish they’d shown that. That’s where the really interesting character study lies.
There should have been more friction between Kara and Clark. More awkwardness. More just not knowing what to DO or how to BE around each other. Not just because of his abandonment/complete absenteeism. (Though that was a hard plot line to swallow. Not to mention having JIMMY OLSEN be the one man to show Kara the ways of the world as her “watcher” and show her the Fortress of Solitude? Are you kidding me? It was condescending and infantalizing. She was a GROWN ADULT and he was human). If Clark, for whatever asinine reason, really had to refuse to show Kara a little about his life as Superman and where the last remains of her HOME WORLD existed, she would have found it on her own when she was 15 or something. She’s got superpowers and she’s a literal genius with an IQ beyond pretty much anyone on Earth (another thing they conveniently chose to ignore in the show). As if she wouldn’t have discovered those things even without Clark.
But what I find so egregiously lacking in Kara as a character, is that by making her the female Clark Kent, they erased all sense of her identity as a Kryptonian. We could have had such a brilliant and interesting exploration of how Kara handles things differently as a Kryptonian than a human. How differently she views the world. How her lens is different than the people around her. ESPECIALLY CLARK.
Instead of Kara suffering in Superman’s shadow as a thinly veiled, clumsy, and unimaginative metaphor for women in a patriarchal society, I would have liked to see Kara be totally unfazed by it. Like a silly little bullet pinging off her. In her eyes, it would just be a byproduct of a low class civilization that hasn’t caught up to advanced society yet and it’s one of the many things she has to put up with on Earth. Her whole being would just be a casual defiance to it, she wouldn’t have the patience or even bat an eye, but the Kara we got in the show was definitely framed to stay within the box of Earth’s patriarchal norms.
Kara is an ALIEN and she came to Earth as a teenager. Her world view was already well-formed at that point and she would have had to adapt, but I wanted to see more of Kara the headstrong, proud, willful, even arrogant Kryptonian rather than Kara the cowed little alien people-pleaser, camouflaging to near invisibility to fit in. Clark was raised in hiding, he never knew a different life, but Kara did! She had already lived years not having to hide and she had a greater sense of self than Clark ever would.
I would have been far more interested to see Kara be frustrated with Clark for totally different reasons. Example: Everyone loves Clark? Yes, it bothers her. Everyone loves Superman? Yes, it gets under her skin. So maybe Alex mentions something about jealousy or James says something about envy and Kara EXPLODES. She’s not jealous. She’s not envious. No, she’s ASHAMED OF HIM.
“None of you understand. Not a single person on Earth gets it. You all view him as an alien, but you don’t have a clue...not a clue, just how much more of a human he is than he will ever be Kryptonian. Kal-El may be from Krypton, he may be my cousin by blood, but he is not one of us. He has no idea what it would even mean to be one of us. Yet, everywhere I look, he is the one this planet sees as the representative of my home, the Last Son of Krypton, but he is not Krypton’s son and he never will be. I despise him for it as much as I pity him for it. And it’s all my fault because I was supposed to be the one to save him from that. He is my failure and I can never change that.”
Just one example of something I would have liked to see get explored with Kara Zor-El. But nah.
#supergirl#kara zor el#kara danvers#clark kent#cw supergirl#(the tiny bit that was explored in the show was on kara's guilt over not fulfilling her parent's wishes or being there for clark)#(there could have been so many more layers to it but it just stayed at the most superficial level)#(and it victimized kara again - tho she was a victim in this case - but i wanted to see how messed up all her conflicting views would be)#(and the impact it would have on her)#and imagine how different the tone would be for kara to be criticizing clark?#not bc he's a bad person but she doesnt see him as the hero everyone else does#being kryptonian doesnt mean having powers (they didnt have powers on krypton)#she sees clark as a human flying around and masquerading as a kryptonian and it hurts all the more that shes truly the only one left#IMAGINE THE SHEER DIFFERENCE IN TONE THE SHOW WOULD HAVE HAD WITH JUST THAT ONE LITTLE SHIFT ALONE?
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