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So apparently there’s been a particular reaction among a part of jp fandom regarding 284, that Bakugo evaluating his feelings for Deku is seen as him accepting “stalker Deku”. Have you seen this take yet? If so, what do you make of it?
Interestingly enough, I just so happened to be browsing reddit when I got this, and recognized some very familiar rewordings from my asks by the user PocketPika over there on some of their threads, where this very topic gets mentioned too (so hey, if this is just a coincidence, or if you’re truly here reading/interacting with my blog, then hi! :D) I’ve also happened to see it vagued about on some of Roo’s tweets the other day, since she’s interested in the jp fandom’s reception of the latest chapter too.
Since I don’t have all the context (and cause I can’t follow/read what the jp fandom says either) apparently it’s kinda like a viral meme reaction? (Not that serious?) Or perhaps it’s from some of the hardcore Bakugou stans feeling the need to see some sort of equivalent acknowledgement/check from Deku’s side of the behavior. Because it is true that when they were kids, Deku always kept following and observing him as his closest inspiration, no matter how many times Kacchan pushed him back to stop that. (Kacchan most often kept his distance and did not actively seek Deku out as many might assume; the worst behavior was actually in response to Deku either getting in his way, or encroaching far too close for his comfort...while both misreading and fearing Deku’s intent too.) Going so far as to call that behavior of Deku’s ‘stalkerish’ seems a bit extreme (since they were kids? and many current instances of that behavior seem to be read as gags) but it’s also true that Deku was not 100% innocent either. (He’s not some ‘uwu helpless baby’; he’d stand up for himself and not back down no matter what, which is the kinda spirit that clashed and would get Kacchan to react so strongly back.)
Anyway, my main takeaway is that...if this is a legitimate concern (and not just a meme/joke) from the jp fandom, and something they really wanna see addressed someday in the manga too (about how Kacchan truly felt about that side of Deku too, not just the unease from his self-sacrificial side) then...perhaps it could be another thing for Kacchan to bring up whenever he works up the courage (and gets the chance) to come clean and talk to Deku about all his concerns/worries for him. As it feels like Hori’s really building things up and pushing for another...point of ‘contact’ (DvsK3?) between them soon. Whether that’s Kacchan admitting his worries for him and finally getting thru to Deku about making him realize how dangerous his reckless self-sacrificial tendency is, combined with an apology from his side of the past poor behavior...then in that way, I could see where some of the jp fandom might be coming from, to not make such a future ‘apology scene’ seem so heavily one-sided without Deku also owning up to those other behaviors (in this case, what they refer to as ‘stalking’) that rubbed Kacchan the wrong way too. :O For more of that equal acknowledgement on both sides, to come closer together on the same page. (However, I can also see Deku overly apologizing for upsetting Kacchan in any way too, and that would...unfortunately derail from Kacchan’s attempt to honestly come clean/approach him during his big moment...so ack, they’re disasters.)
However, I also feel that Hori won’t cover everything so soon (as in a ‘get everything over with now’ kinda deal), cause this is a slow burn after all, and these things take baby steps and time. Cause right now, my biggest concern is how on earth they’ll make it out of this current Shiggy battle intact! D8 There’s gonna be so much damage (both physical and emotional) for them to deal with and recover from first, and there’s really no telling how the battle will end or what Hori’s planning for the climax (maybe Kacchan does something himself for a direct intervention). Whatever Hori’s planning, for right now and down the line for them, he’s also shown he knows what he’s doing (handles things carefully when the topic needs that level of attention). So in general I’d say hang tight without concluding things before they actually happen, but also how it seems he may be privy to some of the fandom’s takes as well (esp the jp side). To at least be aware of and perhaps take their feedback into consideration when he eventually covers these things too. I’m willing to see what Hori’s got first, at least!
#bnha#deku#kacchan#bkdk#manga spoilers#i'm also interested in what the jp fandom thinks#since there's nothing lost in translation for them#(and how hori would be closer to their fandom if anything is a big concern)#but also lul i did recognize many words from that one reddit user so...oho interesting#Anonymous#replies
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I find myself unable to think of Bakugou in any way more positive than "dislike", because he reminds me too much of the people who made my life miserable when I was growing up. (Not that it makes him bad; it's just my emotions.) Do you've any advice on how to bend my mind around that? I don't need to LOVE him, just mentally separate "him" and "the people who make grade school suck for me" so I won't irrationally hate him, because I don't LIKE hating characters.
Hi there! I’m glad to see you come forward, especially tosomeone who’s a big fan of him, after happening to see how far you’veventured through my tags already (whoa dedication!) to seek possible answers or further clarity about this,especially if it’s something that’s still bothering you, oraffecting/preventing you from fully enjoying the series. Because of that, I cantell how serious and genuine you feel about this, so I will take this seriouslyas well.
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Another thing is that it’s okay to feel this way, your personal experiences are still valid,and there’s no obligation to force your feelings otherwise, or subject yourselfto content that may be uncomfortable for you. Please continue to take all theprecautions needed (blocking/blacklisting) for an enjoyable and productivefandom experience. But understanding that even if the characters may havecoincidental similarities to our pasts, they are not direct projections of us, the people in our lives, or our realities.Their world is not ours. So this awareness is another good step to have, tobegin seeing the story (and characters) more openly, objectively and closer tohow Hori originally intended.
Since you’re willing to learn more, and as you may have already seenfrom my content here, Bakugou (Kacchan)became my definitive fav character of the series, but not for thoselingering resentments mentioned. The compelling character I see is so much morebeyond that first ch’s established baseline, which was narratively placed and designedto contrast against who he becomes later on. As a means to gauge and appreciatehis growth and the journey of how far he’s changed into becoming a proper,well-rounded, better person and inspirationalhero. The kind of emotional narrativefocus that always gains my interest and priority to see develop. Already, theperson he is now at 215+ chs is not the same as who he was at ch1 (neither ishe the flanderized, fanon stereotype many have been misled or indoctrinated tofirmly believe he is), and he will keepon developing as the story marches on. I am fully on board to witness thathappen.
The challenge now, is not letting his initial baseline impression(or the feelings from your own separate –but equally valid– experiences, oreven the vitriol from others) stain or cloud that entire slow-burn progressionof the story going forward. Otherwise the important milestones and insightsinto his character that Hori leaves along the way (which can sometimes bedifficult to see from Deku’s limited pov) end up getting obscured, ignored, oroutright rejected from an internalized feeling of ‘hatred’ that tends to blockout anything newly introduced that would challenge that preconceived perceptionof him. However, to mentally reject such change and prevent the valuedimprovement of a growing person (a learning child in his formative years, forinstance), to otherwise keep the status quo static and unmoving, to permanentlystay rooted exactly the same way as thestart…would in fact be a much more toxic/harmful mindset to have, and actuallydefeats the purpose of telling a proper story as well.
Setbacks to that challenge unfortunately include thewidespread availability of biased mistranslations (even from official sources),poor/oversimplified characterizations from non-canon content(movies/novels/merch, etc) that’s not written directly by Hori, because all thesethings just reinforce and exacerbate the problem of inflating fanon stereotypesand those preconceived notions that people have already solidified in theirminds as true (when they often aren’t). It gets even worse, and ironicallyhypocritical, when those same people start feeling justified they can go out oftheir way to attack others (includingthe author) for how to ‘properly’ enjoy and interpret the series (for beingdifferent or ‘incorrect’ from the perceptions they believe to be right). Butwhat’s happened is they’ve begun to blindly act on feelings multiple levels sofar removed from what actually is (whatexists as presented within canon, vs what they believe in fanon, vs what exists separately that may beplaguing these people’s real lives), that by then, that kind of maladjustedsocial behavior is inexcusable. Stepping back and realizing when things start crossinglines irrationally out of hand, to prevent that kind of behavior from happeningin the first place, (and again, by taking measures to block/blacklist stuff thataggravates or makes you feel uncomfortable), is the much wiser approach toparticipating and enjoying fandom. So that no matter what happens or what otherssay, they can’t impact or ruin what you love about the series.
Which in my case, includes Kacchan’s character. Basedon what Hori has consistently presented in canon, I can conclude and freely admithe’s the only character I can fully trust. Amazing, right? Because he hasabsolutely nothing to hide. Everything he does (not through his harshwords/temperament, but through his genuine actions),is extremely forthright and honest. He does not half-ass things or hide anyother ulterior motives or malicious intent beyond his dedication to become the best hero. And he takes that goal very seriously. Striving for and expectingexcellence from himself (and all themental pressure that self-imposed perfectionism brings) and others. Currently in the manga that includes Deku now too, whomhe willingly goads (showing support in his own way) and checks in on for hisprogress too.
Remember his fights in the sports tournament, how he takesall challengers with equal commitment/opportunity (gender does not matter),provided they give him their best inturn as well, because to do otherwise –to go easy on them or hold back– wouldbe disrespectful and underestimating an opponent. There’s a very just and admirablehonor in that. Remember how he can’tstand anyone looking down on him, which includes how he misinterpreted Deku’sfeelings of admiration for disdain(he could not accurately read Deku’s intentions, and became so perplexed by himthat he assumed the worst: that Deku looked down on him instead). Considering the level of seriousness and effort he alwaysputs forth, to be confronted with the opposite would be personally insulting.
Remember when the villains invited him to join their ranks(because they misread and shallowly judged his character), he stuck to his idealsand outright refused their offer.(Boldly exploding villains in the face~) Risking death over playing it safe andlying to pretend to follow along totheir whims. (How brave and badass is that?!) Kacchan does not lie, cheat theeasy way out, or do things he’s not feeling or doesn’t agree with. Again, honesty. Becoming a villain, a traitor,or betraying those who’ve earned his trust? Absolutely no chance. Afterlearning AM’s secret and finally understanding/rectifying everything that didn’tadd up about Deku, would he go behind their backs by breaking promises? No way.Again, most trustworthy character.
Rereading the story a second time over, but from his perspective, practically doubled myappreciation and enjoyment of the series. Thinking about how the foundations oftheir society impacted his world views at such a young age, to the very betrayal he must have felt thinking achildhood friend lied to him aboutsomething as important/vital as a quirk. (And if we already know how he feelsabout cheating liars…hmm, faithful loyaltynow feels like a valued trait.) Other factors include his relatable giftedchild syndrome, all the complexes born from that, and for how extremely intelligent,competent, and much more calmly calculating he is than his short temper may lead one to believe. How he was oncea ‘big fish in a small pond’, now thrust into the ocean to compete among evenother bigger fish, with the pressure to both succeed and prove himself…all whilehis previous world views are checked and challenged every step of the way.
For years he’d been valued and praised for only the promisingpotential and primary trait of his strong quirk. (The reinforcement for his badbehavior on the other hand? Not valued with the same proper attention.) Alreadythat’s an unfortunate consequence of their quirk-filled, hero-commodified society. Think of justhow shallow/fake groupies would be, or how annoying and hollow it would feel tohave people cling to him just for that (for talent and skills over his meritsas a person), and just how difficult forming genuine, natural bonds would be… (Becomingself-reliant now becomes another added pressure he has to juggle on his own.) Beforequirks had ever entered the picture and complicated things further, Deku was probablyconsidered the closest friend he had. Until…misunderstandings happened, andthen the only thing he wanted was for Deku to stay away from him. (A misconception is that Kacchan actively soughtDeku out, when it’s actually the opposite: Kacchan only reacted if Dekuencroached on him too closely.) Because he feared how Deku made him feel,forcing him to face his own shortcomings, and address perceptions of reality hedid not want to face. Because for someone he perceived as the weakest, to boldly goagainst that and do what Deku did (help him out of concern/kindness, but thatintent only read as pitying to him),made him feel even below that. And what’slower than the low of the weakest/most useless? Pretty ouch, so stop followingand stay back. Yet Deku just kept on coming back no matter what, for reasons hecouldn’t yet understand. (Deku felt genuine care and admiration for him, whichKacchan hadn’t realized, so gah, dramatic irony.) His changing feelings, correctinghis attitude, and clarifying his relationship to Deku, who continually challengesand defies his very worldview and perception of weakness, brings a whole otherfascinating draw to the series, which would take a whole other essay to fully analyze(but which many other fans have thoroughly done so already).
Further considerations include his struggles facing other relatablefeelings. How he confronts the pain and weight of experiencing loss, survivor’sguilt, and assessing powerlessness and the inability to save situations beyondhis control. Internalizing self-doubt, hatred, failure, and inferiority…because‘if only he were stronger.’ What Isee is a child overburdened by expectations and responsibilities beyond hisyears…who has to learn to process and overcome many of those same feelings I’vealready gone through and had to come to terms with growing up. (The very reasonhe’s often and endearingly referred to as a ‘son.’) The majority of adults inhis life assumed he was already ‘strong enough’ and ‘fine’ on his own, theyneglected to give him proper mental guidance going forward (AM even admitsthis). And we unfortunately see the tragic consequences of that. But fortunately,things are getting better, and Hori’s story for him still isn’t over yet.
Overall, what I see is the chance for an excellent,multi-layered, and well-written character to become even better. And that’s why his narrative is so particularly engaging. Doeshe remind me of the kids that once made certain social aspects of grade schoolinsufferable? No, because that’s not who he is; he’s so far removed and beyond them, that they’ve become extras whono longer matter anymore. Instead of lingering on such negatives, it’s insteadthe positive aspects about him that shine through even stronger. The fact heisn’t perfect, but deeply flawed and learning to address his shortcomings in nowmore productive ways. This progression and growth makes him interesting, and combinedwith the many other traits I’ve mentioned above, favored and loved bymany. Although ultimately I can’t change your opinion about him (that’s stillup to you to decide, and it’s ok to still dislike characters), hopefully I’veintroduced new ways of perceiving and appreciating his character for you. Tohelp see some of the positives that Deku always valued in him as a drivingsource of inspiration too: to strive hard despite life’s setbacks, and win. ‘He may be a jerk, but he’s amazing.’
#pomrania#replies#bnha#kacchan#meta#manga spoilers#long post#speaking from the perspective of him as my fav#hopefully this sheds some new light#(and i think i covered everything i wanted to say)#this is also why i mentioned before that the message of mp100’s mogami arc is important#and what i mean when i say minori’s ‘imcomparable levels of cruelty’#because kacchan is definitely not that#but the ability to change; grow; and forgive even the worst of who people used to be#is multitudes more valuable; stronger; and daresay heroic#than regressing into a hateful vestige of a non-functioning human like mogami#that kind of message still rings true here#the fact deku still cares despite seeing the worst from him is testament to how genuine his feelings are for him too#so instead of focusing on the worst...here i explain those cherished positives too
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