#(and he also kissed viktor on-stage while as said persona!!! what was he thinking??!!!) no viktor cant ever know!!!

[yoibrainrot]

A Yuri on ice Hannah Montana au where Yuuri is an up and coming star stuck between his new life and his peter parker self.

He has a major crush on global superstar Viktor Nikiforov (ever since his Disney days), and Yuuri thinks he'll never be near Viktor's sphere of existence - until suddenly he is, until suddenly Viktor is aware of him and talking to him and likes his music.

Maybe Viktor asks to go on tour with him and work with him. But Viktor's s also having a crisis. Because he likes the cute shy bespectacled boy he met backstage while hiding from his fans, and he also likes the confident dazzling boy who is a monster onstage. If only they were the same person!

[actualyuuri]

hi, sorry if this is a dumb question but, it's revealed that viktor was in love yuuri the whole time in that one episode where it reveals yuuri doesnt remember that one night, and before that they got rings. did they actually get engaged is that what yuuri really meant when he bought those rings ??? and when did they actually start dating?? im a lil confused. especially abt when their relationship turned romantic

Hi anon!!! Not a dumb question at all! All of the things you asked about, I’m afraid, are pretty subjective, but here’s the timeline of Victor and Yuuri’s relationship as I see it. Also, I’d like to note that I’m not going to fill in the gaps (i.e. assume their first kiss was before The Kiss™), I’m just going with what’s canon.

The Victuuri Timeline

PRE - EPISODE 1

Victor is on top of the skating world and has lost inspiration. Yuuri has lost the GPF because of his anxiety and is ashamed of himself.

The Sochi Banquet Scene (Episode 10) - Yuuri dances with Victor and asks him to be his coach. Victor is enamored at first sight because Yuuri is bright and blazing and beautiful. He hears Yuuri’s request and the idea starts as a spark in his mind.

EPISODE 1

Yuuri skates to Victor’s routine, Stammi Vicino (Stay Close to Me) and the triplets record it.

Victor sees the video and decides to be Yuuri’s coach. He does this because he remembers how he’d felt during the banquet and because “he skates like his body is creating music.”

Victor shows up at the onsen, Yuuri essentially rejects him because he’s Shook™.

At this point in the show, we’re working with two types of love that are not the final product. Victor is infatuated with Yuuri, but he knows next to nothing about him. Yuuri, on the other hand, knows everything about Victor’s public persona, but knows nothing about his private persona. They’re in love with the idea of each other.

EPISODES 2-3

Yuri Plisetsky shows up, blah blah blah. They decide to have a Yuri vs. Yuuri competition, and Yuuri decides that if he wins, he wants Victor to remain in Japan as his coach.

This point is an underrated development in their relationship – it’s less of a desperate fanboy moment and more real.

Yuuri is starting to see glimpses of Victor’s personality and the hero-worship dynamic is beginning to be broken down.

Yuuri is assigned the theme of “Eros” (sexual love) and Yuri is assigned “Agape.” They both wanted the opposite.

The fact that Yuuri skates to Eros, ultimately comprehends the routine (although he does so by thinking of pork cutlet bowls, which is character-building but that’s another story), and wins the competition proves one thing: Victor Nikiforov, despite his lack of experience as a coach, manages to bring out the best in him.

They’re no longer strictly in love with the idea of each other. Now, they’re getting to know each other on a deeper level. I would personally say that their relationship is not ‘romantic’ yet, although it’s certainly on that path.

EPISODES 4-5

Victor encourages Yuuri to select the music for his free skate, something that he didn’t have the confidence to do in the past.

This shows that Victor allows Yuuri to feel more confident in his decisions through encouragement and support, and once again proves that Victor brings out the best in him.

During a competition, Victor tells Yuuri to lower the difficulty of his jumps and Yuuri doesn’t listen. This brings into account the theme of surprise in their relationship, something that is addressed pretty often.

Yuuri declares his theme for the season to be love.

This is personally when I would consider their relationship developing into something romantic. Yuuri’s theme isn’t about love for Victor’s public playboy personality, it’s about love for Victor the person, for Victor his friend, for Victor his coach.

Meanwhile, something that is persisting throughout every episode but that is more subtle is the fact that Yuuri is bringing out the best in Victor. You don’t necessarily notice it until more information is given about Victor’s internal state  in later episodes, but Yuuri is surprising him, offering him a vicarious love of the ice that he hadn’t known in a long time due to his lack of inspiration.

EPISODES 6-7

Yuuri skates his short program trying to convince everyone that he’s worthy of having Victor Nikiforov as his coach. This is partially because of his own insecurities (he needs to prove it to himself, in a way). This comes back into play later in Yuuri’s character development, but that’s not what this is about.

Victor makes Yuuri cry in the garage. Yuuri’s line about “wanting Victor to have more faith in him than he does in himself” is representative, once again, of Victor having the potential to bring out the best in him.

This scene is mostly character-building for the both of them, but it’s also relationship-building because it’s the first time that Victor has come face to face with the ugly brute that is Yuuri’s anxiety.

They kiss!!!!!!!

I feel like that’s pretty self-explanatory honestly

So yeah, definitely romantic at this point lol.

EPISODES 8-9

Victor returns to Japan because of Makkachin, blah blah Yuuri skates.

The infamous airport reunion scene happens.

The most important aspect of this scene is a small exchange of dialogue. Yuuri says, “Please by my coach until I retire,” and Victor replies with “I wish you’d never retire.”

If that isn’t love I don’t know what is ok?? Pretty self-explanatory line, but I think it also demonstrates that Victor has come to love Yuuri for more than his skating and more than his killer thighs. He’s wholeheartedly in love with every aspect of him, anxiety and all. 

EPISODE 10

This episode, which is partially narrated by Victor, gives a lot of insight to his character, and by extension the significance of his meeting with Yuuri at the Sochi GPF Banquet (which I talked about in the Pre-Ep 1 section of this long-winded rant). 

Yuuri buys the rings.

He does not intend for them to be engagement rings.

Instead, he buys them as a gift of gratitude for Victor.

Victor declares that the rings are engagement rings and that they’ll marry once Yuuri wins the GPF.

Now, Victor has always been a dramatic character. Also, they’re both complete in love at this point.

Like I said, surprises are a big theme in their relationship, so I think they both pulled off surprises in this episode – Yuuri buying the rings and Victor changing the meaning of the rings.

Yuuri’s shock in regards to Victor saying this isn’t disapproval, it’s surprise and more of a like oh-my-god-what-are-you-doing-I-may-not-win sort of thing.

If you think about it, Victor essentially just said to a table of Yuuri’s competitors, “lol I’ma marry this boy once he kicks all of your butts.” So Yuuri is part shook by that, because he doesn’t want to upset anyone or make them think he’s assuming he’ll win, and partially because…. He’s engaged to the love of his life now?

EPISODES 11-12

The “Let’s End This” scene in the hotel occurs. Victor cries and looks beautiful while doing so.

The significance for their relationship in this scene is that Yuuri recognized the way Victor was watching the ice and assumed that he wanted to go back to skating.

However, he underestimated how much Victor enjoys being his coach (because he is, after all, an unreliable narrator).

They end up deciding that Yuuri will continue to skate, and Victor will be his coach and skate on his own.

They pair skate, and it’s beautiful.

~

Sorry about this rant anon, I’m sure this isn’t what you wanted hahaha. I hope I explained though when I believe their relationship turned romantic and the meaning of the rings from either of their perspectives.

As for when they started dating, I would say never.

They’re in love, yes, and they’re romantically involved, yes, but the way I see it, their relationship never really was at the “dating” stage. It runs deeper than that because of the way their love developed (from being in love with the idea of each other to being in love with each other).

Their relationship, as opposed to your typical linear relationship development in most shows, started deep. As deep as it could. They didn’t meet and go on a date and get each other’s phone numbers, they started in bad places and brought out the best in each other. It was a natural development, but they were never at the dating stage – they were too invested from the very beginning to do that.

However, like I said at the beginning of this ridiculous post (I’m sorry again for how long this is), these are just my opinions! I’m sure other people interpreted scenes very, very differently, so take this with a grain of salt!