#(( and tbh I coulda gone on more but I don't think people care that much about what I think ))

[guardian-rocket]

This post I made as a bit of a joke at this comment from Peter since he laughed when Rocket admits he got taken advantage of by a girl he liked.  (For clarity’s sake as I know how people’s minds wander I mean she screwed him over to do her a favor and left him to fend for himself treating him like, in his own words ‘like he was trash’)  This game version of Rocket he does seem more on the male-attracted side.

Looking at Rocket through my own lens, I have always interpreted him as on the Bi spectrum (and any alternative male/female attracted terms that may go along with it such as demi/pan/ect) I just always thought he had ‘the vibe’ of not being 100% straight. 

While MCU Rocket is extremely subtle in context of his orientation in any respect, I interpret him as being highly complex in that respect because he’s a complex character.  We also know that he had to be palatable for the widest range of people possible and people tend to clutch their metaphorical pearls at the idea of an anthropomorphic character showing anything other than platonic friendship towards another species (male OR female) unless it’s a cartoon.  (I am not going to go down that rabbit hole though.)

Now outing Rocket as actually being legitimately bi?  The world on a wider level is not ready for that... but let me grace a few examples of what I’ve picked up on his bi-coding in general.

Relationship with Elder Groot?  It has a sorta ‘gay married couple’ vibe to it, not saying that’s how their relationship worked, but there is a vibe I picked up on it.  Other than that we can kinda look at how he does really treat his male and female friends with very little distinction.  

His attachment to Peter also feels a bit crush-coded at times, I’ve seen enough breakdowns from other users to see plausibility.  He even goes around wearing Peter’s scarf in End Game, literally carrying a memento of him everywhere he goes, not to mention he just sticks by the guy despite how frequently Peter insults him.  We know he HATES being insulted, so I feel like maybe there’s implications that relationship for him is complicated.  While I know this literally can just be a close friendship, it also could be possibly more.

Another thing to note with Peter is how Rocket NEVER is seen addressing Peter’s relationship with Gamora.  He did try to get Peter to abandon her on several occasions (and on the flip side he did the same with her about Peter when Peter went to get his Walkman back on the Kynn) and even after Gamora dies, and Peter is all hung up about it, Rocket never once is seen trying to console him or talking about it in anyway.  I think we can interpret that in a number of ways, but... maybe he was jealous? Peter’s love for Gamora?  Gamora’s love of Peter?  Maybe it’s an uncomfortable topic, maybe he just doesn’t know how to talk about it because it strikes to close to home, but it’s something to note, at least.

Three humanoid females that Rocket has unabashedly expressed attraction to in the comics are all at least masculine too.   We have She-Hulk, Angela and then Star-Hawk (shown below Rocket is even using male pronouns and while maybe having a bit of a bi-awakening of some sort lol... he says what he’s thinking.)  This scene is from the 2008 comic so things weren’t quite as liberal for the LGBT as they are now, so forgive Rocket with his slight homophobic Freudian slip here.  

There is also a scene where Rouge is texting Rocket looking for relationship advice, and to be frank, that isn’t the only scene where Rocket is seen dishing out actually decent relationship advice to friends, but it really just feels like one of those troupes of getting relationship advice from a gay friend.

Over all this is all speculation, as I don’t think Marvel COULD out Rocket as being Bi at this time because he’s a popular character it’d make him more controversial than he already is, but I do hope in time we do see it revealed more directly.

Closing this rant out, I just want to clarify I don’t base this solely on what I want to see, it’s just how I see the character.  He’s just got mad bisexy energy. 

"I totally had you pegged as gay." - how this read in my head.

[king-star]

hii, i hope you're okay :) for the marvel characters ship:

i'm 5'4, dark and very long blond hair, pale, green eyes, i'm a girl (she/her pronouns) and i'm plus size!

i'm an infp, bisexual, definitely an introvert, very reserved, i've suspected i have adhd for a while now, it's very difficult for me to trust new people and i'm a little scared of abandonment, i'm a very loyal friend, my love language is physical touch (giving and receiving), i love hugs and cuddling, when i finally trust someone i'm more outgoing and funny, i'm really caring and loving, i struggle with my mental health a lot (anxiety and depression), i'm sweet, kind and i really love animals, i don't really have any dating/relationship experience.

i love to read, listen to music, watch movies/TV shows, going on walks (not hiking), spend time with my family and friends, i'm studying to be a counselor, i love to go on road trips, i love traveling even though i haven't gone to a lot of places, i love to sleep and relax.

and i think that's it! thank you so much <3

Your match is 📺Wanda Maximoff📺

~ Wanda and your relationship started as friends who were very touchy. You “platonically” cuddled all the time and just loved each other physically. Eventually emotions developed. Wanda knew you didn’t have much experience dating and decided to make the first move. Both of you are terrified of being abandoned and Wanda makes a point to make sure you know she’s around for the long haul. She does whatever she can to help your mental health as all she wants is for you to be your happiest. Wanda likes the outdoors and when the weather is nice she always begs you to walk around with her, her fingers intertwined with yours.~

A/N: i coulda wrote this one forever tbh but i needed to cut myself off at some point. ENJOY!

[oakantony]

Hi! I just wanted to stop by and tell you that I LOVE your writing, esp the biggest change series. I caught up with the youngest child as it was coming out, and I still go back to read it fairly regularly, it's so good!!! I was wondering what Killua's reaction would be to Gon and Kalluto dating? I can imagine it going so many different ways. (no pressure if you don't want to answer the question, thanks for writing!!)

First, thank you so much!!! 

(Edit: if ever you want to follow my writing progress or if you want to chat hxh in depth, feel free to join my discord: https://discord.gg/QS2Jusr --lurkers are totally welcome too. ^ ^)

This has sat here for a while because I want to write a Killua fic but I want to rewatch hxh before writing a Killua fic so I can make sure he’s not OOC ;__;! That might take months or even years, so… I’m gonna just answer now.

tbh if we’re going off (my interpretation of) canon, Killua will honestly probably be a little heartbroken. Not necessarily because he’s in love with Gon–at that point in the Biggest Change series, it’s been YEARS. A decade! Since he went missing with Alluka. A decade is a long time–and both he and Gon changed in that period of time. But before that? He had a special connection with Gon he may never have with another person. So… he’d be heartbroken, but not necessarily mad? Or even upset? 

Lots of thoughts under the cut because I cannot…….be stopped…

It’s like… Have you ever made a decision and wondered what would have happened if you did the opposite? When I was 24 i got a job opportunity doing graphic design full time at this little magazine and I took it and moved to Dallas and have been here ever since (8 years!). And sometimes I wonder where I’d be/what life would be like if I hadn’t taken that job and if I remained in Austin. Sometimes I think about it and I get a little ache right between my ribs. It’s not that I regret my choices, but there’s a curiosity that’s a little unpleasant when you think about it too hard.

Killua made the right choice, protecting his sister and himself from his psychotic family, and ultimately from his best friend. Gon had demonstrated not only that he could take care of himself, but that even when he couldn’t take care of himself, Killua couldn’t really take care of him, either. When Gon wants to self-destruct, he’s going to, and Killua would just have to live with it. I think that’s ultimately why, at least in my interpretation, they wouldn’t have worked as a couple: Gon is fine sacrificing whatever it takes to achieve his goals and Killua is fine being sacrificed for him. 

After everything that happened in the Ant/Chairman arcs, I think Killua, being possibly the smartest character in our whole main cast, recognized this fact. Gon was bad for him. His family was bad for him. And his family was bad for Alluka.

That’s why I had Killua leave; that’s why I progressed the story the way I did. I found out very recently that a lot of people were Pretty Mad about The Youngest Child, and I totally get it, because Killua and Gon are basically the best ship of all time (I’m sorry hisoillu it’s fuckin tru tho) and I shat all over it with basically a crackship of Kalluto and Gon, lmao.

But these are the kinda thoughts that went into my choice here and note that it’s totally just my interpretation and I aaaabsolutely recognize that there are other ways to make the story work. Like, I could stop and rewrite The Youngest Child to be called The Middle Child and it’d follow Killua as he comes to grips with being in love with Gon and how they would navigate their different neuroses and flaws to make a relationship work. I did the same thing with The Longest Job/The Smallest Favor, lol. I coulda done it again. And if I had all the time in the world (like maybe if I hadn’t taken that job 8 years ago and led myself down this path of 60+ hour work weeks) I could maybe do that…

But I love Kalluto and I think Kalluto’s tolerance for pain is more easily tuned for Gon’s ability to hurt, so when the idea came to me, I jumped on it. I know it seems weird but it totally worked in my brain. 

ANYWAY.

The TLDR is that Killua would be wistful but understanding. A decade after leaving, he’s matured now, and better equipped to handle the crazy shit his family gets up to. A lot of obstacles from his past are gone at this point in The Biggest Change series, so I think his homecoming would ultimately be a happy, healing moment for him. He’d learn to love Gon and Kalluto together. He’d learn to appreciate Hisoka and Illumi’s absolutely fucking weird-ass marriage. He’d see himself in Kurapika and the dumbass decisions he’s made. 

And he’d fall in love with someone eventually. What’s super hot, often shirtless, very powerful, finally confident, nearly-unmatched-in-martial-artistry adult Zushi up to nowadays? 

(That last bit’s a joke.)

[punkscowardschampions]

Ali & Carly

Ali: ⚰ knock knock Ali: do i need to get the ouija out Carly: yea Carly: tho bit late to ghost the lad in my bed Carly: idk who he is Ali: 🤠 put on a disguise Ali: like whomst Ali: beats having to leave your own gaff Ali: tho it is a crime scene Carly: got love bites from my arse to my elbow Carly: is he a vamp or what like Carly: i taste good i kno Carly: [sends photographic evidence] Ali: bitch Ali: are you anaemic?! Ali: leech sounds more like it but is he sparkly with good hair Carly: bitch its too early for words i cant spell wtf Carly: he is sparkling but thats my shine ha Carly: the hair is a no Ali: low on iron, probs, i'll get you some iron tablets Ali: taste like blood, don't tell your bedmate, he won't wanna leave Ali: party's over n sharing ain't caring Ali: someone's feeling herself this morning Ali: here for it Ali: I've already been left so that's a no to me Carly: party only ended when i passed out a few hours ago Carly: so yea Carly: was fun Carly: baby no come over Ali: was whilst it lasted for me too but you know Ali: duty calls Ali: you sure Ali: don't wanna break it up if you're good to go again Carly: yea Carly: not scared to go hard on site cuz garda are to come around Carly: i am but hes snoring Carly: & boring Carly: come Ali: perks Ali: check he's not bumped his head Ali: they'd have to come if a normie went missing Carly: nah he has to go before he goes for a slash in my bed Carly: lads are ming Ali: want me to forward that to lene Ali: make her day Ali: steal my girl Carly: do Carly: never seen her party before Carly: weird Ali: Yeah Ali: she can hang but Ali: you know, other shit on her mind Ali: work being one of 'em Ali: thank god I ain't working today Carly: & i cant get a job Carly: ha Carly: can get rid of this boy easy tho Carly: hold on Ali: another skill for the CV Carly: yea Carly: better not have knocked me up Carly: not cute Ali: Umm Ali: you need to go to the pharmacy Carly: theres so much shit on the floor i cant tell whats us & whats party Carly: idc Carly: idk Carly: ill ask him Ali: Lemme know Ali: if I could pick it up for you I would Ali: guess I can, put on a oscar winning show for the nosy bitch in there Ali: Ma will die Carly: ha Carly: its k he wouldnt have gone near me w out Carly: quoted Ali: what a prick Ali: better not be there when i show up cunt Carly: hes leaving Carly: screaming him awake will do that like Carly: ha Ali: what he get for passing out 🤷 Ali: coulda shaved his eyebrows off like Carly: next time maybe Ali: get out the sharpie and all Ali: now it's a party Carly: need your artsy talents tho Carly: me just hold up i need my baby Ali: you got it covered babe Ali: i believe in you Carly: aw Carly: i gotta clean me & this place need belief Ali: how long are your rents away and are there enough stragglers we can rope in Ali: twatface not included, bye Carly: idk but yea theres lads everywhere Carly: mattress is covered Ali: 👏 Ali: put 'em to work Carly: while i lie here k Ali: hmm Ali: no bitch Ali: i know you're princess 'round these parts but still Ali: carriage is back to being a pumpkin sweetie Carly: but im 🤒 Ali: you're hanging Ali: can't claim morning sickness now bitch Ali: chop chop Carly: ha Carly: k bitch Carly: honeymoon over yea Ali: will be if your 'rents come back to this and murder you Carly: idc Carly: be sweet to me Ali: awh baby Ali: only playing tough love Ali: thinking i'm spending too much time with my gf? Carly: yea Carly: i missed you when she stole you away Ali: how dare she 😜 Ali: missed you too tho Carly: youre mine Carly: married you first Carly: & you didnt say bye to me 😢 Ali: are you sure Ali: 'cos I ain't Ali: but how unforgivably rude 😰 Carly: id remember Carly: never forget my boo Ali: baby Carly: you can make it up to me tho Ali: oh yeah? Ali: lemme guess, feed u grapes whilst you recline Carly: nah just be here Ali: easy Ali: got to yoga first but then i'll be there Ali: went too hard with the dancing last night obvs Carly: k ill shower that lad off me Carly: i think you went just right baby Ali: too descriptive babe 😬😂 Ali: calm down with your creative ways Carly: ha Carly: you should hear me sext Carly: so good Ali: sure Ali: maybe works on the straight boys 😉 Carly: not trying to work on anyone else Carly: tell your gf if shes gonna come for me Ali: you're alright, not her type Ali: I barely am Ali: 50% like Carly: shit odds Carly: that why shes so angry Ali: as shit as yours Ali: just in reverse Ali: not saying you're both wrong but Carly: k Carly: cant all be perfect babe Carly: thats just you Ali: 💁 Carly: you kno Ali: ugh my brother's being so annoying Ali: bitch i'm coming down i will fight you Carly: which 1 Ali: dancing one Carly: hes fun Ali: glad you think so Ali: send him over instead yeah Carly: you come here & stay at yours Carly: i'll Ali: alright Ali: you're getting a rough deal soz Carly: why Ali: 'cos he's usually the alright one, so if he's testing me, wait 'til the rest rock up Carly: idc i can sleep through anything Ali: be my guest Carly: but i want you to be mine Carly: had to share last nite Ali: you done w sharing? Carly: yea Carly: im mad Ali: aww Ali: pouty princess Carly: [sends a pouty selfie] Carly: cuz its better when you stay Ali: you're so cute Ali: it's rude and i object Carly: just for you my baby Ali: 😏 such a tease Carly: nah Carly: you can have anything you want Ali: yeah yeah Ali: anything you want from the shops Carly: theres nothing here Carly: i cant do that to you Ali: okay, i'll get breakfast and cleaning shit Carly: theres no money tho Ali: i don't mind Ali: s'only breakfast Ali: IOU if you want but honestly Carly: you're too good to me & for me boo Ali: nah i'm not Ali: no one deserves to be treated like shit the morning after Carly: got me crying Ali: baby Ali: don't be sad Carly: come down is a bitch but youre an angel Ali: 💚 i know Ali: you've survived it many a time before though, you'll be okay Ali: especially when you get some food and hugs Carly: yea Carly: shouldve invited your brother to my party Carly: what a bitch i am Ali: no no, he ain't here, just blowing up my phone being dumb Ali: you're alright, sure you'll meet him when summers out and he's out on town being fabulous Carly: k didnt fuck up the 1st impression Carly: love the gays Carly: your gf excluded like Ali: he's stalked your socials and liked what he's seen Ali: not in a creepy way 'cos gay, of course Ali: awh 😂 why can't we all get along Carly: he can add me i wont send him nudes Carly: cuz she looks at me like she was willing me to hang this hard Ali: oh good to know 😜 Ali: not letting him though, he chats shite and if he's gonna I need to vet it Ali: deal with it boy, crazy posessive wife like Ali: she's just angry with me Carly: idk who lads are if i cant id them in my usual and not seen his dick Carly: my bad if nudes go where they shouldnt Carly: whats he saying about me Carly: who could be angry at you too beautiful Ali: me either for a while, like Ali: feel it's unfair to describe it from memory of having to bath together Ali: awks Ali: just that you're cute Ali: n fun, of course Ali: and a hoe with it 😜 so her, easily lol Carly: aw Carly: but you didnt snog ronan last nite he werent there Ali: nah but she thinks i'm making a twat out of myself with you Ali: tragic straight girl crush, like Carly: cant have a crush on your missus Carly: weve gone beyond it Carly: real love Ali: yeah Ali: but you know Carly: she thinks were gonna fuck Carly: 3way would sort that Ali: exactly Ali: can't on principle Ali: and even if we whack out the strapon, no real dick for you so Carly: list where ive been Carly: puts loads of people off Carly: she'll know youre not trying to get w me Ali: i'm not gonna do you like that Ali: fuck that Carly: idc Carly: do what youve gonna do boo Ali: i know you don't Ali: but i do Ali: fuck those people who are just mad they weren't higher up in the list Ali: s'why you weren't so jog on Carly: stop being so nice to me Carly: if youre mean she'll forget her jealousy Ali: i don't want to Ali: i can handle it Ali: if she can't then Ali: that's that, isn't it Carly: yea Carly: but i dont wanna start shit for you Ali: trust, you didn't start this Ali: it's easier for her to pretend that's all it is Ali: that's all Carly: k Carly: if i was a lad id be fucked wouldnt i Ali: probably Ali: don't agree with that, it'd be the same but it'd be different in how she'd be able to deal, yeah Carly: thank god i grew some tits Ali: 😂 Ali: good job babe Carly: my ma was made up as well Carly: took a while like Carly: cant let her get the album out cuz i look like a lad Carly: pretty one tho Ali: you were always cute Ali: i remember Ali: grew into your ears and all 😉 Carly: aw Carly: do you tho? Ali: yeah, 'course Carly: you were always scrapping Carly: shouldve got w your gf then she'd like you more Ali: 😬 let us not think of how troubling the age gap woulda seemed then Ali: must've thought i was a right scouse stereotype Ali: bitches deserved it tho Carly: i thought you were cute Carly: & brave Carly: i was always behind my ma's legs Ali: like my sister Ali: I was always down for the more the merrier but her and Laoise said coven's had to be three so Ali: 🔮 number and all Ali: and tbh Laoise weren't that thrilled Ro was there, like Carly: black magic vibes from her forever Ali: legit Ali: shoulda been scrapping with her, like Carly: yea or fucking her first bf but i got there before you Carly: idk how she knew tho cuz he didnt tell anyone Ali: never lose that sixth sense, babe Ali: esp. when concerning keeping a man 🙄 Carly: did her a favor he was shit Carly: didnt have a clue what he was doing Carly: thought every virgin binge watched porn like Ali: 😂 Ali: have you ever binge watched? you're learning nothing of value from that shite Carly: yea but when youre bored youre bored Ali: I hear ya Ali: always bored Carly: me too Carly: & this sex drive isnt set for a cry wank or eye fuck Carly: no offence ma and da Ali: can't take it personally, lads Ali: ain't there's to try and control Carly: they gotta txt me back so i kno when they are coming home Carly: wtf got you two so busy Ali: all that sex they ain't having Carly: porn binge watch Carly: tho my dad likes reading his Ali: Can't beat a sticky page Ali: lost arm form Ali: art, lmao Ali: sure his form is grand Carly: doctor like howd you lose that arm Carly: epic cry wank Ali: 💪 on the right Ali: limp noodle on the other Carly: hot Ali: that's your father you're talking about Ali: no need to be that stereotypical Carly: shit my bad Ali: 😂 Ali: i love you bitch Carly: I love you too Carly: loads Carly: im mad at you again tho Ali: why what have i done>!> Carly: some1 came round the doorway & i thought it was you so i opened up but nah Carly: enjoy the eyeful lads Ali: oh babe Ali: 😏 bless you Carly: not gonna put clothes on for my girl Carly: waste of time Ali: obvs, charm you out so quick Ali: least it weren't the postie, or was it Ali: Ma reckons we were gonna get complaints, as if mother Carly: lad did deliver for me Carly: not letters tho Carly: least id showered Ali: gotta replenish Ali: you chasing off your comedown rn tho Carly: cant outrun that bitch Carly: some of the mas on site are mad tho you can tell yours Carly: state of their sons my bad Carly: should've kept em in if you were bothered Ali: oh great Ali: no you can't speak to the manager, piss off helen Carly: ha Carly: my da is gonna be in such a mood when he hears Carly: sorry you missed out Ali: parents Ali: not like anyone died Ali: calm it everyone Carly: dont want me to fuck on site dont want me to go off it Carly: talk sense Carly: other day you were trying to marry me off da Ali: just 'cos it brings people to his door Ali: soz to take you away from all the cranking but Carly: yea Carly: sorry im not hiding in the back like w i was little Ali: yeah Ali: too big for the caravan now baby Ali: need your own, how much is it to rent Carly: theyre on about it but the state on this one might change their minds Carly: im cleaning as fast as i can k Ali: we're gonna sort it, i am omw swear Ali: and i'm a parent pleaser so Ali: do the rounds, sweettalk to mothers Carly: he'll just take me back to the doctors like take her off the tablets shes too outgoing now thx Carly: another of your talents boo Ali: when the meds work TOO well Ali: but of course Carly: if he was around hed kno how shit they are Carly: ha Ali: 😔 Ali: baby Carly: its k just gotta double down Carly: pro now Ali: 💚 Carly: style the freakout out cuz ima bad bitch Carly: facts and talents Ali: no lies Ali: the baddest Carly: what we doing today that isnt boring Ali: you mean you ain't buzzing to make like kim and aggy Ali: rude, i'm living Carly: do anything w you but Carly: can only check you out every time you bend Ali: cheeky Ali: appaz imma check all of you out, like Carly: what you dont wanna Carly: your gf will be sad shes so wrong Ali: didn't say that but yeah Ali: hate to make her admit that as well, like Carly: ill tell her Ali: you gonna snitch on me Ali: 🍯 Carly: nah jk Carly: i like annoying her tho Ali: i know Ali: it is funny Ali: not taking sides but lol Carly: taking mine i kno Ali: shh Ali: there's no right or wrong here, babe Carly: k but you love me more Ali: its different Carly: maybe Ali: maybe huh Carly: idk she dont think it is Ali: yeah Ali: but we know the truth Carly: fact is we're ruling this place together Carly: no surprise shes jealous Ali: if the 👑 fits like Ali: soz babe Carly: & we fit Carly: cant fight it Ali: nope Ali: if it works it works Carly: yea & you work it better than anyone babe Ali: oh you Ali: save it for all the Ma's you gotta say soz to Ali: 💋 Carly: ha Carly: mine will kick my arse out if she gets on one better leave the mattress where it is Ali: not gonna come to that but always room for a lil one at ours Ali: i got you Carly: aw Carly: never had a sleepover when i was a kid Ali: 😧 then you gotta Ali: tbh they weren't all that always but you know mine were the best Carly: yea no doubt Carly: all the magic Ali: exactly, midnight snacks and scaring the shit out of each other Ali: can tell you who you gonna marry if you've got a tea light, like Carly: thats easy tho Carly: no1 Ali: alright then, excluding the fact we already is so rude, tbh Ali: i'll tell you who you next gonna bang Ali: same diff Carly: youre just gonna say you Carly: smooth Ali: please Ali: gimme some credit 😂 Carly: now i gotta kno Ali: we'll do it when i get there Ali: which will be soon Ali: got stuck chatting to an old lady in the shop Ali: assume she can't see or she'd have avoided me like hell 😂 bless her Carly: if its ronan again or his cousin dont tell me Carly: aw so cute Carly: youre the sweetest & prettiest ever Ali: i'll casually throw the wax in the bin like nothing to see here Ali: not this morning baby but 1/2 ain't bad #stillgotit Carly: tell me you see my death & run like k bye Carly: every morning Ali: you'd rather your literal death? they ain't THAT bad, predictable but like, damn Ali: that's some shade, feel the burn, lads Ali: so are you cutie Carly: idk but over ronan hard Carly: hes being such an arsehole to me Carly: cba Ali: don't Ali: ignore his Carly: yea but like im gonna see him even if i do Carly: fucking site life Ali: i kno but blank him Ali: nothing talks louder Ali: or if you gotta, be proper polite like he's a stranger Carly: ha yea Carly: amazing Ali: childish but so is he so Ali: two can play at that game Carly: youre right i kno Carly: ive deleted his txts so i cant show you but its k cuz youd be sad Carly: or mad Ali: i'm sure i could guess the gist Ali: you can tell me if you wanna talk about it though, i promise i won't go ripshit Carly: idc Carly: ive known him long so i didnt think hed go that hard but thats what lads are like Carly: he fucks around more than me too Ali: he's a hypocrite Ali: just 'cos he knows other lads can do it better Ali: he's just insecure, babe, ignore him Carly: i need a holiday from here Carly: but ma & da never take me w Ali: shit considering how many times they manage Ali: cut a hol off and you'd have enough funds lads Ali: maybe we can Carly: i did kick off last time cuz they didnt refill my prescription Carly: went crazy like Carly: wouldnt want that girl there either Ali: not your fault, that, though Ali: you were literally off your meds Carly: that they reckon i dont need tho Ali: if you didn't then you wouldn't act like that without Ali: simple as Carly: never thought of that Ali: we'll go, i promise Ali: even if it ain't far Carly: lets camp Carly: marshmallows are the shit Ali: hell yeah! Ali: let's find a cave forreal Carly: YEA Carly: dont fall over tho Ali: do my best 😂 Carly: you gotta Carly: only scaring me w ghost stories or whatever Ali: promise Carly: k we'll go Carly: 💙 Ali: 💚 done and done Ali: do you wanna bring anyone else or Carly: got my fave coming Carly: do you Ali: nah Ali: just wanna take you exploring Carly: k Carly: then you can Ali: 👌 Carly: id go now so whenever you want boo Ali: soon Ali: i'll work it out Carly: i kno Carly: got the belief Ali: 🔮 Carly: should get dressed or nothing'll get done Ali: awh Ali: you knew i just got here Carly: they arent on yet Carly: not that fast Ali: jk Ali: find me on the mattress when you're decent bitch Carly: baby no Carly: youll catch something off that Ali: sitting on the carrier bag Ali: always thinking Carly: so smart

[louiseblue1]

I feel bad for cast & crew that Arrow only got .5 rating this wk & yet I don't like a lot of the s/l this yr. As a writer, do you think the EPs & writers have made mostly good choices? IMO, the biggest mistake has been the hard break & lack of acknowledgement re: Olicity's history (ex. ep #13 - no mention of F's injury). Also I think they could have introduced/handled LIs better or skipped altogether. What do you think has worked re: Olicity in S5? Lots of fan frustration & lack of trust. Tx.

I think Arrow has two big issues, Nonnie. One, if somethings a plot point, then it’s painfully obvious. Case in point Billy and Susan. We were just told about them and not shown. And there wasn’t a huge care factor if the showing didn���t exactly match up with the telling. The biggest and longest example of this was LL. We were told she was awesome and yet so little effort went into showing us any such thing. In fact the opposite was true most of the time. And here’s the thing, if they’d acknowledged her short comings and made her more vulnerable and accessible because of that, then that would have totally worked. But they didn’t. We were just meant to believe she was fantastic at everything and ignore anything she got wrong. So plot points characters in Arrow, the ones that are just there for a short time and a specific purpose, or ones that they just don’t enjoy writing for… it shows. A lot. That’s a bit frustrating to me. 

And I think Arrow’s biggest enemy is its pacing. That’s always going to be a huge issue for them. Take the Olicity break up… see, there is kind of a formula in my head for this kind of thing. If Arrow was a romance show, then yes, taking this amount of time to get them back together would be okay. Because we’d still be seeing a lot of interactions between them and a lot of exposition of the romance/break up. But Arrow isn’t a romance show. It’s an action/drama, so concentration on romantic relationships only makes up about 5% of the show. It then gets very complicated and tedious to maintain a thread between them over months and months with only giving them 5% of their allocated screen time. It’s why people are saying Olicity are being ignored, overlooked etc. 

A more sensible pacing for those two would have had them reunited by about 510 IMO, if they were going to continue to have the 5% allocation of time to romance per episode. TBH, I think they should have reorganised the back half of S4 and had them deal with all of there issues and Felicity’s issues. Her dark spiral should have been back then, and then I think it’d have worked to have them just sort everything out and then Felicity gets ripped away - arrested, kidnapped etc, and we start S5 with Olicity together but not together. Felicity could have an alone arc dealing with what happened to her, as the rest of OTA worked on saving her. And it could have brought out more issues for Felicity, given her PTSD and then even when they reunited, they could still have been working through that - still mirroring Oliver’s experience as much as we’ve done this season. 

Ultimately though I don’t tend to dwell too much on the woulda, coulda, shoulda side of things. For me personally I don’t find it helpful. Arrow did what it did how it did it, and I’m just here to deal and move on through it. I’m pretty pragmatic about these kinds of things. I don’t think Arrow has violated any of its internal canon or basic narrative by going the way they did. I think there were a lot of other ways they could have gone that arguably would have fitted their rhythm better, but then, I’m not privy to all the other things they have to accommodate in their pacing, so that’s easy for me to say. I want to continue to enjoy Arrow, so I work on finding the narrative thread and just following that. If that thread breaks for me, then that’s another thing altogether. That hasn’t happened yet, so I’m happy enough to toodle along, doing my thing for the time being. :)