#'why does it have a final boss. why didn't shadow break immersion & swim even though he loses a life if he falls into water'
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man yesterday's "debate" with that dude on Twitter was like
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"Why didn't Sonic just warp directly to the Cannon in SA2?"
"Because the Core was flooded and needed to be drained first. If he warped there, he would have drowned because it was submerged."
[long detour, in which it is okay for them to bring up the Olympic Games' gameplay as proof as Shadow can swim, but not okay for me to bring up SA2's gameplay as proof he cannot because every character drowns in SA2, therefore it doesn't count. also I have not played the games, apparently, because I did not show them a screenshot of Shadow explicitly turning to the camera and saying "I cannot swim"]
"GOALPOST MOVING, U ILLITERATE CHODE. Okay but why didn't Sonic warp directly to the Eclipse Cannon to destroy it?"
"Because Sonic was inexperienced in Chaos Control. When he used it for the first time to escape the capsule, he landed in a completely random spot. You can't risk accidentally teleporting even farther away from your goal when the clock is ticking."
"HMM, AWFUL SUS HOW HE WASTED PRECIOUS TIME BY FIGHTING SHADOW."
"Yeah, but he was headed towards the Eclipse Cannon anyway. Also it's worth noting that the boss fight is structured like a race for a reason."
"BUT SONIC FIGHTS SHADOW TOO, IT'S NOT JUST A RACE."
"I didn't say it was just a race."
"BUT SONIC STOPPED TO FIGHT SHADOW WHEN HE COULD HAVE TELEPORTED AWAY FROM SHADOW."
"And Shadow would have hunted him down, because Eggman called Shadow to intercept him. If Sonic hadn't beaten him, he could very well have been killed and failed the mission. Besides, by virtue of being, you know, the fastest hedgehog alive, Sonic can manage both defeating Shadow while outracing him to the Cannon."
"BUT SONIC COULD HAVE DESTROYED THE CANNON FIRST AND THEN FOUGHT SHADOW."
"yeah I guess, if you wanna twist things that way. fuck me man idk what you want me to say"
"SO YOU ADMIT THE SEQUENCE OF EVENTS DOESN'T MATTER AND I WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG. WHY DID YOU FIGHT ME ON THIS?"
Lol just say you don't want to meet the narrative in good faith and bounce.
#yeah that. that 'discussion' did little to persuade me that they actually have played sa2#because most of their arguments were in the vein of 'ugh why does this video game function like a video game'#'why does it have a final boss. why didn't shadow break immersion & swim even though he loses a life if he falls into water'#'why does sonic - the character famed for running fast - run to the eclipse cannon instead of teleporting despite being kinda bad at it'#'why didn't shadow have his heel-face turn BEFORE he had his heel-face turn when the others were already well within the cannon's core'#the most hilarious part was that all of this hot air was ultimately puffed in service of the point that 'sa2's writing is fickle'#I don't even necessarily disagree with that on its face but there's a major difference between saying 'yeah this game has a few plot holes'#and loudly proclaiming 'UGH THIS VIDEO GAME STORY WOULD BE SO MUCH BETTER IF IT WEREN'T A VIDEO GAME' like you're making a scathing point
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