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If fiction doesn't affect reality, then why do we need representation. why don't want just make every character in every media from now on a white cishetallo abled neurotypical man and nothing else.

what kind of question is that

you've taken two unrelated things (representation in media VS the affect media has on reality) and just smushed them together

representation is important because of OPPRESSION and CENSORSHIP

being proship is being against oppression and censorship in media. therefore being for representation

the difference here is a REFLECTION OF REALITY (representation) and a FICTIONAL SCENARIO of two MADE UP CHARACTERS

this is just fucking racist

you're acting like white cishet abled men are the default and this is damaging to all minorities.

put ur thinking cap on

[leaf-goes-rabid]

hi! i am sending this question with a genuine desire to understand, not to harass. regarding your "being antiship isn't punk" post: while i am absolutely against censorship, isn't there genuinely content out there that should not be shared (ie. propaganda, misinformation, etc)? and, if so, where does the censorship line between that kind of content and things like proshipping, etc, lie? or is it your opinion that any censorship, even of genuinely harmful content (meaning outright propaganda, stuff that would truly harm if seen and believed) is not right? again, all of this is genuinely me wanting to understand. thank you for your time and any information you can provide on the subject! /gen

I think it’s important first to recognise the history of censorship being centred around the silencing of minorities and marginalised groups.

It’s also incredibly important to protect marginalised people from actively harmful hate speech and propaganda by appropriately setting rules in place regarding this.

Propaganda itself is used to censor minority and marginalised groups as having these voices shut down leads to the flourishing of hate speech and propaganda. I believe there needs to be a structure in place for education surrounding people who are posting and engaging with hate speech and propaganda. However, censorship is not the same as the debunking of and breaking down of right wing talking points.

This is honestly a tough question to answer and requires a lot more research for myself to do, before I can honestly feel confident enough in my opinion. For now, I’m unfortunately on the fence and vaguely peaking over at both sides of the coin here.

But regarding the line between proshipping and harmful content:

Proshipping (or ship and let ship / don’t like don’t read) is built around engaging with fiction. And doesn’t support the harm of real beings. So I believe there’s a pretty stark line between proshipping/profiction content and harmful media.

Thank you for opening up this discussion, I’m also open to hearing more from you if you have something to voice regarding this.

(I'd also like to apologise for not providing sources currently, I'm in the midst of a very busy week and have little ability to pour through articles for personal reasons. As in the original post I believe you're referencing, Fox lays out the line between fiction and real harmful material and provides some references. I'll provide the link again: here)

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you good? i hope you're good, i like your posts a lot

Hai! Doing okayyyyyy and hope you are too!!

Make sure you drink water :3

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