#“eternal curse that forgot himself & cursed human with unconditional love for him anyway thats tricked into assisting with his suicide"
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does finn/fern count as selfcest? I never really thought it did tbh.
I'm gonna hit you with a big fat "it depends" (on which episode).
Pre Do No Harm? Yeah, I think it counts. Fern still (tentatively) believes himself to be Finn, reinforced by Finn's "sure we are."
Post Do No Harm? shaky "no" because Fern is out finding himself until he moves back in to crash on the roof, but he is still conflicted.
Post Three Buckets? def not but people feel weird about it because of the "almost like real brothers" line, discarding the follow up dialogue:
Finn does this with anyone that looks around his age tho (in the comics he does it to Gata-- his own adopted sister ffs, nothing stops this dude), it's an endearing feature of his character but we just haven't had another guy for him to be a clingy weirdo towards-- so it's easy to brush off as an awkward throw away line to play up Fern's detachment/malice in his silence.
Post Come Along With Me? we're back to selfcest because the writers pulled a 180 on the whole point of Fern's character arc of accepting himself/accepting change with the "I'm me again" junk. (I'm still ticked about that btw.) But unless a fic pulls "and then Fern popped out of the ground" or something it's just Finn yapping at a tree/sword that MIGHT be able to hear him.
Is it selfcest? Depends on which Fern we're talking about. Is it ever actually true selfcest? No. The Finn sword itself has had almost two years separated from "Finn" as a concept and humanity as a whole, Finn #2 has grown past himself and into a different, more well adjusted dude. Throw in the grass demon and you've got a completely different person that's struggling with an identity that won't fit despite the Finn face boxing him into it.
Some people will say selfcest = looks the same, disregard everything else. So. Take my opinion with a hefty shoulder toss of salt.
#asks#i dont rly write it as selfcest i just toss in some junk about shared memories or using “we” if they're talking abt pre-fern happenings#but some people like the ship FOR that-- its just not my slant on things. im more enraptured by:#“eternal curse that forgot himself & cursed human with unconditional love for him anyway thats tricked into assisting with his suicide"#cuz ow wow jeez thats the good heartache boy. doomed af.#we're talking on the general fandom accepted definition of selfcest here not my own which is a “yes”#because Fern knows what it is to be Finn from the inside#but that's like... a much longer post lol
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