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cuntservant · 1 year ago
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SIGRUN | Dragon Age: Origins - Awakening
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unicaler · 1 month ago
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Подруга вчера сказала, что я как Джон из Лололошки... Чтож, я польщена, закапывать их не буду)
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velvet-vox · 4 months ago
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A needlessly over-complicated analysis on Doll's bathroom line.
<<<<Previous part (unnecessary)
I thought that, since I brought it up, I might as well analyze the one line from Doll that I tend to overlook the most, so that I can move on from it and forget about his existence again, since, quite frankly, I doubt that I'm going to bring it up again in the future, as I don't see any use for it outside of its context: it's just a silly, comedic line whose only other purpose is hide a minor incongruence in the story.
Final note: this is a serious analysis, but this line isn't meant to be taken seriously, so while I will try to look at it with analytical lenses and insert it into the slightly more serious larger picture of the show, I'm not going to pretend like that's something Liam Vickers ever expected anyone to do.
Once again, the lines in question are these:
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...... It's a joke.
1: How did it slip under my radar for so long?
The first and major problem that I have with this line, and the reason why I ended up overlooking it for so long, is that it comes right after what is my favourite line of dialogue from Lizzy:
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"Dude, no one will notice SHE is missing. Just do your thing, and I'll let in V. We'll see you there!"
As a Doll analyst, this line gives me A LOT to think about, it not only provides a lot of implied characterisation for both Doll and Lizzy alike, but it may also be the closest we get at understanding how deep their partnership truly went.
In fact, let's actually take a break from the Doll line and let's talk about this Lizzy one instead.
Why is Lizzy saying this line to Doll? The most obvious conclusion one may arrive at is that this line is a response that Lizzy is making to something Doll has said to her off screen. So, what did Doll say to get Lizzy to respond like that?
At first glance, it would seem that Doll was showing Lizzy concern for being caught by killing Uzi, after all, both Khan and the Teacher know that Uzi went at Doll's place to prepare for Prom, it would basically be impossible for the two of them to pass off as unaware. It would also perfectly line up with the picture of Doll that was built up to this point in the episode. But then... The rest of the episode actually happened.
So, Doll CLEARLY always intended to blow off her cover at the Prom, when she would finally kill V. Furthermore, Doll doesn't seem particularly concerned with chasing down Uzi, as her reaction to as they say in Russian whoops, I should've predicted that someone could escape out of the ventilation shaft using discarded mirrors as stairs would entail.
So, why does Doll feel any form of concern over killing Uzi when she's yet unaware of the fact that Uzi is a Solver host? Could Doll have possibly... cared about Uzi before even knowing that she also shared her sickness? These are questions for another time.
Going back to the titular line of dialogue that started all of this, let's actually try to dissect the individual components of this pun to see if there's any new or weird information (aka implications, because that's all you ever get out of Doll) that we can extrapolate from it.
2: Over analysing the nothing.
(If you wish to know what rules for this analysis are... I don't really have any. Once again, I don't think anyone on the production team of this show was expecting people to take this line seriously, once again, this is a comedic line, and while I am going to sound serious in the following segment, most of the stuff I'm going to say can be chalked up to mere, yet fun, speculation.)
The scene starts with Uzi panicking at the mere sight of Doll's broken furniture, and then hearing footsteps coming closer to the bathroom's door. Having terrible feelings about what's about to happen, Uzi quickly pulls a Dream clutch and uses the mirrors inside the bathtub to reach the ventilation shaft above her head and escape from Doll's apartment.
After setting foot inside the bathroom and seeing what Uzi has been up to, Doll reacts by putting her mechanical hands on her sides and finally proclaiming the iconic line:
As they say in Russian...
"Whoops, I should've predicted that someone could escape out of a ventilation shaft using discarded mirrors as stairs."
Doll keeps staring at the moved out vent in the ceiling for a couple of seconds, with a dumbfounded yet pensive expression, then the scene ends.
Fun fact: this is the longest uninterrupted string of words that we ever see Doll formulate, as she's quite the quiet type.
Let's start our analysis by taking a look at the first phrase:
As they say in Russian...
Already, there's a question we could ask: who or what does "they" refer to?
It could probably be another "sentient" being by Worker Drones standards, as it's highly unlikely for there to exist a not-sentient object/machine that said the hyper specific line of "Whoops, I should've...." enough times or in such a memorable way for Doll to have it internalised as something "they" say.
Though remember, the Murder Drones universe is also extremely unserious by nature, so it's entirely possible for there to exist a preprogrammed machine that says this very specific lines in Russian.
I can totally imagine a shop alarm in the Murder Drones universe going like: "Whoops, I should've predicted that someone could escape out of a ventilation shaft using discarded mirrors as stairs." in Russian when someone steals something from the store. It's reasonable to assume that Doll inherited some money from her parents when they died, hence how she manages to pay taxes without getting a job (if Workers need to pay taxes at all), but I doubt she actually uses them to buy groceries and other stuff. I wouldn't put stealing past her.
Where was I? Oh right.
It can't be something. It has to be somebody.
But who?
The second part of the phrase that we have yet to discuss clues us in that whoever this somebody must be is capable of speaking "in Russian".
The word "Russian" actually makes a universe of difference, because if the actual sentence was "As they say in Russia..." like how I remembered it to be, the answer to the question "Who?" would be much more simple: Doll has never been to Earth, where Russia is, therefore, with this phrase she was actually referring to the Humans/Drones that inhabited Russia on that planet, and unless Doll has secretly had contact with a human/drone coming from that country in the past, she either must have gotten this information from another source, or she's making it up on the spot basing it on her preconceived assumptions.
But no, the line of dialogue is "As they say in Russian...", which is ten times more vague.
Keeping in mind that the aforementioned theory of the russian humans/drones being the answer to the "who does they refer to" question is still a valid conclusion, other candidates could be Doll's classmates, teachers, neighbours, unknown russian drones and parents.
While we can't defy one, singular, correct answer to the question, let's review our options either way:
- Classmates - I'm going to divide Doll's classmates into two possible camps (fever): those who speak Russian as their default language, and those who don't speak Russian as their default language.
As far as we are aware, none of the students in Uzi's class aside from Doll speak Russian by default, which means that the default Russian speaking classmates in question must be students of other classes. We see Doll hunt down and kill some kids of other classes right at the start of the episode, implying that both Doll and Lizzy know various other students in their school, and probably spend time with them.
In case the students in question are the classmates that we have seen in the episodes from 1 to 4, whom we know for a fact that they don't speak Russian, then let's ask us another question to divide them into two more groups: can Drones change their language setting, or are they stuck with their default one?
If Drones can change their language setting to Russian from English, then a reasonable conclusion as to why Doll's classmates said "Whoops, I should've predicted that someone could escape out of a ventilation shaft using discarded mirrors as stairs." in Russian was to mock Doll for messing up something in her language, and it remained impressed inside Doll's mind exactly due to the circumstances and people it was used (It's not really probable).
If Drones cannot change their default language setting, then this implies that Doll's classmates and at least all of Gen 2 Worker Drones kind can speak languages not adhering to their default one, which, while a fun and interesting theory, doesn't lead us anywhere.
- Teachers - it's definitely possible, we don't know if Liam is the only teacher at their school, for what we know, the class or the school could have multiple teachers, and some of them could be Russian speaking ones; probably, since Russian speaking Worker Drones were likely built to serve humans who could only speak or primarily spoke russian, the russian speaking teachers could've taught Doll what they perceived as some way of saying the Russians taught them.
The line "Whoops, I should've predicted that someone could escape out of a ventilation shaft using discarded mirrors as stairs." would then make far more sense than you think: we know that the humans used Copper-9 as a base for their experiments, therefore, it's possible for one of these experiments to have escaped through a ventilation shaft using, and the Russian speaking human in service could have said the iconic line in front of one of his pet drones, to which he interpreted it as something Russian people say in general.
I'm attributing this theory to the teachers, but this also applies to Doll's parents, just like the default language question applies to both students and all of Worker Drone kind alike.
- Neighbours - we're never given any reason to believe that Doll has neighbours, much less that she interacts/has interacted with them and they spoke to her in her language setting; they are a perfectly valid answer, but they are also an incredibly bland and uninteresting one.
- Unknown Russian speaking Worker Drones - pretty much in the same camp as Doll's neighbours; they are perfectly valid, but they are a blank slate type of answer. Also, one thing against both this and the neighbours theory being plausible is that these made up characters should be memorable enough in order for Doll to pick up their lines as something she would quote in this situation.
Memorability isn't a necessary qualification for the classmates and the teachers, as Doll is forced to see them every single day of her life, meaning that even if she finds them boring, she has to put up with them enough times for her to memorise some of their characteristics.
- Parents - Lastly, we arrive at Doll's parents, characters that have massive importance to Doll's personal life story.
It's heavily theorised by the community that Doll's parents probably spoke russian a lot, and may have even been their default language; this theory is so popular that the majority of the fanbase views it as canon, and can you blame them? The evidence is there:
Yeva is the russian version of the name Eve, wife of Adam, first sinner, giving Doll's mother (and maybe her father too, if we ever end up learning his name is not Mitchell 👀) possible ties to the Bible. Also, if Doll's parents spoke Russian, it would explain why Doll speaks that language as well: she probably inherited that default language setting from them, or at the very least she favours it over other options because that's how her parents preferred to speak, in case she's able to change her own language settings.
That being said... What reason would Doll's parents have to say the following line of "Whoops, I should've..." at all? Much less in front of Doll?
Yeva had the patch, therefore she probably didn't need to kill and consume other Worker Drones for their oil, and it seems that Doll only awakened her Solver powers when her parents died, so again, if the implication is that someone tried to escape out of a ventilation shaft using discarded mirrors as stairs (mirrors that, may I remind you, probably weren't there when Doll's parents were alive, and were put there by Doll after she was orphaned) and Doll's parents were commenting on that in Russian, what would have been the necessary situation for this to happen?
Furthermore, Doll uses the word "say", not "said", and if Doll's parents are truly dead like we think, it would be illogical of Doll to quote their words with the present form of the verb, unless she's delusional and still believes they are alive, which is something plausible if their position at the dinner table is anything to go by.
But now, I want to zoom out those analytical lenses and take a second look at the phrase in its entirety:
As they say in Russian...
If the "they" that I've been talking about this whole time actually refers to all Russians, as a community, and in the most generalized meaning of the word, then, we might consider the idea that Doll, despite speaking their same language, may not view herself as a Russian, or it's trying to put some distance between herself and that group of people.
And if these are the cases, we could ask ourselves this:
Does Doll like the fact that other people think she's Russian? Or does she like speaking Russian at all, if Worker Drones are only capable of speaking one language only?
Maybe Doll doesn't like her own russian speaking voice, as it alienates her from the rest of her class, maybe all of her school, and, since we never see any other Russian speaking Worker Drones, maybe the entire colony (Khan's multiple languages manual is not a piece of counter evidence, because as far as the series shows us, all of the Russian speaking Worker Drones in that colony with the exception of Doll might have died before the pilot).
This little idea would also tie back to Uzi's own feelings of social alienation, helping Doll to better serve her purpose of dark mirror/foil to the protagonist.
Finally, let's look at the second line of Doll in this scene.
"Whoops, I should've predicted that someone could escape out of a ventilation shaft using discarded mirrors as stairs."
Despite this line being way longer than the last one, this portion of the segment is going to be far shorter, as there are far less things that I want to discuss.
"a ventilation shaft" is interesting, as it implies that Doll has multiple ventilation shafts inside her house, unless, of course, this is a phrase she took from someone else.
From what we know of the Patch, it seems capable of shielding the wearer from possession, but there's no evidence that it also stops the overheating problem, therefore, it's possible that Yeva installed multiple ventilation shafts inside her house to avoid this precise problem, or she might have done it as reference to how human trauma victims have respiration problems. (Shout-out to @dreamii-krybaby for reminding me of the overheating issue).
"discarded" is also a very interesting word, as it's pretty much in the same vein as "Russian": surprisingly vague when you inspect it further.
I looked up the meaning of its present form online, and its etymology is: get rid of (someone or something) as no longer useful or desirable/a thing rejected as no longer useful or desirable, which... it's a surprisingly in character word for Doll to say.
This is actually a VERY huge thing to me, as it makes me think that the writers could have putted a minimal amount of effort to make this line sound like something Doll would actually say, which runs counter to what my original assumptions when starting this analysis were.
Keep in mind: this word didn't have to be discarded, it could have easily been broken, or bloody, which still fit, but no, it's discarded. Where did Doll get all of those mirrors from? I don't know. Ultimately though, I don't think any of this leads to any interesting theory or idea.
Finally, let's repeat what we did with the "As they say in Russian..." phrase and let's take another zoomed out look at this entire line:
"Whoops, I should've predicted that someone could escape out of a ventilation shaft using discarded mirrors as stairs."
Now it may be a good time to ask the question Why is Doll saying both this and the previous line, as it doesn't seem to fit the context of "my next victim has just escaped from my grasp and this could lead to problems for me later on". This could just be Doll's way of expressing stress, but her facial expression is so hard to read, that I have absolutely no idea of what she could be thinking in this moment.
Now that I'm finally done squeezing the "reading between the lines" metaphor to it's absolute limit with this scene (I could have gone on for much longer, I could have talked about the possible meaning of the tent showing a toaster inside a bathtub or other things), it's finally time to go back to another question that has been going on in my mind lately:
Are this lines something that Doll would actually say?
Is this joke in character for Doll?
3: It's Doll... Right?
Do you remember how I previously implied that this joke line was out of character for Doll? Well, the truth is... that it really isn't.
I actually believe that this line makes perfect sense for the character that Doll has been built up to be... up to this point.
One of the things that analysing these lines made me notice is that every time Doll changes design she also feels like a completely different character then the one we were introduced with; I can definitely see the classic, cheerleader Doll that we saw in episode 2 and in the earlier parts of episode 3 saying these lines, but not Prom dress nor button eyed Doll.
All the times we saw the classic, quiet girl Doll she was presented as calm, unbothered, and collected, even if she was secretly a serial killer; that's the Doll I can envision saying this joke in such a situation.
Prom dress Doll by contrast is completely different, she's extremely emotional, very spiteful, deadly serious and has lost all of her cool.
Button eyed Doll is straight up the bottom of the barrel, she's completely lost it: she lacks both the coolness factor of classic Doll and the threat level of Prom dress Doll, she's so emotionally unstable and irrational that it's a miracle that she's to formulate any plans at all, then she dies once she's no longer needed for the story.
Keep in mind: all of these different characterizations make sense and are supposed to be different stages of a much more nuanced antagonist, it's just that... not all of the puzzle pieces are there. Everything adds up to one unique identity eventually, it's just that some of the steps are way too up to interpretation or are just omitted entirely.
4: is this joke actually funny?
You might think that this is an unnecessary talking point, and it is, but since we are already overanalyzing a joke line, we might as well see if the general public finds this to be an actually funny bit of comedy or if it had any lasting impact in the fanbase.
Since comedy is subjective and I'm a machine, I thought about doing a Google search to see what are the most common ingredients that make comedy hit, but then I remembered that the main reason why I went so unnecessarily in depth when breaking down the dialogue of this scene was because these lines, despite how unimportant and uninteresting they might be to me, are still undisputable pieces of Doll content present the show; looking up the comedy aspect of this dialogue and attempting to objectify it, something that would get me to be clowned on a lot by basically everyone despite how happy I would feel to show other people my mental instability, doesn't really give me any new informations about Doll's character aside from maybe seeing if she has some hidden comedic potential.
So instead, let's just see how other people view this line.
Fun fact: I started writing this post 6 days ago, and I was going to use only the comments under episode 3 of Murder Drones as evidence for the public opinions, but then Yagster, the poll guy on YouTube, made a poll to see what was the best line of episode 3 according to people, and as you can imagine, this joke was amongst the four options, and it's what was picked up as the best.
Anyway, here's some screenshotted comments:
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(Got these from various sources)
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Here's the positive ones.
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And here's the negative one. (I was sure there were more of these, but this is the only one I ended up finding)
From what I've seen, the fanbase has a mostly positive opinion of this dialogue, there was a sizable chunk of individuals quoting it in the comment section of episode 3, though it doesn't pop out as often as other great lines from the show, probably because of how long and overly specific it is.
I would have said that they have forgotten about it, but if you bring it back up to their faces they remember it immediately.
So there we go.
Closing thoughts.
I think this is it.
I didn't have to do this, nobody wanted me to do this, but now that I've done it, I feel an immense sense of closure, something that I've been needing for a while.
I feel like one of the major problems that I need to work on a lot is my priority list.
Originally, I started writing this post as a side project, something to push out to compensate for the amount of time I needed to complete other works of mine, but due to my maniacal need for perfectionism and short attention span, this "side project" ended up taking much more time than I wanted to, I feel like my ideal model for fast produced, high quality content just isn't viable for me, and I should really learn to focus on one task at a time.
Once again, this line is just a comedy bit, I doubt anybody ever expected it to be put through as much scrutiny as I've put it to, but if any of the ideas I came up with while writing this stimulated your creativity in any capacity, I'll be glad to have inspired you.
Good morning, afternoon, evening, night and day everyone.
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mayeeer · 5 months ago
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блин я такая пиздатая
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ilovespec · 4 months ago
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GOING TO THE STORE WITH ALL YANDERE!!! (besides demoness Yandere , she stayed at home to eat apples 😭)
Your girlfriends have been trying to persuade you to do this for a LONG time (or rather, Kristina and Bontà. And congratulations to you anonymous girl! you are the lucky owner of 4 GIRLFRIENDS at once!!!) And now . You , Squalo , Bontà , Agafya and Kristina went to the store... You walk calmly , and your 4 IMPENETRABLE WALLS follow you !!! Squalo with a cigar in her mouth, Bontà calmly looking around, Kristina scaring everyone with just her appearance (like Squalo) and Agafya who just walks with her hands in her pockets, and staring at nothing thinks about something. And after 20 minutes, you finally reached the store and went in there... As much as it was expected, but Bontà and Kristina immediately ran away to no one knows where, and Agafia and Squalo took a cart and put you there. From this view, some guy laughed, and a few seconds later he flew out of the store with a broken jaw (Squalo took care of ❤) And your 2 guard dogs (well, a guard megaladon and a guard polar bear are more suitable here.) took you, and went to look for the other your two girlfriends. And you found them. Bontà was fighting with Kristina , and they were arguing which was better
- Bontà : MEAT IS BETTER !!!!
- Kristina : FILL UP YOUR MOUTH AGGRESSIVE MEAT EATER !!!
As a result , when Agafya separated them both and gave them both a kick in the ass , for prevention. They finally calmed down and you continued to walk around the store. Squalo and Agafia IMMEDIATELY took your favorite sweets, which made you smile, and Cristina and Bontà frowned and envied that they did not make you smile. And when the older Yandere were distracted, Bontà and Cristina exchanged a sly glance.
- Kristina: Hey... Y/N, let's take you for a ride...??;)
- Bontà: Don't answer, we know what you want >:)
As a result: For the next 30 minutes Bontà and Kristina rolled you around the store in a cart, and Squalo and Agafya chased you all. Cursing the younger yandere (Kristina and Bontà). And yet, somehow you all got together , got to the cash register and SQUALO , FUCK , BUYS THE CART YOU 'RE SITTING IN !!! And all the way home you rode in a cart , and ate sweets <3
INTERESTING FACT !!! : Agafia is considered one of the older Yandere, because she is 8 months older than Bontà and Kristina 😎
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РУССКАЯ ВЕРСИЯ !!:
Твои девушки ДОЛГО уговаривали тебя сделать это (а если точнее Кристина и Bontà. И поздравляю тебя анонимная девушка ! , ты счастливая обладательница сразу 4 ДЕВУШЕК !!!) И теперь . Ты , Squalo , Bontà , Агафья и Кристина пошли в магазин ... Ты спокойно идешь , а за тобой идут твои 4 НЕПРОБИВАЕМЫЕ СТЕНЫ !!! Squalo с сигарой в зубах , Bontà спокойно глядящая по сторонам , Кристина пугающая всех только одним своим видом (как и Squalo) и Агафья которая просто идет с руками в карманах , и уставившись в никуда о чем то думает. И через 20 минут , вы наконец дошли до магазина и зашли туда... Как бы это не было ожидаемо , но Bontà и Кристина сразу убежали неизвестно куда , а Агафья и Squalo взяли тележку , и посадили тебя туда. От этого вида какой то парень заржал , и через несколько секунд уже вылетел из магазина со сломанной челюстью (Squalo позаботилась ❤) И твои 2 сторожевые собаки (ну здесь больше подходит скорее сторожевой мегаладон и сторожевой белый медведь.) повезли тебя , и пошли искать остальных двух девушек. И вы их нашли. Bontà дралась с Кристиной , и они спорили что же лучше
- Bontà : МЯСО ЛУЧШЕ !!!!
- Кристина : ЗАВАЛИ СВОЮ ВАРЕЖКУ АГРЕССИВНЫЙ МЯСОЕД !!!
В итоге , когда Агафья разняла их обоих и дала им обоим под зад , для профилактики. Они наконец успокоились и вы дальше пошли по магазину. Squalo и Агафья СРАЗУ ЖЕ взяли твои любимые вкусняшки , что заставило тебя улыбнуться , а Кристину и Bontà хмурится и завидовать что не они заставили тебя улыбнуться. И когда старшие яндере отвлеклись , Bontà и Кристина хитро переглянулись.
- Кристина: ээйй... Y/N, давай мы тебя прокатим ...??;)
- Bontà: Не отвечай , мы знаем что хочешь >:)
А итоге : Следующие 30 минут Bontà и Кристина кат��ли тебя по всему магазину в тележке , а Squalo и Агафья гнались за вами. Проклиная младших яндере (Кристина и Bontà). И все таки , кое как вы все собрались , добрались до кассы и SQUALO БЛЯТЬ ПОКУПАЕТ ТЕЛЕЖКУ В КОТОРОЙ ТЫ СИДИШЬ !!! И всю дорогу до дома ты ехала в тележке , и кушала вкусняшки <3
Интересный факт !!: Хоть Агафье и 30 лет , как Кристине и Bontà. Но она старше их на 8 месяцев , по этому она из "старших" яндере
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(Хештеги ваще имба)
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youwouldneverguess · 2 months ago
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Vampier?
да
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verbalisa · 3 months ago
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Софи спряталась. Она на кровати, полностью,с головой, укрыта одеялом, подушка лежит между ней и всей комнатой. Но она взрослая. Она знает, что одеяло не сможет её спасти.
Мама говорит, что если она взрослая, то должна знать, что монстров не существует и под её кроватью никого нет, но Софи слышит щелчки и дыхание, и она не глупая, что бы не говорили учителя, читать просто сложно, когда буквы разбегаются по странице, и рассказы всегда такие скучные, что она не может сосредоточиться.
Софи съёживается сильнее, потому что одеяло тяжёлое, мягкое и под ним невозможно дышать, и не скоро придётся приподнять край, чтобы выпустить немного воздуха. Она двигает руками медленно и тихо, стараясь не шуршать и не выдать себя громким паническим дыханием, потому что это не поможет, ей нужно экономить воздух.
Она приподнимает край, и щелчки сразу становятся оглушительными. Софи застывает, не в силах пошевелился от страха, её руки дрожат, и она знает, что вот-вот всхлипнет, и тогда монстр её найдёт.
Щелчки отдаются в её ушах... И она... Знает их? Она знает эту мелодию! Весь сегодняшний день она слушала её на повторе! Завороженная щелчками, она неосознанно начинает подпевать, и ничего не случается, только щелчки становятся громче. Софи смеётся от облегчения и свешивается с кровати.
- Привет? - говорит она. - Тебе тоже нравится эта песня? - густая темнота ворчит в ответ очень похоже на довольного кота. Щелчки продолжаются. Софи снова начинает петь.
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pinopinko · 1 year ago
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old house, new town
🏡💛
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maybeylic · 1 year ago
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ДА, Я БОЛЕН:
Большой
Огромный
Лавкрафтианский
Еба
Нат
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ruru124 · 1 year ago
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I want to post my pony hedgehogs because(⁠⌐⁠■⁠-⁠■⁠) да.
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cuntservant · 2 years ago
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Everyone knows about you! You're a hero!
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carrie-tate · 9 months ago
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Oooooh, yes, I speak Russian) It’s just that here you maintain an account in English, and I thought that either this is your language, or this is just the style of the account and I shouldn’t stand out))
Кхм, не парься об этом) наоборот весело, что могут быть посты, которые некотор��е не поймут без переводчика (это как говорить шифром, хехе)
Так что да, мне можно писать на русском, типа, вообще без проблем) Хотя основным языком все ещё остаётся английский
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unicaler · 2 months ago
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Ля какой у меня кирпич теперь есть
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aliptoza · 1 year ago
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МНЕ СКАЗАЛИ ДА
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estarioll · 2 years ago
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karadionova · 1 year ago
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"My oc-reflection of me"
In general, I saw a trend in tiktok, that's why yes
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