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bartholomaus · 4 years ago

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islanda topic

trupe de rock islandeze: dimma, katla, solstafir, kontinuum, krauka, skalmold, Næturdýrð, Ég brenn

Þorfinnur Kalrefni, Brennu Njáll is one Icelandic figure I like also, and Gunnar á Hlíðarenda

Check out Bárðar Saga

Tough question, I had to remember the name as I it's a long time since I read the book. He is Danish but was king of Iceland for a short time. Jörundur Hundadagakonungur.

I'd say Völsungarsaga, and of course hávamál and völuspá I've read several times.

[7:52 PM] Dómsdagur: Around 1500 my great great grandpa wrote a book called "Bjart er yfir Breiðafjörð" and it's his life story and older and it goes back to his great great great grandapa It's so cool reading the book

[7:53 PM] unknown: i would like to read it if i could know icelandic haha so cool for real very interesting

[7:54 PM] Dómsdagur: There is a chapter around 1800 where his father and grandpa are out in Látrabjarg getting eggs from birds and stuff and then there come french ppl and try to steal so they kill them all and then there come more french ppl and it's basically a 4 v 18 and they win all of them and then the French come and try to sue for the murder but like since they came illegally they couldn't do anything so the case was dropped it's really fun too read

[7:55 PM] unknown: no way hahahaha what an amazing story. I would buy 10/10 - take my money please

[7:55 PM] Dómsdagur: hahaha There is not much said about the battle other than before they started fighting 3 of them are arguing with the french while the fourth goes and destroyes their guns so they can actually fight and then the guns are destroyed and he gives them the signal to start fighting and his grandpa grabs the beard of one of the french and rips it all off from neck to nose thus killing him lmao

[7:57 PM] unknown: so hardcore I like this fighting the filthy invaders haha :valor: :mjolner:

[7:58 PM] Dómsdagur: Yeah it's realy fun 2 read the book I've read it three times now

[7:58 PM] unknown: well it's a fact that Icelanders 1-10 publish a book in their life but this one is so cool so cool to read what your ancestors did... they went to hunt and then they killed some french, cool asf and they say some info about your first ancestors that its documented? Like what he worked, stuff like this?

[8:01 PM] Dómsdagur: mmm, not sure really My whole father side was raised in the country land so idk

[8:02 PM] unknown: I remember a scene from an old Faroese documentary when a guy with a rope on the cliffs was taking the eggs from birds. So your story came like a glove with the images I saw haha you like to live on the country side or at city?

[8:04 PM] Dómsdagur: That's exactly how it was they were on the cliff tied the rope and go down and grab eggs from the bird s like we have a house in Laxárdalur 20 km from Búðardalur if you check the map and I reallly like it there but I also like being in the city I was raised like 70/30 city and country side

[8:06 PM] unknown: wow I also found Eiríksstaðir and his reconstructed house

[8:06 PM] Dómsdagur: And also not far from Búðardalur there is Hlíðarendi Where Gunnar á Hlíðarendi lived it's really cool visiting that place it's so nice

[8:07 PM] unknown: also the house you have in Laxárdalur is an old one? I saw just some ugly modernistic cabins that I dislike not a big fan of modernism so to say I like the old things

[8:08 PM] Dómsdagur: there are many houses there little towns many ppl live there

[8:08 PM] unknown: the view is great what's the best view you ever saw in iceland? from where?

[8:10 PM] Dómsdagur: Check out Reynisfjara

Týr The only god who dared to feed Fenrisúlfur

Grafarkirkja was built in 1680 otherwise there is Víðimýrakirkja built ca 1300

[1:29 PM] Dómsdagur: Bárðar saga, Brennu Njáls saga Grettis saga Those are the main ones You can check out http://sagamap.is It’s a really good website with all the books and a map So you can see the location of each event I use it for school and really reccommend it

ogfalkinn book

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[2:19 PM] Dómsdagur: If you really want to and have the ambition you could

It's a hunting trip for the whale "Grindhvalur" - grindadrap

[2:56 PM] Dómsdagur: Faroese language is probably the funniest language I've heard or read It's like listening to a autistic Icelandic person

[2:57 PM] Dómsdagur: If you haven't seen or heard it before you think they're mentally ill and first time reading faroese, you think to your self that you may have a concussion, forgot how to read or have dyslexia or smth Like How are you doing in icelandic Hvernig hefur þú það? In faroese Hvussu gengur tað? Hvussu = Hvernig = how Gengur = how something is going in that expression how are you doing like yeah it's retarded if you don't know it's faroese You think to yourself you think to go to a mental hospital

[2:51 PM] Dómsdagur: I can take out words but the sentence doesn't make sense for me It's like reading a retarded poem there is a secret meaning behind it

[2:52 PM] Dómsdagur: but The first one I understand Þykir mér ekki þess vert að deyja Vert is interesting so yeah ekki vert = not interesting or like it says doesn't mind

[2:38 PM] Dómsdagur: Also a old one and it came in the shows Vikings Það mælti mín Móðir old icelandic is Þat mælti min moðir I htink poem after Egil Skalla-Grímsson but it can be sung https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=

here is a calm version

[2:40 PM] unknown: I came across once on this song

[2:40 PM] Dómsdagur: I really like this one Since Egil Skalla-Grímsson is one of my favorite ones of the icelandic legends

[8:23 PM] unknown: Hello! Have you ever used islendingabok.is? I saw it on a site that you can trace your genealogy and stuff like this. Just asking, since you are an Icelander and you can use it haha

[8:24 PM] Dómsdagur: yeah we use it everytime we meet someone new I legit almost use it daily

[8:24 PM] unknown: I see, but did they trace your genealogy since a Clan or somethin

[8:24 PM] Dómsdagur: uhmm just dna rolling back I can see that Ketill Flatnefur who went with Hrafna flóki the founders of icealnd are my ancestors

Ahh yes, the mythical viking. Just a side note, the show Vikings is just awful.

Icelandic people emmigrated from Norway around the year 800–900, because Norway with its many kings and communities was at war and war is not cheap, so you had heavy taxes and war and killings. So they packed everything, and I mean everything, all sheep, cattle, cats and dogs, as no such animal was on Iceland back then, only fish and birds. They even took down their houses and barns.

Iceland is both a very giving country and then it takes everything you own and crushes it. Like a bully that gives you a piece of gum, and then sends you to the hospital because he beat the living daylights out of you.

Good summers are plentiful, so are harsh winters. Over the years Icelandic people had to break apart their ships so they would not freeze, and build and fix houses. There were most likely no big forests back then. So we became very isolated until around 1200, when the Norwegian king decided that all Norwegians should be under his rule, by then Norway had become one kingdom, no small feat. Then a big civil war broke out. Mainly two large factions, the Sturlas and people following Gissur Þorvaldsson (Thorvaldsson). No Icelandic person came out healthy after this, a lot of people died and suffered fate worse, missing hands and legs. A lot more work for fewer people. In the end, we surrendered to the Norwegian King.

Yes, Icelandic people were Vikings, meaning they were from northern Europe and they were mostly farmers, that’s all.

The Vikings depicted in all the stories and are claimed to have attacked Scotland and Ireland, even England were mostly Norwegians. There are a few stories of a handful of Icelandic people who joined such travels. This is all Norwegians. Swedes on the other hand in the Viking era, they built churches in other countries and as far as I know, never went raiding.

So. Are we the real vikings ? If you consider people who were stuck on a rock in the middle of the Atlantic ocean, working like dogs in the summer and freezing and starving in the winter, vikings, then yes, we are. If people who almost died out because of volcanic outburst when the whole island almost ripped in two and a huge volcano burst, in the middle of an extreme frost winter which killed more than half of the population, then again when the plague and other sicknesses came and visited which killed large portion of those who did not starve to death. Many summers where there was little to no harvest. If that makes us vikings, then yes, we are vikings.

We did find North America if that is a thing, there were people there who had found it before but did not tell anyone.

Vikings on TV and in reality share nothing, I am sorry to burst that bubble. People were very hard working, all the time, all days, every day, men, women, kids, no vacation, no mercy. These raids were not that many and were often done as a last resort to get land, money and crops, something that starving people do.

Real vikings are people who were covered in lice, were starving, dirt poor, taxed and required to join a battle just because the king was in a bad mood and freezing during winters, all in all, we were very similar to people living in Europe, just living on a rock that really wanted us dead.

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eldfjall · 8 years ago

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Escapade à Reykjavík #1

Il y a deux semaines, le samedi 24 juin, je me rendais pour la première fois dans le centre-ville de Reykjavík. Il faut un peu moins de vingt minutes en bus pour me rendre à Hlemmur, une sorte de point central où convergent toutes les lignes de bus de Reykjavík. À mesure que je me rapproche de la vieille ville, une grande excitation m’envahit. J’ai de bonnes chaussures, mon appareil photo est chargé à bloc, j’ai bûché les cartes des milliards de fois et lu tant de choses sur cette ville, maintenant il faut concrétiser.

Flânerie en bord de mer, Reykjavík me tend les bras

Arrivée à Hlemmur, je suis déjà perdue. Ceux qui me connaissent, moi et mon sens de l’orientation inexistant, ne seront pas étonnés par cette information. Etant donné que j’ai toute la journée devant moi, je décide d’aller où le vent me mène (littéralement, il y avait beaucoup de vent quand je suis descendue du bus). Je marche entre les immeubles modernes et gris, rien de transcendant jusqu’ici. Je sens une odeur de sel, et les mouettes se font de plus en plus nombreuses. Je tourne la tête à droite, et là, gros choc. Je n’arrive pas à transcrire ce que j’ai ressenti à ce moment précis, mais écoutez “Jungle” de Petit Biscuit, et vous aurez une assez bonne illustration.

Entre ciel et mer, l’île d’Engey se dresse devant moi, monumentale. D’un coup, je me sens si petite et si insignifiante. Le contraste entre la modernité de la grande route qui longe la côté et ce paysage majestueux est saisissant. C’est à la fois hypnotisant et effrayant. L’eau est tumultueuse dans la baie de Faxaflói, et les vagues d’eau froide viennent lécher les rochers sombrent qui séparent la pauvre humaine que je suis de l’infinité somptueuse de la mer. Le vent amène un air délicieusement rafraîchissant, et je sens tous mes petits tracas s’envoler vers les nuages lourds qui surplombent Reykjavík. Je marche lentement le long de Sæbraut, puis de Kalkofnsvegur, jusqu’au Harpa, la nouvelle salle de concert où se produisent des artistes de renommée mondiale (oui, la majorité des groupes font un crochet par l’Islande pendant leurs tournées, même Muse).

Petit point géographie : L’Islande est réputée pour être une île très inhospitalière. Son centre est composé de volcans et de glaciers, où les conditions de vie sont si rudes que nul ne s’y risquerait. Les villes et villages se situent sur les côtes, où il y a du vent, car l’air y est plus tempéré. De plus, de nombreuses petites îles bordent l’Islande, et la plupart d’entre elles sont trop petites pour être habitées. La petite dernière, Surtsey, est littéralement sortie de la mer en 1963, lors de l’éruption d’un volcan sous-marin (pour en savoir plus : http://whc.unesco.org/fr/list/1267).

Eh oui, les meilleurs hot-dogs sont en Islande

Ok, ça paie pas de mine comme ça, mais je vous promets que ça vaut le détour. Je ne sais pas comment ils font, mais c’est magnifique. La première fois que j’en ai mangé un en Islande, je me suis demandé si on essayait de se payer ma tête : Kristján, le père de famille, me l’avait tendu avec tellement de fierté, que j’ai cru qu’il y avait anguille sous roche. Ça coûte trois fois rien, c’est simplissime, et pourtant, beaucoup de magazines du monde entier s’accordent à dire que les Islandais font les meilleurs hot dogs. Le pain est moelleux et délicieux, pas trop salé, lééééégèrement sucré mais à peine. La sauce, c’est comme on veut et tout ce qu’il y a de plus normal (ketchup, mayo, moutarde, oignons, etc.), mais le secret réside dans la saucisse. Il s’agit de viande de mouton islandais (il n’y a pas d’élevage intensif ici), qui est un vrai délice. Encore une fois, les Islandais excellent dans la simplicité. De la viande bio (elle est toujours bio ici), locale et fraîche. Les Islandais sont très fiers de leurs hot dogs, qu’ils appellent pyslur, et ils peuvent l’être !

Le lac Tjörnin

Après avoir flâné le long de Lækjargata, j’arrive au lac Tjörnin. Oui, il y a un lac au beau milieu de la ville, et beaucoup de canards et autres oiseaux marins viennent s’y reposer. Ce jour-là, le soleil n’était pas au rendez-vous, mais j’y suis retournée, sans appareil photo, et on peut voir les couleurs du ciel se refléter dans l’eau. C’est sublime.

(Le lac Tjörnin quand le ciel est dégagé. Source : reykjavik.com)

L’hiver, lorsque la surface du lac est gelé, on peut y voir les aurores boréales se refléter. On peut aussi y faire du patin à glace ! Promis, j’irai.

Hallgrímskirkja, la Magnifique

(Les deux photos sont de moi. Seulement, la deuxième fois j’ai eu plus de chance avec la météo !)

Cette église luthérienne tient son nom du pasteur et poète Hallgrímur Pétursson (XVIIème siècle), auteur de célèbres cantiques d’Islande. Immense, cet édifice de béton mesure 74,5m de haut, soit près du double des tours de Notre Dame. Les colonnes de part et d’autre du clocher rappellent la régularité des colonnes basaltiques issues des coulées de lave. L’architecte, Guðjón Samúelsson, a créé un édifice unique et typiquement islandais, et nous prouve encore une fois que la nature dans toute sa majesté est omniprésente dans la culture islandaise.

(Source : http://pixcooler.com/leif+erikson+statue)

Devant l’église luthérienne se dresse la statue du Viking Leif Eríkson, le premier européen à fouler le sol américain.

Petit point Histoire : Pendant l’ère Viking (fin du Xème siècle), alors que l’Islande était une colonie norvégienne, ceux qui étaient bannis prenaient la mer vers l’Ouest, à la recherche de nouvelles terres. Or, les terres qui se trouvent à l’Ouest de l’Islande sont le Groenland, le Canada et les futurs Etats-Unis. Eiríkr Þorvaldsson, dit Erik le Rouge, est le premier à poser le pied au Groenland. Par la suite, son fils Leif Eríkson, navigue vers le Sud-Ouest à la conquête de nouvelles terres. Il atterrit dans ce qui sera plus tard le Canada (on pense vers Terre Neuve). Dans les années qui suivirent, un couple d’exilés, Þorfinnur Þórðarson et Guðríður Þorbjarnardóttir, poursuivirent la route de Leif et mirent pied dans ce qu’ils appelleront le Vínland, qui se situerait aux alentours de l’actuelle New York. Les sagas racontent que les colons entretenaient d’abord des relations pacifiques avec les Natifs. Puis, alors que les querelles se firent de plus en plus nombreuses, on perdit trace des colons norvégiens/islandais dans ces terres. Les historiens ont longtemps douté de la véracité de ces informations, mais des vestiges de bâtiments Vikings ont été retrouvée dans l’Anse au Meadows, au nord de Terre Neuve. Les Vikings ont bel et bien été les premiers à poser le pied en Amérique, mais il n’y sont pas restés pour coloniser.

#iceland #islande #reykjavik #bord de mer #pylsur #hot dog #Tjörnin #hallgrimskirkja

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