#{ASK MEME}「Step It Up」
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Still thinking about none houses left grief, and while I understand where people are coming from, "it took me out of the world" is just... Really not a relevant criticism here. Like, that line is SUPPOSED to be jarring. It is supposed to be kind of darkly funny, but the point isnt for you to laugh. Its not trying to be a punchline. The point of that line IS to "take you out of the world" because the point is that *this world isn't what you thought it was.*
#if it startled you that something so irreverant and lowbrow would come up in a high fantasy serious world#...then maybe ask yourself if this is really a serious high fantasy world#also i do think its just elitist that everyone complains about the tumblr references and not the word for word bible quotes#like maybe the author was trying to make a point about why you accept that catholicism is a cultural constant but not memes?#maybe take a step back and ask yourself what kind of cultural artifacts you think are important enough to be worth mentioning#tlt#htn#the locked tomb#harrow the ninth#tlt spoilers
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#using 'them' because obviously not all transfem folks (myself included) use she & her#add this one to one of my more super hot takes even if it's true#stop canceling trans women over stuff you absolutely get it up for#also making this because of recent events & no I won't elaborate even if you ask me to#and no I won't debate the ethics of adults playing pretend with you as that's silly; a waste of my time#and is also just not what this post is about; you'd think that'd be obvious but watch people not care anyway#feel free to send asks though It's up to me whether or not I want to answer them#this double standard is never done in good faith & is most assuredly transphobia 100%#marking this post as all of the things because I know the people on this site can't behave; I've seen it before#yes you should reblog this btw; this also happens on twitter & reddit I'm sure though I have no twitter#mine#op#fauxcest#sibcon#step mom#siscon#brocon#sibcest#trans memes#transgender memes#cw adult things#cw adult stuff#tagging all of these just to be safe
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Hello love how are you?
I miss the actors au, so i have a promt for you if thats okay.
Thena and Gil are casted in an action/romance movie where their characters have a lot of tension and have to flirt a lot, so their tension in real life gets real high and they kinda start flitring with the other but they are just "friends".
As always thank you for your works 🩷🤍
"You ready?" he asked her, his weapon in hand.
She gave him a look over her shoulder, raising a finely plucked eyebrow. "Are you going to ask me that every time?"
He gave her look right back to her, though, both of them grinning at the exchange. "Well, I believe in words of assurance. Doesn't that help set the mood or something?"
She tested the doorknob, preparing to charge in with him. "Are you asking me as your partner or as a woman?"
He pressed his back to the wall with her. He wasn't nearly as entertained by it as she was. "I'm asking if you're sure about this."
She was surprised by his sudden hesitance. "You think we aren't there yet?"
"I mean dinner is one thing, but taking down this whole compound just us?"
"I knew you had commitment issues."
"You think everyone has commitment issues."
She rolled her eyes at him. "If you can't do this, then fine, I'll take care of it myself-"
He stopped her from going in alone, his hand holding hers back. He moved closer, even, his arm around her and his face nose to nose with hers. "You'll never have to take care of anything alone so long as I'm here. Whether you think we're there or not."
The clip faded out and the audience applauded obligingly. Some was politely directed by the teleprompters and some was genuine enthusiasm. The movie did seem fun and light, with well paced action, based on the snippet presented.
Gil and Thena laughed at the scene chosen, as if they hadn't already seen it countless times during their press tour.
"That was a clip from your latest--I'm already excited," the host of the show exclaimed, leaning back in her chair. "I feel like we haven't seen you guys take on anything this light in a while."
Gil and Thena shared a look. It was always funny for them to do press and receive notes on how their careers were going. Whether they were working on something together or apart, they were spending almost all their time together anyway.
"Well, Thena had her more serious biopic, which swept awards season," Gilgamesh began, openly inviting the audience to shower her with adulation. He clapped as well, chuckling as she ducked her head and played with her hair in a moment of shyness.
"You see why I can't do press with him all the time? I can't take it," she laughed in good nature, spreading her time between the host and the audience. "He's too much."
"It's so sweet how close you are, though," the host beamed, dancing the line between innocent commentary and probing at something more. "I feel like it's not always the case."
"We are lucky," Thena agreed, looking at Gil again with a full smile. Her makeup done for the show made her seem to glow under the lights, from the blush in her cheeks to the colour on her lips. "I can't imagine how insufferable it would be if I didn't like him."
"Well, it'd be pretty hard, if that clip was anything to go by!"
She was somewhat luring them into something--saying something, admitting something.
"Is it hard to get into a character like the ones in this film, or do you find it easier because you already get along so well?"
Thena met the eyes of their host. She was good at her job; the audience was ooh-ing and ah-ing at all the right times. She kept her smile even, though, resting her cheek in her hand. "Well, movies like this one often focus more on the action and the humour than the characters. But we're lucky our writers actually have quite a fun story buried within the scenes."
"It was nice to be able to really play around with the characters and how they interacted and that would, in turn, influence how we played a scene or how we would allude to something that would come into play further down the line," Gilgamesh answered. It was a very practised, media coach approved answer. It really didn't say all that much, but it sounded like he was saying a lot.
"Now, just tell me," the hostess got a devious smirk on her face. "Are you flirting like that the whole movie?"
Thena resisted the urge to roll her eyes, much like her character for the summer blockbuster. "Would you call that flirting?"
Gil laughed beside her, their eyes drawn together and away from the third party on stage with them. "I think that's just how they talk to each other."
"It's natural for them," Thena joined in his laughter. "They get up, go to work, see each other in the elevator-"
"She says 'fuck you', he says 'how hard'?" Gilgamesh joked, which had both he and Thena laughing, as well as the audience in stitches. He made a sheepish face to the camera, "sorry, sorry, forgot you'll have to bleep that."
Thena shrugged one shoulder, "it's not rated R, we can have one truly good profanity."
"Yeah, and you got it," he pointed out, recalling the exact scene in which her character gets the privilege of saying the coveted once-per-movie-F-bomb. "It's a big one, too."
She gave him a look before purring, "not as big as you, baby."
The audience laughed again. Gil and Thena both leaned in their seats, losing themselves in the mirth of it all. The hostess was banging on the table.
She wiped a tear from her eye, picking up her coffee mug only to tip it upside down. "It's okay, there's no coffee in here."
The audience continued to laugh.
"How did you even get any work done like this?"
"Is it really work if you do what you love?" Gilgamesh chuckled, trying to calm his laughter and appear at least somewhat professional. He tugged at the lapel of his suit jacket, although he didn't button it closed. He looked at Thena again. "Wouldn't you agree?"
She made a face; Sprite got her mischievous side from Thena, but neither would ever admit it. "I think they do each other all the time, yes."
The audience roared with laughter again. Thena attempted to hide her completely open laughter with a hand in front of her mouth. Under the cover of it, she whispered to him, "sorry, but that one was too good to pass up."
"Takes one to know one," he whispered back to her.
"Okay, okay, okay," the hostess held her hand up, signalling the audience to cool it and drawing her guests' attentions back to her. "Cool it, kids--leave some room for jesus, 'kay?"
Thena and Gil both chuckled, but they had indeed gravitated closer and closer through the course of their banter. Their thighs were touching.
"Thena," the two women traded grins and raised eyebrows. "First, I have to know where you get your eyebrows done, because you're putting me to shame."
She was funny, Thena conceded. She liked her delivery and her genuine charisma. "It's all my stylist team, I assure you."
"Second," she held up a finger. "Did you write your own dialogue for this movie or what?--you're killin' me, here. You know how hard it is to get your own network show? I'm supposed to be the funny one."
The audience applauded again, the energy in the room still high.
Gil joined in. "She's always been funny--I keep telling people."
"No one believes you," she shook her head at him. They were ignoring their host again and getting lost in the fun of trading little jokes. She toyed with some of her hair, winding it around her finger.
He shook his head, capturing the lock of hair for himself. "That's what happens when you're pretty and talented, people think the rest of your resume is fake."
"Is there anything you can't do?" the host asked, partly for the info and partly so as not to let her own show get away from her again.
"Plenty," Thena looked back at her again, although it had to be said that Gilgamesh was still toying with her hair. "Cooking is top of the list."
"That's okay," the host jumped on the opportunity to bring up more inside info. "I hear he's a master chef all his own."
"It's true."
"It is not."
"It most certainly is," Thena cut him off, tipping her head in his direction again. He tossed her hair over her shoulder but she didn't let it distract her. "He's an amazing home cook."
The host pouted, leaning her chin into her palm with her elbow on top of her desk. "I'm jealous."
Thena nodded at her. "We had a break during filming, while we were changing location and our crew was doing the real heavy lifting work. And the day we were back on set, Gilgamesh brought everyone a little bundle of cookies he had made."
"For everyone?!"
Thena nodded again, confirming the other woman's shock. "He baked at least three hundred cookies so he could give them to everyone in the cast and crew. They were in cute little bundles, tied with ribbon and everything."
"Okay," Gil huffed, blushing modestly.
"Look," Thena pointed at the screen, where the showrunners were pulling up a picture taken and posted on social media. "Isn't it cute?"
The hostess dropped her jaw in the audiences direction. They were being well fed this segment. "Okay, I didn't think there was anything you couldn't do, but now it's him too?!"
Thena raised both her brows at him and crossed her arms with a smirk. "No, there is absolutely nothing he cannot do."
He rolled his eyes, still playing up his bashfulness. He raised his arm up onto the back of the couch, somewhat around Thena's shoulders. His fingers toyed with the fluttery sleeve of her dress. "Except get you to stop, apparently."
"Okay," the hostess tapped the desk, signalling the closing of their time. She turned to the frontmost camera while the other two turned to cover her other angles. "We are gonna take a quick break, and when we come back, the lovebirds here will have some insider info on release dates and we'll even have some questions from our viewers!"
The cameras pulled out and the band played until sound was done rolling. Gil and Thena waved to the audience, as well as the 'audience' at home through the cameras.
"That was amazing, you guys are nailing it," their hostess addressed them openly as her team came scurrying in to retouch her hair and makeup in their brief commercial spot. "Keep up the fun, flirty vibes when we come back, okay?"
Gil and Thena looked at each other. The hostess was further engulfed in assistants and scrip producers and coffee gophers swarming her for their brief five minute window to do their jobs.
"Flirting?" Thena voiced aloud, to which Gil also shrugged. "I wouldn't call it that."
"No," he scoffed in agreement with her. "We're just making friendly conversation. And you're totally killing the audience--just admit you're funny."
She scoffed at him this time, her arms still crossed, him still playing with the sleeve of her dress. "I admit nothing. If anything, you are bringing it out in me. And she's quite humorous."
Gil just chuckled, adjusting himself to fully sit sideways on the couch, since this was the position he would be in for the rest of the interview anyway. He abandoned the dress sleeve and found her stray curl of blonde to play with again. "You're funnier."
And they said they weren't flirting.
#Thenamesh Actors AU#an oldie but a goodie!!!#thank you so much for the ask my dear I hope you like it!#I wanted the vibes to be immaculate#Thena is well trained on how to seem fun and personable#and she and Gil definitely got into character for these roles#ie flirting and making dirty jokes nonstop#the hostess is like guys please this is my show eyes up here#it's giving Kathryn Hahn hosting for Jimmy Kimmel Live#anyway the interview continues#they've received questions from viewers through instagram and such#Gil and Thena answer the questions professionally#for the most part#but everyone online is just like is this publicity or a relationship announcement video???#there are memes online within minutes#'they look like a youtube couple announcing their pregnancy'#'this is how your parents look when they tell you they're going on vacation without you'#'like what are they even that close for???'#Sprite sees all of it and likes every comment like that#much to Thena's distress#and of course the movie PR is just like okay great free advertising for us#they knew their leads#they knew they already had insane chemistry on and off screen#and Gil and Thena got to film in a beautiful vacation spot all summer everyone wins#except for Sprite who stepped foot into the sun for ten minutes and got baked like a lobster
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18 or 36 + lampwick?
HIIIIIIIIII!!! First off: i'm so SO sorry for how late this one is I've been ruminating on it for the while DFCDSTJBHKDCTRL BUT!!!! I'M HERE AND PRESENTING THE RESULT FOR IT!!
spotify wrapped game: send me a number from 1-100, optionally with a ship or character, for a moodboard based on the song it corresponds to!
36. Make it All Right - The Offspring
#the outcasts#ask meme#lizardthelizard#lampwickcore#This one was a BIT of a challenge#Cause while I had the option to use something different this one was the one that works for Wick the most#The only problem was was that this was permanently locked as a song for the whole of the outcasts JHKGDHSRT (thus the one image on the top)#But it's FUN to think about it with just him#The confidence of the song with his general personality just works so bloody well!!!#He's a cocky bastard that's stubborn and will act annoying just to spite you#But come what may if you stop seeing the sunrise every morning he'll up and try and find a bit of light to replace it instead#Even if he does it in his own little way#Cause while he has his own troubles he is there and ready to lift his man's spirits when it's needed#Damn his thoughts and opinions are on what Pinocchio may believe in!!#The moment Pinocchio loses hope Wick can and will step in and replace it with his own#He's a fool but he's especially a fool for the ones he does care about#And in the longrun he's gonna make sure they're gonna make it through and are alright#idk how well the moodboard reflects this tbh now that I'm looking at it again I'm still trying to figure them out but JHBDSKURUILI YEAH!!!#anyhow again I'm so SORRY for how ridiculously late this is BUT I'm holding it out now to youuuu <333#Love you and talk laterrrrr
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💈 Have they ever worn a sex toy in public before? Would they like to, or prefer to make someone else wear one?
💃 Would they ever give a partner a lap dance? Would they ask for one?
📅 Would they ever be able to complete a No Nut November?
🚲 Are they picky about who they sleep with, or a town bicycle (everyone gets a ride)?
🤐 Do they have any kinks that are eternally a secret? What’s stopping them from being open about it?
💈- Rebecca has worn things like vibrating panties before, but she enjoys being in control of her partners pleasure (this changes as she gets older and in a committed relationship, though she indulges in it occasionally)
💃- abso-fruitly she would give her partner one. She likes being able to set a tone and pace. I don't think she'd like being on the receiving end
📅 - NO! THIS WOMAN IS HORNY!
🚲 - she definitely dates around, but it takes at least three dates before she'll have sex with someone
🤐 - autagonistophilia (being on stage or on camera) As a public figure and rising celebrity, this is a no go. She does enjoy taking nudes but she only sends them after they pass her 10 step trust program
#rebecca prince#ask meme#kink meme#heres the ten step program btdubs#1) do you know their family?#2) do you know their friends?#3) do you TRUST said friends and family?#4) do they have a history of things like this?#5) have they sent any?#6) have they asked?#7) are they pushy about it?#8) do i have access to their phone?#9) what do i think they would do after?#10) will they use this against me if we break up?#was also gonna add a biting kink but then i was like she wouldnt hide that
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ㅤㅤoddly specific Ody icons I have
#;o.dysseus#MASTER ON THEIR KNEES SCREAMING CRYING THROWING UP OVER not getting the servant they wanted out of the summoning#and o.dy like the meme of woody from toy story stepping in#(me: hold u p. ✋ Let him c o o k.)#and he pulls out from his d.avid h.asselhoff b.oobs I mean pecs none other than a..... summoning ticket..!!!!#JAW DROPPING PLOT TWIST MOMENT!!!!#u cant help but ask yourself... how....... how did he do it!?!?!?#but he nods with a smile and gives you the ticket while resting his hand on ur shoulder 'Do not worry master. Now go; summon your titan.'#ISANNEEEEEEEE#this is the kind of crazy ahh situations that happen in c.haldea- truly surreal.....#for context to my mutuals that dont know about f.go--- there is no context#NO JKJKJK!!! WAIT! the thing is that o.dysseus's design has a b.oob window on his mecha suit (crazy)#and he's pulling out useful stuff from his massive boongaloongas
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I agree, 🐹
ok yeah let's get back to hamster chat, everyone put me in your pocket i am SENSITIVE and i need a NAP 💚💚💚
#linds i think you would be a hamster also if you weren't so clever and beautiful so you are one step up u-u#friends being friends#ask meme
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Thinking abt how tdhmt has like everything anyone could ask for. Vampires, mind threesomes, rimming, pits, scenting, breeding, cum swapping like damn you’re feeding us well
lkdhdgsjdhs thank you, i aim to please 😏 well other than the piss thing..... but they had to get a little weird with it lmao
#i'm gonna have to step it up somehow in these last few chapters 🤔#i do have Something planned but that's for the grand finale#the tag list on that thang is turning into one of those meme screenshots at this point 💀#anon#asks
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Best of luck with your sunday pulls!! Excited for that sunday fic too— 20k words??? :O I'm still in the trenches with mine, no way am I finished with that one any time soon. Passing my luck onto you! :)
Thank you!! If it goes well, I shall tribute my fortune to you. I'm so in love that I pushed every banner aside just to save up for him. I really wanted to get Robin but I'm sorry, I have priorities to think about. I never get characters lightcones but I will for Sunday. I adore him.
I hope you like the fic! It's different from my usual ones since I treat Sunday the same as Dottore, therefore I get possessed by every lit-history major in existence and spit out something with too much symbolism. But this one is actually an offering for Sunday to bring his ass home. I'm not even exaggerating, I am physically handing Sunday the wish ticket. It's also not actually gonna be 20k words, I would never finish on time, but the entirety of it is 20k (just split into 4 separate sections).
👁️ 👁️ how's that monthly check in going? December has hit, it's time for another don't you think?
#verridaiya#totally understand the trenches my god i thought i was dying#what do you mean 2.7 is today-#but tyty for the well wishes#and reading my tags??? like jeez im gonna blush#on a reblog too??? sunday step aside i have someone new to look up to#you know that artist meme where it goes something like “my friends are making fun of me but im an artist so i can draw them pregnant”#i have sunday at gun point rn#if you don't come home#wow am i gonna make you sad#i don't write angst but we can change that real quick#super duper big mwah#lovely person#ask
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if you lean into or join in with misogynist jokes and threats as a trans man or transmasc because you pass as cisgender or are "man enough" to the person/people who are talking that way you are a traitor to the trans demographic as a whole. if you're scared of being outed and assaulted due to standing up for those affected by misogyny, sex or gender based, then don't say anything. keep your mouth shut. make it clear you're uncomfortable or glare at them or roll your eyes but if you can call it out, do it. do anything besides giving into misogynistic behavior under a misguided attempt at acceptance. if those men making the jokes and threats knew you were AFAB and/or you had any stereotypically "physically feminine" traits (long hair, breasts, makeup, etc) they would target you the same as they would anyone else they deemed acceptable.
there's nuance here, obviously, but the cis men making cruel and misogynistic threats and "jokes" will not see you as a man if you're outed. you are not allying yourself with people who will protect you. you are allying yourself with people who would hurt you if you were alone and they/he was fairly sure they/he could get away with it, and even then sometimes you don't need to be alone and it'll happen anyway. people will look the other way. the legal system protects rapists. law enforcement protects rapists. the other cis men will protect rapists. ask me how i know.
don't become someone who protects that behavior. believe that you're better than them, because you are, and put that treatment beneath you. is what they have to offer really worth whatever acceptance you may see in their eyes? why do you want their acceptance and approval at all?
#long post#long tags#obviously this isn't say ''all men'' jfc but if you actually have life experience cis men especially white#or cishet are extremely entitled and should be assumed to be a danger. don't be naive. it is not your fault but you must take steps to#protect yourself from men who are misogynistic and you must learn to recognize the signs#because they're not always overt. trust your gut#the ''cishet white man'' thing became a massive meme and joked about constantly but it comes from a genuine terror.#you don't want to be like them. no brief ''gender euphoria'' or feeling of masculinity is worth#furthering such an extremely pervasive and dangerous ideology. terfs aid and abet this and they're not all women.#to ''be a man'' in presentation is to stand up for yourself and others and use the privilege/authority/whatever you want to call it#you have for good and not to prop up would be rapists at best and real rapists and murderers at worst.#i know that sounds overwhelmingly doom and gloom but please read how many articles there are on#the rape murder impregnation and brutalization that misogyny affected people experience#trans women are abused and stats on their abuse are skewed because the legal system doesn't care about them.#i could go on for so much longer but these tags are already so long#transmisogyny cw#lgbt issues#transphobia#lgbt#assault cw#sa tw#ask to tag
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"So. We're gonna need to have a talk about a fun little goddess with a portfolio of spiders and chaos by the name of Lolth...."
four bingos is CRAZY ))
#( alluringlittledeath. )#( i should speak up ): asks#( another step forward ): ic#( bingo meme. )#not trying to be better 💀 ))#he'd make amalica worse i just know it ))#LMAO ))
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T’Pring Memes
#T'Pring is everything to me#SNW is the T'Pring show to me sorry about it v_v#Honestly T'Pring could blow up a planet and I'd be like 'she had her reasons i'm sure...let's hear the full story...'#Me @ T'Pring whenever she talks to Spock: ey is dis guy botherin you????#spock has ENOUGH stans....it is time for the T'Pring Girlies to emerge.....#snw please give me more T'Pring content so I can start writing T'Pring fic pleaaaaase thank you#also more uhura content I love her. T'Pring & Uhura are my faves so far <3 and my third favorite is Ortega#we don't know much about her yet but I'm digging the vibe. Tom Paris WISHES he were her LITERALLY.#ummmm idk any of the men on that show. M'Benga <3 aaaaand..............................pine tree..........kirk with a cartoon disguise#........the other vulcan thats not T'Pring............./j#If they ever make T'Pring into The Bad Guy with Spock I'm gonna become soooooo UNreasonable<3#T'Pring#SNW#also I don't hate chapel but she seems like she'd pour a glass of wine - give it to someone else and then drink from the bottle#as like a goof and that's her vibe so far#which v_v fine......if that's what you're into Spock. Her Quirky White Girl Swag#T'Pring is not a girlboss and she would never step on me nor would I ask her to - she's ju st trying her best!!!!!! she REALLY IS!! -crying-#I've been thinking of her since I saw that art this morning ....v_v#star trek memes#snw memes
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For the WIP game!
Robe
how is there only a SINGLE instance of this word across every single one of my drafts, and it’s one that’s no longer a WIP?
from the jury duty AU
#seriously i need to step up my game#it’s like. don’t i remember saskia opening her door in a gapping kimono? or elizabeth’s bedchamber scene?#the disrespect#WIP keyword ask meme#anonymous
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Not gonna lie Frank is looking mighty dad shaped at the moment like I know Peter would not allow Frank to be his uncle because that title belongs only to Ben but rereading the kintsugi the part which Frank tells Peter to call him Pete and Peter thinking people will make assumptions of Frank being his father got to me.
Frank is absolutely becoming an important figure in peters life. I think I would respectfully disagree with any like, genuine attempts to analogue him with peters father though.
Spoilers for punisher seasons 1 + 2 below.
As a like, disclaimer, I’m soooo aware that being a dad is more of a meme in fandom than genuine attempts to say someone is the functional father of someone, but also it does crop up in genuine contexts too, and I don’t know if you mean in more of the general like, vibes sense or in a more literal “Frank is becoming his father as an actual relationship development” kind of way. I built my brand on taking things way too seriously however, so I’m gonna like, delve into this as if it were.
Frank is the most stable adult influence in Peter’s life right now, and I’m going to somewhat include May in that. That’s not because May is somehow failing to be a stable adult for Peter, but more because Peter has purposefully cut her out from access to parts of his life in a misguided attempt to protect the last family he has left to him. And that’s a decision that has pretty severe consequences for Peter’s mental health.
The decision to sort of phase May out of full involvement in Peter’s life predated Spider-Man; however, Spider-Man turned this from a sort of gradual decrease of information he shared to an extremely abrupt stop. We know that, for whatever reason, Peter did not tell May or Ben when he first got his powers. If it was physically painful or even just noticeable, he did not tell them about the probable medical emergency, but even if we just assume he went to bed normal and woke up with abs, he did not walk into the kitchen the next morning and announce he could stick to walls now. Ideally speaking, kids should be going to their parents about that kind of shit. Peter didn’t. So we know something’s just not exactly right with Peter’s relationship with May and Ben.
Usually, that’d be a bit of a red flag with abuse. Frank actually had a moment where he suspected as much, and Peter flipped his shit on him, so he knows it's not that. But whatever the cause, Peter's been without an adult influence to rely on for a while.
And, psychologically speaking, that's fucked him up pretty thoroughly. Peter's been taking on stresses that are way worse than most adults ever face, and he's been doing it without having the support that kids really need. That's compounded by the fact that he's still reeling from one of the biggest pillars of support in his life, Ben, just got ripped out entirely.
Frank's relationship with peter has developed on an incredibly quick timeline because he's been able to occupy that empty space that parents usually are meant to be in. In that respect, he's acting in a lot of the ways a dad is supposed to, by being that sort of adult figure Peter can go to as a reliable source of support. Peters finally buckling under the pressure now that he finally has someone who can help take some of it off of him, which quickens the development of their relationship.
But at the end of the day, that does not change the fact that it’s only been two weeks. Peter hated him for the first week of it. They’re very much in the infancy of their relationship, so like, genuine fatherhood is a good long way off.
I’m a big believer in the fact that there’s no substitute for time in relationship develop. That’s not to say that relationships can’t develop on different timelines, but there’s a very practical reality that figuring out the boundaries and dynamic of a relationship is something that develops over multiple interactions and needs time to do. Peter and Frank are still at the stage where Peter’s struggling to figure out if he can ethically have Frank in his life and Frank is struggling to figure out how to be in Peter’s life when his objective goal is still to get peter to stop being spider-man. They need a lot of time still to figure out who they are to each other.
The other thing about time in a relationship is that it’s really going to be the thing to build trust. Trust isn’t exclusively built by time, but it’s still important. Frank and Peter have started to build some trust between them, but it’s still young. Frank, specifically, only got peter to start to trust him when he helped out with the Calloways. Peter only started building trust that same night when Frank started to understand why Peter did what he did.
When you’re in someone’s life, especially to the degree that a father and son would be, then you’re going to get into conflict with them. You’re going to disagree, fight, cross boundaries. Or you’re going to need to be vulnerable to someone, and you have to decide if they’re a safe person to do so with.
Time where you can build up a consistent basis of trust and understanding is what helps you weather that. There’s going to be fuck ups. That’s part of being human. If you have spent a long time developing a relationship, people are going to have a better time grappling with those fuck ups, figuring out how to navigate it, and then moving towards forgiveness. If you really trust someone, then there’s more stability and reliability to fall back on when they do something that hurts you. If you haven’t had that time? Then it risks destroying the relationship entirely.
We’re still seeing that develop with Frank and Peter. We have yet to see if they can even last, let alone make it to father/son.
I don't want to say that I have compunctions with how fandom treats relationships, because that is suggestive of like, a higher degree of dislike than I actually have. It's just not my style. A lot of fanfiction or fanon has people going from 0 to 100 really really fast. You go from just having met to being the most important and trusted people in each other's lives in a few days. You're madly in love in the span of a few interactions. Characters hand out trust that isn't really earned yet and act more comfortably with people than they objectively should. With Peter especially, you have him like, calling people 'Dad' or being like, really comfortable accepting physical affection from them almost immediately or he's like, really quick to seek comfort and support from whatever adult is around. It just all happens on a weirdly fast timeline.
And I want to be clear--there's nothing wrong with liking to write that or read that. It's fanfiction. We're all doing this shit for free, and sometimes you want to get to the found family part everyone's showed up for without trudging through 100k words of boundary negotiations and relationship development.
It's just not how i like to write? I'm a slow burn person. I need a bunch of build up or i'm not satisfied in the pay off. toy rosaries is 45k words and counting because i wanted to write one fucking scene. i'm holding myself hostage. I could not bring myself to write frank and peter as father/son on this timeline even if i wanted to.
They also have the added hurdle of their own trauma around parents and children.
With Frank, it's pretty obvious--he loves kids, it's undeniable. He was great with Zach and Leo, would die for Amy, and even had a cute moment with Rex in the diner. He gets attached to his kids, acts parental with them, and would straight up die for them. Peter's well in that same territory now.
I think we still have to ask if he would be able to be an explicit father/son relationship given his lasting trauma around his own kids.
It could go either way, honestly--it would depend on how someone wanted to take their relationship development. The thing is, Frank wants to be a dad--but he wants to be his kids' dad. The debilitating loss he feels from his children's death is absolutely central to his character--and it's pretty clear he's not even close to getting over it. First off, he's living like a fucking goblin in the seedy underbelly of new york. that's not an emotionally healthy decision. But secondly, he's established time and time again that he's not ready to really heal from his family's death. He picked the Punisher over going with his family when he went up against Agent Orange. Season 2 opens with Frank's revenge complete, experiencing that great, peaceful family dynamic with Beth and Rex--and then he's killing a room full of people by the end of the episode. Undeniably, he loved Amy--but he still sends her off to live in Florida with someone else. He could have gone with her. He had finished his newest war entirely. There wasn't any immediate danger of staying with her. He could have asked her if she'd like to set up shop somewhere new, with him, new names, new pasts, new lives, as father/daughter. Instead, he ships her off and fully becomes the Punisher.
The Punisher is a part of Frank, and it's not exclusively a product of what happened to his family. But it's impossible to remove his grief from who the Punisher is. Being a dad means putting the kid first, picking the kid first, and it's not really clear what would win if it really came down to being a stable influence for Peter and giving up his war or staying with his mantle.
It's particularly difficult when you consider the parallels between Peter and his son. Frank didn't really have regrets around Lisa, save that she died and that he did not read the book to her the night before. He didn't visibly regret the state of his relationship with her when she passed--in fact, most of how he talks about her suggests their bond was incredibly close.
His son, though, is almost exclusively shown in canon to be in conflict with Frank, and it's something that Frank displays visible regret over. He seems to constantly wish he could have been a better father to Frank Jr.
Peter, like Frank Jr, spends a lot of time in conflict with Frank. They don't see eye to eye. They bump heads. Peter disobeys him every chance he gets. And Frank's really, really trying not to repeat old mistakes, but it still begs the question whether he could bring himself to be the kind of father to Peter that he never could be to Frank Jr. How would that feel? Would it feel like a betrayal of Frankie? Would he be haunted by the fact that he couldn't be like this with his own son? It'd be a long, painful road to figure that out.
Is it possible that Frank could be someone's father again? I think so. But he needs to do a lot of healing that he's just not done yet.
Peter, likewise, is in a state where he'd need an enormous amount of healing to have another father.
I think with Ben particularly we need to distinguish from Dad as a title and Dad as a role. Peter Parker, whatever universe he's in, does not call Ben "Dad." He calls him uncle--but calling someone "uncle" does not dispositively indicate that that's the role they fill for you.
And there's no real definitive right answer as to what Peter considered Ben to be. Life is messy. Peter's relationship with Ben and his father is honestly fascinating. Peter went to live with Ben at a young age--but not so young that he didn't have defined roles of "Mom" and "Dad" already filled. He never tried to call Ben and May mom and dad. But it's indisputable that the larger influences on his life were May and Ben. He's spent more time with may and ben than he ever did his parents. It's their moral code that defines his character. By every functional sense of the word, Ben and May Parker are his acting parents, but they never cross into parenthood by title.
If you lean into the comic book death of the Parkers, it's especially interesting when you take in Ben's likely confused feelings on this. His brother died in the most obvious cover-up known to man. They were murdered, their plane was sabotaged, and Ben can't do anything about that except raise his brother's son. His brother won't get the chance to be Peter's father throughout his life. He won't get to be there for Peter's graduation, birthdays, wedding--all those things Ben thought he'd live to see. Richard's death is this horrible source of constant, aching injustice, and instead of getting that justice for him, Ben gets what Richard should have gotten to experience--would he have felt guilty taking the title of Dad too? At the end of his life, did he regret never telling Peter that he was his son?
Does Peter regret never telling Ben that he was his father?
Ben is meant to be this horrible, aching space in the narrative. The death was recent and the pain is fresh. Peter lost someone who was one of the biggest if not the biggest influences in his life. Could he want another father figure one day? Honestly, I have no idea. He's already lost two. But he definitely would not be ready right now. If you offered him a new father figure right now, he'd say he doesn't want them--he wants his uncle, and that's the person he simply cannot have.
This isn't to diminish Frank and Peter's relationship--it's just that it's very messy, fresh, and has a lot of space to grow. Are they important to each other? Absolutely. Is Frank Peter's father right now? No, and they both would need a lot of character development and healing if they were ever to get to that point.
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19 and 23 for Teldryn/Wren
Long so gonna go under a readmore
19. What values do they not share? How do they reconcile those differences?
There's a lot. But because both are stubborn and opinionated but not forceful in this sense, so this often just involves them shrugging and knowing the other won't compromise certain major things. Neither are great at talking about their feelings until it's extremely necessary or very emotionally charged. I have a feeling that's just what they do in general.
Aside from Teldryn growing up involved in and surrounded by Dunmeri culture, rhetoric, and traditions whereas Wren never really did (aside from Cyrodiilized versions, which he hardly saw anyway), Wren is significantly more jaded with the gods and princes after the events of MW and the whole prophecy thing was a point of anxiety with him, as it always is. Religions differ with them, but are willing to get involved with one thing or another without going full worship or praises and tweak some things for the others' comfort. Wren generally doesn't care what Teldryn does on a religious front, but obviously the werewolf thing is a little more dangerous and risky so he takes extra precautions, if nothing else for Teldryn's peace of mind. While this could be a major dealbreaker for some, I don't see either as being more pious than the average denizen and they know they're definitely not saints and curiosity plays into it, I'm sure.
Generally, they're pretty adaptable but let each other do their own for the most part.
23. What was their first impression of each other?
There's two instances of this, but the first time was very brief. During the fallout of the Red Year, they were both on the mainland of Morrowind with rescue/restoration efforts and mercenary work. Wren was there on a contract as well as acting as a restoration mage. He "coincidentally" ran into Teldryn in a bar one evening and watched some drunk people start beefing, to which Teldryn made some dry remark about them and Wren decided to keep the conversation going...because Teldryn looked extremely similar to his target, so the goal was to get him alone and somewhere private. Fortunately, Wren realized pretty quickly he wasn't the target so Teldryn didn't get a blade through his windpipe, but they were at the getting their clothes off stage so it was a close shave.
Wren thought he was street smart albeit a bit sheltered and a faking til you made it type confidence at the time (though, granted, they were in the middle of a goddamn ecological disaster) and saw no point in going through with the kill to avoid witnesses, and let it just be a hook up. Teldryn thought Wren was intriguing but clearly closed up and reluctant to actually socialize--he did think Wren's throat scar was really cool, though. Other than that I'd imagine they just faded from each other's minds as a random hookup in the middle of some bullshit to get some stress out of their system and have a warm body next to them for a night.
They didn't recognize each other until a bit later after a few "don't I know you?"s back and forth while they went about their business, but in 201 was when they had continuous interaction with each other after Dusk recommended Teldryn to Wren for some quick work of getting Dwemer metal out of a ruin to make his leg with. Wren felt kind of bad because that shit's heavy and his leg was getting worse so he wouldn't be carrying as much as he normally would, so he tripled Teldryn's pay and gave him some strength potions and half of whatever gold they found. Teldryn was, naturally, very happy with this compared to his regular rate lmao. Wren was pretty neutral about him in general with no real strong thoughts about him, but figured he must be cool if Dusk liked him, if a little obnoxious (which he is, but now Wren just finds it endearing). Initial combat impressions was both were impressed with each other and wouldn't mind sparring in their spare time, but Teldryn didn't expect Wren to go full parkour with knives levels of combat later once he got his prosthetic done and on him
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