#[ long sigh ] i should look more into the theological perspectives on this matter
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forgot what i meant to be posting about earlier. was watching a video from a catholic priest on youtube the other day and one of the points was like. should we pray for the devil. and what he said was that unlike us, angels have a fixed nature, and that from the beginning of time satan chose to be the way that he is. so he cannot be saved. and therefore there is no reason to pray for him. which is fucking crazzyyyyyyyy!!!!! first of all what the fuck do you mean he's evil because he has always been that way. if he can't change then he doesn't really have free will. if he was that way from the very beginning then that means god created him that way. and if he was resigned to be fucked up and evil forever and ever then what was all the time he spent Not being fucked up and evil :| to rebel you have to be a part of the system first... is this implying that lucifer was sitting around going man i can't wait to try and overthrow god someday once he does something that upsets me... and god being omnipotent just went yeah this is fine. not going to address this until you do something ill advised at which time i will Cast You Down and Damn You Forever. not giving you a pass on this one god you literally made that guy that way :| and frankly just because he isn't going to change isn't a reason to pray for someone i think. we can never have too much compassion and hope and if we can carry it for someone reprehensible then we can carry it for everyone. and we Should carry it for everyone. that's like... the central thing... this is how we get discrimination by turning off our good will once we deem something evil or irreparable... which is all to say that that specific take on lucifer is fascinating and fucked up and wrong. and doesn't matter cause i like that guy better than god anyway. so.
#[ long sigh ] i should look more into the theological perspectives on this matter#will bring it to my therapist on thursday. talk about it then.#shout out to my therapy sessions where i go and talk about emotional issues for like twenty minutes max#and then bring up something related to religion and settle the fuck in for the rest of the hour#not even in a 'religion hurt me' way. i go 'okay so i was listening to this podcast and it brought up a new framing of a relationship#with jesus.' and then we sit and have a theological discussion where he is a college professor who was on track to be a priest#at some point i'm p sure. and is obviously relieved to talk to someone who wants to have that kind of conversation#from an academic/theological but also like. distrustful and critical of religion and the system that it perpetuates.#i say 'obviously relieved' he has told me out loud in words that he enjoys talking to me cause i bring good perspectives haha#winning at therapy (having academic discussions)#anyway it's also cool cause then i don't have to come on here and make inordinately long posts like this one...#valentine notes#you guys love me though right#catholic tag
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