#@glassferns i dare you to attack team cap again

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The Defense of Team Cap (Semi-Formalized) June 30th, 2020

@glassferns​ I did it. Look at how much I wrote. And the tags.

It began when Fern sent me this

I am on Team Cap. Because of this, so when Fern sent me that I went straight to the teams defense, and this is that, but slightly formalized.

I have to agree that Steve was being extreme in his reaction to the Sokovia Accords, however there were valid reasons for him to be against the Accords and outside factors that made the response more extreme than it had to be.

To begin, we know that General Ross has been shown to be biased towards members of the Avengers with extreme abilities and no binding alliances (other than to the Avengers), such as Wanda Maximoff(Scarlet Witch) and Bruce Banner(The Hulk). Aside from this he is not, and has never been according to my memory, on particularly good terms with any of the Avengers.

Secondly, the government of the United States (in the MCU for the purposes of this argument) has not taken credit for things they’ve done. For example, in Marvel’s The Avengers(2012), The World Council, a panel of representatives from multiple countries around the world which oversaw S.H.I.E.L.D., made the decision to send a nuke to New York City in an attempt to stop the Chitauri from invading Earth. Not only, would this have killed at least 8 million people (there would have been others unaccounted for) but it most likely would have failed in stopping the invasion, because the Chitauri ships would have been out of range of the blast they would have been able to continue their invasion, but without the buffer made by the Avengers.

Thirdly, yes the Avengers have made mistakes. They are a human/human-like group of 8(sometimes 10) that try to deal with extreme threats to society, they will not be able to have successful mission 100% of the time. Let’s take a look at some of their mistakes and see how they could have been avoided. First off, Ultron. In Sokovia, the Avengers managed to minimize the damage as much as they could. Ultron himself was meant to be the peace-keeper the world needed, and had Tony Stark and Bruce Banner finished Ultron’s coding/upload before his conscience was activated, it’s highly unlikely that he would have actually caused so much damage. Secondly, Lagos. Wanda Maximoff saved hundreds of people. From what I could gather, there were hundreds of people in that marketplace that would have definitely died had Wanda not contained the explosion, and yes, those that were in the building and suffered from the explosion should not have had to deal with that, but comparatively, it was under 100 people vs hundreds. From the footage available, it also seems that Wanda was trying to send the explosion as high as she could away from all people, it’s just that she wasn’t able to contain it long enough to get it all the way up. Now, Wanda wouldn’t have had to deal with that explosion had Steve registered the bomb earlier. But he didn’t. And for this, I have to give partial blame to the government, specifically S.H.I.E.L.D.. Not all of the blame, but some of it. 

Specifically because, this 27(?) year old man who died to save his country from the Tesseract lost everything. His friends, family, job, everything. Except for one person. The way they reintroduced him to the world would’ve been a huge shock and most likely did nothing to help his mental state. Additionally, he had about 2 weeks between his arrival in the 21st century before he had to turn around and fight for the exact thing he had lost everything for. If that wasn’t damaging enough to his psyche in Captain America: Civil War(2016) Peggy died. She was the last thing he had from the time he should have been living in and she was gone. This messed him up emotionally. 

Similarly, Tony also would have been emotionally compromised because of his break with Pepper Potts. Having the two leaders of the team be emotionally compromised only hindered their decision making abilities which made their responses to such a rift being formed in the Avengers extreme.

Additionally, the government, specifically Colonel Phillips from Captain America: The First Avenger(2011), has made bad calls before. In the 40s, Steve was not supposed to rescue the 107th, he went against orders to do that. Their rescue was the victory that finally got Steve to go on more missions and save more people. So if he had listened to his superiors at the time, he both would have been stuck as a showperson (and potentially stuck in a lab after the war), the entire 107th would have been dead, and hydra would have stayed strong in its mission, meaning it could have done anything to the world. Another instance is in Captain America: The Winter Soldier(2014) when S.H.I.E.L.D. was going to use the tri-carriers to ‘protect’ the world. Though this was mainly Hydra, the program was still created/approved by the government and would have ruled through fear. Though this wasn’t a factor in Captain America: Civil War, S.H.I.E.L.D. did train Ava Starr(The Ghost) to be used in a manner similar to that of the Winter Soldier when he was under Hydras control. This only further cements the idea that S.H.I.E.L.D. and the government have not consistently thought about the wellbeing of many people and have given the Avengers many reasons to not trust them 100%.

Finally, the Avengers were given 3 days to read through a thick packet and make a decision that would severely affect their lives as a team. I assume this was done to intentionally pressure them into giving up a large portion of their control. Circling back to General Ross not having a very good standing with the Avengers and overall being a suspicious person. Considering he was the one to present the Sokovia Accords to the Avengers, I assume that there were some clauses that were not in the best interests of the Avengers or the people.

In conclusion, Team Cap had many reasons to go against the Sokovia Accords. There were too many unknown factors and too little time for the Avengers to make a sound decision as a team. Had they been given more time, they might have been able to negotiate a healthy supervision from the governments of the world. They made a good point of, what if we need to go somewhere they won’t let us. Despite what Natasha Romanoff said, I don’t think that them signing the Accords would allow them to still have, “one hand on the wheel” I think it would be more like the Avengers sitting in the passenger seat with a fake wheel in front of them. I do concede that the reactions of Team Cap were extreme and largely unnecessary but so were the reactions of Team Iron Man. This was all because the leaders of both teams were compromised. All of the mess and drama could have been avoided had the Avengers been given both more time to truly examine the Sokovia Accords and had more emotional and mental support during their years on active duty.

Due to all these factors and the faults of both teams, I’m Team Thor.

Original Argument made on Tuesday, June 30th, 2020 between 10:46pm(22:46) and 11:19pm(23:19) via text message conversation.

Sources:

Captain America: The First Avenger (2011)

Captain America: The Winter Soldier (2014)

Captain America: Civil War (2016)

Marvel’s The Avengers (2012)

Avengers: Age of Ultron (2015)

Ant-Man and the Wasp (2018)

The Incredible Hulk (2008)

Trivia Facts about movies listed above

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