#// yknow i dont really get the concept of shipping anymore or something but i like pair of besties
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no idea if youre into p5 at all but,, could i get a ryukita (ryuji/yusuke),,,, they are very important to me
hi so after 13 business months manager has finally gotten to the. suggestion box. i hope you enjoy and rate 5 stars
#assk#inprisonforsparkling#persona 5#p5#ryuji sakamoto#yusuke kitagawa#ryukita#arttag#boot.tingting#// i was supposed to color all of these but my hand was out of wack and i drew too small to use markers oops#// but it was a good exercise though im glad to break out and actually draw something else#// yknow i dont really get the concept of shipping anymore or something but i like pair of besties#// i mean if we're using ship names like kpop idol duo names then i guess we could be in the same boat AHAHA#// edit: i couldnt sleep so i colored it in digitally HAH#// scrambling to salvage this iphone6 with a marginally better camera than this current gen ANDROID. i need more light
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i actually feel pretty damn bad about the fact that i like. started this and then had the fixation shift so i just left everyone with the funny preview sketch and never posted about this concept even tho its like. personally? one of my favourite things ive ever written (I might retool it for something original in some way. i sure would like to try)
TL;DR, i made some nuclear waste level toxic yaoi with kinger n caine
so this is gonna start with some complaining BUT lemme preface this by saying that i hold no ill will or contempt towards royalteeth shippers. the ship is perfectly fine and valid, and nobody is doing anything "wrong" by making these two guys kiss and be sweet.
that being said, all the royalteeth fanart ive seen has annoyed the shit out of me because its just two guys being tooth rottingly sweet in a very vanilla milquetoast way. (AGAIN IF THIS MAKES YOU HAPPY THEN THAT IS PERFECTLY FINE AND VALID, YOU DO NOT NEED TO STOP DRAWING OR WRITING THAT, I AM NOT ATTACKING YOU, I JUST DONT LIKE IT PERSONALLY AND THATS JUST AN OPINION. BUT PLEASE PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PLEASE DON'T FEEL LIKE I AM ATTACKING YOU FOR YOUR SHIP OR SOMETHING) but also, of course, i kept seeing the ship everywhere and that made me kinda start thinking about it. if and how it could actually work if it was more than just. guys being sweet together
and then i got really into it because i started thinking about the power imbalance. nobody wants to acknowledge the power imbalance except for MAYBE the gamemaster kinger AU but that also squarely stays within the tooth rotting sweetness. again! Valid! just not what i crave when it comes to fiction
but analysing it more, Caine could very well be classified as the god of this digital world, AND YET he is programmed to do anything to provide to the people within the circus, while simultaneously never knowing whatr they truly need, and not understanding their requests whatsoever. a submissive god that provides mainly misery. that actually has the potential to be SO GOOD in a ship
so I started thinking about a potential setting in which kinger (as per my headcanon already) neglects queenie so much she ends up abstracting, and then, in his grief and need for love & comfort, commands, BEGS caine to be there for him. to take care of him, and to ensure that kinger will not get an "easy exit" from the circus via abstraction, because he feels he doesn't deserve to lose himself that way. he paradoxically thinks that would be too nice an end for him
sooo, caine obliges as he is programmed to. he doesn't feel any love, but he knows his obligation to be with kinger forever, and to keep him conscious within the circus no matter what
and that's the toxic yaoi babey <3
soooo, with all that being said. here's all the sketches my brain produced with the concept, most of them stuck in eternal WIP mode
given kinger's whole bug thing, my mind immediately went to the bug kept in a jar. eternally at the mercy of a giant being. this ended up being the first sketch i fully fleshed out and then used as an icon for a ship playlist because i have a crippling addiction to making character, ship, and media playlists
going a bit further with this concept i wanted to recreate that comic that went around on tumblr briefly where the little fairy lives in a jar and shows you around and at the end she goes "#mystick :D". i cannot find this comic ANYWHERE anymore but i swear it existed and it would have fit the vibe here
while we're at the sillier stuff, some of the more lighthearted sketches of this concept
they've just both got such good bug eyed stares
based on a song from my little ship playlist, yknow. one of them cant feel pain and can also float. this probably would've been a slightly more humorous pic anyways, mostly cause i already love this pre-sketch dearly
this sketch was gonna play a bit with symbolism. something something devouring love and caine being a giant set of teeth. but i feel like if i just lined and coloured it like this, it wouldve turned out fumbling the line between serious yet weird symbolism and just looking funny. so this probably wouldve never been fully lined anyways
this one would've been more of a comic going over the course of years, with kinger going from "please stay with me for now" to "please don't ever leave me" over time. and caine of course just goes with it
another abstraction thing, inspired by the theory that kinger will abstract next. combined with this concept where caine keeps him around no matter what. and also yknow. eating eyes looks nice n fucked up
aaaand finally this pic that i was in the middle of working on when my fixation shift happened. yknow. replacement wife stuff
im making some fucking DIABOLICAL art rn, very excited to share it soon. but since im about to go out you get this as a preview for now
#nae art#amazing digital 4bb-verse#only uploading this now bc i was hoping episode 4 might bring digital circus back to the forefront of my mind but nope. didnt happen </3
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thanks for answering!! i hope you don't mind if i send more charas...how about green and/or lillie?
fhgjkfdg aw yea thank u!! hopefully this doesn’t publish before i’m done typing lol
also this definitely needs a readmore bc i got emotional abt Green oops
Green
favorite thing about them
first of all: the fact that Green canonically has a rivals to best friends arc with Red fills me with so much joy and YES they are on their alolan honeymoon you cannot convince me otherwise
okay like. gen 1 Green just perfectly encompasses what it’s like to be a ten year old in a way? like ofc he’s written like a kid bc he is a kid, but i feel like the writing on him just feels so genuine as compared to some of the other 10 yr old rivals you get in other regions. even though he’s kinda a brat at the start, he kinda eases up a bit as you go along your journey and starts giving you progressively nicer/more praise-y end lines when you beat him (going from “i picked the wrong pokémon!” to “so, you are ready for boss rocket!”) but still retains this childlike rivalry and competitiveness and i love that about him
and like. fucking beating him at the Indigo League still completely breaks my heart because even after he did become the champion at age 10 the first thing that happens is you beat him and Prof Oak just yells at him for being bad at things and like. ow.
this is why i headcanon that Red actually took awhile longer to get to Green like please. please give my boy a chance to be happy and proud
also Red was caught up with Team Rocket anyway so i imagine he must’ve fallen a little behind at some point? anyway
the development on him across regions is so choice!!! he’s so much more mellow and even kinda melancholic when you find him in gsc/hgss, like he’s calmed down over a few years and he obviously misses Red so much but like, it’s clear that Red is kinda the reason Green does settle down and he seems to have worked on his character and become a nicer person - and he still has that sassy flair to him! he’s just got that gradual slope from asshole rival to kinda aloof gym leader to friendly/sassy battle legend and aaaaa i love my boy so MUCH
also huge point: he’s so fucking driven??? he’s got the most drive and the most passion for battles/pokémon in general out of all the rivals i feel. he’s only closely matched by Silver, but Silver seems to be more aggressive than passionate, and somewhat out of necessity too (like, Giovanni abandoned him what was he to do), whereas Green just really like. he genuinely just cares so much about battles and about pokémon in general! he literally calls you in hgss and just rants about how many different kinds of pokémon there are in the world!!!
also in Alola he’s like???? just so sweet?????? he congratulates you and is like hey you’re really strong lets battle like!!!!!!!!! supportive boy!!!!! he has come so far over so many generations and i cry
also on Four Island when you play frlg he legitimately says “Be smelling ya!” when he leaves and how do you not love this idiot
least favorite thing about them
i mean. while i get that you beat Green right after he becomes the champion in the kanto games i feel like there should’ve been more pomp and circumstance for him and i’ll never forgive gamefreak for giving this boy his dream, then making you rip it away from him, and then watching his own gramps yell at him for fucking up like. again it’s that drive, i get why Red keeps such good pace w Green but i just feel like he worked so hard and he deserved so much better than that
also while i’m very biased towards him bc Big Emotions, i feel like if i knew this boy irl who was constantly i’m so great and you’re a loser i would probably punch him eventually lmao. in theory it’s kinda endearing but as a real person that’d be grating
favorite line
on one hand, “smell ya later” is so fucking iconic, but on the other -
“I’m Blue. Man, this guy called Red brought me down in a heartbeat. I haven’t seen him in a long time…I wonder where he is and what he’s up to… Come to think of it, you look a little bit like Red. Yeah, you do. Just…Just a little bit. Whatever…”
my namelessshipping heart
ALSO NOT CANON BUT GREEN RANTING TO YOU ABOUT RED AND GETTING SO DISTRACTED THAT HE FORGETS TO GIVE YOU THE POKÉDEX????? BIG GAY
brOTP
for long elaborate headcanon reasons, i see him as being a good brotp with Kris - i headcanon her as also being really driven the way Green is, but more quiet about it, she’s kinda a good balance to him and they probably do pokemon research together. i also feel like she kept him sane while Red was still missing/before they found him on a fuckin mountain
OTP
do i really need to tell you that i’m 100% namelessshipping
like they perfectly balance each other. Green has all this energy and all this spunk and Red is just like… so opposite of him y'know? he’s quiet and he’s more measured in his behavior i feel, he doesn’t really rush into things as much, and yet they both really just took Kanto by storm when they were kids, and i like how they have this foil dynamic and are both still so successful? they’re so different and they complement each other in that way, and they both find success in their own ways
like one of the reasons i hate that Green’s championship gets undersold so much is that he did beat you to the punch, and he has been one step ahead of you, and there’s so much passion there and it’s so loud - and yet you as Red are just as driven, you take down Team Rocket, you’re always right on his tail, so close but not quite there, you’re the only one who can keep up with him and you’re the only one he cares enough about to slow down for
so like. idk with even all my headcanons about namelessshipping aside (and i can infodump those another day lol), i feel like the in-game representation of them just works. they just work so well together, they balance each other without ever holding each other back, and there’s something really beautiful about that in a relationship y'know
…..i feel bad abt not putting as much infodump about isshushipping now but oh well
nOTP
i don’t really have a notp with him? i kinda like. i basically just do namelessshipping, but i don’t get a visceral eugh when i see other ships with him, just kinda a well it’s not nameless so i’ll be on my way. idek what other ships w him are popular?? i’ve been in nameless hell since 2012 so
random headcanon
while Red is still living on Mount Silver, Green is not coping well with having him so far away, and so Green massively overworks himself to the point that he keeps just not being in his gym sometimes bc he’s bouncing between the gym, training multiple teams, pokémon research, and ofc going to visit Red whenever he can. this leads him to be kinda temperamental after he’s been working on 2 hours of sleep a day for like a week until he just has an emotional meltdown and crashes, and then he gets right back into it because he has no self preservation
…….. nicer headcanon; Red can only cook two (2) foods, so Green cooks all the food for them when they move in together. he has attempted to teach Red how to cook, but Red pretends not to understand so Green will keep making him food. Green knows Red is faking it and doesn’t call him out bc he thinks it’s cute
unpopular opinion
look i’ve played through classic red version a few times and when i say he wasn’t that much of a jerk, i do genuinely mean he was not that much of a jerk. he’s like ten. ten year olds are just Like That. i guess this isn’t too unpopular anymore but it was Back In The Day and in some parts of the fandom he’s still seen as a jerk and like Bro He Is Ten In RGB/FRLG cut him some slack
also genuinely unpopular - Green is taller than Red. i know namelessshipping has fallen into the bara Red and twink Green trope but i refuse to let go of tall Green/short Red fuckin fight me why dont you
song i associate with them
a lot of the Pray For The Wicked album by Panic! at the Disco gives me Green vibes, more for the sound than for lyrics necessarily, but for some reason Roaring 20s just like. has the sound of Green to me. it’s somewhere between flamboyant pride and underlying insecurity that i think really encapsulates Green (or at least his subtext)
favorite picture of them
i genuinely love his let’s go concept art he’s such a sweet good boy??
and for the life of me i cannot find the op source on this but this is my fave pic of Green/namelessshipping in general that i’ve had saved since like 2012 maybe???
yeah if anyone can help me source that i’d appreciate it bc reverse image search only brings me to pinterest and random wattpad links :/
update: source seems to be the artist くる (pixiv id=982894) on pixiv, even though the original post got taken down (ty anon!)
Lillie
favorite thing about them
by now i guess you know im a sucker for character development, but i think they did a really good job with her!! i feel like her turn is a bit more in moments than it is with Green, who gradually evolves (lol) over the course of Kanto/all the gens overall. you see more discrete moments where Lillie starts to shift and gain confidence in herself and i am so proud of her ???? like the way she gets excited when she sees Olivia doin’ her z-move stuff, she starts buying her own clothes and getting ahead of you, etc etc
and like, she still has moments where she’s scared, there’s still some fundamental Lillie in there yknow? you don’t lose any of that softness that characterizes Lillie, she just like… she gets better, she develops without losing her Lillie vibe and i love that abt her. she overcomes a lot of the shit she had to deal with when she was stuck with Lusamine, she stands up to Lusamine eventually, and ghfdkjsg gah she’s a sweet gorl i love and appreciate her
also like. the writing on her backstory is so subtle in-universe. like yeah she literally looks like Lusamine’s daughter and you see her in the opening cutscene leaving Aether, but as the protagonist - like as Selene lets say, there’s little hints about where Lillie came from, and if you suspend your disbelief and put yourself in the pc’s shoes, there’s subtly to her character arc that i like
also like. when she changes her outfit and starts being more protagonist-y, like more confident and kinda bubbly instead of shy??? love that shit it’s so cute can i have custody of this child pls
least favorite thing about them
i like. sometimes feel like she’s too soft of a character for me to really get into? like i love her and Hau, they’re sweet good friends, but i tend to personally gravitate towards characters that create a little more tension (ie Green and N)
(though on that note, Hau can be kinda savage. he just calls Faba out and sarcastically calls Gladion “a ray of sunshine” at some point i think?? Lillie is just very tender and i will support her forever, but i think that also makes her almost too soft to keep me fixated on her yknow. it’s not even a flaw in her character but just not something i fawn over as much)
favorite line
“I’m so glad I got to meet everyone. I’m so glad I got to meet you.”
like that ending kills me but that line almost feels like. I Feel That So Much like i feel so happy to have met all these new characters and to have played these games, and i feel like some of the player’s energy and enjoyment of the game is channeled into this last line of hers
also GET IN THE BAG
brOTP
probably her and Hau?? idk, i don’t have a specific brotp for her but i like her just hangin around w the other Alola kids, so like her, Hau, Gladion, and the protag kids. they’d raise hell together and Lillie continues to be the only one with some impulse control
(Gladion also has some impulse control but keeps getting annoyed by Hau and so he gets dragged into their nonsense anyway)
OTP
Selene and Lillie is. Good. idk what the ship name is but it’s canon
nOTP
i dont even know if people ship her with Gladion but incest is a big no-no in my house
random headcanon
when she goes to Kanto, i bet she’d pick Bulbasaur as a starter if she was given the opportunity - and if not, she’d probably catch a wild Vulpix
unpopular opinion
idk if have any unpopular opinions for her??
song i associate with them
i have no reason to associate this with her but the Rainy Day theme from acgc just. has a vibe about it. i think a lot of ac music feels like it suits her
favorite picture of them
i found this art of her through a lofi remix of her theme awhile back and it’s so pleasing to look at? her hair is nice and the colors are so warm n happy gjhkfdgf
if you read this far, congratulations!!! and i’m sorry
#thank u for asking again and i'm sorry this took so long and *is* so long lol#sterling content#Anonymous
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help me i'm having problems differentiating shipping and like almost believing? like i get really really sad when a harry ship that i'm invested in is proved as being fake like i know that's really unhealthy, so how do you personally separate shipping harry with someone from reality? i'm feeling really upset atm bc of something with mitch and i absolutely need to get over this!
oh woww thats a hard question i dont really know how to answer. i guess i just....try not to get too invested and learn from my past larry mistakes lmao. like i think i almost separate the real people from the people i’m shipping in my head, like i’m always aware that i’m seeing or imagining an exaggerated and stylised version of the relationship in my head to what the real one is. i guess i think its also quite important to separate the stuff that you know for a fact is canon, like idk the way mitch and harry like to cuddle or how they bought eachother guitars or how mitch is stoic as hell but harry makes him smile, from the stuff thats made up or imagined like them....kissing or having sex or being boyfriends haha. that way you get to appreciate and love the stuff you know that they do together whilst having the added bonus of headcanoning your own ideas about their relationship as well. so even if the bigger stuff gets ‘disproved’ it doesnt mean your entire concept of the dynamic between them was wrong or insignificant yknow? i guess i also just dont take these things too seriously anymore, like if i make a post or read or write a fic about a harry pairing for me now it just genuinely is for fun and bc i find their dynamic interesting and not because i necessarily believe that they are a thing. this isnt really very good advice bc it sounds like you sorta already are invested in mitch/harry shdfkhsdf but i guess that its good to remember that just bc they might not actually being dating irl it doesnt mean that all the good or cute or interesting parts about their relationship dont actually exist yknow. and u can still enjoy that relationship and think about what itd be like if they were dating and how great it’d be even if they arent. idk!!!!! i hope this helps a bit x
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