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Turning Mikey into a fox so he can join us in furry town, veryy inspired by ur Michael design
This is actually very cute, funny lil guy
#ask reply#fanart#of course his fursona be a fox duh duh#There’s a non zero change Michael could of drawn himself a fursona#just for the fuck of it to see#like he’s around animal characters all the time#and in canon can draw them really well#so I can see he sketched at least once what his animatronic would look like#can match Vanessa pff
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can't take topper's stupid ass anywhere
#chuckling thinking about barry replying to kelce's original tweet completely unprovoked#also chuckling at kelce tweeting something so fucking dumbbbbbb#and really LMFAOing abt toppers zero replies zero retweets and 5 like he is a LEWSERRRRRRRR#barry vs rafe's stupid ass friends is so fucking funny to me y'all im crying#obx posting#kelce outer banks#kelce obx#barry outer banks#barry obx#topper thornton#outer banks#obx#mine#obx tweeting
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im just gonna come right out and say it:
pretty much everyone in this fandom portrays Silver as this perfect, flawless, polite, beautiful, princely, romantic gentleman who can do absolutely no wrong in his life ever. which is… not really accurate at all.
he’s odd. he struggles with showing emotions and doesn’t understand social cues very well. his dorm uniform vignette is literally about how people find him strange and unapproachable due to his lack of expressiveness. in his lab coat vignette, Jamil straight up calls him weird to his face and he fully agrees without hesitation.
and in one of his voice lines, he calls Yuu strange just for wanting to hang out with him. stop and think about that for a second. he considers himself boring and doesn’t expect anyone would want to spend time with him. maybe he used to try and make friends, but people kept avoiding him, saying that he wasn’t fun to be around.
he’s not the handsome guy that everybody in the school falls for, he’s the quiet kid who doesn’t say much or has any friends outside of his own personal circle. and i think that has a lot of potential for angst.
#if u reply to my post with smth like ‘oh but he IS perfect and flawless and princely’ i will actually fucking block you#youre free to disagree with me ofc but please dont be annoying about it#read a vignette instead of an x reader i am begging you#i wrote this on zero sleep so if i seem annoyed or my wording is off thats why#twisted wonderland#disney twisted wonderland#twst silver#twst analysis#diasomnia#chemy’s concoctions 🧪
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i guess some people are still hoping dropout will make some sort of statement as to the transmisogyny discussions and let me just say that i definitely don't think that's going to happen.
even in the best case imagined scenario we can put forth where they are actually reading what we're saying, putting out a statement would be a bad idea from their perspective. right now these discussions are mostly contained in an easily ignored corner of a niche and actively dying microblogging website - if they responded publicly it would bring the discussion out of the dark dilapidated corners of tumblr and out into the wider world. the best strategy for them (again, from their perspective!) would be to sit and wait and silently make adjustments until people are happier.
now, what i really think is happening is they're not really thinking about it at all. we already know people in and around the company like aabria have been blocking people talking about this so they don't have to see it, and that their audience has responded very aggressively to this discussion in general. i think if there was any talk about this inside the company, it was a random slack message like "hey, warning to people on tumblr, we're getting a lot of hate today. maybe take a week off from there or block liberally" and then they moved on.
overall im really not expecting any positive change. im hoping for it! im willing to wait a little bit and be proven wrong! but unfortunately i am usually correct in being a pessimist so i doubt it.
#transmisogyny#dropout#if you're stupid in the replies or the reblogs you will be blocked immediately. i have zero patience for chuds and idiots
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phantom of the opera + twitter / (insp)
#the official opera house twitter account gives approximately zero fucks#people keep replying to their normal business/promotional tweets like “are you going to do anything about the phantom”#and they just keep tweeting like :)#finally they put out an announcement (a notes app screenshot) saying that the phantom isn't real BUT they will be offering ghost tours soon#phantom of the opera#poto#poto shitpost#poto twit
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(this is probably gonna be curel but eh-)
gl!charlie in front of dead gl!ranboo saying L
slight blood warning!!
i didn’t know which version of gl!charlie so i drew em all
#zero replies#slimecicle#ranboo#genloss slimecicle#generation loss#genloss ranboo#genloss#gl!charlie#gl!slimecicle#gl!ranboo#generation loss fanart#genloss fanart
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Caduceus glyph doodle while I get back on my feet
#art#magic#design#glyph#pu art#solivaga#i mean I can tag it for soli if it's designed for soli#slowly starting to feel more like myself so I will get back to replying to everyone soon!! thank you for being patient#always feel so bad when I have to leave asks or comments sit for too long#but I've had zero brain for social or people-like thoughts lately skjfdfjkl#Snakes!!!
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Why do people like Lily? From what we've seen of her in the books she seems like a charming and good hearted person but also someone who is shallow, judgemental, a social climber, a classist and immature. Why do people make her out to be this feminist, kind hearted role model that is always morally above others and everyone likes her because she is oh so kind and great? It makes me cringe. From the text we can see that she had a black and white thinking, was shallow and probably self righeous, always thinking she's right and not being able to see the perspective of others. (We can see this in her interactions with Snape) So why do people love her? Do people really need a 'girl boss' in every fandom? There always seems to be one that's just made up by the fans. It looks like people just need a character they can point at and say "see we care about female characters, this one is oh so great, she can't do no wrong, worship her please." 🙄
Look, no offence, but... what? 'Shallow, classist, judgmental, social climber' what? Where are you getting this? Because she stopped being friends with a boy who literally called her a slur? Because she criticised that boy for defending and befriending people who were bigoted against people like herself? Like sorry but I think I'm entirely the wrong person to come to with this kind of thing. I fully disagree. I could not disagree more.
Black and white thinking? The opposite. Lily remained friends with someone who espoused the exact opposite of her beliefs for way too long. Not just her beliefs, but her right to exist. She tolerated Snape (and I do love him as a character, but still) way more than she should have, objectively speaking. That's the opposite of black and white. She was way too understanding, way too empathetic with him. She didn't judge Snape hard enough, in my opinion.
Nah, look idk what you were hoping with this ask but I'm sorry, I'm generally a staunch Lily defender and I heavily disagree with what you're saying. It's not that I think she's a perfect person, she certainly has her flaws like anyone. I don't think that she should be idealised, I think she should be given complexity like any character, but neither do I think she's classist (esp since she's meant to be working class) nor particularly judgmental nor shallow nor immature. I love Snape but he was terrible to her. He befriended people who wanted her dead. Lily didn't owe him anything, and her """righteousness""" as you say is not only entirely justified, but objectively speaking she should have dropped that bitch way earlier.
Why do people (including myself) love Lily? Because she was a good person. Because she was brave and decent and kind. She remained friends with Sev for years despite peer pressure and common sense and she defended him without hesitation. She dedicated her life to fighting for what was right. Lily is a good person. She's not inherently, morally above others, she's not perfect but she was a good, kind person, the way her son is a good, kind person.
Not that difficult to understand imo, unless you have way higher standards for male characters than female characters. Not everyone has to like or be interested in Lily but pretending she's somehow worse/less worthy of interest than Snape, James, Sirius, Regulus, etc (and I imagine you've got to be a fan of some of these marauders era characters if you're reading my blog) because she dropped a guy who wanted to join a fascist group that wanted her dead is absolutely ridiculous.
Lily is so kind and great. Her act of bravery and sacrifice is what kickstarts the entire HP series. Sorry. Like absolutely not, I completely disagree with you about Lily's character. People liking a female character doesn't mean that they have a shallow 'girl boss' approach to that character, and I find that a condescending explanation for why people like myself might be fans of Lily Evans. Maybe, and you perhaps should consider this, us fans of Lily just enjoy and are interested in female characters the exact same way we might be interested in male ones.
Look I don't want to be mean, but can't you tell from my icon, which is clearly supposed to be Lily, that I love Lily? Lily is one of my favourite HP characters. I really don't want to be rude but I'm absolutely the last person who'd share this viewpoint.
#sorry i know this is a bit of a rude/blunt response but i just dislike the tone of this#im not usually so rude in a reply but i also dislike the idea that its 'other' ppl who like lily. like that's me. i love lily.#lily evans#it's always 'lily has to see it from sev's point of view' but nobody ever expects sev to see it from hers!#it's so blatant#zero expectation for sev to literally understand that his mates hate her kind#and that the group he aspires to join wants to kill/subjugate ppl like her#but poor sev! because lily that big meanie questions the fact that he's friends with ppl who hate her#and lily i guess needs to be way nicer and more understanding to sev than sev ever is to her. the double standard is so obvious#lily
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I'm just wondering why you get mad when people make up things about Dean but it's okay for you to say Sam is a serial killer
ron swanson i have a permit dot gif
#replies#anonymous#the difference is that when i posit something with zero textual evidence#i dont then use it as a basis to analyze the rest of the show#and present it all as a legitimate interpretation grounded in actual canon#the other difference (and this is the more significant one)#is that i am actually funny#wank for ts
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What do you think happened between Kuai Liang and Cyrax?
I think there's enough evidence that they were close. Which begs the question of how close they were…
I've heard a few theories, including that Cyrax was like a little sister to Kuai, but I honestly doubt that what they had was a brother-sister relationship.
First, because he demands a trust from Cyrax that even he himself didn't have in her (since as we all know, he gave up on her without even trying), which indicates that this blind trust he demands from her comes from a deep, but temporary, bond they had at some point. And as we all know, Cyrax didn't grow up with Kuai Liang like Tomas, she was invited to join the main clan because she was a prodigy in her sub-clan.
Second, although Cyrax is currently the youngest Lin Kuei (since there's no official information regarding Frost in MK1 yet), I noticed that in some of her leaked intros, the older characters talk to her in a way that's very similar to how they referred to Smoke's youth (in MK1, Tomas is the youngest among the three heirs of the deceased Grandmaster), that is, although she is the youngest, she is not a minor or inexperienced since there are intros of some characters flirting with her. I believe that her age is very close (if not the same) as Smoke. Which leads to the possibility that Kuai Liang could have had a romantic relationship with her. I mean, It wouldn't have been immoral or indecent of him to have a relationship with her.
Third, although Harumi is currently Kuai Liang's partner, it is said in his ending that he and Harumi were childhood friends and in Smoke's ending, he says that Harumi and Kuai Liang were just friends. Their romantic relationship arose when he went to Japan to hide in her clan. And though one of the story mode fail quotes refers to how much he'd miss seeing Harumi because he dies, I must remind, those who don't know, that the story mode fails are not canon (just like their quotes).
"As children, we played together. But Harumi Shirai was a woman now, the head of her clan."
"Kuai Liang and I were working hard to build our new clan. But even with the help of his close friend, Harumi, it was difficult."
Fourth, Bi-Han and Cyrax's closeness, as well as "her absolute loyalty to Bi-Han" supposed by Kuai, is based solely on mutual acquaintances (Cyrax's bio says that she served Sektor and she says in story mode that Sektor is her instructor and commander, while Sektor's bio shows that she is the one who is really close to Bi-Han), possible common interests (there are leaked intros that show that Bi-Han is surprised by her change of heart, which indicates that she used to believe in his ambitions for the clan just like Sektor, but unlike Sektor she has limits, such as abandoning Earthrealm's defense during Shang Tsung's attack, Bi-Han scratching Kuai's face and learning that Bi-Han had left the late Grandmaster perish) and I'm inclined to believe that it was Bi-Han who invited Cyrax to serve directly under Sektor (so Kuai believing that she would be absolutely loyal to the Grandmaster who gave her such an opportunity makes sense too). Assuming what Kuai says about him and Bi-Han once having a bond as strong as Kitana and Mileena's is true, and recognizing Bi-Han's clear hurt and disappointment that his blood brother refused to continue following him, it's easy to imagine that Kuai Liang was always following his older brother around, and knowing that Cyrax has been shadowing Sektor as her servant/apprentice… Even if it's cliché, it's quite common to happen. It's not unlikely that they got closer and had a thing once so they wouldn't always be a third wheel.
Fifth, she sounds really heartbroken that he disappeared without explanation. Which indicates that she had feelings for him (or still has…)
Sixth, but not the least, there is this intro that when datamined, was said by the dataminer that it was at the top (which indicates that it's one of Cyrax's intros):
From what I know, this (often) means having fallen in love and had a relationship with a certain person, in this case, Cyrax with Kuai-Liang/Scorpion.
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#mortal kombat#mortal kombat 1#my thoughts#lin kuei#tks for asking#cyrax#cyrax mk1#kuai liang#kuai liang scorpion#kuai liang mk1#kuai liang x cyrax#mk1#tomas vrbada#smoke mk#smoke mk1#harumi shirai#bi han#bi han sub zero#subzero mk1#sektor#sektor mk#sektor mk1#mk leaks#mk1 year 2#mortal kombat headcanons#feng replies
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Okay so on the ao3 thing bc I just saw a really stupid fucking take on it all.
1. Ao3 is not being attacked by a Sudanese group. It IS being attacked. But not by the Sudanese. Yes the group CLAIMS to be Sudanese. No they are not Sudanese, and they may not even be the ones attacking the site, they could just want clout and attention. The existence of this "Sudanese hacker" group is likely just a ploy to hide the identity of the real people behind the group bc I guarantee they are not Sudanese.
2. Absolutely wild to blame the attack of ao3 ON AO3 AND ITS SUPPORTERS. Literally no one who likes and supports Ao3 wants Ao3 to go down at any point in time.
3. Fully stupid to use your issues with Ao3 to justify the loss of a massive archive of fanfiction. I dont particularly care what you think of Ao3, I dont care if you dont like it, I dont care if you hate it. I am well aware that Ao3 as a site has issues and could very well be improved upon. That being said, Ao3 is an archive of millions of fanworks. As of May 2023, they reported that the site hosted over 11 million works from over 40 thousand fandoms. Ao3 has got fics that have been backdated to the creation of modern fanfic in the late 1960s. The loss of that would be completely devastating.
I know that this take is coming from people who primarily havent suffered through massive fanfiction archive losses in the past. The censoring of fanfic.net, the loss of livejournal, the takedowns on forums and community sites. All of these resulted in huge losses of fan-created works. Even with the existence of ao3, we still have lost so so much and frankly I dont think anyone should be advocating for us to lose millions more.
#ao3#anyone who argues with me in the replies will be blocked idc#again i have literally zero care if you dont like ao3#i dont care if you hate ao3#what i do care about is you using your hatred to justify its loss as a good thing#because its not a good thing and never will be
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I LOVE SEEING YOUR CAPTAIN SHIP POSTING ON MY DASH !!! Its so so cute thank you for the delicious content ❤️❤️
Me and the guy who just (accidentally…???) killed my entire troop of Pikmin 😢
#BUT YES OF COURSE!!!!!!!!!! I WILL ALWAYS SUPPLY. eventually.#yeah sorry it took me so long to reply to this#since I knew I absolutely wanted to add this drawing BUT I KEPT GETTING DISTRACTED LOLLLLL#they’re soooo cute I bet they immediately got KO’d after this photo 😁💖💖💖#everytime i see someone else draw them I go feral so I get it#I understand 😔#okay normal tag time#krillerfiller#olimar#captain olimar#nintendo#f zero#f-Zero#captain falcon#captainshipping#falimar#falcon x olimar#olimar x falcon#pikmin#olimar pikmin#pikmin olimar#super smash brothers#super smash bros#super smash bros brawl#smash bros#ssb#ssbb
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Hi!
I'm a little confused about what Y/N works as. To me, they look like a manager, kind of, but they have a staff hat, so I assume that means they're a lower/general employee. Do they work with Sun and Moon directly or do they just see the boys often when they're working?
Sorry if this was asked before!
-An interested anon :))
P.S. you're art style is beautiful <3
You have activated my trap card, dear @chor-reblogs >:)
So, this is something I'm INCREDIBLY glad I got an ask for, as Y/N's role is very plot relevant to the catalyst event of the fic. (In a way...)
To start off, you're actually half-right on the manager idea! In Chasing Stars, every Pizza-Plex employee is meant to have a 'supervisor' for the first month or so - the person they can go to for help or clarification instead of bothering upper management with their plebeian pleas. This supervisor is also meant to give the employee under them their welcoming tour, along with their uniform. The supervisor is always the most experienced (via time there worked) in the same position (ex. food staff, custodian, P&S) as the person they're supervising, and don't actually have much authority over them.
This is how things usually go, HOWEVER, when Y/N was accepted into their role as General Staff, there wasn't anyone else currently in that position (the previous ones 'left' rather quickly. Hm.) This resulted in them not receiving a supervisor, along with a stark lack of instructions. Sucks for them I guess!
But what sucks even more is that shortly after being hired, ANOTHER general staff member joins the team, and since Y/N is technically the most experienced General Staff member... They become her supervisor.
Who is this mysterious girl? Why, Vanessa A. of course!
Vanessa's nickname for the reader in the fic is 'Boss', and despite Y/N trying to correct her that: A. They have have literally no jurisdiction over her and B. That they're just as clueless as she is, she insists upon the name. Even after she gets put on Security duty due to [SPOILER], she keeps term for Y/N. (Interspersed with a more fond nickname that I shall not disclose yet).
Vanessa and the readers relationship is a significant and complicated one that's going to change a lot throughout the fic. In fact, I'd call it the second most important relationship in terms of plot/themes, after the DCA. But overall, I'd say they're... 'good friends'.
As for the last part of your question - which yeesh, sorry for the yap session - the role of General Staff is to do whatever odd jobs are left over after everyone is assigned their work, but more importantly, they can be called on by any animatronic or other staff member that happens to need help with their job. You can basically summon them like your personal butler. Of course, Sun and Moon abuse this ability to the extreme, which means that Y/N ends up working with them very often. (I mean, the daycare just gets so busy and we're so understaffed!! You understand, don't you? And- we finish the work so quick with YOUR help that you may as well stick around awhile longer, right? Management won't care about a few missing minutes... or hours. We won't tell if you don't :) )
(PS. CS! Vanessa's personality is very inspired by @/naffeclipse, because by god I love her interpretation of the character so much.)
EDIT: I don't consider any of this to be a spoiler btw! You learn all of this within the first 2-3 chapters :3
#sorry this took a minute I meant to reply yesterday but then took a 16 hour nap whoops#Also thank you for the compliment what the freak!???!?#I still got a lot to learn tho hehe#me when lighting :(#Grade A yap session#10 buried zero found#I am so damn excited to share the fic with yall my gosh#alt vanessa is real and coming for you#Afton sucked all the style out of her wtf :///#kapri answers#lore dump#chasing stars#chasing stars au#fnaf#fnaf security breach#moon fnaf#sun fnaf#daycare attendant#dca community#moon x reader#sun x reader#sun x y/n#moon x y/n#fnaf sun x reader#fnaf moon x reader#sundrop x reader#moondrop x reader#dca x reader#dca x y/n#daycare attendant x reader
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Preserving the great Zero Escape Ship Poll of 2020 for all of tumblr
#adding more in a reply since apparently I can only add 10 images at once#zero escape#zero escape spoilers#999#999 spoilers#vlr spoilers#vlr#ZTD#ztd spoilers
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hi idk if this has been said but . pls hear my vision… lindsay and noah platonic duo. brains and the beauty. noahs the brains. lindsays the beauty. noahs like “jeez this girl is dumb i cn manipulate her or smth” but then he starts warming up to her and they like paint eachothers nails and talk about boys or somthing idk please theyre besties trust 🤞
(also noah finally gets a makeover courtesy of lindsay)
I think I might've mentioned this exact duo before, though I may be wrong about that. Regardless, I've had Many A Thought about the potential dynamic between Lindsay "reclaiming bimbo as a term of empowerment" and Noah "could be god's biggest hater but was nerfed with an inability to GAF", to the point where I have a few drafts exploring this exact concept.
Through the lens of my eyes (blurry as it would be, my prescription fairly strong), I don't think Noah would ever consider manipulating Lindsay- at least, not in a similar manner to the likes of Heather or Alejandro. He's shown in canon to be pretty adverse to the idea. Why else would he make those comments about Alejandro in "I See London..."?
Not that he doesn't think about how easy it would be to use her. But his morality wins out over his scheming thoughts pretty quickly- no one wants to be New Heather, after all.
However, he's also shown a capacity to explore sneakier options of deception and trickery; pretending to pass out during the 20k run in The Big Sleep, trying to excuse his comment about Alejandro under the guise of it "being a compliment where he's from", tricking the Sasquatch with his fake ball throwing, getting himself eliminated on purpose in Dodgebrawl. I'm trying to think of other examples In Canon off the top of my head, but I'm coming up short since most of his actual speaking lines in the show are 'zingers' and 'witty one-liners' instead of actual character moments.
And we also know, from the way he treats Owen, that he's a lot more patient and indulgent towards the... 'slower' or 'simpler' contestants. He very rarely gets mad at Owen's mistakes- see how he gently chastises him in "Super Happy Crazy Fun Time Japan" when he's disturbing their set, he'd pretty much gentle parenting him, or how he doesn't even raise his voice against Owen after being blasted by nose-shake in "I See London...". You could argue that Owen just has best friend privileges, but given the way he also talks about his dog I think Noah just has a soft spot for happy-go-lucky, heart-of-gold, kind of stupid people (and blondes). Sound familiar?
Lindsay would fall under this umbrella of 'treat with kindness' because of this, but that doesn't mean he wouldn't try to subtly nudge her in the 'right direction'- out of Heather's and/or Alejandro's influence and into his own. For her own safety, of course.
Not that I think he'd even like Lindsay at first. The two of them are opposite ends of the social spectrum; I'd take a while for Lindsay to break through his snarky exterior, but I think eventually Noah would realise that she isn't the 'two-faced airhead popular girl' he'd assumed her to be and quickly warm up to her (she's airheaded, sure, but there's nothing two-faced or nefarious/mean-spirited about Lindsay). It's a classic case of "extrovert adopts introvert".
Meanwhile, Lindsay would be dead-set on breaking Noah out of his sour little shell. Either because she overhears Owen/Izzy/Eva explaining how Noah struggles to make friends because he's "very shy" and "mixes up his insults and his compliments", thus she assumes that, hey, Noah's made fun of her a few times, maybe that was just him trying to be friendly? So she makes it her mission to reciprocate his efforts and befriend him (much to Noah's initial suspicion, and begrudging appreciation).
Or she gets the concept of a 'gay best friend' stuck in her head (an impressive feat, getting anything stuck in such a vacant space /j) probably from watching too many high school teen dramas, and sees Noah as the ideal candidate since he pretty much embodies most of the stereotypical GBF traits; a sassy twink who's defining characteristic is making snarky comments. If Noah ever caught wind of this, he'd either be mortified by the concept and avoid Lindsay like the plague until she'd eventually hunt him down, or he'd think the whole concept is too funny to pass up and gladly play the part- if only for his own amusement. (Personally I headcanon him as bi, but he's so canonically queer coded that he fits the stereotype anyway.)
Which is all just a long-winded way of me saying I think Lindsay would kindle the friendship without giving Noah much of a choice (again, extrovert adopting introvert) and Noah would just go along with it, being the lazy guy he is, and quickly grow fond/protective over her.
If he and Owen are the golden retriever and black cat dynamic, Noah and Lindsay are an afghan hound and a black cat; Noah has a lot of black cat energy (that's just a given) and you cannot tell me that Lindsay isn't an afghan hound- they're pretty, gentle-natured and renown for their low intelligence.
Plus, Lindsay's capacity for meanness (as unintentional as it may be) would be comedy gold to Noah. He'd encourage her to keep that sharp tongue and steel spine, if not for his own entertainment, then to ensure she doesn't become someone else's doormat again. In return, Lindsay would bring out a softer side of Noah, likely a result of her reminding him of his several older sisters.
She'd absolutely abuse her 'soft Noah' privileges too by roping him in on sleepovers where the two of them gossip and paint each other's nails (Noah's against the idea at first but Lindsay hits him with the puppy eyes and he folds like a lawn chair), eventually leading to Lindsay giving Noah a much needed glow up. He finds himself enjoying the pampering- though he'd never admit it- and Lindsay's just ecstatic that she has someone to use as a dress-up doll (Tyler wouldn't let her give him another makeover after Paris).
#i have a lot of thoughts about the beauty&brains duo#this would also be why lindsay calls tyler 'noah' in wt btw. she's mixing up her bf and her gbf. doesn't help that they both--#have long-ish brown hair and wear red (she's face blind give my girl a break 😭)#this ended up longer than i anticipated. again. at this point i should stop assuming i'll give short responses.#the brainrot cannot be contained. i am patient zero.#anyway THANK YOU FOR THE ASK please feed me more b&b content. it fuels me.#total drama#td lindsay#td noah#silly headcanons#character analysis#⬅ kind of? a little bit#replies#long post
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hi jam, what actually happened in 2012/2013? i got into the phandom in 2020, so i guess i just never fully understood? of course no worries if you don’t want to bring it up for whatever reason. (:
hi anon! i am always happy to discuss dan and phil history (editing to add: you can check out my tag on that here), especially since i've been around for long enough to have seen a Lot of it. the biggest factor is that dan and phil were outed in 2012; i have written about that before here.
i would reccomend rewatching dan's mental health series of videos (meaning of life, something i'm forgetting, daniel and depression, trying to live my truth) + BIG with the additional understanding that being outed at that point had a catastrophic impact on dan's mental health, especially considering his past traumas.
there were a lot of other reasons 2012 and 2013 were bad, some of which we knew at the time and some that we didn't.
dan's younger brother started to have social media, and fans were harassing him for information/pretending to be friends with him to get information/bullying him. that's something dan shut down HARD.
dan's grandma was also on twitter around this time iirc? so there was a very real chance he could've been outed to his family if someone had decided to cross the line in the worst way they could.
dan and phil had moved to london in 2012 without being able to afford it and without being sure they would get the bbc radio 1 jobs. so they were also under stupid amounts of financial stress while also adjusting to life in a new city when all of this happened.
2013 is also the year phil's dad was diagnosed with cancer. that's something that phil never shared until 2019 in his draw my life 2, but that's such a scary and overwhelming thing to be dealing with!
all at the same time!
the radio show era is also a time when dan and phil were so busy with projects and opportunities and saying yes to everything that it very, very clearly had a negative impact on them, which is something they have mentioned a number of times.
they were dealing with the transition into proper fame, too. i don't have enough toughts to gather about that but i'm sure someone else can speak to what that was like. a lot of youtubers of their original era left the platform at that that time due to the everything.
so. short answer. 2012-2013 was one of the most intense, overwhelming and difficult periods we know of in dan and phil's lives for so many reasons, even without factoring in the fact that they were outed. which also happened then.
they did not, in fact, have a difficult 2012 because people posted smut of them and they accidentally saw it. dan had already mentioned reading fic about himself on purpose at that point in time.
#jam replies#anon#jam posts#history#phan#2012#quite honestly the fact that someone said 2012 happened bc of smut fic is like. making me so mad it hurts my stomach.#it feels like that's making light of the actual events at that time and is also using that time as a weapon to silence someone else with#zero care for what ACTUALLY contributed to the situation or how it effected dnp OR how it effected fans & fan culture#like. it's just genuinely so off the mark i'm mad about it.
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