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supernaturaldrafts · 4 days ago
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Dean is going to be on trial soon. What do you think is the one issue he feels guiltiest about? - video He’s got a laundry list of things that he feels guilty about, which plays into the whole storyline of why he feels the way he does. There’s the responsibility of his brother and having to watch over him, and feeling like he’s letting him down all the time. Now there’s the whole Cas issue. He didn’t get to him in time, he wasn’t able to help him out, to save him. It’s a mound of guilt that has built up on Dean’s shoulders that he carries around with him.
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supernaturaldrafts · 10 days ago
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Misha at Heaven in Hell Paris in 2010, on 4x03, “In The Beginning”
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supernaturaldrafts · 12 days ago
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How much do we see Castiel in season 7 and what will his role be? [x]
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supernaturaldrafts · 12 days ago
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In the post about cockles, what was the thing that Jensen got fed up about with Sera? Thanks!
Hey Nonnie,
I’m thinking you mean this post from the vault with a compilation of Cockles moments through around 2014? I was so happy to see these again because I had legitimately forgotten about some of them in light of more recent events. 
The gif from SDCC 2011 where Jensen is frustrated with Sera is from when the moderated asked her how much they could expect to see Castiel this season. Everyone at the table knows full well at that point that Cas dies, supposedly for good, in the first episode of the season. And they. are. pissed. It’s not just Jensen, though he’s a little more obvious about it. This ask actually sent me back to watching the full panel:
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This is the link  and you can watch another version that’s lower in quality and focusing on the faces of 2 people at a time (mostly J2) in case you want facial reactions. The discussion of Cas starts with the second question–after they ask Jensen about directing his episode–and is about 3 minutes in. It’s painful. You can watch Misha try to figure out how to answer a question about playing a role that he no longer has and that (at this point) had no future on the show. He does an admirable job and even manages to seem somewhat upbeat. Not so J2. 
The way everyone is sitting at this table isolates Sera and the body language from Jared and Jensen is openly hostile. Jensen especially pushes himself as far away as possible, defensively crosses his arms, leans away, doesn’t make any eye contact. Jared is also pissed and is functionally shielding Misha with his body while he does the first Cas question. Both of them are very protective and Jensen is more than a little hostile. They also both keep egging the audience on in their love for Cas/Misha, as when Jensen shouts “YEAH!” in affirmation of audience shrieks about the character. They want to show Sera what a piss poor decision it was to take Misha away from the fans…and from them. Whatever else you see happening these are some amazing friends.  
The other end of the table is also deadly silent and still–nary a crack from Mark and Edlund’s body language has him screaming that he wishes he had no part in this…he practically puts his head in his hands. (Edlund did an incredible job of writing Cas and I can only imagine how much it hurt to see him being killed off after all that.) 
To answer your initial question, his response is to Sera saying fundamentally nothing about whether the audience can expect to see Cas this season. Here’s the whole thing:
Moderator: Sera, it’s a loaded question but I have to ask: how much might we see Castiel in this season? What is his role in the season going on
Sera: You guys don’t really want to know how much you see Castiel or how much you see Misha. Well, Eric, I’m glad you asked. You know, we’ve been getting this question more or less every minute of every day since people started to hear about the change in Castiel. And the reality of this is that we want to tell you everything we can tell you about Misha because we love Misha as much as you do. And we want to tell you everything we can tell you about Castiel because we adore the character, as you do. But, I mean, you saw the cliffhanger; it was very cliffhanger-y. So, we want you to tune in and be anticipatory and we can’t say past what you know–which is that he’s going to be in the first couple of episodes. So, watch those and then bug us about it again and we’ll tell you a little more.
Jensen: Wow, that was really informative. Thank you.
Sera: I’m not answering the question but I’m explaining why I’m not answering the question. Does that help a little?
What’s remarkable about this clip is that Jensen is usually extraordinarily controlled in an interview situations (and, especially early on, also at cons) because he’s a professional who knows how to do PR and knows how vital it is. SDCC is the biggest publicity event they do in terms of numbers and profile. This is fucking it. And he’s shifting around in his chair, rocking it back, chugging water, rubbing his throat, grimacing, shaking his head, flashing the Dimples of Discontent, and actually rolling his eyes at the very end when she responds to what he said. Just. WOW.
Say it’s Cockles or not but that’s a very angry Jensen. And, again, he’s not the only one. Everyone at that table is pissed as fuck at Sera and you can tell because they will not help her out, pick up any slack, make any jokes. And Mark! Let’s talk about Mark. He responds to the question about his role in S7 by saying “Oh! I’m in Season 7! Yes!…Sera, what am I going to be doing?” and she says he’s being disingenuous and that he does know. And then (oh God, I cringe) he says in faux-sincerity, “It’s been an awful lot of fun to see what’s happened thus far and I’m really looking forward to seeing what happens this year.” Yeah, sounds nice. Until you realize that he means, subtextually, “I’m really looking forward to watching you crash and burn without Misha.” You can tell he doesn’t mean it in a happy way because no one cheers or claps. 
The mood is somber. The whole panel is somber. The audience mood is dampened considerably from the start and the people on that panel aren’t having any fun with it. Jensen barely speaks at all and there’s almost none of the J2M2 clowning that usually goes into these things. And, remember, this is their biggest publicity event of the year. If it sets the tone then it’s little surprise that S7 almost got the show canceled.
I know that’s not your original ask, Nonnie, but I hope it’s ok that I took some time to delve into this. It’s far enough back that I wasn’t watching the show as it aired and that I haven’t reached into the archive for it. But actually in its weird, depressing way this whole panel is a love letter to Misha from everyone there who isn’t Sera. I tend also to focus on Jensen because he’s uncharacteristically, almost unprofessionally, upset but this time the group anger and protectiveness is what struck me. They are all united in hating this bad decision. And since we know it works out–Misha is back, Cas is back, the series continues now TWICE as long as when this panel happened–we can now marvel at it as a piece of fandom (and Cockles) history.
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supernaturaldrafts · 2 months ago
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@austrecanare  this is the video I meant.  Sorry about the quality, so it predates my tumblr days.  But apparently they tried to get rid of this.
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supernaturaldrafts · 2 months ago
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Jensen declaring his love for Misha.
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supernaturaldrafts · 2 months ago
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“I love you, Misha. I-I-I mean, honestly, it’s, you know, from the bottom of my heart that I say that… seriously, it’s not stopping.”
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supernaturaldrafts · 2 months ago
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supernaturaldrafts · 2 months ago
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100th episode featurette
Jensen: Misha, we're missing the gay angel here.
Misha: You mean 'gay' like 'happy' right?
Jensen: Yeah, like 'happy'.
Jensen: *Looks Into The Camera Like He's On The Office*
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supernaturaldrafts · 2 months ago
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misha collins first instinct when coming on spn literally being "i'm gonna make it gay" [x]
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supernaturaldrafts · 2 months ago
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Misha and Julie McNiven at Collectormania London 2009. Fragment of their panel that starts at 24:40 (audio file of the whole panel can be downloaded here):
Fan: Hi Misha, my question is for you and I heard from reliable sources that you read DeanCas slash? (strangely there wasn't a groan, there was just a bit of laughter) Misha: Once in a chain an obligatory slash fic question. (to Julie) Do you know about it? Do you know what it is? Julie: No, you didn't told me. Misha: So apparently… Hold on, I got to explain this. So apparently there is a thing, there is a phenomenon where, I guess all of these people… write fan fiction, which is- Julie: Yeah I started to read one of these- Misha: The slash fic? Julie: I didn't see the slash. There was one, yeah. Misha: Do you also- do you write this stuff yourself? Julie: Actually I do. I comment plenty a day. All of you. Misha: Oh, ok. I will look for your handle. What is your screen name or whatever. No. Julie: I wouldn't [unintelligible]. Misha: What was the one that you've read? Julie: Oh, I stopped reading it when I got to the point where… Where there was Anna, Cas and Dean at the dinner table and… and there was someone's hand reaching over and… and I just stopped. [here Misha and Julie are saying a few unintelligible words] Misha: It's funny. It's only like, you rely on your sources that are very unreliable. Somehow along the line I developed a reputation, being an addict slash fic reader. So everyone thinks that I'm, you know, I'm the number one fan out there. I stared also reading one slash fic story. And I stopped… [unintelligible] when was- I think it was like, Cas is choking on someone's cock. But whatever, same [unintelligible] you. But apparently it's a big thing and anytime someone mentions it, at conventions, because someone always does, it happens an instant "ugh. no! don't do it!", because it's a dirty thing- it's like a dirty laundry getting aired or whatever. Anyway.
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supernaturaldrafts · 2 months ago
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How does Castiel really feel about Dean?
Misha: “I’m not complaining about how you asked the question… I’m just saying to the untrained eye it could have appeared to be innocuous and not a strange homoerotic— um, you know I still only read part of one slash fic. Don’t talk about it? See there’s a line, right? There’s a line and you’re crossing it right now… don’t! It’s gonna upset some people in this room if we talk about it.. so don’t upset these poor people! What will they do? The only thing I was going to say is that it does exist, lets face reality here and that apparently there’s a sub section, of um, Dean/Cas/pie… Haven’t read it. Probably not going to. I know it haunts the back of my mind knowing that it exists.”
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supernaturaldrafts · 2 months ago
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it's amazing that supernatural went on for as long as it did when this is how jared was talking about it in 2009. "i don't have a life", "it's a huge contract", "they tricked us in the beginning" (source)
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readingeagle - "'Supernatural' actor Misha Collins is the new angel on the block"
December 14, 2008
Someone must have made a deal with the devil.
Defying the laws of television, which stipulate that series peak early and gradually dwindle, the CW horror series "Supernatural," now in its fourth season, is enjoying a ratings surge and all signs point to a renewal for a fifth year.
Much of the credit goes to series creator/executive producer Eric Kripke, who has crafted the series' current, supremely watchable Heaven vs. Hell/apocalypse-in-the-making story lines, and to stars Jared Padalecki and Jensen Ackles, who play Sam and Dean Winchester, the intrepid brothers who crisscross the country in their 1967 Chevy Impala, battling the forces of evil in all its many incarnations.
But there's also an unexpected gift from above: Castiel (Misha Collins), the handsome, trench-coat-sporting angel who earlier this season plucked Dean from Hell and who, with his partner Uriel (Robert Wisdom), continues to keep an eye on the Winchester boys. The character has become a fan favorite, and Collins will stick around far beyond the six episodes for which he initially signed on.
"I'm totally flabbergasted," Collins says. "I had no intimation that there would be any kind of reaction like this at all. I just thought it would be another recurring guest-star spot that would fade away real quick. But the fan reaction has been huge and - this is big news - if the show gets picked up for a fifth season, they're going to make me a regular on the show.
"And I think that's in large part due to the fan reaction, which has been really amazingly supportive and somewhat obsessive."
So is Castiel a good guy in a bad situation or a bad guy trying to avert a fatal fall? Collins, who at 34 has a list of credits that includes guest shots on "Charmed" (1999) and "Without a Trace" (2007), a recurring role as a Serbian assassin on "24" (2002) and a part in the romantic comedy/fantasy "Over Her Dead Body" (2008), votes for the former possibility.
"I would like to think that Castiel is a good guy in a bad situation," Collins says, speaking by cell telephone from Brooklyn, where he's visiting friends. "I'm not entirely informed as to what his future holds for him, but that's what I'm working with internally.
"I think that what's going on is that Heaven is not such a perfect place," he continues, "that it's not as perfect as we'd all like to imagine, and that there are a lot of bureaucratic machinations going on and sacrifices that have to be made along the way. I think the ends justify the means in the heavenly bureaucracy, and Castiel is not always necessarily happy with that.
"I could be totally wrong, but I think he's a good guy."
Castiel's personality and his relationships with Sam and Dean, as well as with Uriel, continue to evolve, much to Collins' satisfaction.
"In my mind Castiel is starting to develop an admiration for Dean and the stance that Dean seems to stake out as he goes along," Collins says. "And I have been sent as something of a protector of Dean. I mean, I rescued him from Hell.
"I think that Sam is a bit of a wild card in the eyes of the heavenly authorities," the actor says. "I think that we see him as being either a potentially great ally or a serious liability, and we're not really sure how that's going to play out in the end.
"Uriel, I think he's much more militant and more dogmatic than Castiel," Collins concludes, "and I don't frankly think that we get along that well, but we're sort of forced to work together.
"These are definitely subjective interpretations, but that's what I think."
Now that it's clear that Castiel will be sticking around awhile, Collins sees plenty of room for growth in the character.
After all, the new angel in town hasn't been in the company of flesh-and-blood mortals for more than 2,000 years.
– Ian Spelling, readingeagle.com
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movieweb - "EXCLUSIVE: Misha Collins Gets Angelic in Supernatural"
Sep 23, 2008
The newest cast member of the smash-hit CW series talks about his new role, working with Jared and Jensen and yet another angel down the road
When the fourth season of the immensely-popular series Supernatural hit the CW airwaves last Thursday, viewers were treated to a demonic/angellic new character, that turned out to be more the latter than the former. This new character is Castiel, an angel who was the one who pulled Dean out of hell and was sent down by the Lord to aid in the adventures of Dean and Sam Winchester. The actor who portrays this intriguiing new character is Misha Collins and I just recently had a chance to talk to the latest Supernatural cast member over the phone. Here's what he had to say.
You played a pivotal role in the season premiere last week. How did you originally come across this role of Castiel?
Misha Collins: I came across it when my agent sent me an audition for a demon on Supernatural earlier this summer. I had an episode of Supernatural Tivoed and I watched it and I saw a demon and I saw that he was kind of snarky and nasty, as we would expect a demon to be. So, I went in and I auditioned for (creator) Eric Kripke and I gave him a very nasty and snarky performance (Laughs). He said 'Great work, except, we are trying to hide from the fans that we're introducing an angel to the show, so we sent out the audition material as a demon, so it's actually an angel.' So he gave me a couple of adujustments to try to make me a little bit less snarky and more angellic and, evidently he liked me because I got the part.
So you hadn't followed the show previously before signing on?
Misha Collins: I had seen the show previously, but I had not been an avid follower of the show. I thought it was good, but I'm not a very good television watcher. I'm not very good at keeping up with the show. It seems like Supernatural is one of those shows where it's much better if you watch it all.
Since he says he's been sent from the Lord, would it be safe to assume that the Lord has been keeping tabs on Dean and Sam then, and sent you down to help them along?
Misha Collins Yes, definitely. Yeah, God is definitely keeping tabs on Sam and Dean, which is probably a lot of pressure, if you think about it. You know, if God is watching your every move, you should probably straighten up your act a little bit.
You said that Eric (Kripke) gave you some adjustments to your character, but what kinds of things do you do to get into the character of Castiel?
Misha Collins: Well, one of the things that I've done is I have been reading Revelations. Have you ever read Revalations?
A long time ago.
Misha Collins: Yeah. It's amazing, rich material that is full of stories about angels and angels being sent down to Earth to wipe out a third of the population. I mean, there are angels that come down and wipe out a third of the population and then another angel will come down and wipe out a third of all the animals living in the sea and another angel will come down and wipe out all the vegetation on the land. They are some vengeful individules, in Revelations, the angels. In reading that, I was kind of surprised. There is a lot of destructive capacity in an angel's being. Kripke gave me a couple of things to work with right in that audition and one was that the angels haven't actually come down to Earth for 2000 years. They've been watching from a great distance, but now this is the first time they're really getting up close in 2000 years. When I'm talking to Dean, I'm observing these qualities that are somewhat alien to me. There's a curiosity and an inquisitiveness that Castiel has and also a real peacefulness and a real calm and wisdom and knowledge that goes along with being a very ancient being. If you spend your whole life in heaven, I would think that it makes you pretty peaceful, so that's a lot of what I've drawn on. My younger brother, this is going to sound kind of weird, but there's something quite angellic about him. He has this way of, very calmly, just staring into someone's eyes and it kind of feels like he can get into your soul. It's a little weird and really kind of amazing so I did kind of base my character on my younger brother.
Oh, wow. That's interesting. So, we don't really get a whole lot about Castiel in the first episode. He's an angel and he doesn't doesn't really affect mortals too well, with their eyes if they look at him.
Misha Collins: Right.
Is there anything that you can tell us that we might see from him down the road in the season?
Misha Collins: Yeah, I guess I can tell you that I'm not going to be the only angel on the show. Muriel is another angel that is going to come down as well. Muriel, he's a much more militant angel and one who is much more eager to stamp out the human communities. Yeah, he's the vengeful, smiting type. Also, my character is somewhat conflicted and not quite as sure of himself as maybe he initially was presented.
So do you and Muriel cancel each other out, or play the balancing of the forces?
Misha Collins Yeah, well there's a conflict between Muriel and I.
I've interviewed Jared (Padalecki) before and both he and Jensen (Ackles) seem like they'd be a riot to work with on this series. How have they both been to work with and how did they embrace you coming into the show?
Misha Collins: They're great to work with. They both have unusually good timing with humor, so there's a lot of sarcasm and witty quips being bantered about on the set, which, I'll tell you, makes working a hell of a lot better. They're not primadonnas… well, if they are primadonnas, they haven't shown me that side yet. They seem like very cool, very fun, very energetic, hard-working guys. They put in long hours on that show, they really do. I've been on shows where the star of the show is like rolling their eyes the whole time and totally frustrated that it's taking a long time and bored out of their minds and spend the whole time on set texting their boyfriend on their Blackberry and just had such a really bad tone for the set. Jared and Jensen, and (director) Kim Manners and the other directors working on the show, they're all really good people to work with, which is unusual and very gratifying and makes it a much better experience than it could be.
I read that you are on for the remainder of this season. Is this kind of like a recurring role or are they talking about a series regular, at some point, for this character?
Misha Collins: I don't know whether they're talking series regular for my character, but that's a good idea. You should maybe recommend that to them.
Absolutely. So can you give us a glimpse of how much you'll be in this season? Will you be in every episode?
Misha Collins: No, I'm not in every episode. It seems to me that the show kind of does this little dance between episodes that are pretty well self-contained. There are episodes where Jared and Jensen take on a particular thing that, within that episode, it's a pretty contained arc and you don't really need to know a whole lot of backstory in order for it to make sense. Then there are episodes that are continuing a broader, more epic storyling and it seems that I'm not so much in those self-contained episodes but in the episodes that are carrying that through-arc. So far, I've been in a little over half of the episodes we've shot.
You've appeared in some very high-profile series' in your career like 24, ER and many others. How has your experience on Supernatural been similar or different to those kinds of shows?
Misha Collins: Well, like I said, I think some of those shows have been less welcoming and less easy to fit into as the new kid at school coming to join a show. Some episodic television - 24 and ER are not examples of that - but there are some episodic television shows that are pretty formulaic and it feels like the series regulars are doing the same thing every episode and you can just feel their boredom. Supernatural is not one of those shows. Supernatural feels like there's always something new happening and the actors and the crew all have interesting things to work on so there's a level of commitment, artistic commitment and excitement on the set that is nice to be around and is a lot better than a lot of other shows that I've been on. It's a happy cast and crew, too. A lot of times there's a surliness that goes on behind the scenes that's not present on Supernatural, which is really great. Aside from that, it's shot in Vancouver and I've been shooting up in Vancouver in summer and early fall, which is pretty much the nicest place to be in summer and early fall, so that also. Maybe talk to me again in February and we'll see how upbeat I am about it.
I know it's only been a few days since the season premiere, but have you been noticed anywhere as Castiel yet?
Misha Collins: Yes, I have.
You have? Already?
Misha Collins: Yeah. I'm building a garden at my house and I was at a local nursery yesterday and two women who were buying palm trees came up to me and said, 'Are you the new angel?' They were really enthusiastic, incredibly sweet and I was kind of taken aback, but I was also kind of thrilled.
I know the show is immensely popular, but I know it has only been a few days so I was kind of curious to see if it happened already.
Misha Collins: Yeah, and I haven't actually been out much in the last couple of days, so yeah, I don't know. I feel like, in talking to you and talking to a couple of other people I've had interviews with, it sounds like there's a big reaction and a lot of people know about my character, which is kind of a surprise to me. I didn't realize that was happening, so, cool. I love it.
So I don't see any future projects listed for you. Is there anything that you're eyeing up, post-Supernatural
Misha Collins: There's an episode of Nip/Tuck that is coming up that I've shot. I think that there's another independent feature that hasn't been released yet, that I've shot as well, but yeah, Nip/Tuck is coming up and that's very (Laughs) a very different role. It's a decidingly un-PG role and very much not the behavior of an angel I will be exhibiting in Nip/Tuck. I have another role, I mean, it's a movie that's available at Blockbuster that I did not too long ago called Karla, where I'm portraying a real-life serial killer, which is also not like an angel.
Finally, you've worked in some huge network TV shows, and with Mad Men making history last week, it seems that the momentum is starting to shift to these smaller networks. Do you think that Supernatural is one of those shows that can push the momentum forward in the future?
Misha Collins: Well, (the CW) is definitely not one of the Big 3. Yeah, I think that the bigger networks are definitely seeing their market share dwindle because of networks like CW and Fox and F/X and all of the smaller cable networks, HBO and Showtime, they're all doing more innovative stuff. I think that this show is actually pushing the envelope a little bit for broadcast television, definitely. It's got a different feel, a darkness that you don't see in a lot of broadcast TV. Heroes, or something like that, seems a little more campy to me. This feels gritty and captivating and I think that they're doing great work on the show. I'm really happy with it.
Well, that's about all I have for you. Thanks so much for your time today, Misha, and I'm looking forward to see what you have coming up in this season.
Misha Collins: Thank you for your time.
– Brian Gallagher, movieweb.com
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