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"byler endgame"

And then s4 literally starts with Mike having heart eyes foe the letter El wrote him

"mileven endgame"

And then s4 literally ends with mike telling el he loves her based on a lie, el not talking to him afterward, and mike reaching out to touch will and them agreeing to be a team

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I’m telling you, we’ve talked to everyone. Nope. Not everyone. Stranger Things Volume Four Chapter Two: “Vecna’s Curse”

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PROTECTIVE MIKE WHEELER HUH

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And no, they are not talking abt Will in that scene, if all, its about Dustin. Sl Mike says that person is angry, but Noah says Will always finds the positive side of things

please tell me this is a joke I cannot 😭

you're so right fr. will needs to have a smile on his face at all times. he's not allowed to be angry. you're being possessed by an evil force trying to kill everyone and everything you love? turn that frown upside down 👏😃✨

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Remember, you're the heart. Just keep going, Finn!

(And let a spoiler escape from your mouth, please).

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things to ask finn at the panel to get him to leak provide insight into byler that aren't directly about byler

what is mike's internal conflict like this season?

what about mike has changed from the previous season to this one?

some fans think mike has acted out of character the previous season(s). will the upcoming one provide insight into why?

what do you think fans will think about mike's ending?

in what ways will the new season return to season 1/season 2 themes?

how did the season 4 california plotline impact mike going into season 5?

how will mike address his relationships and the way the ended in the previous season in season 5?

what do you think will surprise viewers most about the upcoming season?

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i’m never getting over the one way sign in mikes room POINTING TO HIS CLOSET like HOW WOULD THAT MEAN ANYTHING ELSE 😭😭😭😭😭

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Byler doubt?

This isn’t even about bad writing

Will is one of the characters the Duffers care the most.

They didn’t give Will a place in the main plot in two seasons for a reason.

They said it themselves after s2, Will should be away from the Upside Down drama for a while.

He should just have a normal life as a kid, with his own struggles while growing up.

It was on purpose, they wanted to give him a break, at least a break from Henry and the MF.

And guess who is the one that leads the party when Will is in danger?

Ofc is Mike.

So, as Will is in the “side line” Mike is kind of too.

They were always a team, their dynamics in the story take the same amount depending of each other.

It’s not the same with the other characters.

So, it’s kind of logic that now, the story will get even better for them, if Will is in the spotlight, so is Mike.

And with the feelings they have now, it would be weird they don’t get to be together.

Their slowburn was specially for this moment.

I don’t know how it will be resolved in general, but I do know (I’m actually pretty sure) that Will and Mike’s scenes were beautifully shot. The dialogues, the cinematography, everything.

Now that is almost exposed to the audience, the directors will go crazy with them.

So, the real question is

Are you guys ready for Byler happening?

Cuz I’m not 😆

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clicking a pen over and over again is actually fun as fuck its a shame it makes everyone in a 30 foot radius want to kill me with a rock

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i love you purple i love you lavender i love you lilac i love you wisteria i love you violet i love you mauve i love you periwinkle i love you amethyst i love you

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I got to hold a 500,000 year old hand axe at the museum today.

It's right-handed

I am right-handed

There are grooves for the thumb and knuckle to grip that fit my hand perfectly

I have calluses there from holding my stylus and pencils and the gardening tools.

There are sharper and blunter parts of the edge, for different types of cutting, as well as a point for piercing.

I know exactly how to use this to butcher a carcass.

A homo erectus made it

Some ancestor of mine, three species ago, made a tool that fits my hand perfectly, and that I still know how to use.

Who were you

A man? A woman? Did you even use those words?

Did you craft alone or were you with friends? Did you sing while you worked?

Did you find this stone yourself, or did you trade for it? Was it a gift?

Did you make it for yourself, or someone else, or does the distinction of personal property not really apply here?

Who were you?

What would you think today, seeing your descendant hold your tool and sob because it fits her hands as well?

What about your other descendant, the docent and caretaker of your tool, holding her hands under it the way you hold your hands under your baby's head when a stranger holds them.

Is it bizarre to you, that your most utilitarian object is now revered as holy?

Or has it always been divine?

Or is the divine in how I am watching videos on how to knap stone made by your other descendants, learning by example the way you did?

Tomorrow morning I am going to the local riverbed in search of the appropriate stones, and I will follow your example.

The first blood spilled on it will almost certainly be my own, as I learn the textures and rhythm of how it's done.

Did you have cuss words back then? Gods to blaspheme when the rock slips and you almost take your thumbnail off instead? Or did you just scream?

I'm not religious.

But if spilling my own blood to connect with a stranger who shared it isn't partaking in the divine

I don't know what is.

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do the facts that mike's room is blue and will's room is yellow and mike is usually in blue clothes and will is usually in tan/yellow clothes and mike has been under blue lights and will under yellow ones hit you like a fucking truck and you become a mess all over again like. yeah. mike is blue and will is yellow

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will looking at mike, season 2 episode 2.

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One-sided love stories don't have shared looks.

They don't have two-shots. They aren't a duo. They don't face the world together. They certainly don't match each other's energy one on one.

If Mike didn't have feelings for Will they wouldn't already be framed as a duo. It almost feels in-anticipation.

Either friendship is prioritized over romance or it is the romance. But you can't have a one-sided romance prioritized over a reciprocated romance. It's either two-side, no-sided, or you make the unreciprocated character the casual third wheel.

Deny it as they try, Mike and Will are not friends. I'm not saying Mike has feelings for Will, but narratively, what they are is not friends. They are an unreciprocated romance. That is what they are. And those are not framed as duos.

One-sided love stories don't have shared looks. One-sided love stories are not prioritized over a character's reciprocated one.

So what is this

And they went above and beyond. Not only should Byler not have this in the first place if there is any inkling of romance on either side, Mike and El should, but they don't. I can't come up with a time when they have had a two-shot reaction.

The best I've got is this.

And Will is present. The camera actively avoiding making him a third wheel. This isn't even a shared look. El looks at Will.

Well, no, to be fair, they have some when they are the only ones present.

Also, here is an example of a joint reaction between friends:

They agree on what they're feeling in this moment, and they agree on what they are.

Mike and Will agree on what they are.

Mike and El do not.

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While we're on how "unreciprocated" duos shouldn't match each other's energy, let's also talk about how "reciprocated" duos should.

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I loved reading the Byler slides as much as the next guy, but my only gripe about it is how Mike is said to be using El as his beard from day one. I think some Bylers skip over the connection that Mike and El have, because they do have one, even if it isn't romantic.

They've been bonded together by trauma and Mike (in my opinion) was pressured into beginning a romantic relationship with her because he's a boy, and she's a girl.

Me personally, I don't think either of them really have romantic feelings for the other. El maybe, but I still feel it was a relationship built off of societal pressures and being too young to really understand.

My overall point is, I don't think Mike used El as his beard, but rather is in the relationship because of his own comphet. He sees the relationship as what he ''should'' be doing so the feelings that he is feeling must just be normal, right?

The end of season 3 is his ''oh'' moment for me. When El tells him that she loves him and kisses him, I think that's when he realised, ''Yeah I should... probably be feeling something right now. And I'm not. Oh.'' And, without El in Hawkins to remind him what he ''should'' be, he's able to be himself a little bit more. Grow out his hair, be an outcast, the whole shebang.

Again, all my personal opinion, but I am a firm comphet Mike truther. :))