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Jack saying these hurtful words to Joke, telling him to basically disappear from his life. Joke took the words to heart. Nevermind that these were said at the heat of the moment. Because, Joke had always believed that he is never good for Jack or for anyone—that he’s just a stain on everyone’s life bringing bad luck.

When Jack finally calmed—well as calm as he can be—Hope’s words gotten through to him just a tad. He cried for Joke, cried for the way they left things, cried for missing him, and maybe, cried for the hurtful things he said to Joke.

As we see the next day with the little gang, Jack’s reaction to Joke’s name when Hoy mentions him, is the kind who isn’t as mad as the first time. More like a mix of feelings. Annoyed that Joke is known to be the king of heist, annoyed he’s not there, annoyed that it’s most likely his fault. But maybe, part of him is relieved bc Joke won’t be in trouble anymore if he stayed away. Regardless, Jack truly underestimated Boss. Because as we can see, Boss knew to take Jack’s ultimate weakness. Because it’s not just grandma anymore, it’s Joke that has Jack’s whole heart.

We got a moment with Joke and grandma, he was so happy to see her only to remind them both that he’s not there to come back and stay. And catch his words, he asked for Ama to only tell Jack the words he wanted to say, only if Jack himself ever asks for him. He didn’t even try begging Ama to tell Jack and ask to reconcile, which he knew Ama would absolutely do. But rather, he’s giving the space Jack needs. Totally different when he first came out of prison asking for forgiveness. He’s giving Jack the space to breathe, to swallow what’s happening, all the while thanking him for everything—the things he wanted to tell Jack that from the beginning, Jack had Joke’s heart already. That he took Joke’s smile and made it for the world to see. That he was the reason Joke was ever truly happy. Joke’s only sorry that for being happy, he had to take away Jack’s smile many times.

Ama’s words “Fate is funny isn’t it? You gave Jack’s freedom in exchange of never seeing him again.” And she’s right.

Though, in Jack & Joke’s minds, this is the freedom that Jack wanted. But it’s not. Joke disappearing would not be Jack’s freedom. However, Joke doesn’t know that. Joke only ever believed he took it away. And in some parts, yes, but he was also the one to give it.

Joke didn’t know Jack would go to the ends of the earth to find him. That Jack didn’t even hesitate to believe Ama when she says he needs to save Joke.

Because if he truly felt that Joke was not worth his love, he wouldn’t be as upset and full of rage to go in a trap just to save him.

That Joke may believe disappearing for good would give everyone, Jack, a better life. But Jack would only dig the graves deeper for each body responsible to ever hurt Joke.

Jack may not have realized just how much his words affected Joke. He may have wanted to wait till they cool off, then come find Joke to talk but the world doesn’t ever give them the break. He may have said the words, but his heart still sees Joke as his boyfriend. Much said when he gives Carbon the kick he deserves for punching Joke right in front of Jack.

And at this, we may see Joke realizing that maybe they were both too haste in their actions trying to make each other feel better, apologizing & forgiving all the same. It was just one day, but it clearly felt like a lifetime to Joke, if he thought he should just say goodbye for good. But Jack proves him wrong as he came trying to save him. And even before that when he says he has to fix things at home. He has to fix what he broke with Joke.

It’s such a rollercoaster of emotions. One day Joke thought he had his future panned out, the next he has to leave his newfound family and disappear, and in another snap, his Jack is claiming him once again.

But isn’t that the beauty of this romance?

Reality isn’t as smooth sailing.

Joke & Jack’s love has been built with loops from fate trying to unravel for them to settle. They’ve yet to uncover what really makes them fated, and they have to work on that.

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Jack telling Save he has to go home because he has to fix things.

I do believe Jack was gonna go home and reconcile with Joke. Either he knew that Joke was going to visit Ama, or he would ask Ama for advise how to fix things with Joke. With the way he hurt Joke, he knew he was gonna have to reach out first & knows he has to reach out first. Jack was regretful.

But not as regretful as when he heard that Joke was taken.

He didn’t have the chance to make things right. And Joke, who probably might die, might die believing that Jack never wanted to see him again. That what Jack said was the truth. That he may die believing Jack didn’t love him.

Jack was out to put that to rest, and save him, all the while letting Joke know he’s indeed love. And to bring him back home.

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Why is there so much hate in the jack and joker tag fellas yk you can just turn it off if you don't like the show that much

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Oh~~ The Spaces Between Us~~

I had many thoughts watching ep.11 and absorbing how great it fucking was but one scene caught my attention.

This one right here:

I've noticed @almayver talking about the one between Tattoo and Jack but not the other one, the one between Save and Hope. I wanna address both.

1) The Space Between Tattoo and Jack

I think it's easier to notice in other shots but I like that it's subtle. Nothing draws attention to that space. It's easy to miss it. Or rather, miss its significance.

But when you see it through the shot I picked you can tell it's important.

See: everyone is right next to their love interest.

Hope is next to Save. Arun is next to Tattoo (they aren't a couple as far as we know but the romantic tension is kinda undeniable, we're all aware).

Hoi and Jack are the odd ones out. Amd it's important that they're paired together because they mirror each other.

Hoi's presumed love interest is Nang (even if I don't think they'll explore it much more than that one joke they made). He can't be next to her because she's not there. Alternatively, if you disagree with this, he just doesn't have one.

But that's okay. Hoi's at one of the ends of the half circle. Meaning, whoever isn't there is not missing. That person is just either out of frame (a.k.a not part of this scene) or not necessary for Hoi.

Jack on the other hand, has an empty space next to him. There should be someone there. But there isn't. There's a vacancy, someone's missing. Joke's missing.

And the themes of this group conversation circle a lot around that.

Hoi mentions how he misses Joke. Tattoo says they can't steal the ring back without Joke.

Jack and his pride never say the words but the scene shows it clear as water: Jack misses Joke too.

Of course, that's nothing we didn't already know, but I enjoy good framing and good spacial storytelling. I think we all do.

2) The Space Between Hope and Save

Fear not, HopeSave enthusiasts, I don't think this is about their relationship, they're far too crazy about each other to break up, you can calm down.

I do however think this is about Hope specifically. Why? Because no one fucking likes Hope.

Hope beat them mercilessly and with a smile on his face and, sure, he's right when he says they were all forced to do terrible things by Boss but Jack's the living proof there are choices no matter what. And you can be a better person even when you're forced to be terrible.

So this space? This space is the devide.

Notice, first of all, how the shape of the brick walls seems to create a wall of its own between Save and Hope. It's a clear devide between Hope and the rest of them.

Then, notice how everyone, even Jack and Tattoo who have Joke's empty space between them, seem, from the angle of that shot (which is the introductory one for this scene), to be touching.

They're all connected with each other, they're all a group.

Only Hope isn't touching anyone, only he doesn't belong there, never did. Which is ironic if you think he's always been from around there and Arun hasn't but, because of the choices they made, Arun fits in and Hope doesn't.

And the cherry on top? Hope is also at the end of the circle. And it's not because there's someone out of frame that just isn't there but rather because there isn't.

The only thing by his other side is his own shadow, which, by the way he seems to be the only one to have.

So it's safe to say: Hope doesn't have anyone else. Only Save.

Hope can talk all he wants about how they grew up with him saving Save from fights, but the truth is that, in reality, it's Save who's always saved him. Save is Hope's lifeline.

I guess that was all.

Cheers! <3

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I see a lot of frustration that Jack has let Tattoo, Hoy, and Arun off the hook for their part in the heist. And for how easily he forgave Save and Hope, and I am right there with you all, but here's the thing (imo).

Jack was always going to forgive Joke.

He knew that Joke had a mistake to confess, and told him he would wait to hear it. And capped it off with "I love you".

He lashed out at Save and Hope, too. Even telling Hope that if he didn't want Save dead, he should make sure he never sees his face again.

But you know what else happened in that conversation?

Hope, planting the seed of reason.

Save us a victim of the same system that has the rest of them trapped. The same system that has Jack doing things he hated. The same system that killed Sis Oh.

(while we all know Save went above what was asked of him, did more harm than asked for, and I personally don't think he's anywhere near earning forgiveness, but this fact is still true)

Jack is quick to lash out -- partly a symptom of having to be calm and level headed and play the optimist for so long, and partly due to being so violently aware of the realities around him. Honestly, lashing out is a luxury for Jack, and though it isn't a great way to handle pain, it makes sense.

Later, we get this conversation with Save.

Another reality check. Power is there that needs to be taken, or else someone else will take it. Power abhors a vacuum.

You can see Jack thinking, connecting pieces.

This whole time, his friends have been advocating for Joke. They miss him. They want him back. Jack hasn't been responding to it, but he has been hearing it.

Yes, Jack has treated them all differently than he had Joke, but you can't ignore that Joke lying hits him differently. He needed time. And, he knew Joke would forgive him. Knew he could be the worst version of himself, and still be able to come home after.

(please let's remember how hard Jack pushed Joke's dad about letting Joke come home)

And the next part of the conversation with Save?

A reminder that forgiveness is earned. It's a work in progress.

And then?

What they plan to do next. Save is going to rest (sorry my guy 🙃). And Jack?

At home, you say?

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Jack was always going to come back to Joke. He was always going to go back home for Joke.

It's his turn to apologize (for his anger, for not listening to an explanation -- not that Joke was ready to offer one, because he was too busy blaming himself), and to chase after Joke a little. To fight for them.

Now, because of the world they live in, it's a little more of a literal chase and fight than anticipated. But they built a home together, they made a life and a family, and that means the world to both of them.

Jack is terrified. Joke has been taken, and he hasn't gotten to fix it, and he's so scared. And you know what else is there? Regret.

Determination.

He's going to get his man back.

(in the preview for 12, he says "don't touch my boyfriend", because that's who joke still is; he did not cut joke off forever, it was a reaction to trauma and he was never going to let them stay apart.)

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Tumblr needs to be careful with the tags suggestions. Nearly tagged several Jack & Joker gifsets as "Jack and Cass" because that was the first tag option Tumblr offered.

Like one time I won't double check and will confuse and horrify one pretty much dead fandom.

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Will you be my boyfriend? Yeah.

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prelude to more kisses

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Me indeed. As I thought, I even dreamed about the damn kiss.

how can i be expected to do my job when all i can think about is THAT KISS

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I already have someone I like.

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Would you be my boyfriend? Yes.

Together at last, Jack and Joker. This put a smile on my face. Also, YinWar's chemistry is unmatched because of War's bedroom eyes.

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I already have someone I like.

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Wanna be my boyfriend? Yeah.

Yin Anan as Jack & War Wanarat as Joker Jack & Joker, dir. Tee Bundit

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I already have someone I like.

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I turned her down. I told her I already like someone.