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15 Day BL Challenge - DAY 21

Random song rec for y'all bc I can =P

If You Could Ship (as in pair for a series, not ship them IRL) Any Two Actors in a BL Pairing Who Would It Be?

This was hard as fuck bc I was just clueless, ngl. But, upon deep investigation, I did find some that I think could be interesting. This being said, I did crown one pair king:

NeoDunk

HEAR ME OUT!! I KNOW, I KNOW, JOONGDUNK IS GREAT, I HEAR YOU, OKAY, I KNOW!! SETTLED DOWN!!

But if there's one thing these 2 are good at is playing a little shit. And don't you just think little shit x little shit would slap?? Not even a little bit??? They'd be the worst thing that happened in any of the other character's lives and I'd live for it!

I just think it's a vision and you either have that 20/20 sight or you don't but, factually, I am correct. This would be a huge serve.

Fight me.

HONOURABLE MENTIONS: EarthGun; MarkPrem & VictorNodt

Listen, I love Off but someone needs to kiss Gun right for once. He deserves a man to be able to portray our collective thoughts that that man is gorgeous and we would have 0 second guesses to jump at an opportunity with him. Also I want a scene of him getting railed beyond sanity, not even gonna lie, I think GMM needs to grow a spine.

MarkPrem is not as bold, admittedly, but I like emotionally available people, they're cool. They're both very versatile actors and I think you could make a more character-focused narrative with them, it'd work super well. I also think they could make a great slice of life together, they'd be a very comfy and nice couple. Honestly? Pay me and I'll write the script.

I wasn't gonna go with VictorNodt initially but it is because I LACKED THE VISION! It was @squishyteri who opened my eyes. AND SHE WAS SO RIGHT!! This is great, they are great. Put them together and give me some overly complicated bitches and a dark universe. I will EAT THAT SHIT UP.

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What if there was KinnPorsche but with new cast?

Don't freak out. This is just me and my beloved friend Dante (@tbhimnoteasyonmyself) creating a fan cast of KinnPorsche. We were talking about the tragedy that 2Moons: The Ambassador ended up being and Dante said: "Imagine if they tried to make KPTS s2 but with no one..." and our brains rolled. I wasn't sure if I really wanted to post it, but whatever, here it goes. What were the criteria? We picked from Thai actors. We always looked for someone who would at least partially looked the part, is good enough to own the role and is or passes the correct age. We based it both on the drama but also the novel. ❗️Disclaimer❗️ These are purely our own preferences and opinions and you are fully entitled to your own and disagree with us. It was done for fun and we never meant to disrespect the original cast. They were incredible and we respect and love them. And this all is just a hypothetical scenario and if there was another KPTS content, of course we would always prefer the original cast (apart from a certain person). So let's go!

❗️❗️❗️STARTING HERE, THERE WILL BE SPOILERS FOR KINNPORSCHE THE SERIES. PROCEED ONLY IF YOU HAVE SEEN THE SERIES OR IF YOU DON'T MIND GETTING IMPORTANT PLOT PARTS SPOILED❗️❗️❗️

KINN The main duo was the hardest to find. We threw around many names. Understandably, it's very hard to find anyone who would match Mile. In this case we decided to go more with novel version of Kinn and decided on Joong Archen

You might think he's too young, but as I said we settled on novel version of Kinn (and Porsche) and there Kinn is 20/21, so even younger than Joong is. He has the eyebrows (very important) and mainly he has the vibe and skill to portray the middle son of the mafia family with strong aura a cold vibes. We can clearly see the skill in The Heart Killers. PORSCHE With that we are moving to Kinn's main bodyguard and later boyfriend Porsche. We were wondering if we should switch pairings, but figured out that what works doesn't need to be changed. So for Porsche, we went with

Dunk Natachai

When this option first came out, I was a bit worried that Dunk would struggle with Porsche. But after seeing him in The Heart Killers (combined with his work in The Star in My Mind), I believe he would be able to potray the silly playful Porsche, but at the same time handle the serious moments. Again, he might seem young, but reminder that Porsche is 20 in the novel.

Since this will be longer, if you want to see the rest, open the post bellow.

TANKHUN/KHUN

This one came up right away. First choice was the final one. Without a doubt, we picked

Nut Supanut

This literaly screams Khun. Nut is fully capable for coming and serving cunt, be silly and looking like he has lost his mind. Nut is quite older than Khun is supposed to be in the novel, but honestly, he looks younger and it actually doesn't mind, because Joong still can manage to look older/more mature which is the main point. (In the novel it's specifically said that people mix up Khun and Kinn, thinking that Kinn is the oldest sibling). I don't think anyone else could pull this role like Nut would.

KIM

The youngest brother of the main family. Our pick might feel controversial, but aging both Kim and Chay up felt as the best choice in order to be able to explore their relationship more. Even though it might not be the main choice for everyone, we picked Boun Noppanut

Yes, he is older than both Joong and Nut, but he can pass as younger than Joong (or at least around Joong's age) and in Nut's case it doesn't really matter because just like Kinn, Kim is supposed to appear older and more mature than Khun. He's an actor who can look both mysterious and kind. He definitely can portray both Kim and Wik. We know his range in impressive, because of how well he did in Between Us.

PORCHAY/CHAY

Talking about Chay, we decided to go easy with this one and give this one to

Prem Warut

Again, we are working with aged up version of Chay. And honestly, Prem has severe case of baby face, so him being older doesn't matter at all. I think Team and Chay are similar in many things and I guess that's why I can imagine him in the role. Prem is fully capable of delivering a cute innocent boy, just like the more emotional scenes.

VEGAS

Moving on the minor clan. The older son. Guy with a huge trauma, who deals with his issues in his own sick ways. Our pick ended up being

War Wanarat

Honestly, give this man a role and he will devour it. His range is incredible. If someone can pull the difficult persona that Vegas is, it's War. Again, he's a bit older (Vegas is younger than Khun), but I don't think it matters, since War looks way younger than he actually is. And you would only hardly find another actor fully capable of capturing every aspect of Vegas. PETE

Khun's head bodyguard and the only person who ever understood Vegas. It's more than obvious that we picked

Yin Anan Wong

Just from the way he portrayed Jack in Jack & Joker, it's obvious he can portray kind hearted guy who can look serious if needed. He is definitely capable of being silly for scenes with Khun, but has the range to do incredible job in serious scenes with Vegas. And him and War have the perfect chemistry to deliver this duo perfectly.

MACAU

For Macau we actually have couple of choices. He doesn't have much screen time, so our criteria was an actor who could be a cute little shit (that's how Dante called it).

Mark Siwat

Especially after his role of Arun in Jack & Joker, I know he would devour the role of spoiled rich kid.

Phuwin Tangsakyuen

Phuwin was Dante's first choice. I can't honestly comment that much since I haven't seen any of his dramas. The closest I got to his work was when I played Lifeweaver in Overwatch (a character he voiced). But he definitely looks the part. We also threw around names like Pond or Title. But as said earlier, it can be anyone who can be cute little shit. KORN

Khun, Kinn and Kim's dad, head of the main family. He's strict with Kinn and Kim, while he spoils Khun. We decided for

Plai Paramej

The sir who amazingly portrayed Joke's father in Jack & Joker. He can be strict and cold, but also portray kindness and warmness.

KANT/GUN (they changed his name for drama)

Korn's younger brother, head of the minor clan and father of Vegas and Macau. We picked

Beam Sarunyoo

He served as Boss and Kant/Gun is not far from that character. He can deliver the strict father, hating the main family and guy without mercy.

BIG

This was my first pick and Dante enthusiastically agreed. We decided that the role of Big can only go to

Victor Chatchawit/Victor Zheng

He was so good in Jack & Joker and I honestly fell for him. He can fight, he can be the tough guy, and I bet he could pull the protective instincts Big has towards Kinn (and maybe some other feelings too).

KEN

After some thoughts of who could be the little shit, guy hiding stuff and cocky asshole, we decided for

Neo Trai

(sorry not sorry for that pic)

Neo would devour this role. I would pay anything just to see him act out the "nice one, loser" scene. From his role of Boston in Only Friends, I think it's clear, he can give us perfect Ken.

TIME AND TAY

The two friends of Kinn. They are dating, but their relationship is full of struggles, yet somehow it works. (at least that's how it is in the novel). We went with

Fort Thitipong (Time) and Peat Wasuthorn (Tay)

Honestly, they are there just to hang out with Kinn and sass him when he acts out. These two are perfect for it.

TEM AND JOM

The two friends of Porsche. They hang out with him, drink with him and always have his back.

We went with

Noeul Nuttarat (Tem) and Mark Pakin (Jom)

Honestly, nothing to explain. Amazing actors, who can support Porsche as amazing friends, but also joke around with him and help him anytime he needs them.

POL AND ARM

The two Khun's bodyguards who are often victims of his shenanigans.

We decided to give these roles to

Michael Kiettisak (Arm) and Pon Thanapon (Pol)

Again, no further explanation needed. These two are amazing and definitely wouldn't mind being part of silly scenes.

YOK

Owner of the bar Porsche works in. She always helps Porsche and is like his older sister. She's kind and understanding. But also funny lady.

There is only one person perfect for this role

Jennie Panhan

She's incredible, she serves and she would own this role. Period.

TAWAN

Kinn's ex, he wants to get his revenge on Kinn so he goes over to Vegas and gets close to him. However his plan backfires.

We did this for jokes and giggles. So

Nine Kornchid

Honestly this choice happened just because Dante asked: "Who would be Joong's ex?" and I replied with "We could do the funniest shit and cast Nine ... lowkey literally Joong's ex". And so here is Nine.

That's it for now. There is definitely many more characters, but this is all we created.

Again, this is our personal opinion and it was only done for fun.

Feel free to share you choices and opinions.

Once again, thanks to Dante for cooperation and idea to do this. Maybe one day we will recast another drama.

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I'm afraid I won't get to kiss you again.

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Jack saying these hurtful words to Joke, telling him to basically disappear from his life. Joke took the words to heart. Nevermind that these were said at the heat of the moment. Because, Joke had always believed that he is never good for Jack or for anyone—that he’s just a stain on everyone’s life bringing bad luck.

When Jack finally calmed—well as calm as he can be—Hope’s words gotten through to him just a tad. He cried for Joke, cried for the way they left things, cried for missing him, and maybe, cried for the hurtful things he said to Joke.

As we see the next day with the little gang, Jack’s reaction to Joke’s name when Hoy mentions him, is the kind who isn’t as mad as the first time. More like a mix of feelings. Annoyed that Joke is known to be the king of heist, annoyed he’s not there, annoyed that it’s most likely his fault. But maybe, part of him is relieved bc Joke won’t be in trouble anymore if he stayed away. Regardless, Jack truly underestimated Boss. Because as we can see, Boss knew to take Jack’s ultimate weakness. Because it’s not just grandma anymore, it’s Joke that has Jack’s whole heart.

We got a moment with Joke and grandma, he was so happy to see her only to remind them both that he’s not there to come back and stay. And catch his words, he asked for Ama to only tell Jack the words he wanted to say, only if Jack himself ever asks for him. He didn’t even try begging Ama to tell Jack and ask to reconcile, which he knew Ama would absolutely do. But rather, he’s giving the space Jack needs. Totally different when he first came out of prison asking for forgiveness. He’s giving Jack the space to breathe, to swallow what’s happening, all the while thanking him for everything—the things he wanted to tell Jack that from the beginning, Jack had Joke’s heart already. That he took Joke’s smile and made it for the world to see. That he was the reason Joke was ever truly happy. Joke’s only sorry that for being happy, he had to take away Jack’s smile many times.

Ama’s words “Fate is funny isn’t it? You gave Jack’s freedom in exchange of never seeing him again.” And she’s right.

Though, in Jack & Joke’s minds, this is the freedom that Jack wanted. But it’s not. Joke disappearing would not be Jack’s freedom. However, Joke doesn’t know that. Joke only ever believed he took it away. And in some parts, yes, but he was also the one to give it.

Joke didn’t know Jack would go to the ends of the earth to find him. That Jack didn’t even hesitate to believe Ama when she says he needs to save Joke.

Because if he truly felt that Joke was not worth his love, he wouldn’t be as upset and full of rage to go in a trap just to save him.

That Joke may believe disappearing for good would give everyone, Jack, a better life. But Jack would only dig the graves deeper for each body responsible to ever hurt Joke.

Jack may not have realized just how much his words affected Joke. He may have wanted to wait till they cool off, then come find Joke to talk but the world doesn’t ever give them the break. He may have said the words, but his heart still sees Joke as his boyfriend. Much said when he gives Carbon the kick he deserves for punching Joke right in front of Jack.

And at this, we may see Joke realizing that maybe they were both too haste in their actions trying to make each other feel better, apologizing & forgiving all the same. It was just one day, but it clearly felt like a lifetime to Joke, if he thought he should just say goodbye for good. But Jack proves him wrong as he came trying to save him. And even before that when he says he has to fix things at home. He has to fix what he broke with Joke.

It’s such a rollercoaster of emotions. One day Joke thought he had his future panned out, the next he has to leave his newfound family and disappear, and in another snap, his Jack is claiming him once again.

But isn’t that the beauty of this romance?

Reality isn’t as smooth sailing.

Joke & Jack’s love has been built with loops from fate trying to unravel for them to settle. They’ve yet to uncover what really makes them fated, and they have to work on that.

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Jack telling Save he has to go home because he has to fix things.

I do believe Jack was gonna go home and reconcile with Joke. Either he knew that Joke was going to visit Ama, or he would ask Ama for advise how to fix things with Joke. With the way he hurt Joke, he knew he was gonna have to reach out first & knows he has to reach out first. Jack was regretful.

But not as regretful as when he heard that Joke was taken.

He didn’t have the chance to make things right. And Joke, who probably might die, might die believing that Jack never wanted to see him again. That what Jack said was the truth. That he may die believing Jack didn’t love him.

Jack was out to put that to rest, and save him, all the while letting Joke know he’s indeed love. And to bring him back home.

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Why is there so much hate in the jack and joker tag fellas yk you can just turn it off if you don't like the show that much

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Oh~~ The Spaces Between Us~~

I had many thoughts watching ep.11 and absorbing how great it fucking was but one scene caught my attention.

This one right here:

I've noticed @almayver talking about the one between Tattoo and Jack but not the other one, the one between Save and Hope. I wanna address both.

1) The Space Between Tattoo and Jack

I think it's easier to notice in other shots but I like that it's subtle. Nothing draws attention to that space. It's easy to miss it. Or rather, miss its significance.

But when you see it through the shot I picked you can tell it's important.

See: everyone is right next to their love interest.

Hope is next to Save. Arun is next to Tattoo (they aren't a couple as far as we know but the romantic tension is kinda undeniable, we're all aware).

Hoi and Jack are the odd ones out. Amd it's important that they're paired together because they mirror each other.

Hoi's presumed love interest is Nang (even if I don't think they'll explore it much more than that one joke they made). He can't be next to her because she's not there. Alternatively, if you disagree with this, he just doesn't have one.

But that's okay. Hoi's at one of the ends of the half circle. Meaning, whoever isn't there is not missing. That person is just either out of frame (a.k.a not part of this scene) or not necessary for Hoi.

Jack on the other hand, has an empty space next to him. There should be someone there. But there isn't. There's a vacancy, someone's missing. Joke's missing.

And the themes of this group conversation circle a lot around that.

Hoi mentions how he misses Joke. Tattoo says they can't steal the ring back without Joke.

Jack and his pride never say the words but the scene shows it clear as water: Jack misses Joke too.

Of course, that's nothing we didn't already know, but I enjoy good framing and good spacial storytelling. I think we all do.

2) The Space Between Hope and Save

Fear not, HopeSave enthusiasts, I don't think this is about their relationship, they're far too crazy about each other to break up, you can calm down.

I do however think this is about Hope specifically. Why? Because no one fucking likes Hope.

Hope beat them mercilessly and with a smile on his face and, sure, he's right when he says they were all forced to do terrible things by Boss but Jack's the living proof there are choices no matter what. And you can be a better person even when you're forced to be terrible.

So this space? This space is the devide.

Notice, first of all, how the shape of the brick walls seems to create a wall of its own between Save and Hope. It's a clear devide between Hope and the rest of them.

Then, notice how everyone, even Jack and Tattoo who have Joke's empty space between them, seem, from the angle of that shot (which is the introductory one for this scene), to be touching.

They're all connected with each other, they're all a group.

Only Hope isn't touching anyone, only he doesn't belong there, never did. Which is ironic if you think he's always been from around there and Arun hasn't but, because of the choices they made, Arun fits in and Hope doesn't.

And the cherry on top? Hope is also at the end of the circle. And it's not because there's someone out of frame that just isn't there but rather because there isn't.

The only thing by his other side is his own shadow, which, by the way he seems to be the only one to have.

So it's safe to say: Hope doesn't have anyone else. Only Save.

Hope can talk all he wants about how they grew up with him saving Save from fights, but the truth is that, in reality, it's Save who's always saved him. Save is Hope's lifeline.

I guess that was all.

Cheers! <3

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I see a lot of frustration that Jack has let Tattoo, Hoy, and Arun off the hook for their part in the heist. And for how easily he forgave Save and Hope, and I am right there with you all, but here's the thing (imo).

Jack was always going to forgive Joke.

He knew that Joke had a mistake to confess, and told him he would wait to hear it. And capped it off with "I love you".

He lashed out at Save and Hope, too. Even telling Hope that if he didn't want Save dead, he should make sure he never sees his face again.

But you know what else happened in that conversation?

Hope, planting the seed of reason.

Save us a victim of the same system that has the rest of them trapped. The same system that has Jack doing things he hated. The same system that killed Sis Oh.

(while we all know Save went above what was asked of him, did more harm than asked for, and I personally don't think he's anywhere near earning forgiveness, but this fact is still true)

Jack is quick to lash out -- partly a symptom of having to be calm and level headed and play the optimist for so long, and partly due to being so violently aware of the realities around him. Honestly, lashing out is a luxury for Jack, and though it isn't a great way to handle pain, it makes sense.

Later, we get this conversation with Save.

Another reality check. Power is there that needs to be taken, or else someone else will take it. Power abhors a vacuum.

You can see Jack thinking, connecting pieces.

This whole time, his friends have been advocating for Joke. They miss him. They want him back. Jack hasn't been responding to it, but he has been hearing it.

Yes, Jack has treated them all differently than he had Joke, but you can't ignore that Joke lying hits him differently. He needed time. And, he knew Joke would forgive him. Knew he could be the worst version of himself, and still be able to come home after.

(please let's remember how hard Jack pushed Joke's dad about letting Joke come home)

And the next part of the conversation with Save?

A reminder that forgiveness is earned. It's a work in progress.

And then?

What they plan to do next. Save is going to rest (sorry my guy 🙃). And Jack?

At home, you say?

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Jack was always going to come back to Joke. He was always going to go back home for Joke.

It's his turn to apologize (for his anger, for not listening to an explanation -- not that Joke was ready to offer one, because he was too busy blaming himself), and to chase after Joke a little. To fight for them.

Now, because of the world they live in, it's a little more of a literal chase and fight than anticipated. But they built a home together, they made a life and a family, and that means the world to both of them.

Jack is terrified. Joke has been taken, and he hasn't gotten to fix it, and he's so scared. And you know what else is there? Regret.

Determination.

He's going to get his man back.

(in the preview for 12, he says "don't touch my boyfriend", because that's who joke still is; he did not cut joke off forever, it was a reaction to trauma and he was never going to let them stay apart.)

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Tumblr needs to be careful with the tags suggestions. Nearly tagged several Jack & Joker gifsets as "Jack and Cass" because that was the first tag option Tumblr offered.

Like one time I won't double check and will confuse and horrify one pretty much dead fandom.

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Will you be my boyfriend? Yeah.

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prelude to more kisses

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Me indeed. As I thought, I even dreamed about the damn kiss.

how can i be expected to do my job when all i can think about is THAT KISS

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I already have someone I like.

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Would you be my boyfriend? Yes.

Together at last, Jack and Joker. This put a smile on my face. Also, YinWar's chemistry is unmatched because of War's bedroom eyes.

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I already have someone I like.